Five by Five (no spoilers)
george van hal
tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
starts.
Ok, so I did watch. Even if I hadn't been spoiled for the Buffy eps I
still would've been able to enjoy this Angel ep. The information that
was needed to understand the events in the ep were suplied. Anyways the
ep itself was tremendously *good*. It was the best stuff I've seen in
either Buffy *or* Angel this season. It simply rocked. It was way up
there with all the s2 and s3 greats. Definatly an ep thats going into my
top10 list. Of course I don't want to overhype it, because that mostly
leads to disapointment and as such to less enjoyment. So keep your
expectations low (if that's possible after what I wrote so far) and then
be stunned by the fact that Joss and co. still have the touch ;-) Simply
great and its really hard to fight the urge to post my review this very
moment. Only thing thats keeping me is the fact that no ones going to
actually *read* my review if I post it now. Not going to mind rewatching
this ep in five weeks though....
Oh and next weeks sanctuary, the second part of this two parter looks
very good as well. I'm just hoping they can keep this high quality
up....
See Ya,
George
Who's aching to discuss this ep........
Jonathan Black
> Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch
> five by five tonight?
Check :)
> Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, /
Thanks :)
> / but now the hard part starts.
[shrugs] :)
> Ok, so I did watch. Even if I hadn't been spoiled for the
> Buffy eps I still would've been able to enjoy this Angel ep.
> The information that was needed to understand the events in
> the ep were suplied.
I figured people like you would start making coments like this
right about now ;-)
> See Ya,
> George
> Who's aching to discuss this ep........
Look, people, I really don't wan't anyone to feel they can't
discuss these eps beacuse of the 5x5 project. I'm sure there are
plenty who have watched it tonight. You, Peter and Andrea to
start with. Please feel free to engage in heated debate just like
old times. I may even look those threads up in five weeks time.
Bye,
--
J o N a T H a N
Arkasha
hal0...@wxs.nl wrote:
> Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by
five
> tonight?
I did
<snip the hype-ing>
Why can't they make more Buffy eps like this ???
I even cried.
Arkasha
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Before you buy.
Fuzzy
"george van hal" <hal0...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
news:39C66FF9...@wxs.nl...
> Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by
five
> starts.
>
> Ok, so I did watch. Even if I hadn't been spoiled for the Buffy eps I
> still would've been able to enjoy this Angel ep. The information that
> was needed to understand the events in the ep were suplied.
And better yet, I've been hardly spoiled for the Buffy eps that are still
to come. Apart from that obvious thing, of course, but everybody who
watched last weeks promo was spoiled for that. I've got the distinct
impression that Joss meant it to be that way and I hope they will keep
this up in the eps yet to come.
> Anyways the
> ep itself was tremendously *good*. It was the best stuff I've seen in
> either Buffy *or* Angel this season. It simply rocked. It was way up
> there with all the s2 and s3 greats. Definatly an ep thats going into
my
> top10 list.
Well, I wouldn't go *that* far. It has some great drama, though. It isn't
a "Passion", but it's certainly up there with "Lie to Me". Let's say
8.5-ish?
> Of course I don't want to overhype it,
I think you just did :)
> because that mostly
> leads to disapointment and as such to less enjoyment.
> So keep your
> expectations low (if that's possible after what I wrote so far) and
then
> be stunned by the fact that Joss and co. still have the touch ;-)
Simply
> great and its really hard to fight the urge to post my review this very
> moment.
Than don't fight it, write it!
> Only thing thats keeping me is the fact that no ones going to
> actually *read* my review if I post it now.
I would! But I agree it would be more fun if the 5x5-ers joined us.
> Not going to mind rewatching
> this ep in five weeks though....
Me neither..
> Oh and next weeks sanctuary, the second part of this two parter looks
> very good as well. I'm just hoping they can keep this high quality
> up....
Missed the promo as usual. Can hardly wait till next week, though!
Sierk
Mattia Valente
> Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by five
> tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
> starts.
Me didn't watch it. Although reading this message makes my fingers itch
for the remote control to the VCR...Its gonna be tough getting through
the first few weeks, I think.
> Ok, so I did watch.
Duh.
> Even if I hadn't been spoiled for the Buffy eps I
> still would've been able to enjoy this Angel ep. The information that
> was needed to understand the events in the ep were suplied. Anyways the
> ep itself was tremendously *good*. It was the best stuff I've seen in
> either Buffy *or* Angel this season. It simply rocked. It was way up
> there with all the s2 and s3 greats.
Better than Hush and WaH and Somthing Blue? Or are you talking for pure
big drama ep type stuff, which has not been very prominent as of yet?
Damn it, your tempting me! I'm not even sure why I'm doing the 5x5
thing, other than its a sound theory. Its not like I'm not spoiled for
the rest of the season...Argh!!!!
> Definatly an ep thats going into my
> top10 list. Of course I don't want to overhype it, because that mostly
> leads to disapointment and as such to less enjoyment. So keep your
> expectations low (if that's possible after what I wrote so far) and then
Yeah, right. Nice move George. Oh, and Peter said it was really good, so
that doesn't make things any easier.
> be stunned by the fact that Joss and co. still have the touch ;-) Simply
> great and its really hard to fight the urge to post my review this very
> moment. Only thing thats keeping me is the fact that no ones going to
> actually *read* my review if I post it now.
Well, Andrea, Peter and Fuzzy will read and reply to it, although me,
JB, Saskia, P@rick and Judith won't (ok, so not like you'll miss the
input from the last one all that much ;-)
Discuss away, I'll keep the messages on ice until I've watched it. Keep
in mind that we will be discussing the episode again in 5 weeks. I know
P@rick will post a review once he's seen it (wonder if he managed to
resist the temptation...only reason I did was that I was at a choir
rehersal, as per usual.)
> Not going to mind rewatching this ep in five weeks though....
:-))
> Oh and next weeks sanctuary, the second part of this two parter looks
> very good as well. I'm just hoping they can keep this high quality
> up....
:-)
Well, supposedly it just keeps on going in style for the rest of S1 of
Angel, and Buffy eps coming up are also supposed to be quite very good
indeed. Better than the rest of the season. You know your making this
hard, don't you?
> Who's aching to discuss this ep........
I can imagine..
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Who's even more torn than before. Damn it! I have the distinct feeling
that if some of the others crack I will too...If I don't anyway.
Mattia Valente
> > Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by
> five
> > tonight?
>
You did?
> <snip the hype-ing>
>
> Why can't they make more Buffy eps like this ???
> I even cried.
So you mean you didn't. You DID watch it. You DIDN't not watch it.
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
reading this and other replies isn't helping.
Must....resist.....temptation....
george van hal
> > George
> > Who's aching to discuss this ep........
>
> discuss these eps beacuse of the 5x5 project. I'm sure there are
> plenty who have watched it tonight. You, Peter and Andrea to
> start with. Please feel free to engage in heated debate just like
> old times. I may even look those threads up in five weeks time.
Well, I thought it would simply be more fun if all the 5x5-ers joined in
as well. Now I saw Peter allready posted his comments on the ep though,
so I'll probably be starting a 5x5 thread (and replying to peters)
sometime tomorrow. It seems I overestimated the amount of 5x5-ers in
this group (plus mattia is about to crack ;-))
See Ya,
George
Who's a bit tired atm and will probably hit the sack soonish.....
george van hal
Arkasha wrote:
> In article <39C66FF9...@wxs.nl>,
> hal0...@wxs.nl wrote:
> > Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by
> five
> > tonight?
>
> I did
>
> <snip the hype-ing>
>
> Why can't they make more Buffy eps like this ???
> I even cried.
I *know*. It was, like, powerfull......
See Ya,
George
Who might be rewatching this ep *tomorrow*
george van hal
Mattia Valente wrote:
> george van hal wrote:
> > Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by five
> > tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
> > starts.
>
> Me didn't watch it. Although reading this message makes my fingers itch
> for the remote control to the VCR...Its gonna be tough getting through
> the first few weeks, I think.
Yep. And I, for one, am definatly not going to make it any easier......
> > Ok, so I did watch.
>
> Duh.
:-p
> > Even if I hadn't been spoiled for the Buffy eps I
> > still would've been able to enjoy this Angel ep. The information that
> > was needed to understand the events in the ep were suplied. Anyways the
> > ep itself was tremendously *good*. It was the best stuff I've seen in
> > either Buffy *or* Angel this season. It simply rocked. It was way up
> > there with all the s2 and s3 greats.
>
> Better than Hush and WaH and Somthing Blue? Or are you talking for pure
> big drama ep type stuff, which has not been very prominent as of yet?
Pure big drama ep type stuff. Which is enjoy the most out of all Buffy eps. As
for better than Hush. Well, yes, imho. Better than SB? Well yes again. Better
than WaH? Again yes, but that ones closer......
> Damn it, your tempting me! I'm not even sure why I'm doing the 5x5
> thing, other than its a sound theory. Its not like I'm not spoiled for
> the rest of the season...Argh!!!!
Well just give in and watch. I promise you won't be sorry (well, at least I
don't think so....)
> > Definatly an ep thats going into my
> > top10 list. Of course I don't want to overhype it, because that mostly
> > leads to disapointment and as such to less enjoyment. So keep your
> > expectations low (if that's possible after what I wrote so far) and then
>
> Yeah, right. Nice move George. Oh, and Peter said it was really good, so
> that doesn't make things any easier.
Nope. Peter liking the ep is the best recomendation *any*one could give.....
> > be stunned by the fact that Joss and co. still have the touch ;-) Simply
> > great and its really hard to fight the urge to post my review this very
> > moment. Only thing thats keeping me is the fact that no ones going to
> > actually *read* my review if I post it now.
>
> Well, Andrea, Peter and Fuzzy will read and reply to it, although me,
> JB, Saskia, P@rick and Judith won't (ok, so not like you'll miss the
> input from the last one all that much ;-)
Yep. Gonna be posting my review tomorrow (or perhaps tonight if I don't fall
asleep soonish)
> Discuss away, I'll keep the messages on ice until I've watched it. Keep
> in mind that we will be discussing the episode again in 5 weeks. I know
> P@rick will post a review once he's seen it (wonder if he managed to
> resist the temptation...only reason I did was that I was at a choir
> rehersal, as per usual.)
Yup. I'll be joining in at that time as well......
> Mattia
> ReplyMeister[tm]
> Who's even more torn than before. Damn it! I have the distinct feeling
> that if some of the others crack I will too...If I don't anyway.
You *know* you're too much like me in this particular area. Just give in
allready. I mean you're the guy that watched the eps we were to watch together
for the first time before we did so :-)
george van hal
> And better yet, I've been hardly spoiled for the Buffy eps that are still
> to come. Apart from that obvious thing, of course, but everybody who
> watched last weeks promo was spoiled for that. I've got the distinct
> impression that Joss meant it to be that way and I hope they will keep
> this up in the eps yet to come.
Indeed. This Angel ep did not do too much spoilage for the Buffy eps. Next
weeks ep could be worse buffy spoiler wise though because of
you-know-what......
> > Anyways the
> > ep itself was tremendously *good*. It was the best stuff I've seen in
> > either Buffy *or* Angel this season. It simply rocked. It was way up
> > there with all the s2 and s3 greats. Definatly an ep thats going into
> my
> > top10 list.
>
> Well, I wouldn't go *that* far. It has some great drama, though. It isn't
> a "Passion", but it's certainly up there with "Lie to Me". Let's say
> 8.5-ish?
Well, not really a passion. Its just as good as the big s3 eps though. s2 is
of course way up there in storylines, but I can't really say that the big eps
from that season were incredibly much better than 5x5. They were better,
absolutly, but we haven't been so close in ages.....
> > Of course I don't want to overhype it,
>
> I think you just did :)
Perhaps :-)
> Than don't fight it, write it!
Tomorrow :-)
> > Only thing thats keeping me is the fact that no ones going to
> > actually *read* my review if I post it now.
>
> I would! But I agree it would be more fun if the 5x5-ers joined us.
Precisely. We'll just have to discuss now and in 5 weeks....
> > Not going to mind rewatching
> > this ep in five weeks though....
>
> Me neither..
Yay! ;-)
> > Oh and next weeks sanctuary, the second part of this two parter looks
> > very good as well. I'm just hoping they can keep this high quality
> > up....
>
> Missed the promo as usual. Can hardly wait till next week, though!
Ah. Never mind that "you know what" part earlier in this message than. It
looks great, though!!
See Ya,
George
Mattia Valente
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:41:46 +0200, george van hal <hal0...@wxs.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by five
> >tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
> >starts.
>
>
> I saw it, liked it, hated it
Huh? You're not making all too much sense here. Did you like it or not
in the end? Good ep/Bad ep?
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Confusing message, but it helps the 5x5 cause..in my case, at least ;-)
Mattia Valente
> Mattia Valente wrote:
> > > Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by five
> > > tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
> > > starts.
> >
> > for the remote control to the VCR...Its gonna be tough getting through
> > the first few weeks, I think.
>
> Yep. And I, for one, am definatly not going to make it any easier......
You don't say (btw, I'm being sarcastic here. Sarcasm dripping off this
one like..um..drippy stuff.)
> > > Ok, so I did watch.
> >
> > Duh.
>
> :-p
:-ş
(sorry, that's the best I can come up with..)
> > Better than Hush and WaH and Somthing Blue? Or are you talking for pure
> > big drama ep type stuff, which has not been very prominent as of yet?
>
> Pure big drama ep type stuff. Which is enjoy the most out of all Buffy eps. As
Right. I tend to have seperate lists for different types of eps,
although I agree the big drama ones are the most bestest ones in
general. When done well.
> for better than Hush. Well, yes, imho. Better than SB? Well yes again. Better
Hard to compare. Those two were mainly comic (IMHO, of course. Hush was
pretty dramatic, to a degree, though.)
> than WaH? Again yes, but that ones closer......
Right. Easier to compare. WaH isn't in my top list, to be honest. The
Veruca thing wasn't dealt with well enough.
> > Damn it, your tempting me! I'm not even sure why I'm doing the 5x5
> > thing, other than its a sound theory. Its not like I'm not spoiled for
> > the rest of the season...Argh!!!!
>
> Well just give in and watch. I promise you won't be sorry (well, at least I
> don't think so....)
Grr...thou art evil, I tell thee! Thou dost tempt me with Angel
episodes! Caught am I twixt opposing desires that rage within my
mind..(did I use twixt correctly there? who knows..)
I'm going to try to hold out becasue a) I'm busy anyway, and b) I do
think its worth it. Watching 2 season finales on one day is especially
appealing :-)
> > Yeah, right. Nice move George. Oh, and Peter said it was really good, so
> > that doesn't make things any easier.
>
> Nope. Peter liking the ep is the best recomendation *any*one could give.....
Pretty much. Although the reverse is not always true. Then again, he
really likes SAR, which I for one don't really understand. The point is,
you two *agree* on an ep (from what little information I've been able to
glean from non spoilery posts) to some degree. That's what makes it all
the more scary ;-)
> > Well, Andrea, Peter and Fuzzy will read and reply to it, although me,
> > JB, Saskia, P@rick and Judith won't (ok, so not like you'll miss the
> > input from the last one all that much ;-)
>
> Yep. Gonna be posting my review tomorrow (or perhaps tonight if I don't fall
> asleep soonish)
OK then. I'll download the messages and keep them for a while. Did that
with 'Hero', actually.
> > Discuss away, I'll keep the messages on ice until I've watched it. Keep
> > in mind that we will be discussing the episode again in 5 weeks. I know
> > P@rick will post a review once he's seen it (wonder if he managed to
> > resist the temptation...only reason I did was that I was at a choir
> > rehersal, as per usual.)
>
> Yup. I'll be joining in at that time as well......
Phew. 5 weeks is enough time so that repeating yourself a little won't
be stale or nothin? Of course, we all know we can go on about BBC eps
when we feel inspired, and most of us have seen those more than 3 times
already :-)
> > Who's even more torn than before. Damn it! I have the distinct feeling
> > that if some of the others crack I will too...If I don't anyway.
>
> You *know* you're too much like me in this particular area. Just give in
> allready.
No! I can hold out! I really can! Thing I see as a biger porblem is only
watching one ep a week in 5 weeks...
> I mean you're the guy that watched the eps we were to watch together
> for the first time before we did so :-)
<covers ears and starts chanting nonsense to block out the Evil George
Person>
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Xander X
>Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by five
>tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
>starts.
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Ok, Faith. I was highly disturbed that she broke down and actually
wanted Angel to kill her.. and asking to help her afterwards.
Any spoilage on this? What happens to Faith?
(sorry, I don't watch Angel. but this made me wonder)
_
X-rays are now diagnosing even rare X-factors
Xander X
<mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
>Xander X wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:41:46 +0200, george van hal <hal0...@wxs.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by five
>> >tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
>> >starts.
>>
>> <snips a lot of text>
>>
>> I saw it, liked it, hated it
>
>Huh? You're not making all too much sense here. Did you like it or not
>in the end? Good ep/Bad ep?
>
>Mattia
>ReplyMeister[tm]
>Confusing message, but it helps the 5x5 cause..in my case, at least ;-)
Thats exactly my point.
See my spoiler.. or not *lol*
Xander X
wrote:
>Ok, so be honest. How many of you guys managed to not watch five by five
>tonight? Everyone that didn't watch: Kudos, but now the hard part
>starts.
<snips a lot of text>
I saw it, liked it, hated it
<SPOILER>
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Fuzzy
"george van hal" <hal0...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
news:39C68EA6...@wxs.nl...
It's hard do compare this one to an S3 ep. The atmosphere is totally
different. One could compare it to Helpless, perhaps. About as good, I'd
say.
> > > Oh and next weeks sanctuary, the second part of this two parter
looks
> > > very good as well. I'm just hoping they can keep this high quality
> > > up....
> >
> > Missed the promo as usual. Can hardly wait till next week, though!
>
> Ah. Never mind that "you know what" part earlier in this message than.
It
> looks great, though!!
I probably *do* know what you mean. The promo had just finished when a
friend called and said: "Well, that was a strange ep!" (He's more a BBB
or DGL man and less a P or BI&II man). "And next week ...<Insert that
spoiler here>.
For a moment I was greatly tempted to ask if his mother was called
Andrea.
I admit it makes the chance be getting spoiled a bit bigger, but I hope
they'll keep it to a minimum.
Sierk