Joss Whedon Speaks! (S6, S3 Spoilers)
Niall Harrison
An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, S3 and The Future...
General spoilers for _Buffy_ S6 through present; specific _Angel_ spoilers
up to 3x19. Also the word of Joss as to what next year will be like.
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http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Wanda/Archive2002/020503d.html
[quote]
Buffy Creator Joss Whedon Talks Climaxes, Criticism and Angel's Fate
> Wanda: Sounds like you've been insanely busy with all your projects this
> season. [Buffy producer] Marti Noxon said you're like a pig in poo...
Joss: [Laughs.] Sounds like Marti. And yeah, I am like a pig in poo.
> Has it been hard to be less involved with Buffy?
I haven't been as hands-off as people like to think. This season, I was
there, except when I was shooting the Firefly pilot. But yeah, everything
I saw that I could have made better or had a different vision for, I go,
"Aaaarrgh!" But then, I've always done that.
> This season has been fantastic, as usual, but it has had a darker tone.
> To be honest, some of the episodes depressed the hell out of me.
This is where we wanted to go...into the dark of the woods. But next year
is going to be very different. We're going back to our original mission
statement. Back to the positive view of the joy of female empowerment.
This year was about adult life and relationships--and making really,
really bad decisions. Next year will still be scary and different and
strange, but it will be more of a positive outlook. People will stop
abandoning Dawn. Willow won't be a junky anymore. Buffy won't be dead.
> Your theme for this year was: "Oh, Grow Up." Do you have one for next
> year?
Yes. It's: "Buffy Year One." It's let's get back to the joy of this very
simple concept, that this silly woman no one takes seriously is actually
the most powerful woman in the world.
> How long do you see Buffy lasting? How far have you planned ahead?
We basically plot every year as a natural ending point of the show. I
loathe stories that end in the middle, so we wrap it up at the end of the
year. Every year. So, next season, we've figured out the whole arc--who
the bad guy is, what the general message is. Next year will be the end.
And if there's another season, that will be the end, too.
> What about Angel? Are you worried about it being picked up?
No. The WB will pick it up again. I absolutely think so. We'll be staying
on the WB for at least another year. Obviously, if the WB drops it, we
could do more crossovers. But apart from that, it doesn't really matter.
> Speaking of crossovers, any hope for Buffy and Angel diehards?
What I always say is: Guys, they're on two different networks. There's no
way. Buffy and Angel physically could not exist. If they were on the same
network, we would have done the Buffy-Spike thing anyway. But we probably
would have had a crossover moment when they would go, "You're sleeping
with whom?!" It became difficult in the third year to truly bring change
to Buffy and Angel. People want to watch change. Growth. They want climax.
> And we've certainly gotten "climax" with Buffy and Spike. Let's talk
> about Angel, which has been so great this season. Can you talk about
> the motive for giving him a son?
We wanted to put him in an emotional space. To give him something that is
less about day-to-day living. He needed something to connect to
emotionally. Plus, I just love the idea of this embarrassing effect of a
one-night stand.
> Why did you decide to make Connor grow up at lightning speed?
What are you going to do? Have a baby running around? I don't think so.
There were advantages. He got to have a baby. He got to have his child
taken away. And then he got to have a full-grown son. That's the beauty of
it being a fantasy show.
> Buffy and Angel fans seem to be more critical than ever this season.
> Does that affect you?
It always affects me. At the same time, I need to give them what they
need, not what they want. They need to have their hearts broken. They need
to see change. They hated Oz, and then they hated that he left. These
things are inevitable. If people are freaking out, I'm good. If people are
going, "Hmmm...well, that was fine," I'm fucked.
[/quote]
S7 without junkie-Willow? I'm there. :-)
Niall
--
The city sun sets over me.
Saskia
> An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, S3 and The Future...
Cool!!!
> Next year will still be scary and different and
> strange, but it will be more of a positive outlook.
<Kneels down to Joss>
I am sooooo glad to see this.
> Yes. It's: "Buffy Year One." It's let's get back to the joy of this very
> simple concept, that this silly woman no one takes seriously is actually
> the most powerful woman in the world.
Very cool. I'm happy already.
> > Speaking of crossovers, any hope for Buffy and Angel diehards?
>
> What I always say is: Guys, they're on two different networks. There's no
> way.
On the one hand I think that's a shame, but on the other... the shows seem
to have grown apart. I think it would look very weird to see Buffy on
"Angel" now.
> What are you going to do? Have a baby running around? I don't think so.
Thank you.
> There were advantages. He got to have a baby. He got to have his child
> taken away. And then he got to have a full-grown son. That's the beauty of
> it being a fantasy show.
It's true and from that perspective it's been great. Now kill it. :)
> They hated Oz
Huh?? Who hated Oz??!
Thanks for the paste Niall!
--
Saskia
Ninia
>
> An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, S3 and The Future...
>
> General spoilers for _Buffy_ S6 through present; specific _Angel_ spoilers
> up to 3x19. Also the word of Joss as to what next year will be like.
Oh this is very bad. Because I want to know what next year will be like
on Buffy but I don't want to be spoiled on Angel because I did not see
season 3 yet. What now???
--
Ninia
Ceterum censeo Spike non esse delendum.
Niall Harrison
>> Yes. It's: "Buffy Year One." It's let's get back to the joy of this very
>> simple concept, that this silly woman no one takes seriously is actually
>> the most powerful woman in the world.
>
> Very cool. I'm happy already.
Bear in mind that this time last year he was saying the gang would be
getting back to their original roles...and that has actually happened.
>> They hated Oz
>
> Huh?? Who hated Oz??!
Everyone, when he first appeared. They didn't want Willow with Oz, they
wanted Willow with Xander.
Niall
--
Over my shoulder a piano falls
Crashing to the ground.
Niall Harrison
> An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, S3 and The Future...
> General spoilers for _Buffy_ S6 through present; specific _Angel_ spoilers
> up to 3x19. Also the word of Joss as to what next year will be like.
For the benefit of those who haven't seen S3 _Angel_, here's a version
with the spoilers excised.
> http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Wanda/Archive2002/020503d.html
> [quote]
[spoiler snipped]
>> Buffy and Angel fans seem to be more critical than ever this season.
>> Does that affect you?
> It always affects me. At the same time, I need to give them what they
> need, not what they want. They need to have their hearts broken. They need
> to see change. They hated Oz, and then they hated that he left. These
> things are inevitable. If people are freaking out, I'm good. If people are
> going, "Hmmm...well, that was fine," I'm fucked.
> [/quote]
> S7 without junkie-Willow? I'm there. :-)
> Niall
> --
> The city sun sets over me.
--
--
Water - the nietzchian drink!
Tafka
alt.buffy.europe said:
>Niall Harrison zei:
>>
>> An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, S3 and The Future...
>>
>> General spoilers for _Buffy_ S6 through present; specific _Angel_ spoilers
>> up to 3x19. Also the word of Joss as to what next year will be like.
>
>Oh this is very bad. Because I want to know what next year will be like
>on Buffy but I don't want to be spoiled on Angel because I did not see
>season 3 yet. What now???
Copy & pasted from Niall's post- taking out Angel spoilers:
An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, and The Future...
General spoilers for _Buffy_ S6 through present. Also the word of Joss
as to what next year will be like.
i
http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Wanda/Archive2002/020503d.html
[quote]
Buffy Creator Joss Whedon Talks Climaxes & Criticism
> Buffy and Angel fans seem to be more critical than ever this season.
> Does that affect you?
It always affects me. At the same time, I need to give them what they
need, not what they want. They need to have their hearts broken. They
need to see change. They hated Oz, and then they hated that he left.
These things are inevitable. If people are freaking out, I'm good. If
people are going, "Hmmm...well, that was fine," I'm fucked.
[/quote]
-Tafka-
"I meant to say, he's my favoritest character since Doyle."
"That's it, Angel's eating it." - Tim Minear
Ninia
> Ninia <Even...@wanadoo.nl> on Sat, 4 May 2002 12:50:22 +0200 in
> alt.buffy.europe said:
>
> >Niall Harrison zei:
> >>
> >> An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, S3 and The Future...
> >>
> >> General spoilers for _Buffy_ S6 through present; specific _Angel_ spoilers
> >> up to 3x19. Also the word of Joss as to what next year will be like.
> >
> >Oh this is very bad. Because I want to know what next year will be like
> >on Buffy but I don't want to be spoiled on Angel because I did not see
> >season 3 yet. What now???
>
> Copy & pasted from Niall's post- taking out Angel spoilers:
>
> An interview with Joss, where he talks about S6, and The Future...
>
> General spoilers for _Buffy_ S6 through present. Also the word of Joss
> as to what next year will be like.
Thanks very much Tafka and Niall as well.
I enjoyed it very much and I was not spoiled for Angel.
Stephen Walker
For an interesting, if slightly cynical take on the interview:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=robm-A91C7D.23034503052002%40nyctyp02.r
dc-nyc.rr.com
> [quote]
>
>
>> Your theme for this year was: "Oh, Grow Up." Do you have one for next
>> year?
The theme this year seems to have been to make the viewers scream "Oh, Grow
Up." at the characters all season.
>
> Yes. It's: "Buffy Year One." It's let's get back to the joy of this very
> simple concept, that this silly woman no one takes seriously is actually
> the most powerful woman in the world.
Will SMG be in miniskirts again?
>
>> Speaking of crossovers, any hope for Buffy and Angel diehards?
>
> What I always say is: Guys, they're on two different networks. There's no
> way. Buffy and Angel physically could not exist. If they were on the same
> network, we would have done the Buffy-Spike thing anyway. But we probably
> would have had a crossover moment when they would go, "You're sleeping
> with whom?!" It became difficult in the third year to truly bring change
> to Buffy and Angel. People want to watch change. Growth. They want climax.
I wish journalists would stop bringing the B/A thing up, I think they want
it more than the fans do!
>
> S7 without junkie-Willow? I'm there. :-)
>
Let me know what it's like.
Stephen
--
"Spike will never be a good boy. He doesn't have it in him." - Joss Whedon.
Niall Harrison
'Slightly' cynical? :-)
But, he does make some good points. I noticed that Joss didn't praise
Marti, too.
>> S7 without junkie-Willow? I'm there. :-)
>
> Let me know what it's like.
You won't be watching? :-/
Niall
--
Despair could never touch a day like this.
ankhor
> Thanks very much Tafka and Niall as well.
> I enjoyed it very much and I was not spoiled for Angel.
Neither was I reading the original, you see that a question
started out to be a angel question so i skipped that part.