Tool use among octopi
daletx
http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2009/12/15/2771905.htm
The octopus are carrying around coconut shells to use as "armor".
DT
Wilson
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That was interesting. Thanks Dale.
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Kitty P
That was incredible. Thanks!
Kirsten
I could comment about tool use among humans.
There's no easy way to say it: I just blew 150 bucks on a pocket knife.
You know, I was fairly sure I had the cutting solution thing handled.
To this point, a combination of the Spyderco Bug (1 inch long folder,
very nifty, 8 dollars), an everyday Swiss Army knife (30 dollars), and
the Frosts Mora Clipper (a solid fixed blade knife, 20 dollars) pretty
much met all my needs.
Total expenditure, 60 dollars in change, and capable of covering
everything from opening packaging to creeping around in the wilds.
But then I saw a Fallkniven U1 on a website, and I started to get all
acquisitive and desirous. It folds and it cuts stuff...and that's it.
But it has that Swedish charm and solidity.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27366
Anyway bang went a hundred and fifty bucks.
I'm thinking of replacing the scales with some pink ones. Or more
precisely, making doe eyes at my friend Peter, and getting him to do it.
Maybe in exchange for beer.
Oh well, I thought I'd share.
Best wishes
Kirsten
DT
While it would probably be excellent for opening coconuts, I doubt if
your well-dressed octopus will be carrying them anytime soon. They
ain't got no pockets.
Plus, I'm bettin' they'd have a hard time raising 150 bucks...
Other than that, it looks like an excellent piece of hardware.
http://snipurl.com/tq0yq
Tell me more about the Mora; they're dang cheap now that they're
"Frosts/Mora". Mora had a great reputation for many years; still good
stuff? This was (is) one of their classics: http://tinyurl.com/yeat65h
DT
Love
>
>Heard about this on NPR yesterday morning, an Aussie friend send me a link.
>http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2009/12/15/2771905.htm
>
>The octopus are carrying around coconut shells to use as "armor".
Saw a whole doc on the tube one day about octopi and squid. I
forget which one it was but it figured out how to open a jar.
And it turns out they are social too. Kitties of the sea maybe?
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May Shai-Hulud clear the path before you.
herbzet
Yes -- very nice-looking quality pocket knife. The stock
scales look good to me, at least in the pictures. Pink,
not so much, I think.
The owner of Fallkniven is trying to sell the business, due to
his poor health, so the knife may acquire some value as a
collectors item, eventually:
http://www.britishblades.com/home/index.php [at bottom of webpage]
> Tell me more about the Mora; they're dang cheap now that they're
> "Frosts/Mora". Mora had a great reputation for many years; still good
> stuff? This was (is) one of their classics: http://tinyurl.com/yeat65h
Yeah, they seem a ridiculously good value, from what I read.
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bonfils
news:PbWdnfNEj7rNy7TW...@giganews.com:
> I could comment about tool use among humans.
>
> There's no easy way to say it: I just blew 150 bucks on a pocket
> knife.
>
> You know, I was fairly sure I had the cutting solution thing handled.
>
> To this point, a combination of the Spyderco Bug (1 inch long folder,
> very nifty, 8 dollars), an everyday Swiss Army knife (30 dollars), and
> the Frosts Mora Clipper (a solid fixed blade knife, 20 dollars) pretty
> much met all my needs.
>
> Total expenditure, 60 dollars in change, and capable of covering
> everything from opening packaging to creeping around in the wilds.
>
> But then I saw a Fallkniven U1 on a website, and I started to get all
> acquisitive and desirous. It folds and it cuts stuff...and that's it.
> But it has that Swedish charm and solidity.
> http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27366
>
> Anyway bang went a hundred and fifty bucks.
>
> I'm thinking of replacing the scales with some pink ones. Or more
> precisely, making doe eyes at my friend Peter, and getting him to do
> it. Maybe in exchange for beer.
>
> Oh well, I thought I'd share.
What? No Leatherman?
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Kirsten
>
> Other than that, it looks like an excellent piece of hardware.
> http://snipurl.com/tq0yq
>
> Tell me more about the Mora; they're dang cheap now that they're
> "Frosts/Mora". Mora had a great reputation for many years; still good
> stuff? This was (is) one of their classics: http://tinyurl.com/yeat65h
>
> DT
>
Come to my arms! I knew you'd understand.
The Frosts Moras (at least the two I own) are very solid, robust, hold
an edge well and easy to sharpen.
The scabbards are typically a bit plasticy and tacky, but I must say
with the Clipper I like the scabbard and the Kraton-type handle works
really well.
I'm not looking around for another fixed bladed knife, I must say.
Best wishes
Kirsten
Lee Rudolph
>I started to get all
>acquisitive and desirous. It folds and it cuts stuff...and that's it.
>But it has that Swedish charm and solidity.
Are you channeling Tiger Woods?
Lee Rudolph
Beerlet Dhiblang
> "daletx" <dal...@gnusguy.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hgaj6...@news1.newsguy.com...
>
> > Heard about this on NPR yesterday morning, an Aussie friend send me a
> > link.
> >http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2009/12/15/2771905.htm
>
> > The octopus are carrying around coconut shells to use as "armor".
>
> > DT
>
> That was interesting. Thanks Dale.
>
> --
Years ago on Cousteau's show they demonstrated a little Octopus
unscrewing the lid of a glass jar to get to a little shrimp. What was
cool was that the little guy solved it in no time flat.
/l
Wilson
"Beerlet Dhiblang" <dodeca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'd forgotten about that! Amazing stuff. People wonder what it would be
like to meet an intelligent life-form from another world. Meanwhile they
are missing the ones we have right here.
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DT
Hm, that post's five years old. I wonder how Mr. Hjortberger's doing today?
DT
DT
"Not looking around for another" sounds like a pretty good
recommendation to me! Sounds like you won't be looking around for a
fixed *or* a folder for quite some time.
Found this guy splitting firewood with his Mora:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbE8kaCwpI
And a young man positively *gushing* over his woodcarving knife:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3P1eosaK7o
I'm sure the Fallkniven will be an absolute delight every time you flick
it open. I have a tendency to be a little, um, rough on tools,
sometimes, so my tastes tend to run toward the high-quality but
low-dollar stuff.
DT
Beerlet Dhiblang
> "Beerlet Dhiblang" <dodecapus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I know I am.....
/l
DT
And yet there are so many bipeds walking around, which look like they
should be intelligent life forms, but aren't...
DT
Wilson
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You are too harsh. Just because a bunch of those bipeds are angry thieving
power-mongers is no reason ... uhm, never mind.
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Kirsten
>
> "Not looking around for another" sounds like a pretty good
> recommendation to me! Sounds like you won't be looking around for a
> fixed *or* a folder for quite some time.
>
> Found this guy splitting firewood with his Mora:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbE8kaCwpI
>
> And a young man positively *gushing* over his woodcarving knife:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3P1eosaK7o
>
> I'm sure the Fallkniven will be an absolute delight every time you flick
> it open. I have a tendency to be a little, um, rough on tools,
> sometimes, so my tastes tend to run toward the high-quality but
> low-dollar stuff.
>
> DT
For this spring/summer's walking on the South Downs and Cotswolds, I
think I have all the gear I need for sure.
I like my walking gear to earn its keep between wanderings, so the
Frosts and the Fallkniven will be assigned to kitchen duty betweentimes.
If I am really honest, though, the knife I use every day is this one:
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=374
It has defeated every single CD package, box tie or cereal box it has
encountered.
I bought it after realising the blade I used on the Swiss Army knife was
the smallest one.
Best wishes
Kirsten
DT
Same here; I'm "saving" the big blade. I let you know what I'm saving
it *for*, once I figure it out...
DT
herbzet
Oops -- didn't notice the date; good catch.
Looks like Mr. Hjortberger's ok and decided not to sell:
http://www.fallkniven.com/en/aboutus
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daletx
Hey, a couple of 'em are kinda cute, for knifesmiths.
Even though they're smiling, they all seem to have very serious-looking
eyebrows and foreheads. Swedish national characteristic? Family trait?
DT
herbzet
> herbzet wrote:
>
> > DT wrote:
> >> herbzet wrote:
> >>> DT wrote:
> >>>> Kirsten wrote:
> >>>>> daletx wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Heard about this on NPR yesterday morning, an Aussie friend send me a
> >>>>>> link.
> >>>>>>http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2009/12/15/2771905.htm
>
> >>>>>> The octopus are carrying around coconut shells to use as "armor".
>
> >>>>>> DT
> >>>>> I could comment about tool use among humans.
>
> >>>>> There's no easy way to say it: I just blew 150 bucks on a pocket knife.
>
> >>>>> You know, I was fairly sure I had the cutting solution thing handled.
>
> >>>>> To this point, a combination of the Spyderco Bug (1 inch long folder,
> >>>>> very nifty, 8 dollars), an everyday Swiss Army knife (30 dollars), and
> >>>>> the Frosts Mora Clipper (a solid fixed blade knife, 20 dollars) pretty
> >>>>> much met all my needs.
>
> >>>>> Total expenditure, 60 dollars in change, and capable of covering
> >>>>> everything from opening packaging to creeping around in the wilds.
>
> >>>>> acquisitive and desirous. It folds and it cuts stuff...and that's it.
> >>>>> But it has that Swedish charm and solidity.
> >>>>>http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27366
>
> >>>>> Anyway bang went a hundred and fifty bucks.
>
> >>>>> I'm thinking of replacing the scales with some pink ones. Or more
> >>>>> precisely, making doe eyes at my friend Peter, and getting him to do it.
> >>>>> Maybe in exchange for beer.
>
> >>>>> Oh well, I thought I'd share.
>
> >>>>> Best wishes
> >>>>> Kirsten
> >>>> While it would probably be excellent for opening coconuts, I doubt if
> >>>> your well-dressed octopus will be carrying them anytime soon. They
> >>>> ain't got no pockets.
>
> >>>> Plus, I'm bettin' they'd have a hard time raising 150 bucks...
>
> >>>> Other than that, it looks like an excellent piece of hardware.
> >>>>http://snipurl.com/tq0yq
> >>> Yes -- very nice-looking quality pocket knife. The stock
> >>> scales look good to me, at least in the pictures. Pink,
> >>> not so much, I think.
>
> >>> his poor health, so the knife may acquire some value as a
> >>> collectors item, eventually:
>
> >>>http://www.britishblades.com/home/index.php[at bottom of webpage]
> >> Hm, that post's five years old. I wonder how Mr. Hjortberger's doing today?
>
> > Oops -- didn't notice the date; good catch.
>
> > Looks like Mr. Hjortberger's ok and decided not to sell:
>
> >http://www.fallkniven.com/en/aboutus
>
> Hey, a couple of 'em are kinda cute, for knifesmiths.
>
> Even though they're smiling, they all seem to have very serious-looking
> eyebrows and foreheads. Swedish national characteristic? Family trait?
Probably habitual squinting from all that midnight sun.
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