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Me

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Mar 5, 2023, 5:06:45 PM3/5/23
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... by Norfolk Southern Railway.
Yes, that same railroad as in East Palestine, Ohio.
While there was no spillage, this clearly shows that Norfolk Southern Railway is way over-regulated, and needs all its safety rules removed.
Only by removing all federal oversight and letting Norfolk Southern do whatever they deem best, can we guarantee that there will be no further derailments.
Right, Wilson?
Federal rules say that any bearing that shows visible oil leakage must be repaired. Norfolk Southern supervisors told their inspectors that this means only if oil is actually dripping onto the track. Clearly, this is insufficient. Bearings should only be scheduled to be repaired within a month or so, if they visibly glow in the dark, or throw sparks at speed.

Wilson

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Mar 5, 2023, 6:13:47 PM3/5/23
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Our Transportation Secretary has said it's no big deal, happens all the
time!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11760173/There-roughly-1-000-cases-year-train-derailing-Pete-Buttigieg-says.html


Noah Sombrero

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Mar 5, 2023, 7:26:16 PM3/5/23
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How about the guardian or the spectator. Either of those confirm that
report? Anybody in the states?

Anyway, your interest to is in discrediting government agencies. You
really have no interest in responding to me, right?
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Noah Sombrero

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Mar 5, 2023, 8:10:53 PM3/5/23
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 19:26:14 -0500, Noah Sombrero <fed...@fea.st>
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The other me, that is.
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Me

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Mar 5, 2023, 9:55:34 PM3/5/23
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I just realize that i was falling into that old trap again, arguing with irrational people such as flat earthers and/or Republicans (often the same).
I'll stop now.

Noah Sombrero

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Mar 5, 2023, 11:24:32 PM3/5/23
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 18:55:32 -0800 (PST), Me <bp54...@gmail.com>
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I felt a lot more sure about that in the days of art bell when my dad
used to listen to him. He's my dad and he can believe what he wants,
I didn't see any harm in it, so let it go.

But times have changed. The liars have succeeded in electing a
president.

It is annoying that democracy takes constant tending to. Why can't
government simply do its job and leave me to my amusements? Mainly it
is a matter of how politics is one of the main jobs for functional
psychopaths, I think. People used to think of it as letting the best
(wo)man win (it is interesting how you don't hear that in sports
anymore either). Now, politics has degenerated to a naked struggle
for power. And, by the way, the olympics has become very big business
indeed.

I think what is going on now in israel is instructive for us who are
tired of constantly holding our thumbs in the holes in the dikes of
our democracy.

So, I think it is good that I, ned, love, each from our own viewpoint,
remind wilson from time to time that he is not fooling anybody. He
needs to know that, and he is smart enough to know it whereas some
flat earthers aren't. Even if he is very careful to not allow himself
to be convinced of anything.
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Me

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Mar 6, 2023, 12:57:25 AM3/6/23
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It's scary what's going on there. Right-wingers in both countries are going in exactly the same direction, except there, they're a little further ahead because they're in power. The difference is in the degree of success, not in direction or intention though.

> So, I think it is good that I, ned, love, each from our own viewpoint,
> remind wilson from time to time that he is not fooling anybody. He
> needs to know that, and he is smart enough to know it whereas some
> flat earthers aren't. Even if he is very careful to not allow himself
> to be convinced of anything.

One of my character flaws is that occasionally, i debate irrational people until i catch myself
It's just so difficult for me to understand how someone can believe absolute nonsense and be totally impervious to reason.
I believe that Wilson actually believes the crap he spouts; it's not an act. Just like the flat-earthers.
Just try it. Go on Fakebook, subscribe to a science and astronomy forum, and start reading the comments on the science posts. Sure, there are some obvious trolls and fakes, but there are plenty of serious, sincere posters who absolutely believe that the only purpose of NASA is this gigantic effort to keep up the myth of a round earth and to indoctrinate us "globetards". It's that sincerity that will blow you away.
I see that same sincerity in our right-wingers, who also value belief above facts.
Compare "there never have been satellites, and there never will be" - and - "killings are taking place at a number like nobody’s ever seen, right in Manhattan."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/05/politics/fact-check-trump-cpac/index.html

Noah Sombrero

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Mar 6, 2023, 9:13:20 AM3/6/23
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 21:57:24 -0800 (PST), Me <bp54...@gmail.com>
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Netanyahu is under investigation for corruption, yet people continue
to put him in office. His response is to hamstring the courts. Much
as himbo would like to do. Part of the problem for israel and the us
is that it has taken so long to actually mount a prosecution, giving
the perps time to construct an evasion of the whole issue. And himbo
says he will run even if he is prosecuted. Of course he will.

The difference is that Netanyahu is perfectly sane (aside from being a
wannabe dictator). He is much more competent to accomplish his goals
than a narcissist.

>> So, I think it is good that I, ned, love, each from our own viewpoint,
>> remind wilson from time to time that he is not fooling anybody. He
>> needs to know that, and he is smart enough to know it whereas some
>> flat earthers aren't. Even if he is very careful to not allow himself
>> to be convinced of anything.
>
>One of my character flaws is that occasionally, i debate irrational people until i catch myself
>It's just so difficult for me to understand how someone can believe absolute nonsense and be totally impervious to reason.
>I believe that Wilson actually believes the crap he spouts; it's not an act. Just like the flat-earthers.

The thing wilson has that they lack is a clear agenda around what he
wants and how to get it. The message is, it isn't going to work,
wilson. He is capable of seeing that.

>Just try it. Go on Fakebook, subscribe to a science and astronomy forum, and start reading the comments on the science posts. Sure, there are some obvious trolls and fakes, but there are plenty of serious, sincere posters who absolutely believe that the only purpose of NASA is this gigantic effort to keep up the myth of a round earth and to indoctrinate us "globetards". It's that sincerity that will blow you away.

I have no doubt.

>I see that same sincerity in our right-wingers, who also value belief above facts.
>Compare "there never have been satellites, and there never will be" - and - "killings are taking place at a number like nobody’s ever seen, right in Manhattan."
>
>https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/05/politics/fact-check-trump-cpac/index.html

All that does is contribute to how himbo manages to keep himself
continually in the news by continually being outrageous. Don't fall
for it cnn.
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Wilson

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Mar 6, 2023, 1:51:11 PM3/6/23
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You two are quite the act. You should take it on the road.


Noah Sombrero

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Mar 6, 2023, 3:08:53 PM3/6/23
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You have no worthwhile response, right?
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Wilson

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Mar 6, 2023, 5:30:37 PM3/6/23
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To what? Fiction? Why bother?


Noah Sombrero

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Mar 6, 2023, 6:48:14 PM3/6/23
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What you mean is that you have no effective responses.

I can find worthwhile responses to your fiction. And believe me, that
is what it is. But I give you the best I can deliver, even though
there are more articulate people than me here.
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