a.b.e. FAQ
george van hal
was last posted) here's the unfinished a.b.e. FAQ. If you feel
somethings missing or wrong just reply to this mail, tell me and I'll
add it to the faq a.s.a.p. :-) Still looking for a good french
translation as well btw.....
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ALT.BUFFY.EUROPE FAQ - UNFINISHED
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This FAQ isn't finished yet.....its a guideline on how to post messages
on
the alt.buffy.europe newsgroup. If anyone has anything to add to this
FAQ or
if anyone wants to translate it into another language please reply to
this post.
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1) Help people are telling me I posted a spoiler to the group. But this
episode has
allready aired....
A: alt.buffy.europe is a place for *all* european fans to interact.
These people
are all in different points in the show. Therefore discussing something
that may
have allready been shown where you are, may spoil a whole season or
worse for
other people on the list.
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2) Q :Can I post spoilers to the group.
A: Yes you can. But there are a few rules you must follow to keep your
fellow
fans from reading things they dont want to.......
Because of the different people from different countries just stating
spoiler in
your message header isnt enough. You must therefore allways make clear
in your
header what episode or season you're discussing and make sure that your
header
isn't spoilerish. For instance a good header for discussion about
passion would
be :
(contains spoilers for passion) wow what a good ep!!
Furthermore *allways* use spoiler spaces for episode specific or other
spoilerish discussion. Just a warning in the header isn't enough!
A good example of a spoiler space is:
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3) I'm new to the group and people seem to ignore my posts. What can I
do?
A: You can't do a whole lot about something like that. People are free
to
reply (or refrain from replying) to any post. You might try to make your
posts
worth replying. Discussion about the latest episodes are allways
welcomed so
try that. Read the topics being discussed in the group at the moment and
try
replying to one of those. There's not much more you can do.
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4) Can I post in my own language? I'm not that good with english.....
A: of course! Just be sure to include a [language] part in your header
so people
who don't understand that language don't have to bother with a thread
they
can't understand.
for instance: if your posting a message in french you include a
[francais/french] part in your message header.
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5) I want to reply to a thread in a different language, can I?
A: In short, no. If you want to reply to a thread in a different
language either
start a new thread or don't reply.
The exception to this rule (isn't there allways at least one <g> ?) is
that someone
may allways reply to someone breaking the guidelines in this FAQ in an
obviously uninformed way to point out that fact to them. We've had
people
breaking the language warning guideline in the past. People than
replied to
them to point out that fact. Thats perfectly o.k.
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6) Can I post an off topic message?
A: purely off topic messages like "hey do all you guys feel that ping
pong balls
should be bigger" (or something similar) will get ingnored and aren't
allowed.....
If a thread strays off topic, its ok but try to get it back on topic or
continue the
topic outside the newsgroup....of course if a topic is considered good
fun by most
people on group theres no trouble in a bit off topicness. Just use your
good
judgement and consider that an on topic post is more likely to get an
awnser
than an off topic one...
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7) Are there any dont's which will get me in trouble on a.b.e?
A: Apart from the things stated as dont's above, not really. In general
things like
"sarah michelle gellar is só hot" or "do you guys have any nude pics of
buffy"
won't earn you much karma points with the group regulars , so try to
refrain
from those....
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8) I have buffy things for sale, can I advertise on the group?
A: in short, no...... people seeking to trade stuff or who need stuff
are allowed but
try to keep it to a minimume, this isnt a trade group.
People seeking to make profit by selling buffy things including things
like
bootleged copies of episodes arent welcome....
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9) Any other things I should know before posting
A: Not really.....now go on and post allready <g>!!!!
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Fuzzy
george van hal wrote in message <38FB8847...@wxs.nl>...
>Due to popular demand (and the enormous increase of posters since this
>was last posted) here's the unfinished a.b.e. FAQ. If you feel
>somethings missing or wrong just reply to this mail, tell me and I'll
>add it to the faq a.s.a.p. :-) Still looking for a good french
>translation as well btw.....
>
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>ALT.BUFFY.EUROPE FAQ - UNFINISHED
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>
>This FAQ isn't finished yet.....its a guideline on how to post messages
>on
>the alt.buffy.europe newsgroup. If anyone has anything to add to this
>FAQ or
>if anyone wants to translate it into another language please reply to
>this post.
>
How about putting "Full of Grace" in the FAQ ?
<Snip FAQ, itself>
Mattia Valente
words though (what the hell is FAQ in french?) I also need the french
name of one of the episodes for question 2...left some english words in
where I couldn't think of an appropriate french word..Other than that,
how about a Q&A pertaining to discussions of Angel?
Hope this helps,
Mattia
PS: I can try my hand at a german one if you'd like ;-)
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ALT.BUFFY.EUROPE FAQ - FRANCAIS
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Ce FAQ??? n'est pas completement fini. C'est un guide pour ceux qui
veulent poster des messages sur le newgroup alt.buffy.europe. Si quelqun
a qulque chose a ajouter ou a des suggestions, qu'il repond a ce
message.
Definition: Spoiler: Toute information sur un episode qui n'a pas ete
diffuse, que ce soit sur les personnages ou sur l'histoure, ext un
Spoiler. Comme ce groupe est la pour tous les telespectateur europeens,
ceci peut s'appliquer sur presque tous les episodes.
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1)
Q: A L'aide! Les gens sont en train de me dire que j'ai poste un
Spoiler, mais l'episode en question a deja ete diffusee!
R: alt.buffy.europe est, comme son nom l'indique, un group destine a
tous les telespectateurs europeens. Chaque pays diffuse la serie a son
propre rythme, alors il est fort possible q'un episode deja diffuse dans
un pays ne sera pas diffusee avant un an ou plus dans l'autre. Alors le
fait d'en discuter peut ruiner un episode ou toute une saison pour ceux
qui ne l'ont pas encore vus!
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2)
Q :Je peux poster des Spoilers?
R: Oui, (sinon ca cerait presque impossible de poster des messages ici
;-) mais il y a des regles pour faire en sorte que les gens ne lisent
pas des choses qu'ils ne veulent pas savoir (des spoilers)
Il n'est donc pas assez de simpliment indiquer qu'il y q un spoiler dans
ton message. Il faut preciser au minimum l'episode et si possible aussi
la saison qui ca etre discute. Par exemple, un header d'un message (le
titre) avec des spoiler pour l'episode (<ep name in french>) de la
premiere saison serait:
[FRENCH/FRANCAIS] Episode Genial! (Spoilers pour <Ep name in French>
S1/Saison 1)
Plus improtant encore, il est *imperatif* d'inserer du 'spoiler space'
pour toute information qui pourrait etre un spoiler! Metre un
avertissment dans le header n'est pas assez! Un bon spoiler space est
constitue de plusieres linges sans texte (assez pour que le message en
dessous ne soit pas immediatement lisible) avec une indication de ce qui
va suivre. Un exemple:
Spoiler pour episode <????> S1
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3)
Q: Je suis nouveau ici et les gens ne repondent pas a mes posts. Que est
ce que je peut faire?
R: Pas grande chose, pur etre honnet. Les gens son libre a repondre (ou
a ne pas le faire) a chaque post. Il faut essayer d'ecrire quelquechose
d'interresant. Une discussion a propos d'un episode qui a tout juste ete
diffuse est toujours tres apprecie, alors essaye ca pour commencer.
Sinon, va lire les posts qui se developpent dans le newgroup et repond a
quelques message. Il n'y a pas vraiment d'autres solutions.
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4)
Q: Je peux poster dans ma propre langue (comme le francais)? Mon anglais
n'est pas vraiment a la hauteur...
R: Bien sur! Mais parce que la langue par defaut de ce groupe est
l'anglais, il faut ajouter un balise [LANGUE DU POST] dans le header de
ton message, comme ca les gens qui ne comprennent pas cette langue ne
vont pas gacher leur temps le lire.
Par exemple: Un message en francais doit inclure une balise [FRENCH] ou
[FRANCAIS] dans le header du message
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5)
Q: Je veut repondre a un thread dans une autre langue, c'est permis?
R: En principe, non. Si tu veux y repondre dans une langue differente a
celle dans lequel il est ecrit, commence un nouveau thread ou ne repond
pas. La seule exception a cette regle est qu'on peut toujours repondre a
quelqun qui ne suit pas les regles du groupe (comme quelqun qui
n'utilise pas une balise [FRENCH] dans un message ecrit en francais..)
Les gens peuvent leur indiquer les regles, c'est parfaitment normal.
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6)
Q: Je peut poster un message 'Off-Topic'?
R: Les messages off-topic, c'est a dire les message qui n'ont rien a
voir avec les series 'Buffy contre les Vampires' ou 'Angel' ne sont pas
permis (et en plus, personne ne va y repondre..)
Si un thread devient off-topic, ce n'est generalement pas grave, mais
c'est mieux si ca n'arrive pas trop....d'autre part, quelque message off
topic peut etre amusant, alors ca n'est pas trop grave si ca arrive de
temps en temp.
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7)
Q: Il y a d'autres choses qui ne sont pas permis dans a.b.e?
R: Mise apart les chose deja mentiones, pas vraiment. En general des
message comme "Sarah Michelle Gellar est super sexy" ou "vous avez des
photos de Buffy nue?" (pour etre clair: ils n'exsitent pas, est meme si
c'etait le cas, ce groupe n'est pas l'endroit pour poster ce genre de
message.) ne vont pas etre tres apprecies par les gens, alors essaye de
ne pas poster des messages de ce genre....mais si ti post que Willow est
la femme la plus sexy au monde, ca semble gener beaucoup moins de monde
;-)
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8)
Q: J'ai des articles Buffy a vendre, je peut le faire ici?
R: En principe, non...des messages de gens qui veulent echanger des
choses ou qui cherchent quelquechose son't permis, mais devraient etre
tenue au minimum, il y a d'autres groupes pours ca. Les gens essayant de
tirer profit de la vente de videocasstes illegales et les choses de ce
genre ne sont pas du tout apprecies.
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9)
Q: Est ce-qu'il y a d'autres choses que je doit savoir avant de
participer?
R: Pas vraiment....alors vas poster des messages!
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P@rick
[1] Define what is considered a spoiler. The following is taken from the
alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer FAQ:
What is a spoiler?
A spoiler is information about the content of an episode. Some
people don't want to hear ahead of time what's going to happen during an
episode, because it will spoil the episode's impact.
Spoilers can be major, revealing important plot points or major
changes in characters or situations, or minor, just giving away some minor
detail about the episode. (A major spoiler for the Star Wars trilogy
would be that Darth Vader is Luke's father. A minor spoiler would be that
the rebels are hiding out on an ice planet at the start of the second
movie.)
[2] Is it possible to give an indication which seasons / episodes have been
aired in Europe?
[3] In addition to 2):
Use a minimum of 25 lines in your spoilerspace. Blank lines are no good,
because some newsreaders delete them.
[4] In addition to 7):
Do not feed the Trolls. It just makes things worse. If you want to do
something, just killfile them.
Try not flame other people. Be tolerant of what other people have to say.
And no, not everyone is out to get you. So don't jump into defense mode too
soon. -
Trim out the parts of a post you are responding to that are not
immediately relevant to your response. For instance, never, ever, quote
all 471 lines of a posting to add a two line response (taken from
alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer FAQ)
Basically, please put your response to someone else's post at
the *end* of the parts of the original that you quote. This is for two
reasons - one, it makes things a LOT easier to read, and two, it
prevents the accidental removal of the all important spoiler space. (taken
from uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer FAQ)
Don't post binaries. This is a non-binary newsgroup. You can post a link to
websites containing relevant articles, pictures, movies or soundfiles.
If you want to post binaries, do it in the
alt.binaries.multimedia.buffy-v-slayer newsgroup.
Well, that's it (for now... ;o)
Bye, Patrick
[relevant parts of FAQ below]
P@rick
How about naming all episodes and seasons? So that people can look up what
the episode they are talking about is called? The following list is from
alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer:
***Buffy***
Season One:
Welcome to the Hellmouth (WTTH) & The Harvest (2 hour premiere)
The Witch
Teacher's Pet (TP)
Never kill a Boy on the First Date (NKABOTFD)
The Pack
Angel
I, Robot, You, Jane (IRYJ)
The Puppet Show (TPS)
Nightmares
Invisible Girl (IG), aka Out of Mind, Out of Sight (OOM,OOS).
Prophecy Girl (PG)
Season Two:
When She was Bad (WSWB)
Some Assembly Required (SAR)
School Hard (SH)
Inca Mummy Girl (IMG)
Reptile Boy (RB)
Halloween
Lie to Me (LTM)
The Dark Age (TDA)
What's My Line (Parts 1) (WML1)
What's My Line (Parts 2) (WML2)
Ted
Bad Eggs
Surprise (Part 1)
Innocence (Part 2)
Phases
Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered (BBB)
Passion
Killed by Death (KBD)
I Only Have Eyes For You (IOHEFY)
Go Fish (GF)
Becoming (Part 1)
Becoming (Part 2)
Season Three:
Anne
Dead Man's Party (DMP)
Faith Hope & Trick (FHT)
Beauty and the Beast (BATB)
Homecoming
Band Candy (BC)
Revelations
Lovers Walk (LW)
The Wish
Amends
Gingerbread
Helpless
The Zeppo
Bad Girls (BG).
Consequences
Dopplegangland (DGL)
Enemies
Earshot
Choices
The Prom
Graduation Part 1
Graduation Part 2
Season Four:
The Freshman
Living Conditions
The Harsh Light Of Day
Fear, Itself
Beer Bad
Wild At Heart
The Initiative
Pangs
Something Blue
Hush
Doomed
A New Man
The I In Team
Goodbye Iowa
This Year's Girl
Superstar
Where the Wild Things Are
Where the heart is
***Angel***
Season One
City Of...
Lonely Hearts
In The Dark
I Fall To Pieces
Rm W /A Vu
Sense & Sensitivity
The Bachelor Party
I Will Remember You
Hero
Parting Gifts
Somnambulist
Expecting
She
I've Got You Under My Skin
The Prodigal
The Ring
george van hal <hal0...@wxs.nl> schreef in berichtnieuws
38FB8847...@wxs.nl...
Jonathan Black
> And another suggestion:
>
> How about naming all episodes and seasons? So that people can look up what
> the episode they are talking about is called? The following list is from
> alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer:
[snip]
It's an FAQ, not an episode guide. IMHO, surely a link to BuffyGuide.com
or whatever would suffice?
--
J o N a T H a N
"I'm a slayer, not a postal worker."
--Buffy `Becoming, Part II'
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Peter Kleiweg
> Trim out the parts of a post you are responding to that are not
> immediately relevant to your response.
[...]
> Basically, please put your response to someone else's post at
> the *end* of the parts of the original that you quote.
Good suggestions. Why don't you follow your own advise?
--
Peter Kleiweg | P e t r o n o m i c o n |
e-mail: invalid -> nl | http://www.let.rug.nl/~kleiweg |
Guardian of Spike's Innocence, and his Dislike of Puppies
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Less than two minutes. Dumb guy. Little bomb. How hard can it be?
-- Xander, The Zeppo
P@rick
Pine.LNX.3.96.100041...@ch.twi.tudelft.nl...
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, P@rick wrote:
>
> > And another suggestion:
> >
> > How about naming all episodes and seasons? So that people can look up
what
> > the episode they are talking about is called? The following list is from
> > alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer:
> [snip]
>
> It's an FAQ, not an episode guide. IMHO, surely a link to BuffyGuide.com
> or whatever would suffice?
>
Yep, that'll do just fine. Maybe some more links to informative sites?
Bye, Patrick
P@rick
Pine.LNX.4.21.00041...@kleigh.nl...
> P@rick skriver...
>
> > Trim out the parts of a post you are responding to that are not
> > immediately relevant to your response.
>
> [...]
>
> > Basically, please put your response to someone else's post at
> > the *end* of the parts of the original that you quote.
>
> Good suggestions. Why don't you follow your own advise?
Ummm.. how did I fail the first one? I left in the parts of the FAQ that I
was responding to. I didn't feel like quoting the entire FAQ.
And for the second one, I didn't think the reading order was important in
this case. But I could be wrong here.
Bye, Patrick
Always willing to learn some more (unless of course you were being
sarcastic, then don't reply and just laugh at my cluelessness :o)
Jonathan Black
> Jonathan Black <jona...@ch.twi.tudelft.nl> schreef in berichtnieuws
> Pine.LNX.3.96.100041...@ch.twi.tudelft.nl...
> > On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, P@rick wrote:
> >
> > > And another suggestion:
> > >
> > > How about naming all episodes and seasons? So that people can look up
> > > what the episode they are talking about is called? The following
> > > list is from alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer:
> > [snip]
> >
> > It's an FAQ, not an episode guide. IMHO, surely a link to BuffyGuide.com
> > or whatever would suffice?
>
> Yep, that'll do just fine. Maybe some more links to informative sites?
For Angel, http://sanctuary.digitalspace.net/ is a good site, unless
anyone knows a better one. Buffyworld.com covers both shows and I'm sure
there are countless others.
Mattia Valente
Possibly most importantly, the transcripts. Great reference guide :-)
http://www.psyche.kn-bremen.de/
IMHO of course...
Mattia
PS: Just got one of the funniest error messages when I tried posting
this one; had been fiddling with my time/date settings, and had left
them on May 29th and I got the following error message:
NNTP ERROR
Article posted in the Future
I kid you not...
Jonathan Black
> > > > It's an FAQ, not an episode guide. IMHO, surely a link to
> > > > BuffyGuide.com or whatever would suffice?
> > >
> > > Yep, that'll do just fine. Maybe some more links to informative sites?
> >
> > For Angel, http://sanctuary.digitalspace.net/ is a good site, unless
> > anyone knows a better one. Buffyworld.com covers both shows and I'm sure
> > there are countless others.
>
> Possibly most importantly, the transcripts. Great reference guide :-)
>
> http://www.psyche.kn-bremen.de/
>
> IMHO of course...
You'll get no argument from me.
> PS: Just got one of the funniest error messages when I tried posting
> this one; had been fiddling with my time/date settings, and had left
> them on May 29th and I got the following error message:
>
> NNTP ERROR
>
> Article posted in the Future
>
> I kid you not...
LOL! Time travel is possible! I knew it!
;-)