Beagle May Be Lost
Sanford M. Manley
landing today, has not checked in.
There is still some window for hope in the next few days.
The question remains whether some unknown factor is
ruining these missions or some design flaw is contributing
to the loss of Mars landers.
--
Sanford M. Manley
Nonconformists travel as a rule in bunches.
You rarely find a nonconformist who goes it alone.
And woe to him inside a nonconformist clique who
does not conform with nonconformity.- Eric Hoffer
http://www.tfn.net/~smanley/index.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/ansaman/
Daryl
Sanford M. Manley (manl...@bellsouth.net) wrote...
>
>News media reports that the Beagle Rover, scheduled for a
>landing today, has not checked in.
>
>There is still some window for hope in the next few days.
>
>The question remains whether some unknown factor is
>ruining these missions or some design flaw is contributing
>to the loss of Mars landers.
This happens far too frequently to be accidental.
It's like someone knows which ones are likely to
find something and which ones aren't, and is
destroying the ones that are. There is life on
Mars alright, and it wants to be left alone.
--
Daryl - still working on a new email address...
cupcake
> Beagle May Be Lost
>
> From: "Sanford M. Manley" <manl...@bellsouth.net>
> Reply to: [1]"Sanford M. Manley"
> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:19:38 GMT
> Newsgroups:
> [2]alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
> Followup to: [3]newsgroup
>News media reports that the Beagle Rover, scheduled for a
>landing today, has not checked in.
>
>There is still some window for hope in the next few days.
>
the website for the Beagle mission, in its most recent press
release (Dec 25 1400 UTC) says:
"Media reports suggest that the team is conducting a continuous search
for Beagle 2. This is not the case - there are only select
communication windows when a search can be carried out. The next
window occurs this evening when the Jodrell Bank telescope will seek
out a signal from Beagle 2. The next chance to try again with Odyssey
will be Boxing Day evening."
>The question remains whether some unknown factor is
>ruining these missions or some design flaw is contributing
>to the loss of Mars landers.
>
>--
>Sanford M. Manley
>Nonconformists travel as a rule in bunches.
>You rarely find a nonconformist who goes it alone.
>And woe to him inside a nonconformist clique who
> does not conform with nonconformity.- Eric Hoffer
>[4]http://www.tfn.net/~smanley/index.html
>[5]http://www.livejournal.com/users/ansaman/
cupcake
Daryl wrote:
>In article [5]<f799dea765a806e4...@news.teranews.com>
___________________________________________________________________
Some Past Missions to Mars, Successes and Failures
The Associated Press
Published: Dec 25, 2003
A chronology of some past missions to Mars. Of 34 unmanned American,
Soviet and Russian missions to the planet since 1960, two-thirds have
ended in failure.
- Mariner 4, U.S.: July, 14, 1965. First successful Mars flyby,
returning 21 pictures.
- Mariner 9, U.S.: Orbited Mars from Nov. 13, 1971 to Oct. 27, 1972,
returning 7,329 photos.
- Mars 3, U.S.S.R.: Made the first successful landing on the surface
on Dec. 3, 1971, and camera began to scan. But contact lost after 20
seconds and no images obtained.
- Mars 6 and 7, U.S.S.R: Two landers failed to reach the surface in
March 1974.
- Viking 1, U.S.: Orbited June 1976-1980, lander operated from July
1976-1982.
- Viking 2, U.S.: Orbited August 1976-1987, lander operated September
1976-1980. Together the two Vikings returned more than 50,000
pictures.
- Mars Observer, U.S.: Launched in September 1992 on mission to orbit
Mars. Lost in August 1993.
- Mars Global Surveyor, U.S.: Began orbiting September 1997, still
conducting mission of mapping surface.
- Mars Pathfinder, U.S.: Rover landed on surface on July 4, 1997,
moving on surface and transmitting data until Sept. 27, 1997.
- Nozomi (Planet-B), Japan: Launched July 1998 on mission to orbit
Mars. Failed to leave Sun's orbit and abandoned on Dec. 3, 2003.
- Mars Climate Orbiter, U.S.: Launched December 1998, lost September
1999.
- Mars Polar Lander/Deep Space 2, U.S.: Launched January 1999 on
mission to land probe to study Martian south pole. Lost on arrival
December 1999.
- Mars Odyssey, U.S.: Launched April 2001, currently orbiting Mars and
conducting mapping mission.
- Opportunity and Spirit, U.S.: Two rovers, launched in June and July
2003, scheduled to arrive in January and land on opposite sides of
Mars.
Source: NASA
AP-12-25-03 1836EST
___________________________________________________________________
>--
> Daryl
>
cupcake
cupcake wrote:
>> Beagle May Be Lost
>>
>> From: "Sanford M. Manley" <manl...@bellsouth.net>
>> Reply to: [1]"Sanford M. Manley"
>> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:19:38 GMT
>> Newsgroups:
>> [2]alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
>> Followup to: [3]newsgroup
>>News media reports that the Beagle Rover, scheduled for a
>>landing today, has not checked in.
>>
>>There is still some window for hope in the next few days.
>>
>
> the website for the Beagle mission, in its most recent press
> release (Dec 25 1400 UTC) says:
>
>
> "Media reports suggest that the team is conducting a continuous search
> for Beagle 2. This is not the case - there are only select
> communication windows when a search can be carried out. The next
> window occurs this evening when the Jodrell Bank telescope will seek
> out a signal from Beagle 2. The next chance to try again with Odyssey
> will be Boxing Day evening."
>
>
>
Status report...
"26 December 2003 Between 22.20 23.40 UT on 25 December 2003 (23.20 -
00.40 CET), the 76-metre-dish radio telescope at the Jodrell Bank
Observatory near Manchester, UK attempted to detect a signal from the
Beagle 2 lander. No signal was detected."
>
>>The question remains whether some unknown factor is
>>ruining these missions or some design flaw is contributing
>>to the loss of Mars landers.
>>
>>--
>>Sanford M. Manley
>>Nonconformists travel as a rule in bunches.
>>You rarely find a nonconformist who goes it alone.
>>And woe to him inside a nonconformist clique who
>> does not conform with nonconformity.- Eric Hoffer
>>[4][5]http://www.tfn.net/~smanley/index.html
>>[5][6]http://www.livejournal.com/users/ansaman/
cupcake
cupcake
at 370 million dollars, was Beagle 2 a boondoggle? :)
cupcake
... and, anyways -- only the Brits cud come up with
a hare-brained idea like sending a beagle to Mars to
sniff around and try to flush out some little green men
dt
Greta Garbo lives on Mars???!!!???
DT
Fô
wrote:
Along with Elvis and JFK.
shhhh.
"Mors certa, vita incerta"
dt
Say there, Fô, you wouldn't happen to live in Okrahoma, would you?
Something you posted a coupla days had a different name on it, that
kinda made me wonder.
DT
Fô
wrote:
>Fô wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:38:29 GMT, dt <ddott...@mail.utexas.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Daryl wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <f799dea765a806e4...@news.teranews.com>
>>>>Sanford M. Manley (manl...@bellsouth.net) wrote...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>News media reports that the Beagle Rover, scheduled for a
>>>>>landing today, has not checked in.
>>>>>
>>>>>There is still some window for hope in the next few days.
>>>>>
>>>>>The question remains whether some unknown factor is
>>>>>ruining these missions or some design flaw is contributing
>>>>>to the loss of Mars landers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This happens far too frequently to be accidental.
>>>>It's like someone knows which ones are likely to
>>>>find something and which ones aren't, and is
>>>>destroying the ones that are. There is life on
>>>>Mars alright, and it wants to be left alone.
>>>
>>>Greta Garbo lives on Mars???!!!???
>>>
>>>DT
>>
>>
>> Along with Elvis and JFK.
>>
>> shhhh.
>
>Say there, Fô, you wouldn't happen to live in Okrahoma, would you?
>
>Something you posted a coupla days had a different name on it, that
>kinda made me wonder.
>
>DT
Wellll, Dale, I figured my 'style' would show Sooner or later. Now
that you mention it, I'd like to take this opportunity to
apologicalize for the way "your" Horns got shut out of a big bowl by
the way "my" Sooners tanked in the Big 12 playoff.
It were uncalled for. But it could have been because Mack Brown was
rooting for OU. One of the OU coaches frankly admitted their karma
sucked that day.
Does that answer your ??
Ali
buddhashortfatguy
news:f799dea765a806e4...@news.teranews.com...
> News media reports that the Beagle Rover, scheduled for a
> landing today, has not checked in.
>
> There is still some window for hope in the next few days.
>
> The question remains whether some unknown factor is
> ruining these missions or some design flaw is contributing
> to the loss of Mars landers.
Mixing English & Metric systems again?!
buddhashortfatguy
news:kNKGb.78379$8d4....@nntp-post.primus.ca...
Terrorist red menace, commies from Mars!!
Trinlay Khadro
> landing today, has not checked in.
>
> There is still some window for hope in the next few days.
>
> The question remains whether some unknown factor is
> ruining these missions or some design flaw is contributing
> to the loss of Mars landers.
Design Flaw...hmmm, well it seems to be a regular sort of thing.
I like the theory that the Martians are shooting them down, and then
handling the even in the media much like "crashed UFO's" are handled
here...
"It was just a weather balloon..."
dt
Well, your apologization would certainly be accepted, if I had any idea
what it meant. Here's what I know, in ascending order of importance:
3. The Horns didn't do as well as expected this year.
2. Sometimes they ran up the score, sometimes other people did.
1. Do NOT go near the campus on home game days!
Good to see you back around.
DT
Fô
>F???????????????????????? wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:29:40 GMT, dt <ddott...@mail.utexas.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>DT
>>
>>
>> Wellll, Dale, I figured my 'style' would show Sooner or later. Now
>> that you mention it, I'd like to take this opportunity to
>> apologicalize for the way "your" Horns got shut out of a big bowl by
>> the way "my" Sooners tanked in the Big 12 playoff.
>>
>> It were uncalled for. But it could have been because Mack Brown was
>> rooting for OU. One of the OU coaches frankly admitted their karma
>> sucked that day.
>>
>> Does that answer your ??
>>
>> Ali
>>
>> "Mors certa, vita incerta"
>>
>> www.thehungersite.com
>
>Well, your apologization would certainly be accepted, if I had any idea
>what it meant. Here's what I know, in ascending order of importance:
It [my apologicalization, not what you know] ain't worth the virtual
paper it's printed on. The Horns would have gone to a bcs bowl instead
of a toilet bowl, had OU beaten KSU instead of going into the crapper.
That's why Mack & Co were,yes, singing BoomerSooner a few weeks ago.
What a pathetic party that must have been.
>3. The Horns didn't do as well as expected this year.
>2. Sometimes they ran up the score, sometimes other people did.
>1. Do NOT go near the campus on home game days!
>
>Good to see you back around.
>
>DT
I'll stay as long as my vows of compassion allow me. Til the last
lightbulb in pre-nirvana needs changing.
Til the Horns beat the Sooners in the Cotton Bowl.