Where the wild things are [spoilers]
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Ok, so that was "Where the wild things are" (lengthy title that,
btw)....
Well I was expecting an episode that sucked bigtime. I mean how good can
an episode actually be that has a whole lot of Buffy/Riley sex? The
answer was provided to us by this evenings Buffy: Just above avarage...
The thing I feared most after last weeks Superstar turned out to be
true: No further explanations, Tara is now a part of the group (and her
thing with Willow still remains painfully undefined) and the Riley/Buffy
resentment has come to an end. In fact it has come to an end in such
extremes that we see them doing the wild thing all episode long. Which
is sort of amusing in that "Eww its Riley and he might be naked" kind of
way...
About the story of the episode itself: It wasn't very good. I mean: Frat
party gone wrong? Hauntings? Etc? Been there, done that. It seemed like
they threw a whole heap of old Buffy episodes together, threw it into
the "Make your own Buffy script in 5 minutes" machine and came up with
this....
There were some things that saved this episode from being among the
truly bad though. First off there was the question of atmosphere: The
music, the lighting, the camera movement, the gradual build up of
tension in those badroom scenes....
It was all there and it was spot on. Also, there were some fun lines,
but there wasn't one moment when they tried to ridicule the situation
itself. And that's impressive considering I even had a hard time to take
this weeks story serious. Now if only they handled the stories with a
greater potential this way...
As far as characterisation and relationships go, this was of course a
lot better than last weeks "Superstar" (but, then again, that's not
really a difficult task to accomplish). We saw, of course, Buffy and
Riley who've obviously recovered from Faith-in-Buffy sleeping with
Riley. Nothing much in the way of development going on there. We also
saw Xander and Anya who had their first fight and all. Thing that
bothers me about their relationship is the fact that it's being used for
comic relief. Now I'm all for humor, but do we really need another
kick-off point for funny lines?
And then of course there was Tara and Willow. They're both still in that
awkward undefined transitional state. It seems that apart from that "I
am you know.....yours" bit from Tara they really haven't expressed their
true feelings to each other. Tara's reaction to Willow's touch was, of
course, surprising (influenced by the house in all likeliness) and it
gave way to a nice reaction on Willow's face. These girls both still
seem insecure. I wonder where this is heading, if they'll define their
relationship soon....
Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
now singing. Color me stunned!! He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
priseless). One of the funniest scenes in the episode...
All in all, I think I'll give this episode a 6.5/10...
See Ya,
George
Dennis SCP
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> Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
> now singing. Color me stunned!! He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
> Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
> priseless). One of the funniest scenes in the episode...
Me thinking: Giles wants to stop but he can't since it's karaoke, that
would give away the prank. I expected the tape to crackle or something
awkward.
I mean that was not his voice. It was fake, it was stolen too. His
character now looks more like The Watcher from Highlander than ever
before. Ok, it isn't much: both are GOOD to the bone while having a wild
past. And now both are singing the blues in a smokey bar... come on. Ok,
so this bar wasn't smokey, but that's because Buffy is on at kiddie
time.
I found Spike quite funny. While Anya screwed up the fighting scene with
Xander. And I'm not gonna say anything about Willow since Buffy can
simply say she'll get horny and will fuck for the rest of the episode
while Willow can't even touch her girlfriend. They are walking on eggs
and it's so obvious it's starting to annoy me. They should have made
this a TV Movie episode and air it at a later time so that Willow can
have her first kiss, get really horny too and have some funny Willow
remarks when sharing the bed with Tara.
--
groetjes / Dennis
@nkhoŽ
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> Ok, so that was "Where the wild things are" (lengthy title that,
> btw)....
>
> Well I was expecting an episode that sucked bigtime. I mean how good can
> an episode actually be that has a whole lot of Buffy/Riley sex? The
> answer was provided to us by this evenings Buffy: Just above avarage...
>
> The thing I feared most after last weeks Superstar turned out to be
> true: No further explanations, Tara is now a part of the group (and her
> thing with Willow still remains painfully undefined)
yep that bothered me, a bit out of the blue, no questions where she came
from etc.
If one is new in a group one would expect the cross examening, non of that.
> and the Riley/Buffy
> resentment has come to an end. In fact it has come to an end in such
> extremes that we see them doing the wild thing all episode long.
Jeaulous? I know I am :o)
> Which
> is sort of amusing in that "Eww its Riley and he might be naked" kind of
> way...
euh?
> About the story of the episode itself: It wasn't very good. I mean: Frat
> party gone wrong? Hauntings? Etc? Been there, done that. It seemed like
> they threw a whole heap of old Buffy episodes together, threw it into
> the "Make your own Buffy script in 5 minutes" machine and came up with
> this....
But on the other hand, a bit more time for a little more debt into the other
characters.
Spike and anya, as if. ;o)
> There were some things that saved this episode from being among the
> truly bad though. First off there was the question of atmosphere: The
> music, the lighting, the camera movement, the gradual build up of
> tension in those badroom scenes....
hmmm you could better say the tension in the bedroom scenes. :o)
Oh you mean the drowning bid in the bathroom. :o)
> It was all there and it was spot on. Also, there were some fun lines,
> but there wasn't one moment when they tried to ridicule the situation
> itself.
yeah and the touchinh the wall bid, that was funny, but nobody
actually freaked out, except the haircutting one and tara.
> And that's impressive considering I even had a hard time to take
> this weeks story serious. Now if only they handled the stories with a
> greater potential this way...
Hmmm weak storie, no deaths , just turmoil, and what caused the
poltergeist activity?
> As far as characterisation and relationships go, this was of course a
> lot better than last weeks "Superstar" (but, then again, that's not
> really a difficult task to accomplish). We saw, of course, Buffy and
> Riley who've obviously recovered from Faith-in-Buffy sleeping with
> Riley.
yeah, big time.
> Nothing much in the way of development going on there. We also
> saw Xander and Anya who had their first fight and all.
neah, quarrel, not a fight.But fun , non the less.
> Thing that
> bothers me about their relationship is the fact that it's being used for
> comic relief. Now I'm all for humor, but do we really need another
> kick-off point for funny lines?
hey anya is just funny, like a small spoiled child saying what comes to her
without
shame.
> And then of course there was Tara and Willow. They're both still in that
> awkward undefined transitional state.
yeah , they seem to be in freeze mode, not much input from them
this time, except for the seance.
> It seems that apart from that "I
> am you know.....yours" bit from Tara they really haven't expressed their
> true feelings to each other. Tara's reaction to Willow's touch was, of
> course, surprising (influenced by the house in all likeliness) and it
> gave way to a nice reaction on Willow's face. These girls both still
> seem insecure. I wonder where this is heading, if they'll define their
> relationship soon....
Hey they could just be good wicka girlfriends, why does there need to be
more.
> Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
> now singing. Color me stunned!!
yeah totally freaky, but nicely sung.
> He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
> Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
> priseless).
yep, totally true.
> One of the funniest scenes in the episode...
hmmm.the spike anya interaction was kinda funny too.
> All in all, I think I'll give this episode a 6.5/10...
about right.
I hope for a 9/10 soon. :o)
> See Ya,
> George
>
Miriam Rocke
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: george van hal <hal0...@wxs.nl> wrote:
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: > Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
: > now singing. Color me stunned!! He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
: > Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
:
<snip>
:
: I mean that was not his voice. It was fake, it was stolen too.
"Not his" - not Giles', or not ASH's? 'Cause it definitely *was*
Tony's voice. I've heard him sing before. And while an argument
could be made that Giles and Tony don't necessarily have the same
voice (kinda like Cordelia and Charisma have way different acting
skills), I'm inclined to doubt it.
Mir
--
Miriam Rocke "Just so we're clear, you guys
mrr...@ucdavis.edu know you're nuts, right?"
http://handel.cipic.ucdavis.edu/~mrrocke/ --BtVS, "Gingerbread"
Mattia Valente
> would give away the prank. I expected the tape to crackle or something
> awkward.
I didn't. OK, so I actually had this sound clip already, but anyway ;-)
> I mean that was not his voice. It was fake, it was stolen too. His
Nope, I'm pretty sure (say, 99%) that it's actually his own voice. He
did start out as a stage actor, playey Frank in the Rocky Horro Picture
Show, I believe. And remember its .7076 half steps too high, so it may
sound a little funny ;-)
> character now looks more like The Watcher from Highlander than ever
> before. Ok, it isn't much: both are GOOD to the bone while having a wild
> past. And now both are singing the blues in a smokey bar... come on. Ok,
> so this bar wasn't smokey, but that's because Buffy is on at kiddie
> time.
And it wasn't blues. Perrenial Rock, that. Behind Blue Eyes, by the Who.
And anyway, Joe (that's that Highlander watcher guy's name, isn't it?)
is a blues guitarist, not folksy rocksy singer type dude ;-)
Other than that, a coupla similarities. And anyway, Highlander isn't any
more violent that Buffy most of the time..
> I found Spike quite funny. While Anya screwed up the fighting scene with
> Xander.
Wasn't great, wasn't terrible, was kinda vague and useless.
> And I'm not gonna say anything about Willow since Buffy can
> simply say she'll get horny and will fuck for the rest of the episode
> while Willow can't even touch her girlfriend.
That had something to do with the spell, methinks. Nothing with the
Tara/Willow thing. You know, Tara being overly sensetive to energies and
things like that.
> They are walking on eggs
> and it's so obvious it's starting to annoy me. They should have made
It's annoying me a little, but IMHO they've made it clear as glass that
the Willow/Tara thing is more than just friendship.
> this a TV Movie episode and air it at a later time so that Willow can
> have her first kiss, get really horny too and have some funny Willow
> remarks when sharing the bed with Tara.
I must say I'm not against that idea either...:-)
Mattia
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> Ok, so that was "Where the wild things are" (lengthy title that,
> btw)....
Well, yeah, considering most of the titles are one or two words long,
tops. Then again, you *do* have the occasional WTTH title, or OOMOOS
(better title than IG. IMHO.)
> Well I was expecting an episode that sucked bigtime. I mean how good can
So was I, cause you said I should, and I believed you :-)
> an episode actually be that has a whole lot of Buffy/Riley sex? The
> answer was provided to us by this evenings Buffy: Just above avarage...
Right. I was wondering about the famed 'sexfest' that some people were
telling me was to come. To tell you the truth it didn't particularly
bother me all too much. It wasn't fun either, though. I'm going to go
for average to just below average though. Decent for this season, anyway
(excluding the Roll[tm], of course ;-)
> The thing I feared most after last weeks Superstar turned out to be
> true: No further explanations, Tara is now a part of the group (and her
> thing with Willow still remains painfully undefined) and the Riley/Buffy
Well, painfully undefined, I wouldn't call it. Pretty damn, smack in the
face, kick in the head self evident, if you ask me. No explicit actions,
but the words and other behavious pretty much speaks for itself, IMHO.
Her position within the group is undefined; are the rest of the gang
deaf dumb and blind or something?
> resentment has come to an end. In fact it has come to an end in such
> extremes that we see them doing the wild thing all episode long. Which
> is sort of amusing in that "Eww its Riley and he might be naked" kind of
> way...
Uhuh..right. I thought it was amusing most of the time. I also wonder
how much of this is going to be snipperooed by the BBC when it comes
time to air it. Most sexual behaviour and grunting and moaning (whee!
and ORGASM wall! And more Orgasm jokes like 'Poltergam' and
stuff...hmmm, maybe a title for a porn flick? Never mind..)
> About the story of the episode itself: It wasn't very good. I mean: Frat
> party gone wrong? Hauntings? Etc? Been there, done that. It seemed like
> they threw a whole heap of old Buffy episodes together, threw it into
> the "Make your own Buffy script in 5 minutes" machine and came up with
> this....
Yeah, it seemed a little too re-hashy of old plotlines. Especially since
we've already *done* he haunted frathouse thing this season. Puh-lease!
Wasn't as terrible as your making it sound though, as far as writing.
Some (weak) character development was present, and loads of funny lines.
(which admittedly, we have enough of to last us a lifetime from this
season. More Drama please, Joss!)
> There were some things that saved this episode from being among the
> truly bad though. First off there was the question of atmosphere: The
> music, the lighting, the camera movement, the gradual build up of
> tension in those badroom scenes....
Bathroom is what I'm going to assume you mean ;-) It was a pretty good
MotW type ep, really, just not original enough. Had the funnies, but it
also lacked a clear baddie, it was all resolved quite simply and a
little too easily. Music, as usual, was good (kind of a Hush feel in one
place, if I remember the Hush music well enough..)
> It was all there and it was spot on. Also, there were some fun lines,
> but there wasn't one moment when they tried to ridicule the situation
> itself. And that's impressive considering I even had a hard time to take
> this weeks story serious. Now if only they handled the stories with a
> greater potential this way...
True..less of the throwaway mocking of situation than was present in
some eps. Refreshing. It made this ep sort of more serious than it might
otherwise have been. Eps like "Fear, Itself" were darker, for example,
but they had more ridicule (I mean, fear demon ring a bell?). Thing is,
this is probably not going to have any reprecussions at all.
> As far as characterisation and relationships go, this was of course a
> lot better than last weeks "Superstar" (but, then again, that's not
> really a difficult task to accomplish). We saw, of course, Buffy and
Especially considering that last week's character's weren't quite
themselves ;-)
> Riley who've obviously recovered from Faith-in-Buffy sleeping with
> Riley. Nothing much in the way of development going on there. We also
Exacltly nothing, to be precise.
> saw Xander and Anya who had their first fight and all. Thing that
> bothers me about their relationship is the fact that it's being used for
> comic relief. Now I'm all for humor, but do we really need another
> kick-off point for funny lines?
Not particularly. Some of those lines were funny, some less. And now
they're all happy-ish again, or something.
> And then of course there was Tara and Willow. They're both still in that
> awkward undefined transitional state. It seems that apart from that "I
> am you know.....yours" bit from Tara they really haven't expressed their
> true feelings to each other. Tara's reaction to Willow's touch was, of
> course, surprising (influenced by the house in all likeliness) and it
> gave way to a nice reaction on Willow's face. These girls both still
> seem insecure. I wonder where this is heading, if they'll define their
> relationship soon....
It's clear as day to me, though it doesn't seem to be to the both of
them (explicitly, at least..)
> Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
> now singing. Color me stunned!! He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
Well, he did do musicals in his dark and distant past..;-)
> Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
> priseless). One of the funniest scenes in the episode...
Well, not quite like Willow did (though I expect Mir did ;-)
Other great bits were the Spike ones, although he's still a little too
pathetic for my tastes. Oh well, such is life, I guess. Give him back
his fangs, please! Heard some little rumors about Spike that I don't
like AT ALL though..so I'll ignore them for a while.
Mattia
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Willow: "Oh, come on, he is kinda sexy."
Giles: (sings) "Like I do..."
Xander: "I'm fighting total mental breakdown here, Will. No more fueling
the fire please."
--WtWTA, BtVS
Mattia Valente
>
> I hope for a 9/10 soon. :o)
We already had that, very recently in fact. Not that I mind a repeat
soon, mind you ;-)
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Ninia
Mattia Valente <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> "@nkhoŽ" wrote:
> >
> > I hope for a 9/10 soon. :o)
>
> We already had that, very recently in fact. Not that I mind a repeat
> soon, mind you ;-)
There are always two numbers of qualification. For what is the first, for
what the second?
ninia
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> : > Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
> : > now singing. Color me stunned!! He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
> : > Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
> : > priseless). One of the funniest scenes in the episode...
> :
> <snip>
> :
> : I mean that was not his voice. It was fake, it was stolen too.
>
> "Not his" - not Giles', or not ASH's? 'Cause it definitely *was*
> Tony's voice. I've heard him sing before. And while an argument
> could be made that Giles and Tony don't necessarily have the same
> voice (kinda like Cordelia and Charisma have way different acting
> skills), I'm inclined to doubt it.
Not Giles. I saw the voice was dubbed, if it was Tony than it was
recorded in a sound studio, and he playbacked during the scene. Maybe it
was the other way around, meaning that the sound at the shoot didn't
came out good enough and they dubbed a recording from Tony over it.
That last thing is done a lot anyway, the most simple sounds are added
afterwards to enhance the scene. From knocking on and opening a door to
playing with candy paper in your hand.
--
groetjes / Dennis
Mattia Valente
IRL?
> And while an argument
> could be made that Giles and Tony don't necessarily have the same
> voice (kinda like Cordelia and Charisma have way different acting
> skills), I'm inclined to doubt it.
True..again, though, there's the singing voice vs. speaking voice issue
to consider. They can be two different beasts altogether..
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Mattia Valente
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> Mattia Valente <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> > >
> > > I hope for a 9/10 soon. :o)
> >
> > We already had that, very recently in fact. Not that I mind a repeat
> > soon, mind you ;-)
>
> There are always two numbers of qualification. For what is the first, for
> what the second?
I'm not quite sure I get your question, but I'm guessing you're
reffering to the 9/10? Basically nine points out of a possible total of
10. Like Dutch school grades, just made so that non-dutch people don't
get confused.
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
Hoping that was the question..
Jonathan Black
> Mattia Valente:
> > "@nkho®" wrote:
> >
> > > I hope for a 9/10 soon. :o)
> >
> > We already had that, very recently in fact. Not that I mind a
> > repeat soon, mind you ;-)
>
> There are always two numbers of qualification. For what is
> the first, for what the second?
Notice how that second one always seems to be a `10'? :) `9/10'
just means 9 points out of a possible 10, I think. One could also
say `4.5/5', `90%' or any number of other things.
--
J o N a T H a N
"Fourteen thirty?! Buffy, you kicked ass! -- Okay, so
academic achievement gets me a little excited..."
--Willow, `Lovers Walk'
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Rob
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> Ok, so that was "Where the wild things are" (lengthy title that,
> btw)....
>
Yes, but is it a good one ? I'm a bit puzzled by it. "Wild things" ?
Do they just mean B & R's hankypanky or is there a deeper meaning ? A
reference to something else ?
> Well I was expecting an episode that sucked bigtime. I mean how good can
> an episode actually be that has a whole lot of Buffy/Riley sex? The
> answer was provided to us by this evenings Buffy: Just above avarage...
It took me some time to decide whether I liked it or not. I think I agree
with you.
> The thing I feared most after last weeks Superstar turned out to be
> true: No further explanations, Tara is now a part of the group (and her
> thing with Willow still remains painfully undefined)
The fact that Tara is now "part of the group" is not that strange. There
is no law that states that somebody of the scoobygang cannot meet somebody
new and bring him or her along. Tara just comes along with Willow and
there is no reason for the others to dislike her or start an investigation
into her past or something. Also there is no need to officially introduce
her into the group. She accompanies Willow and thereby automatically
spends time with the others too. Normally it would take time to gradually
get to know each other and they would all become friends (or not), however
there are only four more eps in this season so I expect some mayor dramatic
developments in one or two of these eps to speed things up. Afterall they
have to kill Adam too.
Speaking of Adam; there is still not much going on concerning this "main
season villain". This superguy has so much potential to bring pain and
misery we lack so deerly in this season, but he hardly gets any screen time.
There was this thing about him bringing demons and vampires together in the
beginning of the ep, but he was nowhere to be seen.
I am afraid that we will have this great season finally where he will be
killed by Buffy but this won't create this huge feeling of satisfaction with
the viewers because he will only be just another demon. It takes time for
the viewers to get to know and hate the mayor bad guy so it will be
something special when he is finally beaten. At the moment Adam leaves me
cold.
(I do like his voice though).
<SNIP>
> About the story of the episode itself: It wasn't very good. I mean: Frat
> party gone wrong? Hauntings? Etc? Been there, done that. It seemed like
> they threw a whole heap of old Buffy episodes together, threw it into
> the "Make your own Buffy script in 5 minutes" machine and came up with
> this....
>
Yep (he said with a deep sigh).
> There were some things that saved this episode from being among the
> truly bad though. First off there was the question of atmosphere: The
> music, the lighting, the camera movement, the gradual build up of
> tension in those badroom scenes....
> It was all there and it was spot on. Also, there were some fun lines,
> but there wasn't one moment when they tried to ridicule the situation
> itself. And that's impressive considering I even had a hard time to take
> this weeks story serious. Now if only they handled the stories with a
> greater potential this way...
You're right
<SNIP>
We also
> saw Xander and Anya who had their first fight and all. Thing that
> bothers me about their relationship is the fact that it's being used for
> comic relief. Now I'm all for humor, but do we really need another
> kick-off point for funny lines?
>
This fight they had wasn't meant as a funny thing (although it had some
funny moments). It did gave us some more insight into the nature of their
relationship. It is obvious that Anya has more trouble adapting to being
human and all the complicated feelings and relations that come with it, than
we thought. I thought she had made a lot of progress but it turns out that
she still has no clue about what a relationship between a girl and a boy is
all about.
I liked those scenes with Spike and Anya. It also started me to suspect
that somehow Anya would regain her powers and do something unpleasant to
Xander. But obviously there wasn't time for a subplot like this in this
ep. (And I hope neither in any future ep). Still, it made me look
forward to future developments concerning X and A.
> And then of course there was Tara and Willow. They're both still in that
> awkward undefined transitional state. It seems that apart from that "I
> am you know.....yours" bit from Tara they really haven't expressed their
> true feelings to each other. Tara's reaction to Willow's touch was, of
> course, surprising (influenced by the house in all likeliness) and it
> gave way to a nice reaction on Willow's face. These girls both still
> seem insecure. I wonder where this is heading, if they'll define their
> relationship soon....
>
If she turns out to be Adam's secret and evil sister and gets killed in the
last ep by a crying but brave Willow, I will never look at a BtVS episode
again. (Yikes, did I really type that ?)
> Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
> now singing. Color me stunned!! He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
> Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
> priseless). One of the funniest scenes in the episode...
>
To be honest I wasn't surprised. There had been some talk about Giles
doing "something adult" or something along those lines, so I suspected he
would in fact be doing something silly. I didn't think he would be
singing but it didn't surprise me either. It doesn't seem out of character
or strange to me. He probably learned to play the guitar in his youth and
decided to pick it up again after he lost his (official) job. He has had a
lot more free time on his hands lately. Especially because he didn't have
to council and train Buffy as much as in the good old days.
Let's put this ep onto the "not a bad ep, but nothing really special" pile.
A pile that is already much too high, this season.
The "what a fantastic ep" and the "this ep makes me want to puke" piles
remain quite low. Let's hope S5 is much better.
Bye, Rob
Rob
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> killed by Buffy but this won't create this huge feeling of satisfaction
with
Not "finally" but "finale".
Bye, Rob
>
@nkhoŽ
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> Ninia wrote:
> > Mattia Valente:
> > > "@nkhoŽ" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hope for a 9/10 soon. :o)
> > >
> > > We already had that, very recently in fact. Not that I mind a
> > > repeat soon, mind you ;-)
> >
> > There are always two numbers of qualification. For what is
> > the first, for what the second?
>
> Notice how that second one always seems to be a `10'? :) `9/10'
> just means 9 points out of a possible 10, I think. One could also
> say `4.5/5', `90%' or any number of other things.
A - for the americans that may stumble in :o)
@nkhoŽ
"Rob" <r.z...@kabel.netvisit.nl> schreef in bericht
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Hmm, the kids in the orphanage maybe, they seemed to have been
pretty wild if you may believe the old bat.
So they might have been the wild things.
If they mean the sex thingy in this episode, lets call it
"where the mild things are" then :o)
> > Well I was expecting an episode that sucked bigtime. I mean how good can
> > an episode actually be that has a whole lot of Buffy/Riley sex? The
> > answer was provided to us by this evenings Buffy: Just above avarage...
>
> It took me some time to decide whether I liked it or not. I think I
agree
> with you.
>
> > The thing I feared most after last weeks Superstar turned out to be
> > true: No further explanations, Tara is now a part of the group (and her
> > thing with Willow still remains painfully undefined)
>
> The fact that Tara is now "part of the group" is not that strange. There
> is no law that states that somebody of the scoobygang cannot meet somebody
> new and bring him or her along.
Yeah, but usuually there would be some reaction in the group.
Some interaction , intrduction, questions etc.
> Tara just comes along with Willow and
> there is no reason for the others to dislike her or start an investigation
> into her past or something.
yes there is, they always do that. :o)
> Also there is no need to officially introduce
> her into the group. She accompanies Willow and thereby automatically
> spends time with the others too. Normally it would take time to
gradually
> get to know each other and they would all become friends (or not), however
> there are only four more eps in this season so I expect some mayor
dramatic
> developments in one or two of these eps to speed things up. Afterall
they
> have to kill Adam too.
yep,only 4 more to go,hmmm.
> Speaking of Adam; there is still not much going on concerning this "main
> season villain". This superguy has so much potential to bring pain and
> misery we lack so deerly in this season, but he hardly gets any screen
time.
ah you noticed too.Maybe he will hook up to a mainframe and will
connect to the internet and rule the world from there, but we have had
a kind of episode like that.
> There was this thing about him bringing demons and vampires together in
the
> beginning of the ep, but he was nowhere to be seen.
Hey, you know how it goes, not the right demons at hand, budget cuts
it is afterall the militairy who build him.:o)
yep, the line "except for both of us liking your dick" says enough. :o)
> It is obvious that Anya has more trouble adapting to being
> human and all the complicated feelings and relations that come with it,
than
> we thought.
hmmm the line" you are not going away, are you" in several episodes
gave me that idear already.:o)
> I thought she had made a lot of progress but it turns out that
> she still has no clue about what a relationship between a girl and a boy
is
> all about.
> I liked those scenes with Spike and Anya. It also started me to suspect
> that somehow Anya would regain her powers and do something unpleasant to
> Xander.
neah, she wouldn`t do anything unpleasant to xander, somehow she seems
to be in love with him, but has no clue what to do with it.
Hmmm a spin off series about Giles his youth would be kinda cool.
More indept into the watchers .
Miriam Rocke
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: > : > Of course the biggest development in the ep was the fact that Giles is
: > : > now singing. Color me stunned!! He doesn't only sing, but he sings well!
: > : > Wow! I imagine we all kinda reacted like Willow did (which was
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: > : I mean that was not his voice. It was fake, it was stolen too.
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: > "Not his" - not Giles', or not ASH's? 'Cause it definitely *was*
: > could be made that Giles and Tony don't necessarily have the same
: > voice (kinda like Cordelia and Charisma have way different acting
: > skills), I'm inclined to doubt it.
: Not Giles. I saw the voice was dubbed, if it was Tony than it was
: recorded in a sound studio, and he playbacked during the scene.
I think that's standard for any sort of singing dialogue -- even when
an actor does his own singing, it's done separately, so that the sound
is smoother. (Dialogue doesn't matter if there's a tiny pause more or
less; singing, though, has to be consistent.)
Miriam Rocke
Yep. :) Three times, actually -- once doing "Anthem" (Chess) and
"Every Breath You Take", once doing "Sweet Transvestite" (RHS - yum),
and once doing, uh, Anthem, EBYT, ST, "Are We Not Lovers" (his own
song, from a musical he's writing), "I Can't Stand the Rain", "Have a
Little Faith", and "Going Home" (also RHS, also yum). And I'd gladly
pay to hear him sing again. *grin*
Mattia Valente
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> : recorded in a sound studio, and he playbacked during the scene.
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> I think that's standard for any sort of singing dialogue -- even when
> an actor does his own singing, it's done separately, so that the sound
> is smoother. (Dialogue doesn't matter if there's a tiny pause more or
> less; singing, though, has to be consistent.)
I'd guess so..recording vocals is a whole different ball game from
recording the spoken word. Plus, you can more easily do several takes :)
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Joost Nagtegaal
The Buffyguide (www.buffyguide.com) came up with this perfectly
sound explanation:
"This episode shares a title with the children's book Where the
Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak. It is about a young boy named
Max who gets sent to his room without supper and imagines that his
room turns into a magical forest inhabited by monsters which take
him to be their king."
(c) Buffyguide.com
Hence the frathouse turning into a jungle.
JN
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> I found Spike quite funny. While Anya screwed up the fighting scene with
> Xander. And I'm not gonna say anything about Willow since Buffy can
> simply say she'll get horny and will fuck for the rest of the episode
> while Willow can't even touch her girlfriend./
Maybe that's just the point the writers want to get through. A critique on
the hypocritical network standards. Which is an ok thing to do. But why
waste an entire episode on it?
/ They are walking on eggs
> and it's so obvious it's starting to annoy me. They should have made
> this a TV Movie episode and air it at a later time so that Willow can
> have her first kiss, get really horny too and have some funny Willow
> remarks when sharing the bed with Tara.
When they make an episode like that I kinda wish that Willow and Tara don't
get to speak much. Not much more than "I like my shower hot and steamy" or
"Just leave the light on so I can see you" anyway.
Bye, Patrick
Dennis SCP
> > They should have made this a TV Movie episode and air it at a later time
> > so that Willow can have her first kiss, get really horny too and have
> > some funny Willow remarks when sharing the bed with Tara.
>
> When they make an episode like that I kinda wish that Willow and Tara don't
> get to speak much. Not much more than "I like my shower hot and steamy" or
> "Just leave the light on so I can see you" anyway.
How about
Tara: "I told you we don't need boys."
Willow: "It was great, but I do miss Jonathan."
Tara: "Yeah, Jonathan is... Jonathan." (sighs) "Maybe we could
do a threesome someday, invite Jonathan."
Willow: "Or one of the other boys, ABE is filled with cute boys."
--
groetjes / Dennis
ABE, where the wild things are.
Rob
Joost Nagtegaal <voo...@my-deja.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> sound explanation:
> "This episode shares a title with the children's book Where the
> Wild Things Are by Maurice Sendak. It is about a young boy named
> Max who gets sent to his room without supper and imagines that his
> room turns into a magical forest inhabited by monsters which take
> him to be their king."
> (c) Buffyguide.com
>
> Hence the frathouse turning into a jungle.
>
Aha. Nice to know.
Bye, Rob
Mattia Valente
:o)
Great stuff!
<goes off into dreamland...>
Mattia
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