The Picasso Exhibit

[karen]

Guernica was painted in 1937.

Ok, so I don't know art history and I can't read. Sue me.

I saw the exhibit during a school field trip with my son in April.
Sean and his buddy waited outside on the steps of the National Gallery
playing with the Star Wars stuff they'd bought at the Air and Space
Museum while I made a whirlwind dash through the exhibit. There's
not much you can take in in only 10 minutes.

Info on the exhibit for folks in the Baltimore/DC area:

Picasso

The Early Years
1892 - 1906
National Gallery of Art
March 30 - July 27, 1997

karen (I like his later work much better.)
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DY2K!

[karen]

On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:47:48 GMT, ro...@kw.igs.net (RPD.) wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:24:59 GMT , kmc...@mindspring.com (karen) None
>other than my personal best friend.. put forth for our pleasure;

>
>>Guernica was painted in 1937.
>

>the horror of war, the bombing of a small spanish town
>in black and white like a nightmare or front page news

Yes, exactly.

>the fractured perspectives of a cubist fully exploring the emotional
>depth of twisting carnage and suffering

Well said.

>the style itself become the content, compare the intensity of this
>pianting to his three musicians...

Fuck his three musicians. I hate that wimpy garbage.

>to me it illustrates the full potential of the style...cubism was made
>for that moment.

Don't know about that. And didn't it take him three months to
paint?

>no other cubistic works need be painted there after.

:)

>>Ok, so I don't know art history and I can't read. Sue me.
>

>everybody sould go to art school if only for the history.
>the art of a culture or an empire, tells you more about the people and
>than any war journal or code of law.

Ha. I'd love to.

Rpd, my mother is an artist. There are artists and writers and
musicians in my family. It appears that I have missed out on a few
interesting genes. Interest w/o talent = frustration.

(Can you tell that lack of talent is a long-time frustration?)

>>There's not much you can take in in only 10 minutes.
>

>>karen (I like his later work much better.)
>

>ten minutes? looking at originals? original masters works?
>
>thats to bad karen better luck next time.

When you don't have much time
you have to make the best of what you've got.

>i spend half and hour looking at 2x3 repos in my art history
>compendiums

I had a reprint of one of his paintings in my dorm room/apartment(s)
during college. Looked at it for hours. Simple, clean, beautiful.

>you bastards on the east coast have the best collections anywere
>of international art.
>
>you have the rare chance to let the art world come to you.
>buy a book of art history read it, learn a little about these great
>treasures and go see every one.

Sweetie, buy me some time and I'll do it. I promise.

>i think it would be worth it.

Absolutely, totally, non-reservedly agreed.

karen
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DY2K!

[karen]

"Ok, break's over..."

On Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:31:32 GMT, ro...@kw.igs.net (RPD.) wrote:

>>>>cubism was made for that moment.
>

>>YES.
>or no

Or no. I have strong yet flexible opinions on art.

> i have strong yet flexable opions on art.

Hey, whaddaya know!

>and their mine, I don't read others critics and take them as gospel
>i learned how the understand art in stages ..the first step is
>learning the tools of visual artists.
>the visual language.
>
>shape
>colour
>line
>form
>texture
>contrast
>value (light or dark)

OK

Um... Mom did teach me a little bit , sweetie.
And "I don't know art, but I know what I like."

>after that understanding the content (images; what it is) the stlye
>(how is done and the philosophy or technique) and who and when and
>where the artists is and worked (also for who and why) you have all
>you need.
>
>mostly you need only the visual language to apreciate the Genius or
>lack of... the rest fleshs out the historic value.

The rest is icing on the cake, IMO. Same way you needn't study
composition or music apprec to enjoy music.

> (((karen)))

{{{ RPD }}}

(Those are bananas you're giving me, btw. Hugs are curly.)

>going back upstairs..
>
>umm, i was saying cubism was made not for the 3 amigos but the
>revelation of horror as in exploding bull in black and white.
>
>it was not as subtle as other works but if you were going to go
>cubist, a war scene as content goes years farther than a still life or
>figurative work.
>
>i don't understand what you think you didn't get.

I don't understand either.

>duchamps "nude decending a stair case" is the greatest figurative work
>ever, in my barbaric opinion.

I like that piece.

>of coarse i'm the guy that thinks art's done nothing to rivale the
>oldest cave Paintings (petroglyphs) of stags and bulls.
>
>not until the impressionists openned the world to radical artistic
>rebellions and the freedom from patronage did western art flower
>again.
>
>30 thousand years and counting..
>
>i bet the very first family of homo sapien had an artist (like when
>there was only five or six of our race out there.. Art began) (music
>IMO began with things like whale songs and bird calls) and is not
>human in origin.

Maybe them SPACE ALIENS brought it with them... ooooooh, scary!

>art isn't what you do, it's how you do.

I like it. Very good. :)

>some times i think my writing is cubist.

Surreal, baby. Surreal.

So hey, we had zazenkai today at a sangha member's house. This house...
tall, incredibly tall oak trees surrounding it, an older house with a
garden and ivy and a swing. Pure heaven, no doubt about it. Sat
outside during break and looked up through the branches, swinging and
reading the TTC. Not many sounds but the leaves in the breeze (a breeze
in Baltimore in July is a miracle in itself) and birds and the
occasional car driving by. Wonderful.

And I thought about the frustration I felt yesterday, the
all-too-familiar feelings of not being good enough that seem to have
always plagued me and *laughed* when I realized that I very seldom feel
that way anymore. Talked about it later during daisan with Sensei.
This view of the self, the self that's like a bubble, like a dream...
like so many things you can watch it dissolve and fade. Wonderful.

So I got home and actually had dinner with the family, not something
that's been possible lately. After dinner, dug out a sketchpad, found
my old calligraphy set and - hey! - a whole bottle of blue-purple ink
along with the requisite black. Tomorrow I'll ferret out a pen and the
nibs and... oooooh! there's my watercolor set!

So many beginnings, so little time.

And while I was digging around, I found an old piece of paper
with this printed on it:

A Weaver's Prayer

Oh God, the warp you gave me,
My life,
I got it tangled.
I broke some threads, I made mistakes,
I wove too bright a border.

You take the shuttle out of
My hand
And let me rest awhile
And mend my threads, correct my faults
And set it all in order.

- Valborg Gravano

karen (Time to warp a new loom.)

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It's these little things, they can pull you under.
Live your life filled with joy and wonder.
Yea, we were altogether lost in our little lives.
-R.E.M.

[RPD.]

Snips galore..
>> (((karen))) vs {{{ RPD }}}

>(Those are bananas you're giving me, btw. Hugs are curly.)

No it's just a gorilla-like (((squeeze))) (Me primal)

Karen shares her Blue peroid
(snipeth the magic)

>And I thought about the frustration I felt yesterday, the
>all-too-familiar feelings of not being good enough that seem to have
>always plagued me and *laughed* when I realized that I very seldom feel
>that way anymore.

i always felt you were good enough.

and just between you me and the lamp-post;
Peter Watters is the only guy around here that says otherwise...

but he's not that big, you could take'em.

I have faith in you Karen,

Rod---N.Y.W.B.A.P.T.F.N
(not your whipping boy and poison taster for nothing)

thanks for all your wonderful posts.
we all enjoy sharing in the serene vision
you bring to your everyday experiences.

for Karen
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Casting Blossoms

floating petals ebbing on illuminant breeze
whirling amid shivering stretching trees
waving tendrils in evenings cherry glow
as the path tumbles forever freshly below

your skatered petals our steps soothe
on kissed cobblestone calmly smooth
you wander softly in our company
sharing your blossoms
of tranquility

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[Ned Ludd]

In <01bc983f$75f23360$8db0...@SariPC.dias.net> "Trinlay Khadro"
<sa...@ren.dias.net> writes:
>
> HEY! Neither the Art Institute of Chicago, nor the Milwaukee Art
> Museum are anything to sneeze at! And the Milwaukee Public Museum
> is great fun too. (Go to the Chinese collection, and find Queen
> Victoria <it's actually Victorian era Chinese art, not something
> Pre-Victorian that looks like her! Ask Ned!>
>

Yes, hunting for the "Queen Victoria" figurine among the ivories
in the China exhibit is fun. But personally, just before that,
in the Roman exhibit, there is a gorgeous foot-high ivory figurine
of a completely naked young lady, with an Egyptian robe hanging
on her (in un-strategic places) which was actually carved in the
early-mid 1800's, when Europe went ga-ga over Egypt. Absolutely
primo - dream stuff!

Ned

[Trinlay Khadro]

RPD. <ro...@kw.igs.net> wrote in article <5qns0v$94d$1...@news.igs.net>...

> On Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:24:59 GMT , kmc...@mindspring.com (karen) None
>

> >Ok, so I don't know art history and I can't read. Sue me.
>
> everybody sould go to art school if only for the history.
> the art of a culture or an empire, tells you more about the people and
> than any war journal or code of law.
>

actually you don't have to go to "art school" to get a "Survey of Art
History" course.

I actually REALLY enjoyed art history, (ok so i"m an artist with a history
minor...
does that mean anything? ) suddenly a lot of stuff that didn't make much
sense
in plain ol history, took on full color and shape with art history.

It's one thing to read "The French Court had become corrupt and out of
touch
with reality..." It's quite another to see paintings of Noble women
pretending to be
shepardesses... in silk dresses...
suddenly everythings in focus.

while I made a whirlwind dash through the exhibit. There's

> >not much you can take in in only 10 minutes.

10 minutes! for shame!

> ten minutes? looking at originals? original masters works?

They'd need the security people to haul me out at closing time....
"But I'm not DONE yet..."

> you bastards on the east coast have the best collections anywere
> of international art.

HEY! Neither the Art Institute of Chicago, nor the Milwaukee Art Museam are
anything to sneeze at!
And the Milwaukee Public Museam is great fun too. (Go to the Chinese

collection, and find Queen Victoria <it's actually Victorian era Chinese
art, not
something Pre-Victorian that looks like her! Ask Ned!>

>

I LOVE museams! they are cool they are fun! they are full of STUFF....
hmmm. maybe this fall/winter sometime we should do the Art Institute,
and drool over the stone Buddhas.

[JimT]

karen wrote:

> Same way you needn't study
> composition or music apprec to enjoy music.

As a young science student, I didn't know much about music, but I knew
what I liked. My beloved sent me to the Potsdam College (SUTCP, at the
time) music library to get the score of Franck's 'Symphony in D Minor'.
Listening to my favorite record with the score in hand was a whole new
experience! I heard stuff that wasn't there before in a piece I thought
I had committed to memory.

You don't _need_ to, but it helps. Especially with 20th century
composers.

Life magazine once did a piece on Picasso. One of their photogs took
him in a room, gave him a penlight, turned out the lights and opened the
shutter. Picasso drew a butterfly in the dark with the penlight. As he
drew, the photog fired his strobe. Great picture. Picasso in a
half-crouch, holding up a six-foot butterfly with a little stick.

I can't even draw a symmetrical outline that looks like a butterfly when
I can see what I'm doing.

Sighhhhh.

JimT

[steve]

In article <01bc983f$75f23360$8db0...@SariPC.dias.net>, sa...@ren.dias.net
says...

>
>I LOVE museams! they are cool they are fun! they are full of STUFF....
> hmmm. maybe this fall/winter sometime we should do the Art Institute,
>and drool over the stone Buddhas.
>
>

Please do not eat chocolate prior to drooling on the Buddhas.
It leaves a terrible stain.

steve