Excerpt from "The Buddha Speaks"
willytex
could
fetch his younger brother to join the order. Delighted, the Buddha
agreed.
But the younger brother, although kind and gentle, turned out to be
slow
and dull witted. He could understand nothing of his studies and asked
to
go home so that he wouldn't waste the Buddha's time or let down his
brother.
"There's no need for you to give up," said the Buddha. "You should
not
abandon your search for liberation just because you seem to yourself
to
be thick witted. You can drop all the philosophy you've been given
and
repeat a mantra instead - one that I will now give you."
He gave the young monk a mantra and sent him away affectionately.
But soon the monk was back, this time even more humiliated. "My
beloved Buddha, I can't remember the mantra you gave me and so I can
no longer practice."
The Buddha kindly repeated it for him. But twice more he came back,
having forgotten it each time. So the Buddha gave him a simplified
form.
But when this too slipped completely out of his mind, he hardly dared
visit the Buddha again. "There's an even shorter version," the Buddha
told him, with a smile, "It's just one syllable. See if you can
remember
that." But he could not.
In his hut, he broke down and wept. His brother found him and was
furious, feeling that his own reputation was now sullied. He told the
young monk to go home, and so the boy left the hut and sadly made his
way along the path. As he neared a grove of trees, he met the Buddha
coming from it.
The Buddha smiled and took his hand. Together they went to a temple
where two old monks were sweeping the floor. The Buddha said to
them: "This young monk will live here with you from now on.
Continue your sweeping, and as your brooms move back and forth,
listen and be aware of the sound of the broom as you sweep. "Don't
stop until I come back."
The young monk sat down and listened to the movement of the
brooms, to and fro over the floor. He heard the whispered rhythm of
the mantra as it was repeated over and over again. This went on for
many weeks, and before the Buddha came back, the young monk
had found full enlightenment and so had the two old monks (47).
Work Cited:
"The Buddha Speaks"
Author of 'Zen: Direct Pointing to Reality.'
Shambhala Publications, 2000
Chapter on Clarity
Lee Rudolph
>The Buddha smiled and took his hand. Together they went to a temple
>where two old monks were sweeping the floor. The Buddha said to
>them: "This young monk will live here with you from now on.
>
>Continue your sweeping, and as your brooms move back and forth,
>listen and be aware of the sound of the broom as you sweep. "Don't
>stop until I come back."
>
>The young monk sat down and listened to the movement of the
>brooms, to and fro over the floor. He heard the whispered rhythm of
>the mantra as it was repeated over and over again. This went on for
>many weeks, and before the Buddha came back, the young monk
>had found full enlightenment and so had the two old monks (47).
Does a Roomba have Buddha-nature?
Lee Rudolph
zenworm
ROFLTT! (rolling on floor laughing to tears)
VrrRoomba!
ZN ;D
jubilation for no reason owned by no one
zenworm
great story
gratitude
ZN :D
absolute permanent perfection overflowing without action
Déjà Flu
> One day a bright and intelligent student of the Buddha...
Is this a deliberate oxymoron, or did you just not see
that coming?
Sorry to interrupt your fairy-tale too soon, but if you
need crap like that for inspiration, there are openings
for Army Medics in Ameristan.
Stay tuned for the adult version of "James and The Giant
Peach." It's juicy.
bonfils
d91a8f...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
Sounds uncannily like my therapy...
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To send me a massage, please remove your.underwear
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"Lee Rudolph" <lrud...@panix.com> wrote in message
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maybe, but a moebius maze echo pathway
absorption negotiation agenda satisfaction
pursuit certainly does.
Lee Rudolph
>"Lee Rudolph" <lrud...@panix.com> wrote in message
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>> willytex <ric...@rwilliams.us> writes:
...
>>>The young monk sat down and listened to the movement of the
>>>brooms, to and fro over the floor. He heard the whispered rhythm of
>>>the mantra as it was repeated over and over again. This went on for
>>>many weeks, and before the Buddha came back, the young monk
>>>had found full enlightenment and so had the two old monks (47).
>>
>> Does a Roomba have Buddha-nature?
>>
>> Lee Rudolph
>
>maybe, but a moebius maze echo pathway
>absorption negotiation agenda satisfaction
>pursuit certainly does.
There you go again, making sweeping generalizations.
Lee Rudolph
^@%>---*=#**
it's just my dustpan mind again
willytex
> > and so had the two old monks.
> >
Lee Rudolph wrote:
> Does a Roomba have Buddha-nature?
>
willytex
> it's just my dustpan mind again-
>
But where, exactly, in your 'mind' is there
stubstance for dust to alight? Maybe you
have no mind. In which case, there would
be no substance or dust or pan.
Lee Rudolph
I *had* them, but they must have fallen under the davenport,
or something.
Lee Rudolph (and the dustpuppies were enlightened)
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"willytex" <ric...@rwilliams.us> wrote in message
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maybe addiction duly noted.
what else ya got ?
Appledog
> "willytex" <rich...@rwilliams.us> wrote in message
True Understanding.
Wanna buy?
-
willytex
> what else ya got?
>
Well, it struck me that your statement about the
dustpan and your mind was very similar to the
statement attributed to Shenxiu concerning the
idea of keeping the mirror clean so dust could
not collect on it.
In Zen literature, this view has been ascribed to
those who failed to understand the Bodhi mind.
Everyone knows that Huineng, the Sixth Patriarch
of Chán Buddhism in China, blew to bits the notion
that the Bodhi tree is a 'mind standing bright' and
that we must continually polish it.
Huineng advocated the 'direct apporach' to Buddhist
Chan practice and enlightenment. According to the
Sixth Patriarch:
"Bodhi is no tree,
nor is the mind a standing mirror bright.
Since all is originally empty,
where does the dust alight?"
Read more:
Dajian Huineng:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huineng
Your mind, your dustpan, and the dust you think
you see are just illusions created by false
knowledge. In reality, there is no mind, no
dustpan, and no dust - there is only Bodhi Mind
- nothing in it at all. Bodhi Mind is empty of
all discursive thoughts of dust and dust
collector appliances.
"Thus shall you think of this fleeting world:
A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream,
A flash of lightning in a summer cloud,
A flickering lamp, a phantom, and a dream."
Read more:
Diamond Sutra:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Sutra
^@%>---*=#**
Your mind, your dustpan, and the dust you think
you see are just illusions created by false
knowledge. In reality, there is no mind, no
dustpan, and no dust - there is only Bodhi Mind
- nothing in it at all. Bodhi Mind is empty of
all discursive thoughts of dust and dust
collector appliances.
------------------------------------------------
your statement, your bodhi mind and all
your concepts are just illusions created
by false knowledge. in reality there is no
bodhi mind, no concepts and no reality.
brian mitchell
> . . . in reality there is no ... reality.
Ah, language! What would we do without it?
Keynes
Regard life as simply a dust bunny, or maybe a puppy's mistake.
Brief as the flash of electricity from that frayed wire in your hand.
Like the smoke from the curtains and the flaming christmas tree.
Like the chime of a gonging smoke alarm, or a visit from the police.
Abide nowhere now that your house is gone. Live in the car.
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"Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
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i tell god, either kill me now
or give me a break. this middle
of the road horseshit may have
worked for buddha thousands
of years ago but to me its just
tedium felicity ad nauseum ad
infinitum.
Keynes
wrote:
>^@%>---*=#** wrote:
>
>> . . . in reality there is no ... reality.
>
>Ah, language! What would we do without it?
Well, in the morning I cough and blow my nose a lot.
dick blisters
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"dick blisters" <dickbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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if you can't backwards mask don't
blame me for any less than tremendous
welcomes you might get.
dick blisters
>>> or give me a break. this middle
>>> of the road horseshit may have
>>> worked for buddha thousands
>>> of years ago but to me its just
>>> tedium felicity ad nauseum ad
>>> infinitum.
>
>> don't forget: ad lime and xtragin
>
> if you can't backwards mask don't
> blame me for any less than tremendous
> welcomes you might get.
^@%>---*=#**
rights that
dick blisters
^@%>---*=#**
roam to lead roads all
zenworm
> "Keynes" <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
>
> news:6hn3h5dptkv6qcqkj...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >>> > ^@%>---*=#** writes:
> >>> it's just my dustpan mind again-
>
> >>But where, exactly, in your 'mind' is there
> >>stubstance for dust to alight? Maybe you
> >>have no mind. In which case, there would
> >>be no substance or dust or pan.
>
> > Regard life as simply a dust bunny, or maybe a puppy's mistake.
> > Brief as the flash of electricity from that frayed wire in your hand.
> > Like the smoke from the curtains and the flaming christmas tree.
> > Like the chime of a gonging smoke alarm, or a visit from the police.
> > Abide nowhere now that your house is gone. Live in the car.
>
> i tell god, either kill me now
> or give me a break. this middle
> of the road horseshit may have
> worked for buddha thousands
> of years ago but to me its just
> tedium felicity ad nauseum ad
> infinitum.
not grateful for nothing?
what kind of slippers are you wearing?
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"zenworm" <zens...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>not grateful for nothing?
or are you saying;
"nothing for grateful not?"
>what kind of slippers are you wearing?
cute little bunny slippers
with lucky bunny tails.
zenworm
> "zenworm" <zensp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
fluffy!
^@%>---*=#**
>fluffy!
and they'd kick your frog slipper's
asses 9 ways to sunday.
willytex
> > or give me a break. this middle
> > of the road horseshit may have
> > worked for buddha thousands
> > of years ago but to me its just
> > tedium felicity ad nauseum ad
> > infinitum.
> >
> absolute permanent perfection overflowing without action
>
But did the historical Buddha teach the 'permanence' or the
'infinity' doctrine? I think not.
^@%>---*=#**
buddha taught the no permanence doctrine,
as such. what could be more permanent
than no permanence?
Lee Rudolph
Wait. Isn't it the "no permanents" doctrine?
I mean, why else do monks bother to shave their heads?
Lee Rudolph
^@%>---*=#**
avoiding permanent wave,
or maybe avoiding permanent
particle.
zenworm
smile, wave...
ocean
ZN :D
dick blisters
^@%>---*=#**
their quantum mechanics kit seems
to have some chromodynamic
screws loose.
zenworm
willytex
> > 'infinity' doctrine? I think not.
> >
> buddha taught the no permanence doctrine,
> as such. what could be more permanent
> than no permanence?
>
Buddha taught 'no permanence'?
^@%>---*=#**
just his signed affadavit
willytex
> > > as such. what could be more permanent
> > > than no permanence?
> > >
> > Do you have any evidence that the historical
> > Buddha taught 'no permanence'?
> >
> just his signed affadavit
>
The historical Buddha wrote nothing; he was
apparently unable to read or write. So your
'affidavit' is probably a forgery. And so, is
not valid evidence. Anything else?
^@%>---*=#**
if buddha wrote nothing down
then all you have is hearsay too,
but you sure love to walk the
cock walk on top of that hearsay.
must be zen alpha male day
or something equally puerile.
Love
I'm not sure you're saying that like it's a bad thing.
--
Love
May Shai-Hulud clear the path before you.
Love
ric...@rwilliams.us says...
Do you have any evidence that he was illiterate?
His taped testimony perhaps?
And please explain why an affidavit is not valid
evidence just because it's a forgery. I'll give
you a boost over the first obstacle: all we have
of the historical buddha could be forgery and we'd
still find the thought "historical buddha" valid.
^@%>---*=#**
"Love" <pho...@address.for.spam> wrote in message
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willytex is yet another uselessnet denizen
who demands proof from others when he
has none for his own position. seems to be
quite an epidemic.
willytex
> > apparently unable to read or write. So your
> > 'affidavit' is probably a forgery. And so, is
> > not valid evidence. Anything else?
> >
> Do you have any evidence that he was illiterate?
>
wrote anything. We don't even know what language
he spoke. But, there is a reason he was called
'Shakya the Muni' - he didn't say anything at all.
All we know about the Buddha is based on
hearsay.
willytex
> > apparently unable to read or write. So your
> > 'affidavit' is probably a forgery. And so, is not
> > valid evidence.
> >
> if buddha wrote nothing down
> then all you have is hearsay too,
>
about all anyone has - hearsay and sense
knowledge. None of us were there at the
time, so we can rule out sense experience.
But, verbal testimony is a valid means of
knowledge.
willytex
> who demands proof from others when he
> has none for his own position. seems to be
> quite an epidemic.
>
^@%>---*=#**
true that hearsay bombadeer
Lee Rudolph
If, indeed, he said nothing, it may be based on "say"
but it ain't based on "hearsay".
Lee Rudolph
zenworm
willytex
> > wrote anything. We don't even know what language
> > he spoke. But, there is a reason he was called
> > 'Shakya the Muni' - he didn't say anything at all.
> > All we know about the Buddha is based on
> > hearsay.
> >
> If, indeed, he said nothing, it may be based on "say"
> but it ain't based on "hearsay".
>
but not in English. He may have used some common
Prakrit, but we don't know which one. According to the
scriptures, he may have used a word similar to the
Sanskrit word "s'u-nyata" for "nothing".
But even if the Buddha could read and write, we don't have
any of his writings - nothing that he wrote has survived.
This isn't surprising, since the invention of the alphabet
and writing didn't occur in India until the time of Asoka.
All we know about the historical Buddha comes from
the records compiled 200 years after the Buddha's
Parinirvana. So, what we know about the Buddha is
derived from verbal testimony, i.e., hearsay.
So, there must be a reason the Buddha was called
Shakya the Muni - ususally the munis don't talk
very much. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that
all the scriptures were actually uttered by Sariputra
or some of the other followers. Maybe the Buddha
used hand signals, I don't know.
willytex
could fetch his younger brother to join the order. Delighted, the
Buddha
agreed.
But the younger brother, although kind and gentle, turned out to be
slow and dull witted. He could understand nothing of his studies and
asked to go home so that he wouldn't waste the Buddha's time or let
down his brother.
"There's no need for you to give up," said the Buddha. "You should not
abandon your search for liberation just because you seem to yourself
to be thick witted. You can drop all the philosophy you've been given
and repeat a mantra instead - one that I will now give you."
He gave the young monk a mantra and sent him away affectionately.
But soon the monk was back, this time even more humiliated. "My
beloved Buddha, I can't remember the mantra you gave me and so I can
no longer practice."
The Buddha kindly repeated it for him. But twice more he came back,
having forgotten it each time. So the Buddha gave him a simplified
form.
But when this too slipped completely out of his mind, he hardly dared
visit the Buddha again. "There's an even shorter version," the Buddha
told him, with a smile, "It's just one syllable. See if you can
remember that." But he could not.
In his hut, he broke down and wept. His brother found him and was
furious, feeling that his own reputation was now sullied. He told the
young monk to go home, and so the boy left the hut and sadly made his
way along the path. As he neared a grove of trees, he met the Buddha
coming from it.
The Buddha smiled and took his hand. Together they went to a temple
where two old monks were sweeping the floor. The Buddha said to them:
"This young monk will live here with you from now on.
Continue your sweeping, and as your brooms move back and forth, listen
and be aware of the sound of the broom as you sweep. "Don't stop until
I come back."
The young monk sat down and listened to the movement of the brooms, to
and fro over the floor. He heard the whispered rhythm of the mantra as
it was repeated over and over again. This went on for many weeks, and
before the Buddha came back, the young monk had found full
enlightenment and so had the two old monks (47).
Work Cited:
"The Buddha Speaks"
Author of 'Zen: Direct Pointing to Reality.'
Shambhala Publications, 2000
Chapter on Clarity
daletx
> One day a bright and intelligent student of the Buddha asked if he
> could fetch his younger brother to join the order. Delighted, the
> Buddha
> agreed.
Wow, it's like dejavunews all over again. Didn't this story go around
just a few weeks ago?
DT
Ned Ludd
"daletx" <dal...@gnusguy.com> wrote in message
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Yes, on Nov. 25,
Sept. 9, 2006
Jun. 25, 2005
Jan. 16, 2004
and Sep. 19, 2000
Ned
willytex
> > could fetch his younger brother to join the order. Delighted, the
> > Buddha agreed.
> >
>