Angel 3x19 'The Price' (S3 Spoilers)
Niall Harrison
Spoilers for the episode that I've seen before the americans! Hurrah!
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OK, that rocked.
Mattia, that ending was the spoiler Tafka had read.
But, damn. That was fun.
Strong substantive scenes! For, like, everyone! Cordy rocking the house!
Groo still being funny! Wesley! Creepy slimey demony things that Gunn's
scared of like he was scared of rats in 'Heartthrob'! Lilah and Gavin!
(And Cordy wearing something that covered her hair for the entire
episode...!)
Oh, and yeah: 'Billy' redux. Didn't I tell you it was coming? Huh? :-)
Let's count the references: Angel brings about some evil. That posesses
someone. In the hotel. (Was this a horror movie homage of some kind, too?)
Lorne says 'Go team!'
And Cordy demon powers. Well, you don't wanna do *that* in public.
"Consequences. There's always consequences."
Want more!
Now, what are the odds of resisting this copy of 6x19 until 6x18 shows up,
d'you reckon?
More sane analysis stuff may follow later...
Niall
--
Christ, it's like Tim Bruening with a manifesto sometimes, it really is.
Tafka
+0000 (UTC) in alt.buffy.europe said:
>Spoilers for the episode that I've seen before the americans! Hurrah!
Hmm.
I'm not sure about the ep yet. It was good, certainly, but there's a
niggling feeling I have about it.
>Mattia, that ending was the spoiler Tafka had read.
Yup.
Although something seems wrong about it - it's all a bit
Terminator-ish... I'm sure that these feelings are pikelet's fault
though (the Connor-theory).
>But, damn. That was fun.
I'd guess.
>Strong substantive scenes! For, like, everyone! Cordy rocking the house!
>Groo still being funny! Wesley! Creepy slimey demony things that Gunn's
>scared of like he was scared of rats in 'Heartthrob'! Lilah and Gavin!
I really did like Groo this ep, especially with the colours at the
beginning of the episode - very nice :)
And I'm very pleased to see Gavin back - even if the Gavin/Lilah
scenes were all worked as an after thought to fill-out the script they
worked well IMO.
>(And Cordy wearing something that covered her hair for the entire
>episode...!)
Thankfully.
>Oh, and yeah: 'Billy' redux. Didn't I tell you it was coming? Huh? :-)
I wonder how many people have died because of Angel's mistakes this
season then? :)
>And Cordy demon powers. Well, you don't wanna do *that* in public.
What was it with this? She manages to emit something which kills
whatever she's holding? I still want the consequences....
>More sane analysis stuff may follow later...
How long does it take you man?
Leave alt.tv.angel alone and get your review finished (checks...) Oh,
it is.
Still - discuss here!
-Tafka-
Now you can look to the Sun, and spot the moon
Niall Harrison
> Hmm.
Is this along the lines of 'why hasn't Cordy been to see Wes'? Becuase I'm
doing that one to death on ata. :-)
I don't think there's anything in the episode that really screams "this is
genius!" But I think there's an awful lot of very, very good material.
>>Mattia, that ending was the spoiler Tafka had read.
>
> Yup.
> Although something seems wrong about it - it's all a bit
> Terminator-ish... I'm sure that these feelings are pikelet's fault
> though (the Connor-theory).
I know it's cliched, and cheesy...but I still thought it was a cool
entrance.
> And I'm very pleased to see Gavin back - even if the Gavin/Lilah
> scenes were all worked as an after thought to fill-out the script they
> worked well IMO.
Agreed. It was nice to get the W&H viewpoint.
>>(And Cordy wearing something that covered her hair for the entire
>>episode...!)
>
> Thankfully.
There are people that like it, you know. Strange but true.
>>Oh, and yeah: 'Billy' redux. Didn't I tell you it was coming? Huh? :-)
>
> I wonder how many people have died because of Angel's mistakes this
> season then? :)
Angel's mistakes? Angel's deliberate choices, more like. :-P
>>And Cordy demon powers. Well, you don't wanna do *that* in public.
>
> What was it with this? She manages to emit something which kills
> whatever she's holding?
Not just that - all the slugs in the hotel. So maybe it was something
along the lines of removing creatures that shouldn't be in this dimension.
> I still want the consequences....
Well, y'know how many times they mentioned that nothing comes for free in
this episode? I'm guessing that's significant.
>>More sane analysis stuff may follow later...
>
> How long does it take you man?
>
> Leave alt.tv.angel alone and get your review finished (checks...) Oh,
> it is.
Ha!
> Still - discuss here!
If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their time
talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
Niall
--
God made this single day for sinners everywhere.
Mattia Valente
I just don't really have the time, frankly. And the Buffy discussion isn't
particularly in-depth. Oh, and, uh, for the record:
if anyone has questions for any of the starfury guests (checp
starfury.co.uk for a full listing...basically, JAR, Acker, Romanov, Benz,
EE Allen, Kramer, Renner) ask 'em, maybe I'll get answers for ya ;-)
Mattia
Working on his guitar like a crazy person
Tafka
alt.buffy.europe said:
Is AA (or maybe Benz?) willing to become umta's pet?
We'd keep her and cherish her, honest.
-Tafka-
Suck my thermos!
Tafka
Well that and I don't know what (I've noticed your discussion over
there, btw...)
>I don't think there's anything in the episode that really screams "this is
>genius!" But I think there's an awful lot of very, very good material.
Well, yeah. It's not got any stand-out moments (and not the ending
either ;P) but it's good overall.
>> Yup.
>> Although something seems wrong about it - it's all a bit
>> Terminator-ish... I'm sure that these feelings are pikelet's fault
>> though (the Connor-theory).
>
>I know it's cliched, and cheesy...but I still thought it was a cool
>entrance.
Well, personally, I don't care what's happened to Connor in the
inbetween - I'll tolerate it if it gets to my objective: Where's Holtz
and what's he up-to? If he dies off-screen (i.e during Connor's
upbringing) I will *not* be happy.
I want him back :(
>> And I'm very pleased to see Gavin back - even if the Gavin/Lilah
>> scenes were all worked as an after thought to fill-out the script they
>> worked well IMO.
>
>Agreed. It was nice to get the W&H viewpoint.
And, well, Gavin. Yay.
>>>Oh, and yeah: 'Billy' redux. Didn't I tell you it was coming? Huh? :-)
>>
>> I wonder how many people have died because of Angel's mistakes this
>> season then? :)
>
>Angel's mistakes? Angel's deliberate choices, more like. :-P
That as well :)
>>>And Cordy demon powers. Well, you don't wanna do *that* in public.
>>
>> What was it with this? She manages to emit something which kills
>> whatever she's holding?
>
>Not just that - all the slugs in the hotel. So maybe it was something
>along the lines of removing creatures that shouldn't be in this dimension.
I worded it wrong; the context is this:
Cordelia is able to emit something which kills (all of) whatever
(creature) she's holding?
Y'see?
>> Still - discuss here!
>
>If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their time
>talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
Gah. She's dead. She'll stay dead. Spike's gone. Anya's kept her
hairstyle for two episodes running. MT looked nice in 18-19 and
manages to not be annoying. The troika have gone. There's another two
weeks for a new episode (unless these rumours of "SR" being 'fake' in
someway are true) - get over it already! Angel's the way forward
people!
We have 3 episodes left and the quality had better be good so we have
a nice plot resolution for the season 'arc'.
/rant
-Tafka-
Suck my thermos!
Niall Harrison
Thought you might have done. Brings to mind Tim's description of ata as
the Lapaz of usenet...
>>I don't think there's anything in the episode that really screams "this is
>>genius!" But I think there's an awful lot of very, very good material.
>
> Well, yeah. It's not got any stand-out moments (and not the ending
> either ;P)
What can I say? I'm a sucked for dramatic entrances.
> but it's good overall.
Yep.
>>> Yup.
>>> Although something seems wrong about it - it's all a bit
>>> Terminator-ish... I'm sure that these feelings are pikelet's fault
>>> though (the Connor-theory).
>>
>>I know it's cliched, and cheesy...but I still thought it was a cool
>>entrance.
>
> Well, personally, I don't care what's happened to Connor in the
> inbetween - I'll tolerate it if it gets to my objective: Where's Holtz
> and what's he up-to? If he dies off-screen (i.e during Connor's
> upbringing) I will *not* be happy.
He won't have done. That would be dumb, and stop them exploring the
father/son issues properly.
Plus, ep 21 has a suitably Holtz-ian title.
>>> And I'm very pleased to see Gavin back - even if the Gavin/Lilah
>>> scenes were all worked as an after thought to fill-out the script they
>>> worked well IMO.
>>
>>Agreed. It was nice to get the W&H viewpoint.
>
> And, well, Gavin. Yay.
Gavin's great.
>>>>Oh, and yeah: 'Billy' redux. Didn't I tell you it was coming? Huh? :-)
>>>
>>> I wonder how many people have died because of Angel's mistakes this
>>> season then? :)
>>
>>Angel's mistakes? Angel's deliberate choices, more like. :-P
>
> That as well :)
Check.
>>>>And Cordy demon powers. Well, you don't wanna do *that* in public.
>>>
>>> What was it with this? She manages to emit something which kills
>>> whatever she's holding?
>>
>>Not just that - all the slugs in the hotel. So maybe it was something
>>along the lines of removing creatures that shouldn't be in this dimension.
>
> I worded it wrong; the context is this:
> Cordelia is able to emit something which kills (all of) whatever
> (creature) she's holding?
>
> Y'see?
Oh, OK. That would make sense. A possible barrier to com-shukking Angel?
>>> Still - discuss here!
>>
>>If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their time
>>talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
>
> Gah. She's dead. She'll stay dead.
But it's so saaaaaad!
> Spike's gone. Anya's kept her
> hairstyle for two episodes running. MT looked nice in 18-19 and
> manages to not be annoying.
I know! I was amazed.
> The troika have gone.
Well, 'cept Warren.
> There's another two
> weeks for a new episode (unless these rumours of "SR" being 'fake' in
> someway are true)
Nah. That would be a bit extreme for ME.
> - get over it already! Angel's the way forward people!
Preach it!
> We have 3 episodes left and the quality had better be good so we have
> a nice plot resolution for the season 'arc'.
Amen. For both shows, please.
Niall
--
If it wasn't for the good souls
Life would not matter.
Mattia Valente
>>>Is this along the lines of 'why hasn't Cordy been to see Wes'?
>>>Becuase I'm doing that one to death on ata. :-)
>>
>> Well that and I don't know what (I've noticed your discussion over
>> there, btw...)
>
> Thought you might have done. Brings to mind Tim's description of ata
> as the Lapaz of usenet...
Ooookaaaaay.......
/me wonders what ata is like, but frankly, doesn't have the time or the
will or the spoiler-resistance to find out for certain.
>> Well, yeah. It's not got any stand-out moments (and not the ending
>> either ;P)
>
> What can I say? I'm a sucked for dramatic entrances.
Yes, but dramatic exits leave you cold, so...
>> but it's good overall.
>
> Yep.
Ya-huh.
>> Well, personally, I don't care what's happened to Connor in the
>> inbetween - I'll tolerate it if it gets to my objective: Where's
>> Holtz and what's he up-to? If he dies off-screen (i.e during Connor's
>> upbringing) I will *not* be happy.
You Holtz Fanboy, you.
> He won't have done. That would be dumb, and stop them exploring the
> father/son issues properly.
Damn stright.
> Plus, ep 21 has a suitably Holtz-ian title.
Which is? Can't be arsed to check epguides. I knew it once, but I've
forgotten it.
>>>> And I'm very pleased to see Gavin back - even if the Gavin/Lilah
>>>> scenes were all worked as an after thought to fill-out the script
>>>> they worked well IMO.
>>>
>>>Agreed. It was nice to get the W&H viewpoint.
>>
>> And, well, Gavin. Yay.
>
> Gavin's great.
Yay Gav!
>>>> I wonder how many people have died because of Angel's mistakes this
>>>> season then? :)
>>>
>>>Angel's mistakes? Angel's deliberate choices, more like. :-P
>>
>> That as well :)
>
> Check.
Heh. You say that like his deliberate choices can't be mistakes at the same
time :-p
>> I worded it wrong; the context is this:
>> Cordelia is able to emit something which kills (all of) whatever
>> (creature) she's holding?
>>
>> Y'see?
>
> Oh, OK. That would make sense. A possible barrier to com-shukking
> Angel?
Ooer.
...actually, no, stop talking Pylean.
>>>If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their
>>>time talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
>>
>> Gah. She's dead. She'll stay dead.
>
> But it's so saaaaaad!
It is. Stop being so sarcastic. And it was shocking, too.
>> Spike's gone. Anya's kept her
>> hairstyle for two episodes running. MT looked nice in 18-19 and
>> manages to not be annoying.
>
> I know! I was amazed.
Pfft...
>> The troika have gone.
>
> Well, 'cept Warren.
That's more of an unoka, isn't it?
>> There's another two
>> weeks for a new episode (unless these rumours of "SR" being 'fake' in
>> someway are true)
>
> Nah. That would be a bit extreme for ME.
Damned well hope it's not.
>> - get over it already! Angel's the way forward people!
>
> Preach it!
*smap*
Look, if a lot more stuff of import happened in the two (count 'em) Buffy
eps we watched than in 'The Price', quite frankly. A lot of it more
interesting. TP had a good vibe, nice acting, overall niceness, and an
ending that's troubling because of it's possible implications, but it
doesn't compare to the death of a loved character for heartstring pulling.
Simple, really.
Now, if we'd only had 'Entropy' up against 'The Price', it would've been a
far better match, and more 'Angel' discussion.
>> We have 3 episodes left and the quality had better be good so we have
>> a nice plot resolution for the season 'arc'.
>
> Amen. For both shows, please.
Yes. Pray to the god of Greenwalt, people.
Mattia
Saskia
On 2 May 2002, Mattia Valente wrote:
> Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in
> > Previously, on alt.buffy.europe - Tafka wrote:
> >> Still - discuss here!
> >
> > If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their
> > time talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
:-P Buffy is just way cooler and much funner to talk about.
[d,h&r]
> I just don't really have the time, frankly. And the Buffy discussion isn't
> particularly in-depth. Oh, and, uh, for the record:
I haven't had much time either. Will try to respond to some stuff tonight
or so. Also, we're with so few ppl here, maybe 5 or so who post
regularly. We need more. I want more. Think I'll go recruit again in TOG
[tm] [1].
> if anyone has questions for any of the starfury guests (checp
> starfury.co.uk for a full listing...basically, JAR, Acker, Romanov, Benz,
> EE Allen, Kramer, Renner) ask 'em, maybe I'll get answers for ya ;-)
Can't think of a thing.... oh wait, can they please have The Arms sent to
Alphen aan den Rijn? Ta.
:)
--
Saskia
[1] Yay Acronyms!
Tafka
>>>Is this along the lines of 'why hasn't Cordy been to see Wes'? Becuase I'm
>>>doing that one to death on ata. :-)
>>
>> Well that and I don't know what (I've noticed your discussion over
>> there, btw...)
>
>Thought you might have done. Brings to mind Tim's description of ata as
>the Lapaz of usenet...
I haven't *read* anything on ata, mind... I just hit "next unread
message" and saw you posting about Cordy :P
>>>I know it's cliched, and cheesy...but I still thought it was a cool
>>>entrance.
>>
>> Well, personally, I don't care what's happened to Connor in the
>> inbetween - I'll tolerate it if it gets to my objective: Where's Holtz
>> and what's he up-to? If he dies off-screen (i.e during Connor's
>> upbringing) I will *not* be happy.
>
>He won't have done. That would be dumb, and stop them exploring the
>father/son issues properly.
I would like - with the script for "The Price" indicating Connor's
pointing the weapon at Angel's heart - to have a little
'confrontation' between these two before Holtz jumps through a
mystical portal (like Connor appeared through) to spice it up.
If the W&H scenes were originally scripted then I'd like them to burst
in, Lilah going for it after all - but since they were add-ons it
won't happen.
>Plus, ep 21 has a suitably Holtz-ian title.
True, but I'd like him in ep20 :)
>> And, well, Gavin. Yay.
>
>Gavin's great.
Yup - glad to see he's back and therefore not left as per the ata
speculation.
>> I worded it wrong; the context is this:
>> Cordelia is able to emit something which kills (all of) whatever
>> (creature) she's holding?
>>
>> Y'see?
>
>Oh, OK. That would make sense. A possible barrier to com-shukking Angel?
Ooh, nice. Nice.
>>>> Still - discuss here!
>>>
>>>If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their time
>>>talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
>>
>> Gah. She's dead. She'll stay dead.
>
>But it's so saaaaaad!
You laughed at it :P
>> Spike's gone. Anya's kept her
>> hairstyle for two episodes running. MT looked nice in 18-19 and
>> manages to not be annoying.
>
>I know! I was amazed.
At which? Or all? Personally the MT looking nice bit was best :)
>> The troika have gone.
>
>Well, 'cept Warren.
But they've broken down and we're left with this pathetic wreck (as
evidenced by the end).
>> - get over it already! Angel's the way forward people!
>
>Preach it!
>> We have 3 episodes left and the quality had better be good so we have
>> a nice plot resolution for the season 'arc'.
>
>Amen. For both shows, please.
Er.. Buffy's had a very disjointed arc IMO. Unless you call the
"getting over being dead" thing an arc. That's been played out far too
much :)
-Tafka-
No, you'll prove I can trust you when the day comes that you have to
kill me, and you do.
Tafka
alt.buffy.europe said:
ata doesn't have unmarked spoilers for future episodes - not as far as
I can see at least.
>>> Well, personally, I don't care what's happened to Connor in the
>>> inbetween - I'll tolerate it if it gets to my objective: Where's
>>> Holtz and what's he up-to? If he dies off-screen (i.e during Connor's
>>> upbringing) I will *not* be happy.
>
>You Holtz Fanboy, you.
He's been good for the season.
>> Plus, ep 21 has a suitably Holtz-ian title.
>
>Which is? Can't be arsed to check epguides. I knew it once, but I've
>forgotten it.
I think I knew it, but I won't post all three for spoilers sake.
(B / ANW / T - that's them isn't it?)
>>>>If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their
>>>>time talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
>>>
>>> Gah. She's dead. She'll stay dead.
>>
>> But it's so saaaaaad!
>
>It is. Stop being so sarcastic. And it was shocking, too.
Maybe, maybe not.
-Tafka-
Believe me I don't wanna go, and it'll grieve me 'cause I love you so.
Niall Harrison
>>> Thought you might have done. Brings to mind Tim's description of ata
>>> as the Lapaz of usenet...
>>
>>Ooookaaaaay.......
>>
>>/me wonders what ata is like, but frankly, doesn't have the time or the
>>will or the spoiler-resistance to find out for certain.
>
> ata doesn't have unmarked spoilers for future episodes - not as far as
> I can see at least.
Yep, it tends to be pretty good about that sort of thing. The Connor thing
was floating around, but that was kind of obvious anyway.
>>> Plus, ep 21 has a suitably Holtz-ian title.
>>
>>Which is? Can't be arsed to check epguides. I knew it once, but I've
>>forgotten it.
>
> I think I knew it, but I won't post all three for spoilers sake.
> (B / ANW / T - that's them isn't it?)
20 - 'A New World'
21 - 'Benediction'
22 - 'Tomorrow'
'Benediction' sounds Holtz-ian, I thought.
Niall
--
Memes don't exist. Tell your friends.
Niall Harrison
>> Thought you might have done. Brings to mind Tim's description of ata
>> as the Lapaz of usenet...
>
> Ooookaaaaay.......
>
> /me wonders what ata is like, but frankly, doesn't have the time or the
> will or the spoiler-resistance to find out for certain.
Well, Terry's almost got me convinced that Cordy's reaction is sensible,
so there's something to be said for it.
>>> Well, yeah. It's not got any stand-out moments (and not the ending
>>> either ;P)
>>
>> What can I say? I'm a sucked for dramatic entrances.
>
> Yes, but dramatic exits leave you cold, so...
Except 'Lullaby'.
>>>>> I wonder how many people have died because of Angel's mistakes this
>>>>> season then? :)
>>>>
>>>>Angel's mistakes? Angel's deliberate choices, more like. :-P
>>>
>>> That as well :)
>>
>> Check.
>
> Heh. You say that like his deliberate choices can't be mistakes at the
> same time :-p
So you're saying they're deliberate mistakes?
>>> I worded it wrong; the context is this:
>>> Cordelia is able to emit something which kills (all of) whatever
>>> (creature) she's holding?
>>>
>>> Y'see?
>>
>> Oh, OK. That would make sense. A possible barrier to com-shukking
>> Angel?
>
> Ooer.
>
> ...actually, no, stop talking Pylean.
Kyerumption! Moira! Com-shuk!
>>>>If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their
>>>>time talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
>>>
>>> Gah. She's dead. She'll stay dead.
>>
>> But it's so saaaaaad!
>
> It is.
I keep wishing it was Willow instead.
> Stop being so sarcastic.
Hey, it's fun, though.
> And it was shocking, too.
Well, yes.
However, all they've got to do is make the right wish in front of Anya and
it could all be undone.
>>> The troika have gone.
>>
>> Well, 'cept Warren.
>
> That's more of an unoka, isn't it?
That's no word! </StarWars>
>>> - get over it already! Angel's the way forward people!
>>
>> Preach it!
>
> *smap*
You can't handle the truth!
> Look, if a lot more stuff of import happened in the two (count 'em) Buffy
> eps we watched than in 'The Price', quite frankly.
Something happened in 'Entropy'? The best description I've yet come
across of that episode is "'Lover's Walk', as written by Marti Noxon".
Says it all, really. :-P
'The Price' had better character work than either _Buffy_ episode. It was
better plotted, too. And made better use of theme and symbolism. Sure, it
didn't have great Shock Revelation power, but it didn't need to.
> TP had a good vibe, nice acting, overall niceness, and an
> ending that's troubling because of it's possible implications, but it
> doesn't compare to the death of a loved character for heartstring pulling.
I was more affected by Wes' one scene in TP than by Tara's death. So
there.
> Now, if we'd only had 'Entropy' up against 'The Price', it would've been a
> far better match, and more 'Angel' discussion.
I'll live. It'll be _Angel_ only next week again, so...
>>> We have 3 episodes left and the quality had better be good so we have
>>> a nice plot resolution for the season 'arc'.
>>
>> Amen. For both shows, please.
>
> Yes. Pray to the god of Greenwalt, people.
Greenwalt's a god now?
Niall
--
I want to be someone else or I'll explode.
Niall Harrison
Latest update: Terry McNeal has almost convinced me that Cordy's reaction
is entirely in character.
>>>>I know it's cliched, and cheesy...but I still thought it was a cool
>>>>entrance.
>>>
>>> Well, personally, I don't care what's happened to Connor in the
>>> inbetween - I'll tolerate it if it gets to my objective: Where's Holtz
>>> and what's he up-to? If he dies off-screen (i.e during Connor's
>>> upbringing) I will *not* be happy.
>>
>>He won't have done. That would be dumb, and stop them exploring the
>>father/son issues properly.
>
> I would like - with the script for "The Price" indicating Connor's
> pointing the weapon at Angel's heart - to have a little
> 'confrontation' between these two before Holtz jumps through a
> mystical portal (like Connor appeared through) to spice it up.
About the portal - is there now a danger of the whole universe going
kablooie? Did Connor do something on his side to break through, or is he
back solely due to Angel's dark magic? The fact that he said 'hi dad'
seems to suggest the former.
> If the W&H scenes were originally scripted then I'd like them to burst
> in, Lilah going for it after all - but since they were add-ons it
> won't happen.
Check.
>>Plus, ep 21 has a suitably Holtz-ian title.
>
> True, but I'd like him in ep20 :)
Not gonna happen. Except possibly at the end of the episode as the
cliffhanger. :-)
>>> I worded it wrong; the context is this:
>>> Cordelia is able to emit something which kills (all of) whatever
>>> (creature) she's holding?
>>>
>>> Y'see?
>>
>>Oh, OK. That would make sense. A possible barrier to com-shukking Angel?
>
> Ooh, nice. Nice.
Except that I've just realised it only happens when she feels threatened -
my guess is, it's an instinctive defense mechanism. I doubt com-shuking
would be a situation that requires defense. :-/
>>>>> Still - discuss here!
>>>>
>>>>If people aren't posting about it 'cause they're spending all their time
>>>>talking about _Buffy_, there's not a lot I can do...
>>>
>>> Gah. She's dead. She'll stay dead.
>>
>>But it's so saaaaaad!
>
> You laughed at it :P
I did, but that was 'cause it looked implausible. Still, big picture =
sad.
Did I mention that I'm dreading the adoration that will inevitably flood
umtb next week?
>>> Spike's gone. Anya's kept her
>>> hairstyle for two episodes running. MT looked nice in 18-19 and
>>> manages to not be annoying.
>>
>>I know! I was amazed.
>
> At which?
The 'Dawn not being annoying' bit.
>>> We have 3 episodes left and the quality had better be good so we have
>>> a nice plot resolution for the season 'arc'.
>>
>>Amen. For both shows, please.
>
> Er.. Buffy's had a very disjointed arc IMO. Unless you call the
> "getting over being dead" thing an arc. That's been played out far too
> much :)
Well, yeah. Hence the hoping for a strong finish.
Niall
--
My vengeance will be swift and pathetic.
Tafka
>>>Thought you might have done. Brings to mind Tim's description of ata as
>>>the Lapaz of usenet...
>>
>> I haven't *read* anything on ata, mind... I just hit "next unread
>> message" and saw you posting about Cordy :P
>
>Latest update: Terry McNeal has almost convinced me that Cordy's reaction
>is entirely in character.
Which thread is it?
-|Tafka|-
Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Niall Harrison
Shanna's commentary. Which is usually the only thread I have time to post
to. :-)
Niall
--
Do I want the dreams?
Tafka
>>>> I haven't *read* anything on ata, mind... I just hit "next unread
>>>> message" and saw you posting about Cordy :P
>>>
>>>Latest update: Terry McNeal has almost convinced me that Cordy's reaction
>>>is entirely in character.
>>
>> Which thread is it?
>
>Shanna's commentary. Which is usually the only thread I have time to post
>to. :-)
I see it now. I thought it was a you/him conversation and that's what
I was skimming through looking for.
-Tafka-
"I meant to say, he's my favoritest character since Doyle."
"That's it, Angel's eating it." - Tim Minear