The prom [spoilers]
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Wow...what a rush!!
Lets start by saying that I absolutly *loved* this episode even though I
did *not* want to see the buffy and angel relationship end.
To start with the obvious: Buffy and angel broke up!!!! We knew it was
coming (especially since joss seemed to place not so subtle hints in the
last few eps....just look at the majors speach in choices for instance),
but we didn't know when. The fact that joyce was the one to start
everything off kind off makes me dislike her character even more than I
did before. I know she's supposed to be the responsable one allways
taking the adult aproach to every problem but she outstepped her
boundries there. I can't get past the fact that joyce did what she did
because she hates buffy's life as a vampire slayer and everything it
stands for (we've seen this before in gingerbread (even if it was under
influence of a demon) and a few other eps). I really don't think she
went to angel to convince him to end the relationship because she
thought it was best for buffy, but because it was best for buffy to
achieve the things *she* wants buffy to achieve.
Even although joyce reasons might not have been the best, she *was*,
however much I hate to admit it, right and even if she hadn't gone to
angel he probably would've ended the relationship anyways.
The buffy and angel relationship has allways been one of the major
pilars on which the show has been built and wich has made the show the
succes it is today. Ending it (even though angel gets his own show -
something david boreanaz certainly deserved since his character could
not evolve any further in the main show) took gut and you've got to
respect that. Still I can't help but worry about the show we're left
with once season 4 hits the airways.
The second mayor event in this episode was the not so briliantly titled
"class protector award" (the name's really really lame if you ask me).
Buffy finally gets the recognition she deserves and the people in
sunnydale (or at least in highschool) prove that they're not as ignorant
about what's happening around them as you might have assumed from
previous eps. If you ask me this scene was done briliantly and gets my
emotions running away with me eacht time I see it.
Than of course angel shows up at the prom to dance with buffy and even
though it would've been better script writing or whatnot to not let him
show up I think everyone (me included) really needed to see buffy and
angel dance at the prom. It just makes sense that way.
The only thing that really didnt lay well with me in this ep was the
whole hellhound thing. Can you say "unconvincing monster"?? It was of
course only a diversion of the real events in this episode, but still I
wish joss would have the guts to just leave out the supernatural stuff
for one episode. I think the whole breakup/prom thing deserved that. It
of course did prove the point again that buffy would put aside her own
fun to make everyone elses life better, but we knew that allready. It
was nice to see that in here, but I wouldn't have minded if it had not
been in there.
Anyways thats it. Comments anyone?
See Ya,
George
Arkasha
surprisingly to myself i liked it too.
> To start with the obvious: Buffy and angel broke up!!!! We knew it was
> coming (especially since joss seemed to place not so subtle hints in the
> last few eps....just look at the majors speach in choices for instance),
> but we didn't know when.
I'm not a big fan of Buffy/Angel-let's-whine-some-more-scenes, but i
must admit the break up part really moved me.
<snip> I can't get past the fact that joyce did what she did
> because she hates buffy's life as a vampire slayer and everything it
> stands for (we've seen this before in gingerbread (even if it was under
> influence of a demon) and a few other eps). I really don't think she
> went to angel to convince him to end the relationship because she
> thought it was best for buffy, but because it was best for buffy to
> achieve the things *she* wants buffy to achieve.
Interesting point, i think your right and if the scriptwriters wrote
that scene with that in mind, than this serie is even better written
that i already thought.
<snip>
> The buffy and angel relationship has allways been one of the major
> pilars on which the show has been built and wich has made the show the
> succes it is today. Ending it (even though angel gets his own show -
> something david boreanaz certainly deserved since his character could
> not evolve any further in the main show) took gut and you've got to
> respect that. Still I can't help but worry about the show we're left
> with once season 4 hits the airways.
Hopefully a show with more development of the other "scooby gang"
characters
> The second mayor event in this episode was the not so briliantly titled
> "class protector award" (the name's really really lame if you ask me).
> Buffy finally gets the recognition she deserves and the people in
> sunnydale (or at least in highschool) prove that they're not as ignorant
> about what's happening around them as you might have assumed from
> previous eps. If you ask me this scene was done briliantly and gets my
> emotions running away with me eacht time I see it.
The show must have had quite some criticism along the lines of "way
don't all those people get suspicious of all those
killings/dispearings/dubble Willow's etc.
I think this was an excellent way to show how the rest of Sunnydale was
thinking. Even thought the scene was a tad over sentimental ( well, what
can you expect from america ) it was a brilliant move from the writers.
> Than of course angel shows up at the prom to dance with buffy and even
> though it would've been better script writing or whatnot to not let him
> show up I think everyone (me included) really needed to see buffy and
> angel dance at the prom. It just makes sense that way.
The ep would have been perfect for me with Angel not showing up, but of
course i suspected he would.
> The only thing that really didnt lay well with me in this ep was the
> whole hellhound thing. Can you say "unconvincing monster"?? It was of
> course only a diversion of the real events in this episode
I think it was needed for Buffy to take her mind of Angel. The
"unconvincing" part for me was the fact the after these hellhound showed
up everyone seemed to forget about the mayor ascension business and
acted as if taking care of the hellhounds was the only supernatural
point on the agenda.
<snip>
>
> Anyways thats it. Comments anyone?
Buffy's prom dress.....one word: Hideous
Cordelia fall from riches to broke was a bit "kort door de bocht" (
excuse my dutch ) but Xander helping out was a nice touch.
Arkasha
dovey
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> The only thing that really didnt lay well with me in this ep was the
> whole hellhound thing. Can you say "unconvincing monster"??
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> Anyways thats it. Comments anyone?
One thing bugs me about those monsters. Buffy went to the butcher to get
the address of that boy. That's all fine but why didn't she later bought
some brains and used them in battle.
Like feeding them so they could kill them easier. Or put some brains
outside the dancing place so the monsters would have their belly's full
before going inside.
Things like that could have been easily written into the script and it
would have been a nice and different way of killing (i mean slaying...)
monsters. It just bugs me that it didn't happen that way :-)
Bye,
Dovey
Rob
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>coming (especially since joss seemed to place not so subtle hints in the
>last few eps....just look at the majors speach in choices for instance),
>everything off kind off makes me dislike her character even more than I
>did before. I know she's supposed to be the responsable one allways
>taking the adult aproach to every problem but she outstepped her
>because she hates buffy's life as a vampire slayer and everything it
>stands for (we've seen this before in gingerbread (even if it was under
>influence of a demon) and a few other eps). I really don't think she
>went to angel to convince him to end the relationship because she
>thought it was best for buffy, but because it was best for buffy to
>achieve the things *she* wants buffy to achieve.
>however much I hate to admit it, right and even if she hadn't gone to
>angel he probably would've ended the relationship anyways.
>
I think Joyce was just being a mom. How would you feel when your daughter
had a job that puts her in mortal danger almost every day (or night).
Buffy's life expectancy can't be more than a few years. So as a mom you
would like her to have some "normal time" and hopefully some fun. A
vampire with all his limitations just isn't a good partner to achieve this.
Or at least a mom (and me) would think that. Buffy can't affort to give it
a few years and than find somebody else. She'll be dead by than. So I
don't think that Joyce acted out of selfishness but rather out of love.
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>The second mayor event in this episode was the not so briliantly titled
>"class protector award" (the name's really really lame if you ask me).
Yep, but let's say it's the thought that counts.
>Buffy finally gets the recognition she deserves and the people in
>sunnydale (or at least in highschool) prove that they're not as ignorant
>about what's happening around them as you might have assumed from
>previous eps. If you ask me this scene was done briliantly and gets my
>emotions running away with me eacht time I see it.
>
No argument here.
>Than of course angel shows up at the prom to dance with buffy and even
>though it would've been better script writing or whatnot to not let him
>show up I think everyone (me included) really needed to see buffy and
>angel dance at the prom. It just makes sense that way.
>
Again, I agree. But I expected from the beginning he would show. It was
just that kind of ep.
>The only thing that really didnt lay well with me in this ep was the
>whole hellhound thing. Can you say "unconvincing monster"?? It was of
>course only a diversion of the real events in this episode, but still I
>wish joss would have the guts to just leave out the supernatural stuff
>for one episode. I think the whole breakup/prom thing deserved that. It
>of course did prove the point again that buffy would put aside her own
>fun to make everyone elses life better, but we knew that allready. It
>was nice to see that in here, but I wouldn't have minded if it had not
>been in there.
>
You might be right. But you need some action in a BtVS episode, that's
just the way it is. I also didn't mind some distraction from all the "feel
good" stuff that was going on. (See also my own post). Otherwise it
would be too much, I believe.
Rob