Large Hardon Goes Down Again.
Ned Ludd
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/lhc_power_failure_again/
I think we now have a firm basis for understanding why all this
is happening: "...the involvement of some pan-dimensional police
force, seeking to prevent humanity acquiring parallel-universe
portal capability before we're ready to use it responsibly."
Ned
Keynes
If there were a portal to parallel universes,
the earth would soon be depopulated.
DT
That's been up for two hours and Ned hasn't sneered at you yet?
The earth would NOT be depopulated; the parallel universes would be
overpopulated, and the human race would just continue to breed to
capacity. And slightly beyond.
DT
Ned Ludd
"DT" <dal...@gnusguy.com> wrote in message
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>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/lhc_power_failure_again/
>>> I think we now have a firm basis for understanding why all this is
>>> happening: "...the involvement of some pan-dimensional police force,
>>> seeking to prevent humanity acquiring parallel-universe portal
>>> capability before we're ready to use it responsibly."
>>> Ned
>>
>> If there were a portal to parallel universes,
>> the earth would soon be depopulated.
>
> That's been up for two hours and Ned hasn't sneered at you yet?
> The earth would NOT be depopulated; the parallel universes would be
> overpopulated, and the human race would just continue to breed to
> capacity. And slightly beyond.
> DT
>
Uh-huh, but what if everybody picked the same parallel universe
to go to? What if all the Ned's from all the universes got together
in the same universe? What then?
Ned
DT
Oooh, scary thought! Curmudgeonworld, just you'n'me, in endless
iterations, constantly bickering as to how, even though we'd obviously
chosen the best of all possible universes, it could be better if only...
DT
Kitty P
Dale Dale Dale - the glass is half-empty? With a lot of Neds in the same
universe it would means there would be boundless amounts of good beer in
that time and space.
Kitty
Benjamin
Plus, I happen to know that in real life, Ned is calm, friendly, and can
levitate. I'm sure there's a curmudgeon in there still, but hard to find.
Ben (sorry to blow your cover man)
Ned Ludd
"Benjamin" <eggplan...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/lhc_power_failure_again/
>>>>>>> I think we now have a firm basis for understanding why all this is
>>>>>>> happening: "...the involvement of some pan-dimensional police force,
>>>>>>> seeking to prevent humanity acquiring parallel-universe portal
>>>>>>> capability before we're ready to use it responsibly."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the earth would soon be depopulated.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's been up for two hours and Ned hasn't sneered at you yet?
>>>>> The earth would NOT be depopulated; the parallel universes would be
>>>>> overpopulated, and the human race would just continue to breed to
>>>>> capacity. And slightly beyond.
>>>>> DT
>>>>
>>>> Uh-huh, but what if everybody picked the same parallel universe
>>>> to go to? What if all the Ned's from all the universes got together
>>>> in the same universe? What then?
>>>> Ned
>>>
>>> Oooh, scary thought! Curmudgeonworld, just you'n'me, in endless
>>> iterations, constantly bickering as to how, even though we'd obviously
>>> chosen the best of all possible universes, it could be better if only...
>>> DT
>
>> Dale Dale Dale - the glass is half-empty? With a lot of Neds in the same
>> universe it would means there would be boundless amounts of good beer
>> in that time and space.
>> Kitty
>
> Plus, I happen to know that in real life, Ned is calm, friendly, and can
> levitate. I'm sure there's a curmudgeon in there still, but hard to find.
> Ben (sorry to blow your cover man)
>
Oh, that. Trick o' the light. Something I learned from Rama. (And
you do need a 60-foot skate-board ramp.)
As for the all-Ned universe... Whom the Gods would destroy, they
first give bad real estate.
Ned
Kirsten
All of this has happened before, all of it will happen again.
Not an ending, but a beginning.
Best wishes
Kirsten
Ned Ludd
"Kirsten" <kir...@dontspamplz.com> wrote in message
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I really gotta rent those remaining 70 episodes in BG.
Ned
bonfils
9b4rWnZ2dn...@earthlink.com:
> Uh-huh, but what if everybody picked the same parallel universe
> to go to? What if all the Ned's from all the universes got together
> in the same universe? What then?
Oh, I'd definitely want to go there.
Not sure how long I'd like to stay, but I'd sure as hell want to visit...
--
bonfils
http://kim.bonfils.com
To send me a massage, please remove your.underwear
zenworm
is not the fear
of the amassing of the Neds
precisely the reason the universes
were divided in the first place?
ZN ;D
jubilation for no reason owned by no one
Ned Ludd
"bonfils" <k...@bonfils.your.underwear.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Uh-huh, but what if everybody picked the same parallel universe
>> to go to? What if all the Ned's from all the universes got together
>> in the same universe? What then?
>
> Oh, I'd definitely want to go there.
> Not sure how long I'd like to stay, but I'd sure as hell want to visit...
> --
> bonfils
>
I'll drive the tour bus. We'll get all the parallel London-Neds
to bring one through the portal from 'the Big Smoke', one of those
old red double-decker buses that are open on top.
I'll show all you touristas the major sights in Nedland - the
brewery, the ale house, and of course the infirmary, which will
have to contain a fairly large out-patient clinic, since you can
only get to Nedland by going through the Large Hardon Collider.
Our crack team of young Scandinavian nurses will see that you
get patched up and fluffed up in no time at all.
Then it's off to the High School cheerleaders' Glee club, where
you will learn to sing our nation anthem, Nedlandia, from your
own personal teen-age singing coach.
Once you've been musically indoctrinated into the ways of Nedland,
you'll then been assigned one of the cheerleaders as your guide
for the duration of your stay.
As you say, a nice place to visit...
Ned
Keynes
If there are cheerleaders, your world is redeemed.
Lectures ok. But cheerleaders before and after.
Sign me up.
Ned Ludd
"Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
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OK! Report to the Hardon Smasher at once.
Ned
Hidden Draggin
>> Lectures ok. But cheerleaders before and after.
>> Sign me up.
>>
>
> OK! Report to the Hardon Smasher at once.
>
> Ned
Pleased to see my meme of Large "Hardon" Collider has caught on.
Brings images of penis fencing.
"ENGUARD!"
--
Hidden Draggin - Gilbert Hansford
Don't join dangerous cults, practice safe sects!
http://twitter.com/hiddendraggin
http://hiddendraggin.posterous.com/
zenworm
'images' or memories?
Hidden Draggin
> On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, "Hidden Draggin" <a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ned Ludd wrote:
>> > "Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
>> >> If there are cheerleaders, your world is redeemed.
>> >> Lectures ok. But cheerleaders before and after.
>> >> Sign me up.
>>
>> > OK! Report to the Hardon Smasher at once.
>>
>> > Ned
>>
>> Pleased to see my meme of Large "Hardon" Collider has caught on.
>> Brings images of penis fencing.
>>
>> "ENGUARD!"
>
>
Images....straight.
--
Hidden Draggin - Gilbert Hansford
brian mitchell
wrote:
>zenworm wrote:
>> On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, "Hidden Draggin" <a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ned Ludd wrote:
>>> > "Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
>>> >> If there are cheerleaders, your world is redeemed.
>>> >> Lectures ok. But cheerleaders before and after.
>>> >> Sign me up.
>>>
>>> > OK! Report to the Hardon Smasher at once.
>>>
>>> > Ned
>>>
>>> Pleased to see my meme of Large "Hardon" Collider has caught on.
>>> Brings images of penis fencing.
>>>
>>> "ENGUARD!"
>>
>>
>> 'images' or memories?
>
>Images....straight.
Many years ago at the Edinburgh fringe festival I saw a brilliant mime
involving fencing penises. The phalluses were about three feet long
and striped like barber poles and the combatants kept their hands
behind their backs throughout. Got to fight by the rules.
(images and memories)
Ned Ludd
"Hidden Draggin" <an...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ned Ludd wrote:
>> "Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
>
>>> If there are cheerleaders, your world is redeemed.
>>> Lectures ok. But cheerleaders before and after.
>>> Sign me up.
>>
>> OK! Report to the Hardon Smasher at once.
>> Ned
>
> Pleased to see my meme of Large "Hardon" Collider has caught on.
> Brings images of penis fencing.
> "ENGUARD!"
> --
> Hidden Draggin - Gilbert Hansford
>
You can't avoid the hardon. It shall be known as this for ever
afterward. It is the extreme of hubris, pride and vainglory in the
puny, incompetent, dysfunctional rabble known as man. The
scientists themselves are calling it the "God Particle"!! They
deserve their micro-black-holes! They deserve their Stranglet!
They deserve all the embarrassment that their ignorance brings
on them!
The great emptiness of the unknown is continually filled with
the ridiculous speculations of the raving idiots of determinism.
The large HARDON collider is the ultimate expression of this.
Ned
Hidden Draggin
Hard Core, Ned!
--
Hidden Draggin - Gilbert Hansford
Kitty P
"Ned Ludd" <ned...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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*footnote: See Brian Mitchell's memory of mime fencing
daletx
Mime fencing is a wonderful idea; keeps 'em away from the rest of us.
And the best part is that you can't even hear 'em yelling for help.
DT
Beerlet Dhiblang
> "Hidden Draggin" <a...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I read a statement that if the big Hardon Collier finds evidence for
the Higgs boson that it would be worse than finding evidence against
it. If the universe is carried on the Higgs Turtle then the universe
is illogical just like the standard model.
/l
Beerlet Dhiblang
> Ned Ludd wrote:
> They deserve their micro-black-holes!
> > large HARDON collider
>
> Hard Core, Ned!
And he wrote micro-black-hole & hardon in the same paragraph w/out
even an aside or an apology ...
/l
Ned Ludd
"Beerlet Dhiblang" <dodeca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>> The great emptiness of the unknown is continually filled with
>> the ridiculous speculations of the raving idiots of determinism.
>> The large HARDON collider is the ultimate expression of this.
>> Ned
>
> I read a statement that if the big Hardon Collier finds evidence
> for the Higgs boson that it would be worse than finding evidence
> against it. If the universe is carried on the Higgs Turtle then
> the universe is illogical just like the standard model.
> /l
>
How Buddhist. Riding the Higgs Turtle. We should draw one.
Late Indian maybe, or even Tibetan. Lot of color. Intricate
ornamentation.
Every time we said we had a 'smallest particle' we were
wrong. EVERY time, up to the list we have now, which I guess
just reduces to 'strings', if you follow the latest paradigm.
Where's my Higgs poem?
Ned
Ah...
TITANOMACHY
"We don't murder our fathers enough.
That's why we're going extinct." - MMT 11/07
The Higgs boson is at hand!
As sure as Saturn castrated Uranus,
as sure as Jupiter cast down Saturn,
the Higgs boson is at hand.
Satan failed in a similar effort,
himself cast out to a darkened land,
though great God Jah is little comfort,
the Higgs boson is at hand.
From God's blood rose a race of giants,
from God's brow sprang the Queen of Love,
when God wed Memory, came the Muses,
while Jah stayed safely throned above.
On earth there moiled a people chosen,
elect and proud from ancient days,
yet only we will find the boson
worthy of eternal praise.
The tribes of Jah await the coming,
one last mortal resurrection -
dark world's dire and sure undoing,
Evil's final, dread destruction.
While we pagans toss and teeter,
lone and lost by black abyss,
waiting out the withering weather,
for a boson, name of Higgs.
- Ned
Beerlet Dhiblang
> "Beerlet Dhiblang" <dodecapus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c4a4c7f1-e171-4714...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >> The great emptiness of the unknown is continually filled with
> >> the ridiculous speculations of the raving idiots of determinism.
> >> The large HARDON collider is the ultimate expression of this.
> >> Ned
>
> > I read a statement that if the big Hardon Collier finds evidence
> > for the Higgs boson that it would be worse than finding evidence
> > against it. If the universe is carried on the Higgs Turtle then
> > the universe is illogical just like the standard model.
> > /l
>
> How Buddhist. Riding the Higgs Turtle. We should draw one.
> Late Indian maybe, or even Tibetan. Lot of color. Intricate
> ornamentation.
>
> Every time we said we had a 'smallest particle' we were
> wrong. EVERY time, up to the list we have now, which I guess
> just reduces to 'strings', if you follow the latest paradigm.
And what would those strings be comprised of?
Never mind we haven't any instrumentation that can directly observe
anything smaller than those ...
The holy grail of all this is a grand unified theory that works, that
explains things that work in the lab but we haven't a good explanation
for, such as entanglement, FTL pulses and superpositioning.
My own Sci-fi WAG is that paradoxes of entanglement, weak gravity and
dark matter & energy may lead to the discovery of large
extradimensional spaces, where dark energy & dark matter turn out to
be giant galaxies sitting in the adjacent trans-D spaces to our own.
One of your best.
Ned Ludd
>
>>> I read a statement that if the big Hardon Collier finds evidence
>>> for the Higgs boson that it would be worse than finding evidence
>>> against it. If the universe is carried on the Higgs Turtle then
>>> the universe is illogical just like the standard model.
>>> /l
>>
>> How Buddhist. Riding the Higgs Turtle. We should draw one.
>> Late Indian maybe, or even Tibetan. Lot of color. Intricate
>> ornamentation.
>> Every time we said we had a 'smallest particle' we were
>> wrong. EVERY time, up to the list we have now, which I guess
>> just reduces to 'strings', if you follow the latest paradigm.
>
> And what would those strings be comprised of?
>
Emptiness. Would that end the game?
> Never mind we haven't any instrumentation that can directly observe
> anything smaller than those ...
> The holy grail of all this is a grand unified theory that works, that
> explains things that work in the lab but we haven't a good explanation
> for, such as entanglement, FTL pulses and superpositioning.
> My own Sci-fi WAG is that paradoxes of entanglement, weak gravity and
> dark matter & energy may lead to the discovery of large
> extradimensional spaces, where dark energy & dark matter turn out to
> be giant galaxies sitting in the adjacent trans-D spaces to our own.
>
Something's got to give. And I would imagine it would begin with
something small and obvious. The constancy of the speed of light
led to mind-crunching implications which stood physics on its head.
No fancy stuff like Michelson-Morley etc. was needed, just Einstein
sitting in room, thinking about what it meant that light couldn't
be made to go faster than a certain constant.
I think the same thing must be involved with black holes. They
are just impossible. What is the density at the center of a black
hole? What does Physics say about matter or energy at densities
such as that?
Anyway, the crazy talk continues to mount, as the wall of the
standard model gets plastered with wilder and wilder gobs of
intellectual spackling.
Ned
Wilson
Thanks Ned! I was hoping someone would repost that poem. It seems I
remember another one you wrote about CERN and the Collider, referencing
Satan and the undoing of the world. Or am misremembering it?
Also, I just did a search on your "Fathers" quote that starts the poem above
and couldn't find any reference in the interwebs except for your poem.
Nicely self-recursive if you ask me.
"We're all bosons on this bus."
-Don
--
Wilson
http://puddinheadwilson.tumblr.com
Ned Ludd
"Wilson" <Wil...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> ...
>> The tribes of Jah await the coming,
>> one last mortal resurrection -
>> dark world's dire and sure undoing,
>> Evil's final, dread destruction.
>>
>> While we pagans toss and teeter,
>> lone and lost by black abyss,
>> waiting out the withering weather,
>> for a boson, name of Higgs.
>>
>> - Ned
>
> Thanks Ned! I was hoping someone would repost that poem. It seems I
> remember another one you wrote about CERN and
> the Collider, referencing Satan and the undoing of the world. Or am
> misremembering it?
>
I think this is the only one I've written about the collider.
The one right after this did refer to Satan and the Devil, and
the 'inversion' of the world in the time between the solstice
and new year, but it was a standard (for me) Christmas poem,
called "The Abyss".
> Also, I just did a search on your "Fathers" quote that starts the poem
> above and couldn't find any reference in the interwebs except for your
> poem. Nicely self-recursive if you ask me.
>
Ha, that's a Mary quote. And I don't know how she came up
with it (because her nature is nowhere near that cynical). I
had read the first few lines of the poem to her before doing
any more work on it (about the mythic Titanomachy), and she
came up with that, so I put it at the top of the poem.
> "We're all bosons on this bus."
> -Don
>
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- Don Shepherd
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Ned
Hidden Draggin
That is a TIGHT FIT!
Hidden Draggin
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> It is truly amazing how modern technology can shrink a ball
> and chain to the size of a device that fits in your pocket.
> - Don Shepherd
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
I miss D'on. :(
--
Hidden Draggin - Gilbert Hansford
Kitty P
> Ned Ludd wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> It is truly amazing how modern technology can shrink a ball
>> and chain to the size of a device that fits in your pocket.
>> - Don Shepherd
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I miss D'on. :(
>
me too
Beerlet Dhiblang
> "Beerlet Dhiblang" <dodecapus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> >>> I read a statement that if the big Hardon Collier finds evidence
> >>> for the Higgs boson that it would be worse than finding evidence
> >>> against it. If the universe is carried on the Higgs Turtle then
> >>> the universe is illogical just like the standard model.
> >>> /l
>
> >> How Buddhist. Riding the Higgs Turtle. We should draw one.
> >> Late Indian maybe, or even Tibetan. Lot of color. Intricate
> >> ornamentation.
> >> Every time we said we had a 'smallest particle' we were
> >> wrong. EVERY time, up to the list we have now, which I guess
> >> just reduces to 'strings', if you follow the latest paradigm.
>
> > And what would those strings be comprised of?
>
> Emptiness. Would that end the game?
Pretty much.
Which is all there is. The universe is form and emptiness, its own
observer, its own experience, its own observer mind (no woo).
Emptiness is a field.
> > Never mind we haven't any instrumentation that can directly observe
> > anything smaller than those ...
> > The holy grail of all this is a grand unified theory that works, that
> > explains things that work in the lab but we haven't a good explanation
> > for, such as entanglement, FTL pulses and superpositioning.
> > My own Sci-fi WAG is that paradoxes of entanglement, weak gravity and
> > dark matter & energy may lead to the discovery of large
> > extradimensional spaces, where dark energy & dark matter turn out to
> > be giant galaxies sitting in the adjacent trans-D spaces to our own.
>
> Something's got to give. And I would imagine it would begin with
> something small and obvious. The constancy of the speed of light
> led to mind-crunching implications which stood physics on its head.
> No fancy stuff like Michelson-Morley etc. was needed, just Einstein
> sitting in room, thinking about what it meant that light couldn't
> be made to go faster than a certain constant.
Yep.
And even then to explain it he added extra spatial dimensions.
Time dilation where experience is fixed but stretched thin into the
future against an external frame. Contiguous yet discontiguous?
Experience and emptiness are contiguous no matter what nonsense a life
form might mentate otherwise. Experience is empty.
The strange constraints of space-time must be built on a lattice
beyond our own measure.
> I think the same thing must be involved with black holes. They
> are just impossible. What is the density at the center of a black
> hole? What does Physics say about matter or energy at densities
> such as that?
The information is still there, mass and gravity.
Kirsten
I use that quote all the time, and always credit Don with it.
Best wishes
Kirsten