look who's the big villain in S5
p.lamprou
Mattia Valente
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posts and they become apparent) before posting please!!
Mattia
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Already saw the thing about the thing in question, so didn't get spoiled
any further. This is a question of principles..
Andrea
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Eikel.
Andrea
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Language Tags!
Bye, Patrick
maar je hebt gelijk
Andrea
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Swearing is a universal thing, and thus doesn't need tags.
Andrea :))
P@rick
Now you did it again! Don't you ever learn?
Bye, Patrick
;o)
Andrea
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Sorry hoor.
<ducks>
Andrea :))
P@rick
Je maakt het me wel erg moeilijk zo...
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At least you got that part right.
Bye, Patrick
please begin now niet in een other taal to spreken
wheez50
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> Je maakt het me wel erg moeilijk zo...
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knippen is ook een vak toch?
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> knippen is ook een vak toch?
So I've heard.
Bye, Patrick
who has been snipping al the message references and email adresses
wheez50
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> > > At least you got that part right.
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> > knippen is ook een vak toch?
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> Bye, Patrick
> who has been snipping al the message references and email adresses
[clap-clap-clap]
wheez50 ;-)
Luke Croll
<mae.v...@std.vu.nl> writes
What I don't understand is why you open the message when you are pretty
sure that it is going to be a spoiler. The header says who the big
villain is going to be, so you open the message! Anyway, going into
spoiler space now:
How do you think Dracula is going to work? How are they going to
introduce him? I've seen the promo myself and I thought it was going to
be something like an advert for a new series that they were promoting
alongside Buffy, but it's clear to me that he is the new villain.
I can't quite see how he is going to work in the Buffyverse. Perhaps
he'll have some link to the Master? The title 'Master' suggested that
the Master was the master of vampires, but Dracula is pretty high up in
that hierarchy!
Any opinions?
--
Luke Croll
The alt.books.dean-koontz FAQ is found at:
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george van hal
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> How do you think Dracula is going to work? How are they going to
> introduce him? I've seen the promo myself and I thought it was going
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> be something like an advert for a new series that they were promoting
> alongside Buffy, but it's clear to me that he is the new villain.
Yep. Ever since seeing the promo I've been more than a bit woried about
the whole Dracula thing. I mean they said the new villain would be
pretty all evil and all powerfull and that sounded really good. But I
mean *dracula*. Come on!.I'm really sort of thinking this could be a
red haring. Joss has never revealed stuff like this up front. Of
course, after word getting out about Doyle's death he sorta said he
wouldn't try keeping things secret anymore....
> I can't quite see how he is going to work in the Buffyverse. Perhaps
> he'll have some link to the Master? The title 'Master' suggested that
> the Master was the master of vampires, but Dracula is pretty high up
in that hierarchy!
Yep. Agreeing there. I mean we got the Master and he was suposed to be
a pretty ancient all powerfull vamp. Of course we could have an older
vamp. Also it *could* work. I mean if they find a vampire thats so old
and and evil that the dracula myths evolved around his actions, than it
could work. But if they get the movie dracula in there, and use the
same name and all it could get extremly cheesy extremly fast......
So I'm still really sort of woried and hoping it's either a red hering
(Joss has been known to be very evil) or that they'll handle it
responsibly. *crosses fingers*
See Ya,
George
Woried....
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Mattia Valente
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> Yep. Ever since seeing the promo I've been more than a bit woried about
> the whole Dracula thing. I mean they said the new villain would be
> pretty all evil and all powerfull and that sounded really good. But I
> mean *dracula*. Come on!.I'm really sort of thinking this could be a
I'm kind of very sceptic as well. Several things: other word on the
street was that the big villain would be BIG, like TPTB big or
something, and somehow, Vald Dracul doesn't really fit that for me. Oh,
and they said coming in September, when the show ususally starts airing
in october (right?)
> red haring. Joss has never revealed stuff like this up front. Of
> course, after word getting out about Doyle's death he sorta said he
> wouldn't try keeping things secret anymore....
Hmmm..
Oh, and its herring, BTW.
<ducks>
> Yep. Agreeing there. I mean we got the Master and he was suposed to be
> a pretty ancient all powerfull vamp. Of course we could have an older
> vamp. Also it *could* work. I mean if they find a vampire thats so old
> and and evil that the dracula myths evolved around his actions, than it
> could work. But if they get the movie dracula in there, and use the
> same name and all it could get extremly cheesy extremly fast......
It could indeed. Or it could be really good. Joss has said (or someone)
that there will be more vampires again (not very many in S4, really.
This far, at least..) so that could be a pointer into the 'its real'
category. Anyway, I'm gonna just trust Joss with this one...I'm more
interested in what those other odd storylines will give, to be honest.
> So I'm still really sort of woried and hoping it's either a red hering
> (Joss has been known to be very evil) or that they'll handle it
> responsibly. *crosses fingers*
Come on! Where's your faith? In Joss we Trust, remember?
;-)
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
george van hal
Mattia Valente <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
> george van hal wrote:
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a first ;-)
Well, it *could* mean our famous vampiric friend. I mean, in the
monsters guide Joss did say something along these lines (okay so I'm
quoting ;-)):
<quote from the monster book:>
Given Wehdon's history of vampires, and the manner in which the first
vampire was created, one is forced to wonder if the very first vampire
created is still alive.
"Good question," he responds, "I'm not ruling it out"
Now that *could* be a reference to our friend dracul. Not saying it is,
but Joss en co. could very well create a story in which the first
vampire ever created (who turns out to be the same vamp around whom the
dracula myth was created) plays a part. Such a vamp would be very
powerfull, if you ask me, so that *could* happen. Right?
Oh,
> and they said coming in September, when the show ususally starts
airing
> in october (right?)
Hmm. Think you might be right there. Anyone have an airing schedule
ready??
> > red haring. Joss has never revealed stuff like this up front. Of
> > course, after word getting out about Doyle's death he sorta said he
> > wouldn't try keeping things secret anymore....
>
> Hmmm..
>
> Oh, and its herring, BTW.
>
> <ducks>
<sigh>
> > Yep. Agreeing there. I mean we got the Master and he was suposed to
be
> > a pretty ancient all powerfull vamp. Of course we could have an
older
> > vamp. Also it *could* work. I mean if they find a vampire thats so
old
> > and and evil that the dracula myths evolved around his actions,
than it
> > could work. But if they get the movie dracula in there, and use the
> > same name and all it could get extremly cheesy extremly fast......
>
> It could indeed. Or it could be really good. Joss has said (or
someone)
> that there will be more vampires again (not very many in S4, really.
> This far, at least..) so that could be a pointer into the 'its real'
> category.
Yup
Anyway, I'm gonna just trust Joss with this one...I'm more
> interested in what those other odd storylines will give, to be honest.
Yep. Those seem interesting as well. But the Dracula storyline could
ruin the rest. Or it could lift the entire season. I mean, I'm really a
sucker for the Buffy mythology as well, so more vamps would be very
very good as well.......
> > So I'm still really sort of woried and hoping it's either a red
hering
> > (Joss has been known to be very evil) or that they'll handle it
> > responsibly. *crosses fingers*
>
> Come on! Where's your faith? In Joss we Trust, remember?
Whoops. Yes. Almost forgot ;-)
See Ya,
George
Mattia's God [tm] (Yep, still not tired of that one. Not sure if I ever
*will* get tired with it...)
Miriam Rocke
: In article <39A513AD...@std.vu.nl>,
: > and they said coming in September, when the show ususally starts
: airing
: > in october (right?)
:
: Hmm. Think you might be right there. Anyone have an airing schedule
: ready??
Actually, although the original start date was in October, they've
moved it up a week to September, um...26th, I think...to coincide with
the Olympics. Which is either really stupid or really smart, and I'm
not sure which.
I, of course, am going to be watching Buffy; partly 'cause it's Buffy,
and partly because I hate American coverage of the Olympics. (Olympic
coverage should be "[event] This is the winner, yay. [next event]
This is the winner, yay. [etc]". American Olympic coverage tends to
be "[event] An American won, yay. And now we're going to cut to a
Dramatic and Touching Story of some American athlete's life. And now
we go back to the games, and there was an incredible move there but it
wasn't by an American so we're not going to show you.")
Mir
--
Miriam Rocke "Just so we're clear, you guys
mrr...@ucdavis.edu know you're nuts, right?"
http://handel.cipic.ucdavis.edu/~mrrocke/ --BtVS, "Gingerbread"
george van hal
I'm going with really stupid there. I mean the olympics are more than
bound to atrackt a lot of viewers. Noe if all the Buffy viewers didn't
like sports....
Of course the fans'll tune in, but the casual viewers. Me says that is
a mistake.....
Anyways this seems again to point at the treu column. Hmm...
me = woried.....
> I, of course, am going to be watching Buffy; partly 'cause it's Buffy,
> and partly because I hate American coverage of the Olympics. (Olympic
> coverage should be "[event] This is the winner, yay. [next event]
> This is the winner, yay. [etc]". American Olympic coverage tends to
> be "[event] An American won, yay. And now we're going to cut to a
> Dramatic and Touching Story of some American athlete's life. And now
> we go back to the games, and there was an incredible move there but it
> wasn't by an American so we're not going to show you.")
Ah, yes. The true nationalistic style of coverage. I guess dutch tv
would do the same sort of thing, if they could. But I'm guessing we
dont win enough events to do just that ;-) Also, americans are usually
more weird (no offense of course ;-))....
See Ya,
George
Mattia Valente
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> > I'm kind of very sceptic as well. Several things: other word on the
> > street was that the big villain would be BIG, like TPTB big or
> > something, and somehow, Vald Dracul doesn't really fit that for me.
>
> Well, it *could* mean our famous vampiric friend. I mean, in the
> monsters guide Joss did say something along these lines (okay so I'm
> quoting ;-)):
It could, I'm just remaining very very sceptical about it all.
Optimistic, but a sceptic.
> <quote from the monster book:>
> Given Wehdon's history of vampires, and the manner in which the first
> vampire was created, one is forced to wonder if the very first vampire
> created is still alive.
> "Good question," he responds, "I'm not ruling it out"
Interesting..now, If I had cash, I might be tempted to buy the book (but
its full of spoilers, so I'll wait anyway..he said whilst posting in a
S5 spoilers thread...)
> Now that *could* be a reference to our friend dracul. Not saying it is,
> but Joss en co. could very well create a story in which the first
> vampire ever created (who turns out to be the same vamp around whom the
> dracula myth was created) plays a part. Such a vamp would be very
> powerfull, if you ask me, so that *could* happen. Right?
Hmmm...we sort of KNOW how the first vamp was created, form way back in
S1, remember? From when the demons rules the earth...heck, I'll go get
the quote:
This world is older than any of you know. Contrary to popular
mythology, it did not begin as a paradise. For untold eons demons walked
the Earth. They made it their home, their... their Hell. But in time
they lost their purchase on this reality. The way was made for mortal
animals, for, for man. All that remains of the old ones are vestiges,
certain magicks, certain creatures...
<SNIP>
The books tell the last demon to leave this reality fed off a
human, mixed their blood. He was a human form possessed, infected by the
demon's soul. He bit another, and another, and so they walk the Earth,
feeding... Killing some, mixing their blood with others to make more of
their kind. Waiting for the animals to die out, and the old ones to
return.
--Giles, The Harvest.
Soo...if Dracula was around back then, he would be really really really
powerful. That's a theory that sounds plausible as far as powers go.
Compared to the ancient vamp, the Master was probably a
toddler..interesting. I'm kinda starting to like this...
> > It could indeed. Or it could be really good. Joss has said (or someone)
> > that there will be more vampires again (not very many in S4, really.
> > This far, at least..) so that could be a pointer into the 'its real'
> > category.
>
> Yup
Right.
> > Anyway, I'm gonna just trust Joss with this one...I'm more
> > interested in what those other odd storylines will give, to be honest.
>
> Yep. Those seem interesting as well. But the Dracula storyline could
> ruin the rest. Or it could lift the entire season. I mean, I'm really a
> sucker for the Buffy mythology as well, so more vamps would be very
> very good as well.......
I *LOVE* mythology...
> > Come on! Where's your faith? In Joss we Trust, remember?
>
> Whoops. Yes. Almost forgot ;-)
>
> See Ya,
> George
> Mattia's God [tm] (Yep, still not tired of that one. Not sure if I ever
> *will* get tired with it...)
Grrrr..I'll have to make sure you do get tired of it. It kind of annoys
me, you see..
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
george van hal
Sceptic, how?
> > <quote from the monster book:>
> > Given Wehdon's history of vampires, and the manner in which the
first
> > vampire was created, one is forced to wonder if the very first
vampire
> > created is still alive.
> > "Good question," he responds, "I'm not ruling it out"
>
> Interesting..now, If I had cash, I might be tempted to buy the book
(but
> its full of spoilers, so I'll wait anyway..he said whilst posting in a
> S5 spoilers thread...)
The books really a lot of fun to read. Even though theres not much of
new info in it.....
> > Now that *could* be a reference to our friend dracul. Not saying it
is,
> > but Joss en co. could very well create a story in which the first
> > vampire ever created (who turns out to be the same vamp around whom
the
> > dracula myth was created) plays a part. Such a vamp would be very
> > powerfull, if you ask me, so that *could* happen. Right?
<SNIP first vamp>
> > Soo...if Dracula was around back then, he would be really really
really
> powerful. That's a theory that sounds plausible as far as powers go.
> Compared to the ancient vamp, the Master was probably a
> toddler..interesting. I'm kinda starting to like this...
Yup. Me too. Of course, we're probably waaaaay off. But its certainly
fun to speculate. Of course it could all be a small joke and there
could be a "dracula" fan out there immitating his style thats simply a
monster of the week that gets dealt with in the season opener....
<SNIP>
> > Yep. Those seem interesting as well. But the Dracula storyline could
> > ruin the rest. Or it could lift the entire season. I mean, I'm
really a
> > sucker for the Buffy mythology as well, so more vamps would be very
> > very good as well.......
>
> I *LOVE* mythology...
Well, we agree there than.....
Mattia Valente
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> Mattia Valente <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote:
> > george van hal wrote:
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> Sceptic, how?
What do you mean? I'm sceptic about how this whole Dracula thing will
turn out, but an optimist because I believe it should all work out fine.
> > its full of spoilers, so I'll wait anyway..he said whilst posting in a
> > S5 spoilers thread...)
>
> The books really a lot of fun to read. Even though theres not much of
> new info in it.....
Like the watchers guide has anything you didn't already know, for that
matter. I mean, us diehard fan people, what with the transcripts and
all, we're major smartasses!
> > > Soo...if Dracula was around back then, he would be really really really
> > powerful. That's a theory that sounds plausible as far as powers go.
> > Compared to the ancient vamp, the Master was probably a
> > toddler..interesting. I'm kinda starting to like this...
>
> Yup. Me too. Of course, we're probably waaaaay off. But its certainly
Of course. Then again, maybe not ;-)
> fun to speculate. Of course it could all be a small joke and there
> could be a "dracula" fan out there immitating his style thats simply a
> monster of the week that gets dealt with in the season opener....
A possibility. It would fit Joss' supposedly quirky sense of humor
though. I mean, the man thinks cheese is funny! :-))
> > I *LOVE* mythology...
>
> Well, we agree there than.....
Yay!
Mattia
ReplyMeister[tm]
YESSS!!!! No stupid title at the end of gvh's post! OK, so he probably
just forgot, but still ;-)
george van hal
Well I was wondering if you meant sceptic about how it would turn out
or about if it would happen at all.....
> > > its full of spoilers, so I'll wait anyway..he said whilst posting
in a
> > > S5 spoilers thread...)
> >
> > The books really a lot of fun to read. Even though theres not much
of
> > new info in it.....
>
> Like the watchers guide has anything you didn't already know, for that
> matter. I mean, us diehard fan people, what with the transcripts and
> all, we're major smartasses!
Ok, I'll grant you that ;-)
<SNIP>
> Mattia
> ReplyMeister[tm]
> YESSS!!!! No stupid title at the end of gvh's post! OK, so he probably
> just forgot, but still ;-)
You really shouldn't have said that...
See Ya,
George
Mattia's God [tm] (<evil> Muahahahah </evil>)