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The women of the Tiwi tribe in the South
Pacific are married at birth.

When Albert Einstein died, his final words
died with him. The nurse at his side didn't
understand German.

St Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland, was
not Irish.

The lance ceased to be an official battle weapon
in the British Army in 1927.

St. John was the only one of the 12 Apostles
to die a natural death.

Many sailors used to wear gold earrings so that
they could afford a proper burial when they died.

Some very Orthodox Jew refuse to speak Hebrew,
believing it to be a language reserved only for
the Prophets.

A South African monkey was once awarded a medal
and promoted to the rank of corporal during World
War I.

Born 4 January 1838, General Tom Thumb's growth
slowed at the age of 6 months, at 5 years he was
signed to the circus by P.T. Barnum, and at adulthood
reached a height of only 1 metre.

Because they had no proper rubbish disposal system,
the streets of ancient Mesopotamia became literally
knee-deep in rubbish.

The Toltecs, Seventh-century native Mexicans,
went into battle with wooden swords so as not to
kill their enemies.

China banned the pigtail in 1911 as it was seen
as a symbol of feudalism.

The Amayra guides of Bolivia are said to be able
to keep pace with a trotting horse for a distance
of 100 kilometres.

Sliced bread was patented by Mrs P. Ride, a mother
of 5, on 1 April 1954.

Before it was stopped by the British, it was
the not uncommon for women in some area's of India
to choose to be burnt alive on their husband's
funeral pyre.

Ivan the terrible claimed to have 'deflowered
thousands of virgins and butchered a similar
number of resulting offspring'.

Before the Second World War, it was considered
a sacrilege to even touch an Emperor of Japan.

An American aircraft in Vietnam shot itself down
with one of its own missiles.

The Anglo-Saxons believed Friday to be such an
unlucky day that they ritually slaughtered any
child unfortunate enough to be born on that day.

During the eighteenth century, laws had to be
brought in to curb the seemingly insatiable
appetite for gin amongst the poor. Their annual
intake was as much as five million gallons.

Ancient drinkers warded off the devil by clinking
their cups

The Nobel Prize resulted form a late change in
the will of Alfred Nobel, who did not want to be
remembered after his death as a propagator of
violence - he invented dynamite.

The cost of the first pay-toilets installed in
England was tuppence.

Pogonophobia is the fear of beards.

In 1647 the English Parliament abolished Christmas.

Mao Rse-Tang, the first chairman of the Chinese
Communist Party, was born 26 December 1893. Before
his rise to power, he occupied the humble position
of Assistant Librarian at the University of Peking.

Coffee is the second largest item of international
commerce in the world. The largest is petrol.

King George III was declared violently insane in
1811, 9 years before he died.

In Ancient Peru, when a woman found an 'ugly'
potato, it was the custom for her to push it
into the face of the nearest man.

For Roman Catholics, 5 January is St Simeon
Stylites' Day. He was a fifth-century hermit
who showed his devotion to God by spending literally
years sitting on top of a huge flagpole.

When George I became King of England in 1714, his
wife did not become Queen. He placed her under
house arrest for 32 years.

The richest 10 per cent of the French people are
approximately fifty times better off than the
poorest 10 per cent.

Henry VII was the only British King to be crowned
on the field of battle

During World War One, the future Pope John XXIII
was a sergeant in the Italian Army.

Richard II died aged 33 in 1400. A hole was left
in the side of his tomb so people could touch
his royal head, but 376 years later some took
advantage of this and stole his jawbone.

The magic word "Abracadabra" was originally
intended for the specific purpose of curing hay fever.

The Puritans forbade the singing of Christmas
Carols, judging them to be out of keeping
with the true spirit of Christmas.

Albert Einstein was once offered the Presidency
of Israel. He declined saying he had no head
for problems.

Uri Geller, the professional psychic was born
on December 20 1946. As to the origin of his
alleged powers, Mr Geller maintains that they
come from the distant planet of Hoova.

Ralph and Carolyn Cummins had 5 children between
1952 and 1966, all were born on the 20 February.

John D. Rockefeller gave away over US$ 500,000,000
during his lifetime.

Only 1 child in 20 are born on the day predicted
by the doctor.

In the 1970's, the Rhode Island Legislature
in the US entertained a proposal that there
be a $2 tax on every act of sexual intercourse
in the State.

Widows in equatorial Africa actually wear sackcloth
and ashes when attending a funeral.

The 'Hundred Years War' lasted 116 years.

The British did not release the body of Napoleon
Bonaparte to the French until twenty days after
his death.

Admiral Lord Nelson was less than 1.6 metres tall.

John Glenn, the American who first orbited the Earth,
was showered with 3,529 tonnes of ticker tape when
he got back.

American Red Indians used to name their children
after the first thing they saw as they left their
tepees subsequent to the birth. Hence such strange
names as Sitting Bull and Running Water.

Catherine the First of Russia, made a rule that
no man was allowed to get drunk at one of her parties
before nine o'clock.

Queen Elizabeth I passed a law which forced everyone
except for the rich to wear a flat cap on Sundays.

In 1969 the shares of the Australian company
'Poseidon' were worth $1, one year later they
were worth $280 each.

Julius Caesar wore a laurel wreath to cover
the onset of baldness.

Ernest Bevin, Minister of Labour during World War II,
left school at the age of eleven.

At the age of 12, Martin Luther King became so
depressed he tried committing suicide twice, by
jumping out of his bedroom window.

It is illegal to be a prostitute in Siena,Italy,
if your name is Mary.

The Turk's consider it considered unlucky to step
on a piece of bread.

The authorities do not allow tourists to take
pictures of Pygmies in Zambia.

The Dutch in general prefer their french fries
with mayonnaise.

Upon the death of F.D. Roosevelt, Harry S Truman
became the President of America on 12 April 1945.
The initial S in the middle of his name doesn't
in fact mean anything. Both his grandfathers had
names beginning with 'S', and so Truman's mother
didn't want to disappoint either of them.

Sir Isaac Newton was obsessed with the occult and
the supernatural.

One of Queen Victoria's wedding gifts was a 3 metre
diameter, half tonne cheese.

Alexander Graham Bell, the inventor of the telephone,
never phones his wife or his mother, they were both deaf.

It was considered unfashionable for Venetian women,
during the Renaissance to have anything but
silvery-blonde hair.

Queen Victoria was one of the first women ever to
use chloroform to combat pain during childbirth.

Peter the Great had the head of his wife's lover
cut off and put into a jar of preserving alcohol,
which he then ordered to be placed by her bed.

The car manufacturer Henry Ford was awarded Hitler's
Supreme Order of the German Eagle / Iron Cross. Henry
Ford was the inventor of the assembly line, and Hitler
used this knowledge of the assembly line to speed up
production, and to create better and interchangable
products.
( Ford was not awarded 2 medals, but multiple sources
have mentioned both the German Eagle and Iron cross,
can anyone confirm one or the other ... with source
of data )

Atilla the Hun is thought to have been a dwarf.

The warriors tribes of Ethiopia used to hang the
testicles of those they killed in battle on the
ends of their spears.

On 15 April 1912 the SS Titanic sunk on her maiden
voyage and over 1,500 people died. Fourteen years
earlier a novel was published by Morgan Robertson
which seemed to foretell the disaster. The book
described a ship the same size as the Titanic which
crashes into an iceberg on its maiden voyage on a
misty April night. The name of Robertson's fictional
ship was the Titan.

There are over 200 religious denominations in the
United States.

Eau de Cologne was originally marketed as a way of
protecting yourself against the plague.

Charles the Simple was the grandson of Charles
the Bald, both were rulers of France.

Gabriel and Michael are the only 2 angels to be
named in the bible.

Theodor Herzi, the Zionist leader who was born on
May 2 1860, once had the astonishing idea of converting
Jews to Christianity as a way of combating anti-Semitism.

The women of an African tribe make themselves
more attractive by permanently scaring their faces.

Augustus II, the Elector of Saxony and King of
Poland seemed to have a prodigious sexual appetite,
and fathered hundreds of illegitimate children
during his lifetime.

Some moral purists in the Middle Ages believed that
women's ears ought to be covered up because the Virgin
May had conceived a child through them.

Hindus don't like dying in bed, they prefer to die
beside a river.

While at Havard University, Edward Kennedy was
suspended for cheating on a Spanish exam.

It is a criminal offence to f\drive around in a
dirty car in Russia.

The mad Emperor Caligula once decided to go to war
with the Roman God of the sea, Poseidon, and ordered
his soldiers to throw their spears into the water
at random.

The Ecuadorian poet, José Olmedo, has a statue in
his honour in his home country. But, unable to commission
a sculptor, due to limited funds, the government
brought a second-hand statue .. Of the English poet
Lord Byron.

In 1726, at only 7 years old, Charles Sauson inherited
the post of official executioner.

Sir Winston Churchill rationed himself to 15 cigars a day.

On 7 January 1904 the distress call 'CQD' was introduced.
'CQ' stood for 'Seek You' and 'D' for 'Danger'. This
lasted only until 1906 when it was replaced with 'SOS'.

Though it is forbidden by the Government, many Indians
still adhere to the caste system which says that it is
a defilement for even the shadow of a person from a
lowly caste to fall on a Braham ( a member of the highest
priestly caste).

In parts of Malaya, the women keep harems of men.

The childrens' nursery rhyme 'Ring-a-Ring-a-Roses' actually
refers to the Black Death which killed about 30 million
people in the fourteenth-century.

The word 'denim' comes from 'de Nimes', Nimes being the
town the fabric was originally produced.

During the reign of Elizabeth I, there was a tax put
on men's beards.

Idi Amin, one of the most ruthless tyrants in the
world, before coming to power, served in the British Army.

Some Eskimos have been known to use refrigerators
to keep their food from freezing.

It is illegal to play tennis in the streets of
Cambridge.

Custer was the youngest General in US history, he
was promoted at the age of 23.

It costs more to send someone to reform school
than it does to send them to Eton.

The American pilot Charles Lindbergh received the
Service Cross of the German Eagle form Hermann
Goering in 1938.

The active ingredient in Chinese Bird's nest
soup is saliva.

Marie Currie, who twice won the Nobel Prize, and
discovered radium, was not allowed to become a member
of the prestigious French Academy because
she was a woman.

It was quite common for the men of Ancient
Greece to exercise in public .. naked.

John Paul Getty, once the richest man in the world,
had a payphone in his mansion.

Iceland is the world's oldest functioning democracy.

Adolf Eichmann (responsible for countless Jewish
deaths during World war II), was originally a
travelling salesman for the Vacuum Oil Co. of Austria.

The national flag of Italy was designed by Napoleon
Bonaparte.

The Matami Tribe of West Africa play a version of
football, the only difference being that they use
a human skull instead of a more normal ball.

John Winthrop introduced the fork to the American
dinner table for the first time on 25 June 1630.

Elizabeth Blackwell, born in Bristol, England on
3 February 1821, was the first woman in America to
gain an M.D. degree.

Abraham Lincoln was shot with a Derringer.

The great Russian leader, Lenin died 21 January
1924, suffering from a degenerative brain disorder.
At the time of his death his brain was a quarter
of its normal size.

When shipped to the US, the London bridge ( thought
by the new owner to be the more famous Tower Bridge )
was classified by US customs to be a 'large antique'.

Sir Winston Churchill was born in a ladies' cloakroom
after his mother went into labour during a dance at
Blenheim Palace.

In 1849, David Atchison became President of the
United States for just one day, and he spent most
of the day sleeping.

Between the two World War's, France was controlled
by forty different governments.

The 'Crystal Palace' at the Great Exhibition of 1851,
contained 92 900 square metres of glass.

It was the custom in Ancient Rome for the men to place
their right hand on their testicles when taking an oath.
The modern term 'testimony' is derived from this
tradition.

Sir Winston Churchill's mother was descended
from a Red Indian.

The study of stupidity is called 'monology'.

Hindu men believe(d) it to be unluckily to marry
a third time. They could avoid misfortune by marrying
a tree first. The tree ( his third wife ) was then
burnt, freeing him to marry again.

More money is spent each year on alcohol and
cigarettes than on Life insurance.

In 1911 3 men were hung for the murder of Sir
Edmund Berry at Greenbury Hill, their last
names were Green, Berry , and Hill.

A firm in Britain sold fall-out shelters for pets.

During the seventeen century , the Sultan of
Turkey ordered his entire harem of women drowned,
and replace with a new one.

Lady Astor once told Winston Churchill 'if
you were my husband, I would poison your coffee'.
His reply .' if you were my wife, I would drink it ! '.

There are no clocks in Las Vegas casinos.

The Great Pyramid of Giza consists of 2,300,000
blocks each weighing 2.5 tons.

On 9 February 1942, soap rationing began in Britain.

Paul Revere was a dentist.

The Budget speech on April 17 1956 saw the introduction
of Premium Savings Bonds into Britain. The machine which
picks the winning numbers is called "Ernie", an abbreviation,
which stands for' electronic random number indicator
equipment'.

Chop-suey is not a native Chinese dish, it was created
in California by Chinese immigrants.

The Russian mystic, Rasputin, was the victim of a
series of murder attempts on this day in 1916. The
assassins poisoned, shot and stabbed him in quick succession,
but they found they were unable to finish him off.
Rasputin finally succumbed to the ice-cold waters of a river.

Bonnie Prince Charlie, the leader of the Jacobite
rebellion to depose of George II of England, was born
31 December 1720. Considered a great Scottish hero, he
spent his final years as a drunkard in Rome.

The Liberal Prime Minister, William Gladstone, was
born of the 29th December 1809. Apparently, as a
result of his strong Puritan impulses, Gladstone
kept a selection of whips in his cellar with which
he regularly chastised himself.

A parthenophobic has a fear of virgins.

South American gauchos were known to put raw steak
under their saddles before starting a day's riding,
in order to tenderise the meat.

There are 240 white dots in a Pacman arcade game.

In 1939 the US political party 'The American Nazi
Party' had 200,000 members.

King Solomon of Israel had about 700 wives as well
as hundreds of mistresses.

Urine was once used to wash clothes.

North American Indian, Sitting Bull, died on 15
December 1890. His bones were laid to rest in North Dakota,
but a business group wanted him moved to a 'more natural'
site in South Dakota. Their campaign was rejected so
they stole the bones, and they now reside in Sitting
Bull Park, South Dakota.

St Nicholas, the original Father Christmas, is the
patron saint of thieves, virgins and communist Russia.

Dublin is home of the Fairy Investigation Society.

Fourteen million people were killed in World War I,
twenty million died in a flu epidemic in the years
that followed.

People in Siberia often buy milk frozen on a stick.

Princess Ann was the only competitor at the 1976
Montreal Olympics that did not have to undergo a sex test.

Ethelred the Unready, King of England in the
Tenth-century, spent his wedding night in bed
with his wife and his mother-in-law.

Coffins which are due for cremation are
usually made with plastic handles.

Blackbird, who was the chief of Omaha Indians, was
buried sitting on his favourite horse.

The two highest IQ's ever recorded (on a standard test)
both belong to women.

The Tory Prime Minister, Benjamin Disreali, was born
21 December 1804. He was noted for his oratory and had a
number of memorable exchanges in the House with his great
rival William Gladstone. Asked what the difference between
a calamity and a misfortune was Disreali replied:
'If Gladstone fell into the Thames it would be a
misfortune, but if someone pulled him out again,
it would be a calamity'.

The Imperial Throne of Japan has been occupied by
the same family for the last thirteen hundred years.

In the seventeenth-century a Boston man was sentenced
to two hours in the stocks for obscene behaviour,
his crime, kissing his wife in a public place
on a Sunday.

President Kaunda of Zambia once threatened to resign
if his fellow countrymen didn't stop drinking so much alcohol.

Due to staggering inflation in the 1920's,
4,000,000,000,000,000,000 German marks were worth 1 US dollar.

Gorgias of Epirus was born during preparation of
his mothers funeral.

The city of New York contains a district called
'Hell's Kitchen'.

The city of Hiroshima left the Industrial
Promotion Centre standing as a monument the
atomic bombing.

During the Medieval Crusades, transporting bodies
off the battlefield for burial was a major problem,
this was solved by carrying a huge cauldron into
the Holy wars, boiling down the bodies, and
taking only the bones with them.

A ten-gallon hat holds three-quarters of a gallon.

George Washington grew marijuana in his garden.

--
Sanford M. Manley
"The urge to save humanity is almost
always a false front for the
urge to rule." - H.L. Mencken
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Ralphien

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Op Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:53:32 -0500 schreef "www.ansaman.com"
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>The Amayra guides of Bolivia are said to be able
>to keep pace with a trotting horse for a distance
>of 100 kilometres.

I seriously doubt if any horse can trot that distance. :)

>Before it was stopped by the British, it was
>the not uncommon for women in some area's of India
>to choose to be burnt alive on their husband's
>funeral pyre.

Pffff... it was even less uncommon for women to be FORCED to do that.

>The Dutch in general prefer their french fries
>with mayonnaise.

Hehehe... thanks for spreading that half-truth in Pulp Fiction,
Tarantino! Actually, Dutch people in general use a special much
cheaper sauce-thingy which looks like mayonnaise but is definitely not
the real thing.


>On 15 April 1912 the SS Titanic sunk on her maiden
>voyage and over 1,500 people died. Fourteen years
>earlier a novel was published by Morgan Robertson
>which seemed to foretell the disaster. The book
>described a ship the same size as the Titanic which
>crashes into an iceberg on its maiden voyage on a
>misty April night. The name of Robertson's fictional
>ship was the Titan.

I like this one!

>Some Eskimos have been known to use refrigerators
>to keep their food from freezing.

I can believe that! In winter I sometimes put the perishables outside
because my kitchen is too cold for the fridge to work properly. :)

>Iceland is the world's oldest functioning democracy.

Really? Good old Iceland... I know absolutely nothing about its
democracy.

>
>Adolf Eichmann (responsible for countless Jewish
>deaths during World war II), was originally a
>travelling salesman for the Vacuum Oil Co. of Austria.

"And remember, when you need true sucking power, choose PermaSuck
vaccuum cleaners. We don't just make products that suck - we make
products that suck permanently!" (brought to you by Frobozz Electric
Company)

Ralphien aka Miss Black Tulip '99

Ned Ludd

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>
>> Before it was stopped by the British, it was
>> the not uncommon for women in some area's of India
>> to choose to be burnt alive on their husband's
>> funeral pyre.
>
> Pffff... it was even less uncommon for women to be FORCED to do that.
>
>> The Dutch in general prefer their french fries
>> with mayonnaise.
>
> Hehehe... thanks for spreading that half-truth in Pulp Fiction,
> Tarantino! Actually, Dutch people in general use a special much
> cheaper sauce-thingy which looks like mayonnaise but is definitely
> not the real thing.
>

The duckweed sweeps in,
again the black tulip blooms -
War horse of Holland.

Ned


Ralphien

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Old enemies meet,
dark water and green duckweed...
a nightmare is born.

Ralphien

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Op Wed, 28 Dec 2005 17:05:28 +0100 schreef Ralphien <here!@>:

I won't stay long, it's a kind of ritual, I guess. I always think of
absfg this time of year. Every year there are fewer of the old
regulars I remember. Makes me sad because I haven't learned a bloody
thing in all those years. The older I get, the more I want things to
stay the same.


Ned Ludd

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>
>>>>> The Dutch in general prefer their french fries
>>>>> with mayonnaise.
>>>>
>>>> Hehehe... thanks for spreading that half-truth in Pulp Fiction,
>>>> Tarantino! Actually, Dutch people in general use a special much
>>>> cheaper sauce-thingy which looks like mayonnaise but is definitely
>>>> not the real thing.
>>>
>>> The duckweed sweeps in,
>>> again the black tulip blooms -
>>> War horse of Holland.
>>
>> Old enemies meet,
>> dark water and green duckweed...
>> a nightmare is born.
>
> I won't stay long, it's a kind of ritual, I guess. I always think of
> absfg this time of year. Every year there are fewer of the old
> regulars I remember. Makes me sad because I haven't learned a bloody
> thing in all those years. The older I get, the more I want things to
> stay the same.
>

So very, very true. Last night, my favorite bar closed down.
(For good.) The one right around the corner. It is being replaced
by a Tae Kwan Do parlor. We were there till 1:30. They were giving
the drinks away. Took my videocam. Everybody was sloppy, sentimental
drunk. There's NO other bar nearby that will do.

This is the way the world ends...

Ned

(Dynamite haiku, btw.)


Uncle Weasel

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:22:01 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote
(in message <ZQzsf.11038$nm....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>):

Miss Black Tulip:


>> I won't stay long, it's a kind of ritual, I guess. I always think of
>> absfg this time of year. Every year there are fewer of the old
>> regulars I remember.

Xin:
Whom do you miss?

>> Makes me sad because I haven't learned a bloody
>> thing in all those years.

That would be considered bragging in certain circles.

>> The older I get, the more I want things to
>> stay the same.

A recipe for depression. Unless you can savor the bittersweetness of such
fond sadness.

This is one reason why I like the northern forest. With time, it only seems
to get better. Unless they cut it down again.

> Ned:


> So very, very true. Last night, my favorite bar closed down.
> (For good.) The one right around the corner. It is being replaced
> by a Tae Kwan Do parlor. We were there till 1:30. They were giving
> the drinks away. Took my videocam. Everybody was sloppy, sentimental
> drunk. There's NO other bar nearby that will do.
>
> This is the way the world ends...

Some of my favorite bars in Boston and Chicago are gone. Chicago was a bar
town -- all significant social interactions happened in bars. There were
about a dozen bars within two Chi-town blocks of Bissell and Armitage, and
about eight of them were "my" bars. They all had their own flavors, from
upscale to raunchy. I'd start with the almost yuppie Noah's Ark, and end up
at the very tolerant Brass Ass, where there was a fifty percent chance of
someone passed out with their head on the counter.

The Gainsborough Pub, near Symphony Hall in Boston, perfectly reflected the
neighborhood -- junkies, hookers, artists, musicians, and would-be zennie
drunkards. All the bartenders were gay. One night at last call, the main
bartender leaned over the bar and whispered, "C'mon back in about half an
hour!" Her girl friend kind of glared at me. When I came back, all the blinds
were drawn. An eyeball peered through a crack -- shades of Fernando's
Hideaway! We partied with free beer until dawn, and I made the bartender's
girl friend real jealous by dancing with her woman all night.
A year later it was a sports bar with hockey players muralized on the
walls.

Glascott's Groggery in Chicago, a real Irish workingman's bar, had big new
windows and ferns all over the place when I came back ten years after leaving
Chicago. The latino neighborhood was a gentrified yuppie wasteland without
the soul of the poor people, who invented a culture to make even poverty
interesting.

> (Dynamite haiku, btw.)

Yes.

Good to see your name again, Ralphien.

---Weasel Tracks


--

"Do you ever feel like a very sincere pig
in the realm of the hungry ghosts?" -- John Timothy Hall

Giggles Like a Girl

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>Op Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:53:32 -0500 schreef "www.ansaman.com"
><manl...@bellsouth.net>:
>
>
>>The Amayra guides of Bolivia are said to be able
>>to keep pace with a trotting horse for a distance
>>of 100 kilometres.
>
>I seriously doubt if any horse can trot that distance. :)

I've read where a human being can actually outrun a
horse if the distance is long enough; a stamina
thing. I know for sure that human being doesn't
happen to be me.


>>The Dutch in general prefer their french fries
>>with mayonnaise.
>
>Hehehe... thanks for spreading that half-truth in Pulp Fiction,
>Tarantino! Actually, Dutch people in general use a special much
>cheaper sauce-thingy which looks like mayonnaise but is definitely not
>the real thing.

The Danes use something like tartar sauce, I hear.
Any right-thinking person knows that only vinegar
and salt should adorn one's fries. Or gravy and
cheese curds, but definitely not anything whitish
and creamy, and not ketchup/catsup as the Americans
do (and export in full cultural imperialist fashion
via the subversive golden arches).


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To email me add dawt see eh.

bonfils

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:18:15 -0500,
abs...@static-b2-190.highspeed.eol (Giggles Like a Girl) wrote:

>The Danes use something like tartar sauce, I hear.

Remoulade:
http://tinyurl.com/a5jlc

Pic here:
http://www.danish-deli-food.com/images/r0373.jpg

And BTW, you brought this up before:
http://tinyurl.com/c8tg2

--
bonfils
http://kim.bonfils.com

leebert

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Giggles Like a Girl wrote:

> The Danes use something like tartar sauce, I hear.
> Any right-thinking person knows that only vinegar
> and salt should adorn one's fries. Or gravy and
> cheese curds, but definitely not anything whitish
> and creamy, and not ketchup/catsup as the Americans
> do (and export in full cultural imperialist fashion
> via the subversive golden arches).

Excuse' moi, but we 'merkins do *THIS*

Fast food joint recipe:

1 honey-mustard tub
1 mayonaisse packet
Mix them together
Add pepper
Dip your fries in it. Yum.

At home, this sauce (not sure what to call it) is concocted as follows:
3 parts mayo
1 part honey
1 part mustard (any type will do... gourmet / gourmond / hot as hell
anything short of wasabi)
Onion powder (to cover)
Garlic powder (1/4 the onion)
Celery seed (to cover)
Paprika ( 1/2 the onion ... or Chile powder )
Jalapeno juice (a dash from a jar of jalepenos... )
Pepper (to cover -- cheap powdered stuff, not fresh-ground)

/leebert

Wilson

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"leebert" <leeber...@yahoo.com> wrote ...


On FRIES?!? I'm all for freedom of expression but that's
just wrong in so many ways . . .

(Vinegar and salt is okay, but ketchup rules!)

Donald Shepherd

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Dec 29, 2005, 12:49:04 PM12/29/05
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leebert wrote:

> Excuse' moi, but we 'merkins do *THIS*
>
> Fast food joint recipe:
>
> 1 honey-mustard tub
> 1 mayonaisse packet
> Mix them together
> Add pepper
> Dip your fries in it. Yum.
>
> At home, this sauce (not sure what to call it) is concocted as follows:
> 3 parts mayo
> 1 part honey
> 1 part mustard (any type will do... gourmet / gourmond / hot as hell
> anything short of wasabi)
> Onion powder (to cover)
> Garlic powder (1/4 the onion)
> Celery seed (to cover)
> Paprika ( 1/2 the onion ... or Chile powder )
> Jalapeno juice (a dash from a jar of jalepenos... )
> Pepper (to cover -- cheap powdered stuff, not fresh-ground)
>
> /leebert

Texans are the way they are because of what they eat...

Don

Lazarhat

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Dec 29, 2005, 1:12:00 PM12/29/05
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"Wilson" <puddinhe...@att.not> wrote in message
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If the fries are good enough, no sauce is necessary.


leebert

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Dec 29, 2005, 1:51:49 PM12/29/05
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Donald Shepherd wrote:

> Texans are the way they are because of what they eat...

TexMex cuisine will take over the world....

/leebert

Donald Shepherd

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Dec 29, 2005, 2:24:31 PM12/29/05
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And make it a giant trailer park...

Don

dt

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Dec 29, 2005, 5:21:59 PM12/29/05
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Hey, *I've* never put anything but ketchup on my fries!

DT

dt

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Dec 29, 2005, 5:24:25 PM12/29/05
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Chuy's and El Mercado both use the "World Peace Through Tex Mex" line.

I don't know about that stuff you put on your potatoes, though...

DT

dt

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Dec 29, 2005, 5:48:50 PM12/29/05
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You say that like it's a *bad* thing! ;-)

DT

Evelyn Ruut

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Dec 29, 2005, 6:11:56 PM12/29/05
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"dt" <dal...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Years ago my kids and I had a thing for putting BBQ sauce on french fries.
It was pretty good, actually :-)

Evelyn


Donald Shepherd

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Dec 29, 2005, 7:41:28 PM12/29/05
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Didn't mean to. Here's what I always bring to our
Unitarian-Universalist Christmas Eve Pot luck Supper: (As WASPish a
bunch of yuppies as you will ever find west of the Hudson)

> Here is the recipe for the Kozmic Kolbasi I brought to the party last night. The quantities
> are for a three-pound package of kolbasi, so scale up or down as necessary. I made
> nine pounds for last night.
>
> One three-pound package of kolbasi, cut into 1/2" chunks
> One package cherry Kool-Aid, unsweetened
> One cup sugar
> One cup water
> Three ounces yellow mustard
>
> Mix the last four ingredients in a big pot. Add kolbasi and put on high heat. Stir often.
> The syrup will draw water out of the kolbasi, thinning it. Keep boiling it. As syrup
> thickens again, it will want to burn if you don't keep stirring so turn the heat down and
> stir frequently. Serve warm because the fat from the kolbasi looks gross if it congeals.
>
> Actually, nothing about this recipe is critical. Just keep tasting and stop when the
> kolbasi has lost enough water and oil to suit your taste. The kolbasi we had last night
> cooked about a half hour on high heat and about an hour at low heat.

The doctors in the congregation disapprove, but most take guilty
pleasure in enjoying something so White Trashy.

Don

Evelyn Ruut

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Dec 29, 2005, 8:31:35 PM12/29/05
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"Donald Shepherd" <don...@nauticom.net> wrote in message
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Hi Don,

Don't laugh, but I have an actual cookbook called "The White Trash Cookbook"
and it is damn good! :-) This recipe above sounds like it would fit right
in!

Evelyn


Giggles Like a Girl

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Dec 29, 2005, 11:25:32 PM12/29/05
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lazarhat@burnt_crusty_bits_yahoo.com in <11r89ni...@corp.supernews.com>
wrote:

Exactly. Properly prepared fries have a little salt and
vinegar on them and nothing else.

Giggles Like a Girl

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don...@nauticom.net in <1135884271.8...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:

Hey now, don't be disrespecting trailer parks.

leebert

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Dec 29, 2005, 11:34:51 PM12/29/05
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It's a facsimile ... and it turns out a really close one ... of Hyde
Park Bar & Grille's dip for their French Fries...

/lee

Giggles Like a Girl

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Dec 30, 2005, 12:11:03 AM12/30/05
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leeber...@yahoo.com in <1135868015.1...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.

Kim has just posted a link to the proper, *European*,
way to make that.

Giggles Like a Girl

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Dec 30, 2005, 12:11:04 AM12/30/05
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k...@bonfils.my.underwear.com in <eok7r1dme4auqgk0t...@4ax.com>
wrote:

>
>On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:18:15 -0500,
>abs...@static-b2-190.highspeed.eol (Giggles Like a Girl) wrote:
>
>>The Danes use something like tartar sauce, I hear.
>
>Remoulade:
>http://tinyurl.com/a5jlc
>
>Pic here:
>http://www.danish-deli-food.com/images/r0373.jpg

That recipe is enough to make me rethink the "only
salt and vinegar" rule.


>And BTW, you brought this up before:
>http://tinyurl.com/c8tg2

Yeah, I know. If you think I'm boring now wait until
I start drinking and repeating myself daily.

dt

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Dec 30, 2005, 8:38:50 AM12/30/05
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Well, that explains it, then. Had it once, but I'm stickin' to ketchup.

DT

Luke Clossey

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Dec 30, 2005, 11:36:44 AM12/30/05
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In article <43b218d5$0$20951$6d36...@roc.nntpserver.com>,
www.ansaman.com <manl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
[...]

>Because they had no proper rubbish disposal system,
>the streets of ancient Mesopotamia became literally
>knee-deep in rubbish.

A couple weeks ago I read that the amount of rubbish
thrown out per capita is the same in ancient Jericho
as in modern Manhattan. It seems to be some sort
of biological constant.

Luke

bonfils

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Dec 30, 2005, 11:44:36 AM12/30/05
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:11:04 -0500,

abs...@static-b2-190.highspeed.eol (Giggles Like a Girl) wrote:

>k...@bonfils.my.underwear.com in <eok7r1dme4auqgk0t...@4ax.com>
>wrote:


>
>>Remoulade:
>>http://tinyurl.com/a5jlc
>>
>>Pic here:
>>http://www.danish-deli-food.com/images/r0373.jpg
>
>That recipe is enough to make me rethink the "only
>salt and vinegar" rule.

Heh.

>>And BTW, you brought this up before:
>>http://tinyurl.com/c8tg2
>
>Yeah, I know. If you think I'm boring now wait until
>I start drinking and repeating myself daily.

Oh, alright. We'll just have to wait until you drink so much you can't
even repeat yourself properly. Cheers!

--
bonfils
http://kim.bonfils.com

Lazarhat

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"Giggles Like a Girl" <abs...@static-b2-190.highspeed.eol> wrote in message
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NOTHING means no salt and vinegar either, cowpoke....


Giggles Like a Girl

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Dec 30, 2005, 3:21:29 PM12/30/05
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So you bake them rather than deep-frying them? That's
the only way to get NOTHING on them. That can't be right.
I say "nothing else" means "just salt and vinegar".

Of course, I'm thinking of becoming a remoulade convert
so I shouldn't say anything anyway...

leebert

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Dec 30, 2005, 3:32:37 PM12/30/05
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Donald Shepherd wrote:
> leebert wrote:
> > Donald Shepherd wrote:
> >
> > > Texans are the way they are because of what they eat...
> >
> > TexMex cuisine will take over the world....
> >
> And make it a giant trailer park...
>

Apparently you have no idea how good TexMex is.

There are few places in the USA that can rival TexMex's savory delights
of a mesquite-grilled fajita plate served up with sides of refried
beans, Mexican rice, guacamole, cilantro-enhanced pico de gallo &
pureed salsa, washed down with lime-spiked Dos-XX (good Mexican beer)
and topped off with a serving of first-rate flan.

So far the the Mexican food I've tried back east is typically expensive
and disappointing, loaded up with cheese, no cilantro and wimpy-assed
salsa that tastes like tomato soup. WTF? Hasn't anybody ever heard of
fresh jalepenos (never mind poblanos, habaneros or seranos...)?

My first encounter with really good Mexican food was in Albuquerque, a
busy, dark place across from a dump for a motel back in 1989. We were
instant converts... huge plates served cheap. Lard enhances the flavor
of everything and you get giggly in the process.

Hey Dale, whose TexMex is better... Seranos or Baby A's? Baby A's flan
is definitely better, but it's a tough call on the fajitas.

/lee

Giggles Like a Girl

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Dec 30, 2005, 3:52:26 PM12/30/05
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Of course "repeat" and "repeating" have another connotation.

"The turkey repeated on him with a sharp report."

"Pardon me, my breakfast seem to be repeating on me."

Lazarhat

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"Giggles Like a Girl" <abs...@static-b2-190.highspeed.eol> wrote in message
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Just taters. Baked or deep fried in vegetable oil. And nothing else.


Kimberly

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Dec 30, 2005, 7:32:16 PM12/30/05
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No salt? That's just plain wrong, Laz. I'll agree with you on the no
vinegar platform, but fries *need* salt.

--Kimberly (who also likes a little ranch dressing on her fries
occasionally)

--
"There is a special, very highly spiritual level of communication that
knows no age. Froggy slippers are the height." --Evelyn Ruut

Wilson

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Dec 30, 2005, 8:27:41 PM12/30/05
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"Kimberly" <kap...@earthlink.net> wrote ...


I went out to eat with my sister's family. Her three kids all
got pizza. With a side of ranch dressing to dip the crust in.
Pizza with ranch dressing?

Kimberly

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Dec 30, 2005, 8:59:45 PM12/30/05
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I've done that once or twice, too, but only with frozen pizza, which
never tastes as good as real pizza, so it needs something else. I've
dipped garlic bread in ranch dressing, as well. Yum. So what if it's
hard to hear conversation over the sound of my arteries slamming shut?

--Kimberly

Wilson

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Dec 30, 2005, 9:46:34 PM12/30/05
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"Kimberly" <kap...@earthlink.net> wrote ...


You're probably one of those people who will live to be
100. Like that lady I read about a few years ago in the
local paper. She drank a shot of whisky and smoked one
cigarette every day for the last 40 years of her life. (She
used to have more, but cut back when she turned 60 and
decided she was getting too old for that kind of stuff).
Besides the whisky, she figured she owed her longevity to
her sense of humor and not taking things too seriously.


Kimberly

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Dec 31, 2005, 12:25:57 AM12/31/05
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It's a possibility. The women in my family tend to live long lives. I
had a great aunt who lived to be 108. She stayed sharp as a tack right
through the end, too.

Giggles Like a Girl

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lazarhat@burnt_crusty_bits_yahoo.com in <11rbjua...@corp.supernews.com>

"vegetable oil and nothing else" is just chauvinism. Obviously
"nothing else" is a slippery slope.

leebert

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Jan 1, 2006, 1:16:23 PM1/1/06
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Ahhhh, but we're both Philistine comrades when it comes to the way we
dose our Freedom Fries....

Together we stand against the the Canuckistani hegemony of vingar and
salt!

/lee

Uncle Weasel

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Jan 1, 2006, 4:37:26 PM1/1/06
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 13:16:23 -0500, leebert wrote
(in message <1136139382....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):

Poutine! Poutine, I say!
In Vermont, or in Quebec
it's Poutine all the way!

---Uncle Weasel

ps -- did you know you can actually hear arteriosclerosis happening?

--

There are no saints,
There are no sinners,
It's just a bunch of fucking monkeys.
---dar westlake, absfg

Giggles Like a Girl

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Jan 1, 2006, 4:54:07 PM1/1/06
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Aha, so Vermont is an ally in poutine cuisine. Quebec,
Vermont and New Brunswick, what a titanic trio!


>ps -- did you know you can actually hear arteriosclerosis happening?

You sure that's not just the ice cracking under you?

Uncle Weasel

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On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:54:07 -0500, Giggles Like a Girl wrote
(in message <24bb1$43b84f7f$4038ecbe$14...@PRIMUS.CA>):

I just had a phone call that made me crystalize my plans for the month. I'm
going home! For a few days, anyway.

Around here, the ice indeed is cracking. But I bet you could cross
Memphremagog in one of them trucks they got in the Utah copper mines, where
the size of the tires is two or three times my height (6').

---Uncle Weasel

Giggles Like a Girl

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Jan 3, 2006, 12:17:50 AM1/3/06
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Belarus for just a few days?


>Around here, the ice indeed is cracking. But I bet you could cross
>Memphremagog in one of them trucks they got in the Utah copper mines, where
>the size of the tires is two or three times my height (6').

Sounds like it's time to slice a few blocks for the ice house.

Uncle Weasel

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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 0:17:50 -0500, Giggles Like a Girl wrote
(in message <6ce9$43ba08fe$4038ecbe$12...@PRIMUS.CA>):

>> I just had a phone call that made me crystalize my plans for the month.
>> I'm
>> going home! For a few days, anyway.
>
> Belarus for just a few days?

Alas, not until YKW let's free elections happen. Murkans, even those of
Byelorusskie descent, are lightning rods for whatever he chooses to bitch
about at the time.

And my northern time is apt to be postponed until later in the month, due to
an elderly tenant in the Norwood house moving out.

But there's to be a great Ch'an party in Queeens on the fourteenth, so at
least I get to see Owlbone for a few days.

>> Around here, the ice indeed is cracking. But I bet you could cross
>> Memphremagog in one of them trucks they got in the Utah copper mines,
>> where
>> the size of the tires is two or three times my height (6').
>
> Sounds like it's time to slice a few blocks for the ice house.

A real Temple of Impermanence -- at least until the next ice age.

---Uncle Weasel

--

After considerable thought, I have decided to withhold any further comment
other than the fact that I am withholding comment. I would have withheld that
comment also, but I am withholding the reason why I chose to say anything at
all. Why I am saying this, I will not say. --Sanford Manley, absfg

Evelyn Ruut

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"Uncle Weasel" <x...@woc.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 0:17:50 -0500, Giggles Like a Girl wrote
> (in message <6ce9$43ba08fe$4038ecbe$12...@PRIMUS.CA>):
>
>>> I just had a phone call that made me crystalize my plans for the month.
>>> I'm
>>> going home! For a few days, anyway.
>>
>> Belarus for just a few days?
>
> Alas, not until YKW let's free elections happen. Murkans, even those of
> Byelorusskie descent, are lightning rods for whatever he chooses to bitch
> about at the time.
>
> And my northern time is apt to be postponed until later in the month, due
> to
> an elderly tenant in the Norwood house moving out.
>
> But there's to be a great Ch'an party in Queeens on the fourteenth, so at
> least I get to see Owlbone for a few days.


Give her my best when you do!

Evelyn


Uncle Weasel

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On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 9:54:06 -0500, Evelyn Ruut wrote
(in message <ikRuf.26164$GW1....@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>):

<nasal French accent>
Hunh-HOH!
</nasal French accent>

--

"Do you ever feel like a very sincere pig
in the realm of the hungry ghosts?" -- John Timothy Hall

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