Are we freezing because of global warming?
Evelyn
Love
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>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/opinion/26cohen.html?_r=1
I'm not sure that anyone has calculated the albedo effect for land areas
being covered in snow where they were not before. The funny thing with
water is that a couple of degrees can make the difference between rain
and snow. Since snow reflects light and heat back out into space instead
of absorbing it, this could go some distance towards regulating the
global temperature, keeping the average increase lower at the expense of
making some regions colder. It just sucks if that happens to be my
region that gets the cold treatment. We really need to learn how to
package the cold up and ship it places where they really need it.
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Love
Kitty P
"Evelyn" <evely...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Evelyn - that was a good article. I've read about the effect before, but I
couldn't figure out how to write it coherently- which this author did.
Kitty
DT
Storage is gonna be your big problem. Even if you could ship it down
here, we don't want it *now*. Check back with my around mid-April.
DT
DT
C'mon, ladies; it's been explained to us right here several times that
warming can't make it cold!
See also: http://www.gocomics.com/donwright/2010/12/26/
DT
Evelyn
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Yes, made sense to me also. The only thing I can't seem to figure out
is how this particular phenomenon got to be so politicized!
Evelyn
Awaken21
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:13:07 -0800, "Kitty P" <kittyp2...@hotmail.com>
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> >"Evelyn" <evelyn.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/opinion/26cohen.html?_r=1
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> >Evelyn - that was a good article. I've read about the effect before, but I
> >couldn't figure out how to write it coherently- which this author did.
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> >Kitty
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> Yes, made sense to me also. The only thing I can't seem to figure out
> is how this particular phenomenon got to be so politicized!
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> Evelyn
Energy is completely politicized everywhere. Trillions of dollars at
stake worldwide.
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"To make an apple pie from scratch you must first invent the
universe."
- Carl Sagan
Evelyn
<lukec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 13, 12:31�pm, Evelyn <evelyn.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:13:07 -0800, "Kitty P" <kittyp2...@hotmail.com>
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>> >"Evelyn" <evelyn.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/opinion/26cohen.html?_r=1
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>> >Evelyn - that was a good article. I've read about the effect before, but I
>> >couldn't figure out how to write it coherently- which this author did.
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>> >Kitty
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>> Yes, made sense to me also. �The only thing I can't seem to figure out
>> is how this particular phenomenon got to be so politicized!
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>> Evelyn
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>Energy is completely politicized everywhere. Trillions of dollars at
>stake worldwide.
Yes, of course that is true. And which political party happens to be
big into oil companies etc? Yep.....
Evelyn
Awaken21
Actually... Energy is non-partisan corruption. Both sides suck from
that tit. The Republicans can just afford to be more open about it
because they don't represent the middle to lower classes and don't
pretend to.
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“Meditation brings wisdom; lack of meditation leaves ignorance. Know
well what leads you forward and what holds you back, and choose the
path that leads to wisdom.”
— Buddha
Wilson
Clearly we should just nationalize all of the oil companies right now.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65111
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Wilson
Wilson
> On Jan 13, 1:57 pm, Evelyn<evelyn.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:54:10 -0800 (PST), Awaken21
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>> <lukecar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 13, 12:31 pm, Evelyn<evelyn.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:13:07 -0800, "Kitty P"<kittyp2...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> "Evelyn"<evelyn.r...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:13vti6tnm1qop313h...@4ax.com...
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>>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/opinion/26cohen.html?_r=1
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>>>>> Evelyn - that was a good article. I've read about the effect before, but I
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>>>>> Kitty
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>>>> Yes, made sense to me also. The only thing I can't seem to figure out
>>>> is how this particular phenomenon got to be so politicized!
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>>>> Evelyn
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>>> Energy is completely politicized everywhere. Trillions of dollars at
>>> stake worldwide.
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>> Yes, of course that is true. And which political party happens to be
>> big into oil companies etc? Yep.....
>>
>> Evelyn
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> Actually... Energy is non-partisan corruption. Both sides suck from
> that tit. The Republicans can just afford to be more open about it
> because they don't represent the middle to lower classes and don't
> pretend to.
Oh bullshit. I'm as middle class as they come. The base of the Repubs
are the middle class.
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Wilson
Awaken21
I didn't say there aren't any middle class Republicans, I said they
don't represent the middle class. They don't represent fiscal
conservatives either but there's a boat load of them in the party.
Awaken21
> On 1/13/2011 1:57 PM, Evelyn wrote:
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How about we just tax oil and pour as much money as possible into
alternative energy research. Or are we incapable of doing anything
that is not the most drastic harmful thing?
Kitty P
"DT" <dal...@gnusguy.com> wrote in message
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I never get tired of looking at that one heh
Evelyn
Who vote against their own best interest.....
Evelyn
Wilson
Simple condescention ... is that supposed to impress or persuade? As if
you'd have any idea what my best interests are. Telling others what
they need and should want ... typical.
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Wilson
Awaken21
Because pushing idealistic capitalism isn't doing that at all, no
sir...
Love
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>Clearly we should just nationalize all of the oil companies right now.
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>http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65111
Sure, because if anything trumps freedom it's cheap gas.
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Love
Love
lukec...@gmail.com says...
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>> Clearly we should just nationalize all of the oil companies right now.
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>> Wilson
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>How about we just tax oil and pour as much money as possible into
>alternative energy research. Or are we incapable of doing anything
>that is not the most drastic harmful thing?
There is no "we", only individuals, and maximal freedom is
the only measure of good.
--
Love, washing his mouth out with soap
Awaken21
> In article <295ba689-84a4-45e9-9106-0b5c43078...@g26g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> lukecar...@gmail.com says...
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> >> Clearly we should just nationalize all of the oil companies right now.
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> >>http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=3DPAGE.view&pageId=3D65111
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> >> Wilson
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> >How about we just tax oil and pour as much money as possible into
> >alternative energy research. Or are we incapable of doing anything
> >that is not the most drastic harmful thing?
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> There is no "we", only individuals, and maximal freedom is
> the only measure of good.
And everyone persuing their own selfish interests automatically works
in everyones best interest.
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> Love, washing his mouth out with soap
Hurry up will ya? I gotta pee too.
Wilson
I share my ideas and thoughts and don't intend to "push" anything. If
I've ever told someone here that I know better than they do what's in
their best interest or what's good for them I don't remember it. If I
did I will apologize immediately. It's incredibly high-handed and
condescending. And utter nonsense as well.
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Wilson
Keynes
I'm going to save this and make you eat it.
In a day or two probably.
Wilson
Heh!
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Wilson
Awaken21
Yeah I thought the same thing. We should make grid and do a betting
pool on the timeline. Dollar per box.
Easy money, we all do it. It's just he see's it more clearly when
someone who's the other political extreme is talking.
Love
says...
You don't have a choice. None of us do. If we support
a particular idea of how to organise civilisation we are
inevitably pushing it on others in some manner. Even
capitalism requires the mother of all meta-meta controls
on the people to work: currency.
Now of course there are degrees. You stop short of
ramming the freedom manifesto down people's throats
in your balled-up fist. I, on the other hand, haven't
quite learned that degree of restraint. :)
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Love
Love
Key...@earthlinkspam.net says...
Keep it in the fridge until then, eh?
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Love
Wilson
> In article<Gf2dnapTVvz65K3Q...@supernews.com>, Wil...@nowhere.net
> says...
>>>
>>> sir...
>>
>> I share my ideas and thoughts and don't intend to "push" anything. If
>> I've ever told someone here that I know better than they do what's in
>> their best interest or what's good for them I don't remember it. If I
>> did I will apologize immediately. It's incredibly high-handed and
>> condescending. And utter nonsense as well.
>
> You don't have a choice. None of us do. If we support
> a particular idea of how to organise civilisation we are
> inevitably pushing it on others in some manner. Even
> capitalism requires the mother of all meta-meta controls
> on the people to work: currency.
>
> Now of course there are degrees. You stop short of
> ramming the freedom manifesto down people's throats
> in your balled-up fist. I, on the other hand, haven't
> quite learned that degree of restraint. :)
>
I try to not be dogmatic.
Woof.
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Wilson