VCD, how to?
Dieter Schmidt
A while ago I downloaded "once more with feeling" (took me 15 (!) hours on
ISDN) I got all the files and the MPEG plays fine. But I'd very much like to
burn it on a VCD and watch it on my (stand-alone) DVD player (Is VCD
compatible according to documentation)
I'm a total newbie at this stuff, but I gave it a try. Tried burning it with
my WinonCD program, didn't work. I downloaded a trial-version of Nero,
didn't work. In both cases the DVD player doesn't recognise the disc at all.
(I sorta got the "how-to" from vcdhelp.com, doesn't work unfortunately)
Obviously I'm doing something wrong, but I really don't know where to start
in finding the problem.
It would be great if you guys could give me some pointers (which programs do
you use, maybe a usefull help-site).
Here is the relevant part of the readme (a lot of you probably downloaded
the same one :)
Captured by: Grace [ ] VHS
Format: Film Video CD spec Audio codec: MPEG Layer 2
Video resolution: 352X240X23.976 Audio resolution:
44.1kHz/16 bit stereo
Video bitrate: 1150kbps Audio bitrate: 224kbps
Info:
Hardware: 450MHz PIII (for capping)
: 1GHz PIII (for encoding)
: Creative Labs SBLive! MP3+ 5.1 (for capping)
: Creative Labs SBLive! MP3 (for encoding)
: ATI All-In-Wonder 128 (32MB) (for capping)
Capping: 352x480, 29.97fps, HuffyUV compression (using avi_io)
Editing: Cropping, Resize, Sharpen, IVTC (using aviutl and
VirtualDub v.1.4d)
Audio: Normalize, Noise reduction (using CoolEdit 2000)
Encoding: Film Video CD specs (using Panasonic v.2.51)
Hope you can help,
Dieter
Mattia Valente
> To the regular VCD burners,
..plenty of those around.
> A while ago I downloaded "once more with feeling" (took me 15 (!) hours on
> ISDN) I got all the files and the MPEG plays fine. But I'd very much like to
> burn it on a VCD and watch it on my (stand-alone) DVD player (Is VCD
> compatible according to documentation)
Right. With you so far.
> I'm a total newbie at this stuff, but I gave it a try. Tried burning it with
> my WinonCD program, didn't work. I downloaded a trial-version of Nero,
> didn't work. In both cases the DVD player doesn't recognise the disc at all.
> (I sorta got the "how-to" from vcdhelp.com, doesn't work unfortunately)
> Obviously I'm doing something wrong, but I really don't know where to start
> in finding the problem.
Right, I'm going to assume you made a proper VCD with Nero (I mean, not
too hard: select 'VCD' from the list, drag MPEG file to bottom left
large window, Nero checks it, says it's OK, hit burn, done..)
> It would be great if you guys could give me some pointers (which programs do
> you use, maybe a usefull help-site).
http://www.vcdhelp.com is the best site for VCD/SVCD recoding and
whatnot info. All you need is Nero, though. That's what I use, no
problems.
What I think may be the problem, unfortunately, is your standalone DVD
player.
Some players (Pioneers, cheap players) play most anything you throw at
them, standard (S)VCD or not, on whatever media. However, some players,
older Sony's among them (off the top of my head, hearsay and all that..)
don't like reading CD-R(W) media. While they'll play pre-recorded VCDs
(apparently they exist. I've never seen any..) just fine, home grown
stuff is more problematic. Some players will, for example, only play
certain brands of discs, or only RW discs. All very weird and strange,
but there you go.
More info about the issue:
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#2.4.3
Look up your player and check compatibility issue:
http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdlist/dvdplayers.html
> Here is the relevant part of the readme (a lot of you probably downloaded
> the same one :)
Actually, I only have an alternate audio track for this one (because
it's a mono cap. Now Grace has pleasant stereo sound, but it was mono at
this point in time.) But hey..
> Hope you can help,
Hope I did..
Mattia
--
"My beagle went swimming today and now he's typing on my keyboard with
his ample nose. Oh, and he's the bestest handsomeest beagle EVER."
--Tim Minear, Salon.com, May 2001
Dieter Schmidt
"Mattia Valente" <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote in message
news:3C06627D...@std.vu.nl...
> Right, I'm going to assume you made a proper VCD with Nero (I mean, not
> too hard: select 'VCD' from the list, drag MPEG file to bottom left
> large window, Nero checks it, says it's OK, hit burn, done..)
Yep, pretty much exactly the way I did it
> What I think may be the problem, unfortunately, is your standalone DVD
> player.
I'm affraid you're right :(
> Some players (Pioneers, cheap players) play most anything you throw at
> them, standard (S)VCD or not, on whatever media. However, some players,
> older Sony's among them (off the top of my head, hearsay and all that..)
> don't like reading CD-R(W) media. While they'll play pre-recorded VCDs
> (apparently they exist. I've never seen any..) just fine, home grown
> stuff is more problematic. Some players will, for example, only play
> certain brands of discs, or only RW discs. All very weird and strange,
> but there you go.
> Look up your player and check compatibility issue:
> http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdlist/dvdplayers.html
I did (Sony DVP-S535D). Most of the comments seem to reflect what you said
before. CD-R rarely works. CD-RW has more succes, although some people
needed very specific brands of discs (forgot the name. ) I tried the whole
thing on a CD-R. Tomorrow I'll trie it again on CD-RW, hope it'll make the
difference. (if you have any pointers on which discs are considered very
good for this type of stuff, feel free :)
> > Hope you can help,
>
> Hope I did..
You sure did, thanks :)
Dieter
Mattia Valente
> > player.
>
> I'm affraid you're right :(
Bah...
> > Some players (Pioneers, cheap players) play most anything you throw at
> > them, standard (S)VCD or not, on whatever media. However, some players,
> > older Sony's among them (off the top of my head, hearsay and all that..)
> > don't like reading CD-R(W) media. While they'll play pre-recorded VCDs
> > (apparently they exist. I've never seen any..) just fine, home grown
> > stuff is more problematic. Some players will, for example, only play
> > certain brands of discs, or only RW discs. All very weird and strange,
> > but there you go.
> > Look up your player and check compatibility issue:
> > http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvdlist/dvdplayers.html
>
> I did (Sony DVP-S535D). Most of the comments seem to reflect what you said
> before. CD-R rarely works. CD-RW has more succes, although some people
> needed very specific brands of discs (forgot the name. ) I tried the whole
> thing on a CD-R. Tomorrow I'll trie it again on CD-RW, hope it'll make the
> difference. (if you have any pointers on which discs are considered very
> good for this type of stuff, feel free :)
Well, just reading the comments:
CD-RW: Plays everything I've tried: Verbatim DataLifePlus CD-RW 650 MB
and 700 MB at EUR 2,- / Kodak CD-RW 650 MB at EUR 1,80 / Maxell CD-RW /
Nashua CD-RW 700 MB / That's Write CD-RW!. (1 Euro = USD 0,90)
Differring opinions on whether the disc needs to be new or not, whether
quick erase is enough or not. Lower write speeds may improve things
(there's mention to to burn SVCDs faster than 2x, but since it's RW, and
VCD, if you've got a fast writer, burn at max and test it.)
CD-R: 'Vivastar' seems to work. Some weird cheap brand. Some Princo.
> > > Hope you can help,
> >
> > Hope I did..
>
> You sure did, thanks :)
Hope it works out :-)
Dieter Schmidt
"Mattia Valente" <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote > Well, just reading the
comments:
>
> CD-RW: Plays everything I've tried: Verbatim DataLifePlus CD-RW 650 MB
> and 700 MB at EUR 2,- / Kodak CD-RW 650 MB at EUR 1,80 / Maxell CD-RW /
> Nashua CD-RW 700 MB / That's Write CD-RW!. (1 Euro = USD 0,90)
Unbelievable! I still had one of those crappy That's Write-cd's. Did it all
again and YAY! It worked like a charm :D
Only one thing, the last 10 minutes of the ep are plagued by occasional
jerks and other annoying disruptions in the picture. I burned it again on
yet another rewritable I had lying around (amazing what you find if you
really look), and the same disruptions in (I guess) the same places.
Has anybody else had this problem with this ep?
Note: both tries were cd's that already had files on them (so they're
deleted and re-recorded), maybe that could have something to do with it?
Anyway, still very happy,
Dieter
(and say a little prayer for me that KPN keeps their promise and hooks me up
on ADSL in february, 15 hour downloads will then hopefully be a thing of the
past)