Out of Curiosity: Who the Hell are all you people, anyway?
Mattia Valente
introduced myself properly (that I can recall, at least ;-) Also don't
know much about you guys (other than the little I can glean from some of
your web sites or your e-mail addresses, which indicate to a degree
whether or not you are students, but precious little else ;-)
Name: Mattia Valente
Age: 20
Sex: Male
Nationality: Dutch/Italian
Languages Spoken: English, Dutch, Italian, French, German
Occupation: First year Med student at the VU in Amsterdam, did health
sciences for a year before that
Other: TV addict (trying to kick it a little..), Buffy fan (and everyone
goes "DUH!!!"), interest in Music (a bit of everything), Build and play
guitars (electric mostly) as a hobby, read SciFi & some Fantasy for fun
(Peter F Hamilton, Herbert, Robert Jordan.) Getting kinda hooked on
reading Newgroups (have lots of time to kill at the Uni sometimes..)
Now its your turn! let the group (and me) know a little about
yourselves. I'm basically curious as to the group's demographics.
Mattia
Fuzzy
Mattia Valente wrote in message <38E6649F...@std.vu.nl>...
>Well, I've been haning around here for quite a while now, and I never
>introduced myself properly (that I can recall, at least ;-)
Hm, now that you mention it, me neither
>Also don't
>know much about you guys (other than the little I can glean from some of
>your web sites or your e-mail addresses, which indicate to a degree
>whether or not you are students, but precious little else ;-)
>
Name: Sierk Ybema
Age: 26, oeps 27 for a week now
Sex: Male
Nationality: Dutch
Occupation: I studied astronomy for a few years. I now work for the
IB-Groep (we hand out the scholarships in Holland).
Music: Fairly broad, mostly alternative rock
Books: SciFi & Fantasy (Iain M. Banks, Sheri S. Tepper, Peter F. Hamilton,
Neil Stephenson, L.E. Modesitt, Terry Goodkind, Tad Williams, etc.)
Movies: a lot of 'm
Games: Mostly strategic. Currently hooked on Stars! I've also played
Quake2 and Baldurs Gate for a while. I also play Kolonisten Von Catan
and "klaverjassen" (what do you call that in English?), when I can drag
myself away from the computer.
Peter Kleiweg
> Name: Sierk Ybema
(Then who is Fuzzy writing this?)
That name rings a bell. An image of an eight-tentacled
cephalopod springs to mind.
> Occupation: I studied astronomy for a few years. I now work
> for the IB-Groep (we hand out the scholarships in
> Holland).
You mean you collect those astronomical cheques from poor former
students like me. No free scholarships in my days. There was an
age limit for a few years, about the years I studied at
university.
> Books: SciFi & Fantasy (Iain M. Banks, Sheri S. Tepper, Peter
> F. Hamilton, Neil Stephenson, L.E. Modesitt, Terry
> Goodkind, Tad Williams, etc.)
You know about nl.kunst.sf+fantasy?
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Angel-mobile, away!"
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Fuzzy
Peter Kleiweg wrote in message ...
>Fuzzy skriver...
Hé Peter
>
>> Name: Sierk Ybema
>
>(Then who is Fuzzy writing this?)
>
>That name rings a bell. An image of an eight-tentacled
>cephalopod springs to mind.
Yup, that's the one. Still living in Groningen?
>
>> Occupation: I studied astronomy for a few years. I now work
>> for the IB-Groep (we hand out the scholarships in
>> Holland).
>
>You mean you collect those astronomical cheques from poor former
>students like me. No free scholarships in my days. There was an
>age limit for a few years, about the years I studied at
>university.
Tell me about it. I had to give them back the wages they were giving me for
a while because I still owed them money.
>
>> Books: SciFi & Fantasy (Iain M. Banks, Sheri S. Tepper, Peter
>> F. Hamilton, Neil Stephenson, L.E. Modesitt, Terry
>> Goodkind, Tad Williams, etc.)
>
>You know about nl.kunst.sf+fantasy?
Nope. Haven't been there. I'll take a look
Mattia Valente
>
> Mattia Valente wrote in message <38E6649F...@std.vu.nl>...
> >Well, I've been haning around here for quite a while now, and I never
> >introduced myself properly (that I can recall, at least ;-)
>
> Hm, now that you mention it, me neither
>
> >Also don't
> >know much about you guys (other than the little I can glean from some of
> >your web sites or your e-mail addresses, which indicate to a degree
> >whether or not you are students, but precious little else ;-)
> >
>
> Name: Sierk Ybema
> Age: 26, oeps 27 for a week now
> Sex: Male
> Nationality: Dutch
> IB-Groep (we hand out the scholarships in Holland).
Ahh..one of them nice people who gives me 444,34 per month (or some
other odd number like that..:-)
> Music: Fairly broad, mostly alternative rock
> Books: SciFi & Fantasy (Iain M. Banks, Sheri S. Tepper, Peter F. Hamilton,
> Neil Stephenson, L.E. Modesitt, Terry Goodkind, Tad Williams, etc.)
> Movies: a lot of 'm
Forgot to mention that. Way too many movies, need more money to keep
doing that ;-)
Mattia
Peter Kleiweg
> Yup, that's the one. Still living in Groningen?
Got a part time job as programmer/researcher/whatever at the
university. I'm not going anywhere.
> >> Occupation: I studied astronomy for a few years. I now work
> >> for the IB-Groep (we hand out the scholarships in
> >> Holland).
> >
> >You mean you collect those astronomical cheques from poor former
> >students like me. No free scholarships in my days. There was an
> >age limit for a few years, about the years I studied at
> >university.
>
> Tell me about it. I had to give them back the wages they were giving me for
> a while because I still owed them money.
A while? I'll pro'ly be paying till I'm fifty.
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Jonathan Black
> You know about nl.kunst.sf+fantasy?
Well I for one do :-) So in response to Mattia's orignial post I'll
suffice by pointing to our wonderful n.k.s+f website:
You'll find answers to "who the hell are you?" there for me and others.
--
J o N a T H a N
george van hal
> yourselves. I'm basically curious as to the group's demographics.
Ok, so here goes.....
Name: George van Hal
Age: 19
Sex: Male
Nationality: Dutch
Languages Spoken: Sadly only English and Dutch....never was much of a
language type guy....
Occupation: First year astronomy/astrophysics (never sure on the correct
translation of "sterrenkunde" in english) in Leiden. Did a (way too
uninteresting) year of Chemistry before that. I guess that's when I started
spending waaay too much time on the net. Set up this newsgroup with a
"netfriend" back than. Glad it has become fairly busy...with lots of dutch
people!! ;-)
Other: Huge TV and Movie Fan. As far as TV goes I mostly watch SF shows, but
not exclusively (I also watch things like Dawson's Creek for instance). I'll
watch any movie that seems to be fun (which comes down to me watching a
whole damn lot of movies ;-)). Started reading Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time
last week (almost finished part one now) and that's also eating away a lot
of time. Of course I'm insanly obsessed by Buffy, to the point of it being
almost unhealthy. As for music, I like almost everything from classical,
through techno and trance to rock music. Listening to alternative/rock the
most this past year though....
Other Hobbies include going out waay to much (which, together with the TV
movies the internet and the wheel of time leaves almost no time for the
uni....). Anyways that's about it I guess. So anyone else??
Mattia Valente
>
> > Now its your turn! let the group (and me) know a little about
> > yourselves. I'm basically curious as to the group's demographics.
>
> Ok, so here goes.....
>
> Name: George van Hal
> Age: 19
> Sex: Male
> Nationality: Dutch
> Languages Spoken: Sadly only English and Dutch....never was much of a
> language type guy....
> Occupation: First year astronomy/astrophysics (never sure on the correct
> translation of "sterrenkunde" in english) in Leiden. Did a (way too
> uninteresting) year of Chemistry before that. I guess that's when I started
> spending waaay too much time on the net. Set up this newsgroup with a
> "netfriend" back than. Glad it has become fairly busy...with lots of dutch
> people!! ;-)
> Other: Huge TV and Movie Fan. As far as TV goes I mostly watch SF shows, but
> not exclusively (I also watch things like Dawson's Creek for instance). I'll
> watch any movie that seems to be fun (which comes down to me watching a
> whole damn lot of movies ;-)). Started reading Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time
> last week (almost finished part one now) and that's also eating away a lot
I can imagine. I started the series some 4 years ago, mom saw me reading
it, had a comment like "what is that shit?", let her borrow the book,
she got hooked (last fantasy stuff she read was Tolkien, intorduced me
to it..) Sister read em all too..all 8 of em (book 9 out end of this
year, supposedly..Don't beleive that for a minute..and then only 3-4
more to go, supposedly. :-) Addictive stuff. If you like
SF/(slight)horror, I recommend the Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F.
Hamilton, great stuff, eat up more of your time (3 1,000+ page books..)
> of time. Of course I'm insanly obsessed by Buffy, to the point of it being
> almost unhealthy. As for music, I like almost everything from classical,
Sounds all to familiar. Note to self: go buy more Video casstes, running
out.
Mattia
Fuzzy
Mattia Valente wrote in message <38E759FE...@std.vu.nl>...
>george van hal wrote:
>>
>> > Now its your turn! let the group (and me) know a little about
>> > yourselves. I'm basically curious as to the group's demographics.
>>
>> Ok, so here goes.....
>>
>> Name: George van Hal
>> Age: 19
>> Sex: Male
>> Nationality: Dutch
>> Languages Spoken: Sadly only English and Dutch....never was much of a
>> language type guy....
>> Occupation: First year astronomy/astrophysics (never sure on the correct
>> translation of "sterrenkunde" in english) in Leiden.
Good! Another astronomer. Is it just my impression or has the studie become
more popular the last few years?
>> Did a (way too
>> uninteresting) year of Chemistry before that. I guess that's when I
started
>> spending waaay too much time on the net. Set up this newsgroup with a
>> "netfriend" back than. Glad it has become fairly busy...with lots of
dutch
>> people!! ;-)
>> Other: Huge TV and Movie Fan. As far as TV goes I mostly watch SF shows,
but
>> not exclusively (I also watch things like Dawson's Creek for instance).
I'll
>> watch any movie that seems to be fun (which comes down to me watching a
>> whole damn lot of movies ;-)). Started reading Robert Jordan's Wheel of
Time
>> last week (almost finished part one now) and that's also eating away a
lot
>
>I can imagine. I started the series some 4 years ago, mom saw me reading
>it, had a comment like "what is that shit?", let her borrow the book,
>she got hooked (last fantasy stuff she read was Tolkien, intorduced me
>to it..) Sister read em all too..all 8 of em (book 9 out end of this
>year, supposedly..Don't beleive that for a minute..and then only 3-4
>more to go, supposedly. :-) Addictive stuff.
I must admid I've just about given up on Jordan. IMHO, the series has slowed
to a grinding halt. The first few books were very good, though.
>If you like
>SF/(slight)horror, I recommend the Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F.
>Hamilton, great stuff, eat up more of your time (3 1,000+ page books..)
Hear, hear! Best space opera I ever read.
Say, aren't there any non-Dutch persons on this ng?
Peter Kleiweg
> Say, aren't there any non-Dutch persons on this ng?
Yeah, but they all post in French.
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Arkasha
> Well, I've been haning around here for quite a while now, and I never
> introduced myself properly (that I can recall, at least ;-) Also don't
> know much about you guys (other than the little I can glean from some of
> your web sites or your e-mail addresses, which indicate to a degree
> whether or not you are students, but precious little else ;-)
Well i haven't posted here for a while, cos of extreme busyness, but i try
to lurk as much as i can. So here goes:
Name: Mascha (a.k.a. Arkasha)
Age: 23
Sex: female
Nationally: Dutch (no surprises there)
Occupation: fifth year med student in Leiden, currently doing my internships
(dutch: co-schappen), hence the total lack of free time. And to be honest,
if had known 5 years ago it was gonna be like this, i wouldn't have gone
into medicine to begin with. But lets move on..
( So Mattia...are you sure you wanna do meds ? are you really, really sure ?
)
Music: to much to list here. Special mentionings to R.E.M: best band overall
in the world; The Chemical Brothers: best live act; Oasis: what can i say...
i like them; dEUS: magical.
Books: not much time to read alas. Fav books include: The secret history (
Donna Tart), Anne Rice ( just the vampire chronicles, not the rest), Ch.
Marlowe (esp. Faust & Edward II).
Not much fantasy stuff. Sometimes i feel i'm to only one left who hasn't
read Tolkien !
Movies: favs include Labyrinth, La vita e bella, Gorgi Park.
TV: beside the obvious two, X-files, B5, Nikita (sometimes), JAG
Arkasha
Caroline
Name: Caroline
Age: 21
Sex: Female
Nationality: German
Languages Spoken: English, German, French
Occupation: Third Year Business Administration at the WWU Münster, but on
exchange in Glasgow right now
TV: Buffy, Angel, DC, ER, ...too many to mention!
Well, this is actually my first posting in this NG, but I've been reading
for a while! I think I am definitely not the only one who's only been
reading this NG without posting.
Caz
george van hal
Fuzzy wrote:
> >> Occupation: First year astronomy/astrophysics (never sure on the correct
> >> translation of "sterrenkunde" in english) in Leiden.
>
> Good! Another astronomer. Is it just my impression or has the studie become
> more popular the last few years?
Depends on what you'd call more popular. We had 28 1st year students this year
(if I'm not mistaken) and we're now down to about 13 or 14 I guess. Still not
what you'd call a popular study (comparing it with things like law for
instance). Not sure how things are in other cities. I *do* know this was the
first time in Leiden astronomy had a larger group than physics. Nothing big
though..
> >>I can imagine. I started the series some 4 years ago, mom saw me reading
> >it, had a comment like "what is that shit?", let her borrow the book,
> >she got hooked (last fantasy stuff she read was Tolkien, intorduced me
> >to it..) Sister read em all too..all 8 of em (book 9 out end of this
> >year, supposedly..Don't beleive that for a minute..and then only 3-4
> >more to go, supposedly. :-) Addictive stuff.
>
> I must admid I've just about given up on Jordan. IMHO, the series has slowed
> to a grinding halt. The first few books were very good, though.
I can't really comment on that. Most of the people I know have read the books
and liked em all though. I guess I'll find out when I get there :-)
> >If you like
> >SF/(slight)horror, I recommend the Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F.
> >Hamilton, great stuff, eat up more of your time (3 1,000+ page books..)
*coughs* Hmm first I'll have to get through 8 wheel of time novels. But I'll be
sure to look at those when I finish them ;-)
> Say, aren't there any non-Dutch persons on this ng?
Yes, this gets you wondering doesn't it ;-)
See Ya,
George
Paul McIntyre
this is me if you're interested
Name: Paul McIntyre
Age: 18
Sex: Male
Nationally: English
Occupation: Student at Salford uni, doing Media Production. . I also work
for Granada TV as a digitizer, which is transfering tapes to digital for the
editors to work their magic on. . .
Music: Mostly the same as Arkasha, but im leaning towards the female soloist
of late. . like Natalie Merchant and Fiona Apple.
Books: Hooked on American literature at the moment. . .half way through Moby
Dick, and 'On the road' by Jack Kerouac. . and I've not read tolkein either
Movies: Its a Wonderful life, Contact and teen movies(American Pie. . .that
sort of stuff)
TV: The two good ones:-) and the X-Files, Doctor Who, All the Star Treks, DC
and Hollyoaks(British soap). Just watched the first episode of Charmed. .
looks good though.
I've also got a Buffy Website up www.watcherscouncil.co.uk
Paul.
Mattia Valente
>
> Mattia Valente wrote:
>
> > Well, I've been haning around here for quite a while now, and I never
> > introduced myself properly (that I can recall, at least ;-) Also don't
> > know much about you guys (other than the little I can glean from some of
> > your web sites or your e-mail addresses, which indicate to a degree
> > whether or not you are students, but precious little else ;-)
>
> Well i haven't posted here for a while, cos of extreme busyness, but i try
> to lurk as much as i can. So here goes:
>
> Name: Mascha (a.k.a. Arkasha)
> Age: 23
> Sex: female
> Nationally: Dutch (no surprises there)
> Occupation: fifth year med student in Leiden, currently doing my internships
> (dutch: co-schappen), hence the total lack of free time. And to be honest,
> if had known 5 years ago it was gonna be like this, i wouldn't have gone
> into medicine to begin with. But lets move on..
> ( So Mattia...are you sure you wanna do meds ? are you really, really sure ?
> )
Pretty much, yes. So far, its easy. Have too much time (although I guess
I should be thankful for it now..) Its a lot of fun, methinks (heck,
even playing with scalpels and dead people is fun, you know, fun with
learning....does that me morbid ;-) Looking fine so far, got lotsa docs
in the family, they all liked it..
> Music: to much to list here. Special mentionings to R.E.M: best band overall
> in the world; The Chemical Brothers: best live act; Oasis: what can i say...
> i like them; dEUS: magical.
> Books: not much time to read alas. Fav books include: The secret history (
> Donna Tart), Anne Rice ( just the vampire chronicles, not the rest), Ch.
> Marlowe (esp. Faust & Edward II).
> Not much fantasy stuff. Sometimes i feel i'm to only one left who hasn't
> read Tolkien !
WHAT!?!?!?! no Lord of the Rings? :-) Its a must read, IMHO....the other
stuff is good if you like it, but LotR should be on everyones to read
list..
Mattia
Mattia Valente
> I must admid I've just about given up on Jordan. IMHO, the series has slowed
> to a grinding halt. The first few books were very good, though.
I'm holding off judgement, but I'm not really waiting on the edge of my
seat for the next book right now. The last book seemed like a giant
transition story, hardly anything happened. A lot of important events
have been hinted at (and where the hell is Mat anyway????) so it was
ultimately annoying...The ending was one huge cliffhanger, with a 2 year
interlude to look forward to. At the end of book 8, pretty much
everything is in Limbo again, all loose ends, which means there's a lot
to go on, but its particularly satisfying. He'd better come up with a
good one next...
> >If you like
> >SF/(slight)horror, I recommend the Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F.
> >Hamilton, great stuff, eat up more of your time (3 1,000+ page books..)
>
> Hear, hear! Best space opera I ever read.
I'm wondering what he'll write next. I'm reading the Mindstar books
(read Quantum Murder yesterday....they're too damn short, only take a
coupla hours ;-) Quite good, but not as amazing as the Night's Dawn
stuff...I think I'll re-read the whole thing over the summer.
BTW, Peter F. Hamilton will be in Holland in a week and a half or so
(starting the 12th of April) doing book signings in Amsterdam (American
Book Center) and I think Rotterdam and Utrecht. If someone cares, I'll
post the dates, even if its OT...
> Say, aren't there any non-Dutch persons on this ng?
A few I guess, but not many. One german to date...but then they have
their own group, as do the brits and the frenchies...who does that
leave? Italians don't speak english, trust me, I know, and I doubt the
spaniards or the portugese do very well. Austria/Switzerland probably
gravitate towards the de groups...
Mattia
Fuzzy
Mattia Valente wrote in message <38E79429...@std.vu.nl>...
>Fuzzy wrote:
>> I must admid I've just about given up on Jordan. IMHO, the series has
slowed
>> to a grinding halt. The first few books were very good, though.
>
>I'm holding off judgement, but I'm not really waiting on the edge of my
>seat for the next book right now. The last book seemed like a giant
>transition story, hardly anything happened. A lot of important events
>have been hinted at (and where the hell is Mat anyway????) so it was
>ultimately annoying...The ending was one huge cliffhanger, with a 2 year
>interlude to look forward to. At the end of book 8, pretty much
>everything is in Limbo again, all loose ends, which means there's a lot
>to go on, but its particularly satisfying. He'd better come up with a
>good one next...
I'll read it when a friend of mine has bought and read it. I stopped buying
the new ones.
>
>> >If you like
>> >SF/(slight)horror, I recommend the Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F.
>> >Hamilton, great stuff, eat up more of your time (3 1,000+ page books..)
>>
>> Hear, hear! Best space opera I ever read.
>
>I'm wondering what he'll write next. I'm reading the Mindstar books
>(read Quantum Murder yesterday....they're too damn short, only take a
>coupla hours ;-) Quite good, but not as amazing as the Night's Dawn
>stuff...I think I'll re-read the whole thing over the summer.
>
>BTW, Peter F. Hamilton will be in Holland in a week and a half or so
>(starting the 12th of April) doing book signings in Amsterdam (American
>Book Center) and I think Rotterdam and Utrecht. If someone cares, I'll
>post the dates, even if its OT...
Please do! It's been a while since I've been to Amsterdam to buy some good
books. Well, ok, three months at most and I still have 20 must-reads beside
my bed, but this is a good excuse to go again and buy some good SF. Here in
Groningen we have nothing like the American Book Centre or Book Exchance (at
the Kloveniersburgwal).
Fuzzy
george van hal wrote in message <38E78DEE...@wxs.nl>...
>
>
>Fuzzy wrote:
>
>> >> Occupation: First year astronomy/astrophysics (never sure on the
correct
>> >> translation of "sterrenkunde" in english) in Leiden.
>>
>> Good! Another astronomer. Is it just my impression or has the studie
become
>> more popular the last few years?
>
>Depends on what you'd call more popular. We had 28 1st year students this
year
>(if I'm not mistaken) and we're now down to about 13 or 14 I guess. Still
not
>what you'd call a popular study (comparing it with things like law for
>instance). Not sure how things are in other cities. I *do* know this was
the
>first time in Leiden astronomy had a larger group than physics. Nothing big
>though..
When I started in Groningen we started with 12 and more than half (me
included) dropped out. It was the biggest draft in years. Physics is much
larger here: about 70 each year or so.
Sierk
<Snip>
Andrea
Name: Andrea
Age: Um. Oldish. Okay. 38.
Sex: female
Nationality: Dutch
Occupation: fulltime wife & mother, parttime job
Books: SF & F (and bits of Horror)
Tv-series: Blake's 7, Buffy, Voyager, X-files, Angel, Due South, DS9,
Farscape, Highlander
ng's: This one and nl.kunst.sf+fantasy
mailings lists: lots
Andrea :))
keith
Name: Keith King
Age 19 (20 in may, yippee)
Sex: Male
Nationality: English, with a bit of Irish for good luck
Languages: English, Falkland Island version of english, and a tiny bit of
mandarin chinese and also tiny bit of Japanese
Occupation: I work on a farm, TV extra (got regestered last monday, no work
yet)
Music: anything from Bob marley to slayer with a bit of classical thrown in
for good measure. strictly no opera though.
Books: Fact based books on topics ranging from martial art's to witchcraft.
Though Lord of the flies is an amasing book (bollocks to the rule's)
Movies: ah ha an easy question JACKIE CHAN. I have around (goes to count
collection) 23 of his films. Martial art films in general, Comedies,
American pie was good.
TV. Buffy, Angel, Martial Law, Charmed, Startrek, etc...
Games: Martial art beat 'em up type games.
Hobbies: suprise, suprise Martial arts (most recent being Ninjutsu which is
realy good)
Seife1r Almas1y
> Name: George van Hal
> Age: 19
> Sex: Male
> Nationality: Dutch
> Languages Spoken: Sadly only English and Dutch....never was much of a
> language type guy....
> uninteresting) year of Chemistry before that. I guess that's when I
started
> spending waaay too much time on the net. Set up this newsgroup with a
> "netfriend" back than. Glad it has become fairly busy...with lots of dutch
> people!! ;-)
> Other: Huge TV and Movie Fan. As far as TV goes I mostly watch SF shows,
but
> not exclusively (I also watch things like Dawson's Creek for instance).
I'll
> watch any movie that seems to be fun (which comes down to me watching a
> whole damn lot of movies ;-)). Started reading Robert Jordan's Wheel of
Time
> last week (almost finished part one now) and that's also eating away a lot
> almost unhealthy. As for music, I like almost everything from classical,
> most this past year though....
> Other Hobbies include going out waay to much (which, together with the TV
> movies the internet and the wheel of time leaves almost no time for the
> uni....). Anyways that's about it I guess. So anyone else??
>
>
Gaap
Butz
Caroline <carolin...@strath.ac.uk> wrote in message
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I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a bunch
of rascists.
zeppo
> You're right. I 've been reading too for quete some time without posting.
> I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a bunch
> of rascists.
>
I think there is a paradox hidden in here somewhere!!!
Zeppo
--
'We would have injected vitamin C if only they had made it illegal!'
--
Mattia Valente
Why bother posting at all?
Mattia Valente
>
> Caroline <carolin...@strath.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:8c8008$hsl$1...@rockall.cc.strath.ac.uk...
> > Hi there!
> >
> >
> > Name: Caroline
> > Age: 21
> > Sex: Female
> > Nationality: German
> > Languages Spoken: English, German, French
> > Occupation: Third Year Business Administration at the WWU Münster, but on
> > exchange in Glasgow right now
> > TV: Buffy, Angel, DC, ER, ...too many to mention!
> >
> > Well, this is actually my first posting in this NG, but I've been reading
> > for a while! I think I am definitely not the only one who's only been
> > reading this NG without posting.
> >
> > Caz
> >
> >
> >
> I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a bunch
> of rascists.
Ooh, look, a lurker who came out to Troll (either that, or someone whom
I don't want to get into a discussion with at all...it would just get me
all worked up ;-)
Mattia
Mattia Valente
> the new ones.
I'll probably wait for the reveiw before racing out, but no one I know
in Holland is reading the books, else I'd borrow it, and then possibly
buy the trade paperback.
> >> >If you like
> >> >SF/(slight)horror, I recommend the Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F.
> >> >Hamilton, great stuff, eat up more of your time (3 1,000+ page books..)
> >>
> >> Hear, hear! Best space opera I ever read.
> >
> >I'm wondering what he'll write next. I'm reading the Mindstar books
> >(read Quantum Murder yesterday....they're too damn short, only take a
> >coupla hours ;-) Quite good, but not as amazing as the Night's Dawn
> >stuff...I think I'll re-read the whole thing over the summer.
> >
> >BTW, Peter F. Hamilton will be in Holland in a week and a half or so
> >(starting the 12th of April) doing book signings in Amsterdam (American
> >Book Center) and I think Rotterdam and Utrecht. If someone cares, I'll
> >post the dates, even if its OT...
>
> Please do! It's been a while since I've been to Amsterdam to buy some good
> books. Well, ok, three months at most and I still have 20 must-reads beside
> my bed, but this is a good excuse to go again and buy some good SF. Here in
> Groningen we have nothing like the American Book Centre or Book Exchance (at
> the Kloveniersburgwal).
Never heard of the Book Exchange..sounds like a trip coming up this
afternoon ;-) THing I like about the American Book center is you get
discounts if you are a student..
Anway, these are the dates and times, as I recieved them:
Wednesday 12th April
20.00 - 21.30 Signing and speaking at Broese Kemink, Utrecht
Thursday 13th April
19.30 - 20.30 Signing session American Book Center, Amsterdam
Friday 14th April
15.00 - 16.30 signing and speaking at Donner Books, Rotterdam
Mattia
Peter Kleiweg
> I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a bunch
> of rascists.
Please don't dazzle us with your enlightened opinions.
--
Peter Kleiweg
Paul McIntyre
> You're right. I 've been reading too for quete some time without posting.
> of rascists.
That was just a totally random thing to say. . .
Why???
Mattia Valente
>
> Butz Wrote:
> > You're right. I 've been reading too for quete some time without posting.
> > I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a bunch
> > of rascists.
>
> That was just a totally random thing to say. . .
> Why???
Cuz he's dutch? we/they (can't completely identify with em..) have
issues with the Germans. Its that whole WW I and WW II thing clinging
on...being the first invaded and last liberated (or practically) doesn't
really help. I would have thought it had worn off by now (and for the
most part has, but thats the German Stereotpye as far as still too many
dutchies are concerned...)
Mattia
Fuzzy
Mattia Valente wrote in message <38E872DF...@std.vu.nl>...
>> Please do! It's been a while since I've been to Amsterdam to buy some
good
>> books. Well, ok, three months at most and I still have 20 must-reads
beside
>> my bed, but this is a good excuse to go again and buy some good SF. Here
in
>> Groningen we have nothing like the American Book Centre or Book Exchance
(at
>> the Kloveniersburgwal).
>
>Never heard of the Book Exchange..sounds like a trip coming up this
>afternoon ;-) THing I like about the American Book center is you get
>discounts if you are a student..
You live in Amsterdam....You like English SF.....You DON'T know about the
Book Exchange.....One of us is very confused here and I honestly don't know
which <g>. Ok, to be honest, It's a second hand bookshop (as you might have
guessed from the name) so I see how you could have missed it, but it has a
cellar full of SF. It's useful if you can buy books at less than half price
if yer a student.
>
>Anway, these are the dates and times, as I recieved them:
>
>Wednesday 12th April
>20.00 - 21.30 Signing and speaking at Broese Kemink, Utrecht
>
>Thursday 13th April
>19.30 - 20.30 Signing session American Book Center, Amsterdam
>
>Friday 14th April
>15.00 - 16.30 signing and speaking at Donner Books, Rotterdam
Thanks! Unfortunately only on weekdays. Ah well...
Sierk
>
>Mattia
Fuzzy
zeppo wrote in message <38e86ac4$0$59...@news2.zeelandnet.nl>...
>
>
>
>> You're right. I 've been reading too for quete some time without posting.
>> I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a
bunch
>> of rascists.
>>
>
And a very nice one it is. I was LOL until I realised it probably wasn't
irony but stupidity.
Don't worry about it Caroline! You're welcome here on my account.
Sierk
meeEEEOW
Name: Robyn Smith
Age: 13
Sex: Female
Nationality: English
Languages Spoken: English, er, thatz just about it fluently, but i can speak
a bit of french and spanish
Occupation: Still at school
Music:Punk, metal
Films:Horror
Books:Not much into them really, but I like horror books mostly
Hobbies:Roller skating, roller blading, playing the electric guitar
Arkasha
> Say, aren't there any non-Dutch persons on this ng?
Well, they're coming out of the woodworks:
(cut and pasted)
Name: Paul McIntyre
Age: 18
Sex: Male
Nationally: English
Name: Keith King
Age 19 (20 in may, yippee)
Sex: Male
Nationality: English, with a bit of Irish for good luck
Name: Robyn Smith
Age: 13
Sex: Female
Nationality: English
Nice to see it not just "us" here
P@rick
38E8B702...@std.vu.nl...
> Paul McIntyre wrote:
> >
> > Butz Wrote:
posting.
> > > I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a
bunch
> > > of rascists.
> >
> > Why???
>
> Cuz he's dutch? we/they (can't completely identify with em..) have
> issues with the Germans. Its that whole WW I and WW II thing clinging
> on...being the first invaded and last liberated (or practically) doesn't
> really help. I would have thought it had worn off by now (and for the
> most part has, but thats the German Stereotpye as far as still too many
> dutchies are concerned...)
>
> Mattia
>
And what's even more frightening, they actually believe that vampires exist.
Now they're on patrol all night, searching for those invading Nazi-Vampires.
Not enough sleep can make a person delusional.
Bye, Patrick
--
Keeper of the Willowism, "And I'm eating this banana. Lunchtime be damned!"
Defender of the Lost Willowism, "Yeah, Most of it!"
Mattia Valente
>
> Mattia Valente wrote in message <38E872DF...@std.vu.nl>...
>
> >> Please do! It's been a while since I've been to Amsterdam to buy some
> good
> >> books. Well, ok, three months at most and I still have 20 must-reads
> beside
> >> my bed, but this is a good excuse to go again and buy some good SF. Here
> in
> >> Groningen we have nothing like the American Book Centre or Book Exchance
> (at
> >> the Kloveniersburgwal).
> >
> >Never heard of the Book Exchange..sounds like a trip coming up this
> >afternoon ;-) THing I like about the American Book center is you get
> >discounts if you are a student..
>
> You live in Amsterdam....You like English SF.....You DON'T know about the
> Book Exchange.....One of us is very confused here and I honestly don't know
> which <g>. Ok, to be honest, It's a second hand bookshop (as you might have
> guessed from the name) so I see how you could have missed it, but it has a
> cellar full of SF. It's useful if you can buy books at less than half price
> if yer a student.
Hey, gimme a break...I only moved here...uhh...um...well...OK its been
about 6 months......Me go look tomorrow <walks off with his tail between
his legs (figuratively speaking, that is ;-) >
Mattia
Xander X
>Name: Xander Kok <- yeah, mock me *l0l*
>Age: 26
>Sex: Male
>Nationality: Dutch
>Languages Spoken: English, Dutch, German, Spanish
>Occupation: webdesigner/network operator
>Other: Buffy addict and proud owner of Buffy statue #0123
>Music: Garbage, Nirvana, Madness, Iron Maiden, Enigma, Radioheads, Sade, Club, The Orb, some classical works
>Books: Tolkien and Stephen King
>Hobby other then Buffy *eg* : Playing the occasional guitar and keyboard,
Cheers,
Xander.
~speed gives you a high~
Caroline
"Butz" <b...@bbb.bb> wrote in message news:8c9mt0$1hr4$1...@news.kabelfoon.nl...
>
> You're right. I 've been reading too for quete some time without posting.
> I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a bunch
> of rascists.
This was definitely not the answer I thought I would get afetr posting in
this NG! Don't you think you are quite prejudiced?! Are you telling me I
shouldn't bother posting here because you've got a problem with German
people? I think this is really pathetic! Do you think I would live in
Scotland if I didn't like foreigners? I think you should be careful with
posting such things as people really could get offended! And by the way,
saying that you don't like the Germans...don't you think this sounds a bit
racist???
Anyway, I really do not want to start arguing about anything here, but I
thought I should at least defend myself.
Caz
Xander X
<carolin...@strath.ac.uk> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>"Butz" <b...@bbb.bb> wrote in message news:8c9mt0$1hr4$1...@news.kabelfoon.nl...
>>
>> You're right. I 've been reading too for quete some time without posting.
>> I'm from Holland and I don't like Germans by the way. They're just a bunch
>> of rascists.
>
*snip*
> And by the way,
>saying that you don't like the Germans...don't you think this sounds a bit
>racist???
I'll second to that!
I am from Holland and i really dont have problems with German peeps :)
Infact, they are wonderful people and this WW2 shit is just crap. Grow
up and get lost. It's 2000 now.
Gerade eine Frage. Auf was Führung erhalten Sie Buffy?
Fuzzy
Mattia Valente wrote in message <38E91A49...@std.vu.nl>...
>> >afternoon ;-) THing I like about the American Book center is you get
>> >discounts if you are a student..
>>
>> You live in Amsterdam....You like English SF.....You DON'T know about the
>> Book Exchange.....One of us is very confused here and I honestly don't
know
>> which <g>. Ok, to be honest, It's a second hand bookshop (as you might
have
>> guessed from the name) so I see how you could have missed it, but it has
a
>> cellar full of SF. It's useful if you can buy books at less than half
price
>> if yer a student.
>
>Hey, gimme a break...I only moved here...uhh...um...well...OK its been
>about 6 months......Me go look tomorrow <walks off with his tail between
>his legs (figuratively speaking, that is ;-) >
Only six months! You're forgiven then ;)
>
>Mattia
>
>
Caroline
"Xander X" <x...@xxx.com> wrote in message
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>
> I am from Holland and i really dont have problems with German peeps :)
> Infact, they are wonderful people and this WW2 shit is just crap. Grow
> up and get lost. It's 2000 now.
Cheers! That is exactly what I think as well! Maybe I just should have kept
myself quiet and not have replied to the mail about racsism, but I couldn't
help it. But your are absoultely right, it's all history (which the Germans
are definitely not proud of). And that's about all I have to say about it!
> Gerade eine Frage. Auf was Führung erhalten Sie Buffy?
Do you mean on which channel they are broadcasting Buffy in Germany? If yes,
it is Pro7, but I have to admit I never watched it in German at all. I just
started watching it when I came to Scotland and unfortunately I totally
missed all of the first season! I've seen some German (S3) episodes over
X-mas and I thought they were awful compared to the original! The voices
have nothing in common at all!!!
Do you get a dubbed version in Holland or do you have subtitles?
Caz
Caroline
"Fuzzy" <si...@hetnet.nl> wrote in message
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(*snip*)
> Don't worry about it Caroline! You're welcome here on my account.
Thanks! I'll take that for granted then! :-)
Caz
Jonathan Black
> it is Pro7, but I have to admit I never watched it in German at all. I just
> started watching it when I came to Scotland and unfortunately I totally
> missed all of the first season! I've seen some German (S3) episodes over
> X-mas and I thought they were awful compared to the original! The voices
> have nothing in common at all!!!
> Do you get a dubbed version in Holland or do you have subtitles?
We have subtitles, fortunately, though sometimes they are "interestingly"
translated. For example, did anyone happen notice, in "Graduation Day,
Part I", when Oz and Willow are lying in bed together and she's telling
him how she feels different and asking him if he does too and he says:
Oz: "I know exactly what you mean."
Willow: "Which part?"
That last line of Willow's was subtitled as "Welk lichaamsdeel?" (==
"Which *body* part?") !!
Are there some sick people doing that job or what?!
--
J o N a T H a N
Mattia Valente
>
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Caroline wrote:
>
> > it is Pro7, but I have to admit I never watched it in German at all. I just
> > started watching it when I came to Scotland and unfortunately I totally
> > missed all of the first season! I've seen some German (S3) episodes over
> > X-mas and I thought they were awful compared to the original! The voices
> > have nothing in common at all!!!
> > Do you get a dubbed version in Holland or do you have subtitles?
Subtitles thank god....I've watched Buffy in german once (Lie to Me) and
it was absolutely horrible. Really terrible. I've watched it many a time
in france (Used to live there, parents still do..) and its pretty bad,
but nowhere near as terrible as the german..
> We have subtitles, fortunately, though sometimes they are "interestingly"
> translated. For example, did anyone happen notice, in "Graduation Day,
> Part I", when Oz and Willow are lying in bed together and she's telling
> him how she feels different and asking him if he does too and he says:
>
> Oz: "I know exactly what you mean."
>
> Willow: "Which part?"
>
> That last line of Willow's was subtitled as "Welk lichaamsdeel?" (==
> "Which *body* part?") !!
>
> Are there some sick people doing that job or what?!
I've been noticing that a lot of late...Fox8 is even worse on the whole,
with their series. Often times they never bothered to listen to what was
being said, and other times they just don't understand what the hell the
slang expressions mean..happens more often than I would care to count.
One incident that sticks in my mind is the subtitling in an episode of
Dawsons creek (the one where Jack writes his 'gay' poem): Joey says:
"Promise me, no more poetry from now on" (well something like that), and
the subtitles say "promise me you'll write more peoms from now on.." The
Fools! And later in the same episode, her dad shows up, she says "Daddy"
and the subtitles say "Eddie" or something incredibly stupid like
that...
Mattia
george van hal
Jonathan Black wrote:
>
> > Do you get a dubbed version in Holland or do you have subtitles?
>
> We have subtitles, fortunately, though sometimes they are "interestingly"
> translated. For example, did anyone happen notice, in "Graduation Day,
> Part I", when Oz and Willow are lying in bed together and she's telling
> him how she feels different and asking him if he does too and he says:
>
> Oz: "I know exactly what you mean."
>
> Willow: "Which part?"
>
> That last line of Willow's was subtitled as "Welk lichaamsdeel?" (==
> "Which *body* part?") !!
>
> Are there some sick people doing that job or what?!
*lol* that one's fairly funny. Often you see people translating a show who have
obviously never seen it before and just get things wrong (happened with Buffy as
well a few times, can't think of a particular example right now). But most of the
time it's just funny. Imagine if we *did* have voice overs. And they did it
wrong. That could get fairly weird (apart from the fact that voice overs simply
*suck*)
See Ya,
George
Mattia Valente
You cannot imagine how true that is...Having watched several eps in
French (well, about half of seasons 2 and 3...) I can definately tell
you the translation is worse than the voiceover issue. They can't
translate half the jokes becuase they are a) hard to translate and b)
the translators suck ass. I just sit there going "NO!!!!!they RUINED
that Joke! Its supposed to be FUNNY!!!" at which point the people
watching it with me get annoying and tell me to shut up...I honestly
wonder how the show has become so popular in France considering half the
funny is out of it.
Examples I remeber clearly: First of all, Doppelgangland (and no, no
umlaut, I'm too lazy..;-) the Old reliable/Old Faithful/Old yeller bit
with Willow Xander and Buffy was not funny at all, not in the least, and
bore no resemblance to the original sequence which is one of my faves
(admittedly, I have a lot of them..) Next: the Finest columbian lighter
fluid coffe line was non existant (grad day), as was the whole "Never
heard of a dumber plan/we could attack them with humus/I stand
corrected". The Fire Bad Tree Pretty line was translated into me tired,
me don't understand...takes the funny out of that one.....(can you tell
I saa Grad Day pt 2 in french a week and a half ago ;-)
Mattia