Which D&D Character Are You?

[awaken21]

What D&D Character are you?
Take the test. http://bit.ly/ZA4AXJ

I'm a Lawful Good Human Monk (7th Level)
That's so funny cause... well it just is.

Ability Scores:
Strength- 13
Dexterity- 17
Constitution- 14
Intelligence- 16
Wisdom- 12
Charisma- 14

[Kitty P]

"awaken21" <lukec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Neutral Good- A neutral good character does the best that a good person can
do. He is devoted to helping others. He works with kings and magistrates but
does not feel beholden to them. Neutral good is the best alignment you can
be because it means doing what is good without bias for or against order.
However, neutral good can be a dangerous alignment because when it advances
mediocrity by limiting the actions of the truly capable.

I think that means I'm wishy washy....

[Sanford Manley]

I came out as Lawful Neutral:

A lawful neutral character acts as law, tradition, or a personal code
directs her. Order and organization are paramount to her. She may
believe in personal order and live by a code or standard, or she may
believe in order for all and favor a strong, organized government.

Lawful neutral is the best alignment you can be because it means you are
reliable and honorable without being a zealot.

--
Sanford

[Wilson]

Sandy is certainly no zealot.

It says I'm True Neutral

A true neutral character does what seems to be a good idea. He doesn't
feel strongly one way or the other when it comes to good vs. evil or law
vs. chaos. ... Some true neutral characters, on the other hand, commit
themselves philosophically to neutrality. They see good, evil, law, and
chaos as prejudices and dangerous extremes. They advocate the middle way
of neutrality as the best, most balanced road in the long run.

It sounds like I'm a regular f*ckin' bodhisattva.

--
Wilson

[Kitty P]

"Wilson" <wil...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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heh

[daletx]

And I came out with the same damn thing.

Seems we're more alike than we think...

DT

[Wilson]

Like brothers from different mothers.

--
Wilson

[awaken21]

Here's the description for my alignment. Everyone else put theirs on their response so...

Lawful Good

A lawful good character acts as a good person is expected or required to act. He combines a commitment to oppose evil with the discipline to fight relentlessly. He tells the truth, keeps his word, helps those in need, and speaks out against injustice. A lawful good character hates to see the guilty go unpunished.

Lawful good is the best alignment you can be because it combines honor and compassion.

[x]

until politics corrupted the integrity.

--
all wrongs revenged

[x]

On Sat, 04 May 2013 06:11:04 -0700, awaken21 wrote:

> Here's the description for my alignment. Everyone else put theirs on
> their response so...
>
> Lawful Good

lawful good? possible only in cases of extreme naivety.

[awaken21]

On Saturday, May 4, 2013 1:00:56 PM UTC-4, x wrote:
> On Sat, 04 May 2013 06:11:04 -0700, awaken21 wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here's the description for my alignment. Everyone else put theirs on
>
> > their response so...
>
> >
>
> > Lawful Good
>
>
>
> lawful good? possible only in cases of extreme naivety.
>

I'd say innocence. Although it's still the result of a very human and adult calculation.

[x]

a show about a canadian mounty in america comes to mind.

[awaken21]

Another white guy come set everything right. It just never gets old does it?

A boy scout in an oil company.

A nun in a whore house.

She's such a slut.

[Kitty P]

"awaken21" <lukec...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Great metaphors! I find it interesting that even in a group that has more
than a few Buddhists wandering by to make comments, that more can't see that
although this particular conversation is entertaining, it seems sort of more
calculated to sling shit. Can someone constantly be lawful and good? The
answer is yes. The answer is no. Is Wilson right about his view on
cultural/economic politics? The answer is yes and the answer is no. Am I a
slut? The answer is yes. The answer is no. Does it matter all that much? The
answer is.....

Kitty

[Ned Ludd]

"Kitty P" <kitty...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>>>> Lawful Good
>>>
>>>>> lawful good? possible only in cases of extreme naivety.
>>>
>>>> I'd say innocence. Although it's still the result of a very human
>>>> and adult calculation.
>>>
>>> a show about a canadian mounty in america comes to mind.
>>
>> Another white guy come set everything right. It just never gets old
>> does it?
>> A boy scout in an oil company.
>> A nun in a whore house.
>> She's such a slut.
>
> Great metaphors! I find it interesting that even in a group that has more
> than a few Buddhists wandering by to make comments, that more can't see
> that although this particular conversation is entertaining,
> it seems sort of more calculated to sling shit. Can someone constantly be
> lawful and good? The answer is yes. The answer is no. Is Wilson right
> about his view on cultural/economic politics? The answer is yes and the
> answer is no. Am I a slut? The answer is yes. The answer is no. Does it
> matter all that much? The answer is.....
> Kitty

If there were no one to sling shit at, would there be a Usenet?
If humans didn't sling shit, they wouldn't be primates. Even hippos
sling shit. I guess the rule is, if you CAN sling shit, you sling it.

How much of Buddhist tradition - all Buddhist tradition for the
last 2,500 years - is shit-slinging? OK, well, I would say... 30%.
That's right off the top of my head, so I'm willing to stand corrected.
Galileo's "Dialogo" (wherein he attacked the Church's doctrine on the
geocentric nature of the solar system) was shit-slinging par excellence.
The character in the dialog who defends the Church's position is a dolt -
A simpleton, in fact his name is Simplicio.

And we all know how that little episode of feces-flinging turned out.
The Pope in question, Urban VIII, had been a good friend of Galileo
and had even sent his son to live with and be educated by Galileo.
That son was one of Galileo's strongest defenders. But the Pope
still ended up having his inquisitors show Galileo the instruments
he would be tortured with, to help jog his mind into recanting and
abjuring his bothersome little heresy.

Which is where shit-slinging usually ends up, if one of the parties
to it has an enormous power advantage over the other.

Ned

[brian mitchell]

I think the answer is no if one can keep finding one's way through the eye of the needle; otherwise,
probably.

I know I have a lot of habits of thought and behaviour accreted over a lifetime, many of which are
no doubt limiting and some possibly harmful (to myself, mostly). I don't have time to start
reforming myself, changing this or dropping that, even if it were feasible. I rely on the view that
while the contortions of the personality obscure the pure self-nature, they can't degrade it ("You
can't abuse it in the least"). The two don't meet. Therefore, knowing myself as intimately as I do,
having lived with myself for six decades, I can factor those things out without having to amend them
or be thrown by them. As long as I don't make further investment in the personal self, there's a
chance of seeing through it. This, at least, is my great hope, othewise I'm probably sunk.

[x]

meretrix.

[noname]

On 05/05/2013 02:31 PM, brian mitchell wrote:
> "Kitty P" wrote:
>
>> "awaken21" <lukec...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:c4897e7b-35f1-4606...@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Saturday, May 4, 2013 8:52:17 PM UTC-4, x wrote:
>
>>>> a show about a canadian mounty in america comes to mind.
>>>
>>> Another white guy come set everything right. It just never gets old does
>>> it?
>>>
>>> A boy scout in an oil company.
>>>
>>> A nun in a whore house.
>>>
>>> She's such a slut.
>>
>> Great metaphors! I find it interesting that even in a group that has more
>> than a few Buddhists wandering by to make comments, that more can't see that
>> although this particular conversation is entertaining, it seems sort of more
>> calculated to sling shit. Can someone constantly be lawful and good? The
>> answer is yes. The answer is no. Is Wilson right about his view on
>> cultural/economic politics? The answer is yes and the answer is no. Am I a
>> slut? The answer is yes. The answer is no. Does it matter all that much? The
>> answer is.....
>
> I think the answer is no if one can keep finding one's way through the eye of the needle; otherwise,
> probably.
>
> I know I have a lot of habits of thought and behaviour accreted over a lifetime, many of which are
> no doubt limiting and some possibly harmful (to myself, mostly). I don't have time to start
> reforming myself, changing this or dropping that, even if it were feasible.

How much time does it take to stop playing the game?

> I rely on the view that
> while the contortions of the personality obscure the pure self-nature, they can't degrade it ("You
> can't abuse it in the least"). The two don't meet.

I think that's a reasonable view to rely on.

> Therefore, knowing myself as intimately as I do,
> having lived with myself for six decades, I can factor those things out without having to amend them
> or be thrown by them. As long as I don't make further investment in the personal self, there's a
> chance of seeing through it. This, at least, is my great hope,

Ignore the ego and it will go away.

> othewise I'm probably sunk.
>

It is the ego that heartily desires to not be sunk. When you stop
playing the game, stop pandering to the desires of the ego... which is
really where all desires live... then you become less sunk with every
moment you experience.

[Kitty P]

"noname" <nom...@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
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My theory is that if we don't, then we either want to sling shit or eat it.
Some of us are eaters and some of us are flingers.

[Son of man]

On May 1, 7:28 am, awaken21 <lukecar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What D&D Character are you?

> Take the test.http://bit.ly/ZA4AXJ

>
> I'm a Lawful Good Human Monk (7th Level)
> That's so funny cause... well it just is.
>
> Ability Scores:
> Strength- 13
> Dexterity- 17
> Constitution- 14
> Intelligence- 16
> Wisdom- 12
> Charisma- 14

Same here (but only did the alignment survey)

Lawful Good- A lawful good character acts as a good person is expected

or required to act. He combines a commitment to oppose evil with the
discipline to fight relentlessly. He tells the truth, keeps his word,
helps those in need, and speaks out against injustice. A lawful good
character hates to see the guilty go unpunished. Lawful good is the
best alignment you can be because it combines honor and compassion.

However, lawful good can be a dangerous alignment when it restricts
freedom and criminalizes self-interest.

--------

I mostly agree, except with the hating to see the guilty go
unpunished, as I also try to live up to the standards of being "anti-
suffering" and "anti-sorrowful". The guilty should voluntarily regret
their crimes, and if not then all that's left is prayer and patience,
yet not that they should be free to do more of the same though. But
punishment in terms of an eye for an eye only makes you as bad as
they. Penance not punishment would be more of an ideal I could agree
with.

[liaM]

Some people have tact, others tell the truth. There's always give and take
in conversations. But when something said makes me vomit, I fling :-)

[God of heaven]

It's about ideals, about their spirit and their practicality. I doubt
that anyone alive today can live up to the highest ideals of Buddhism
either, such as the metaphor of the saw of not even raising a thought of
anger towards someone who was hacking you limb from limb with a saw.

But the ideals are extremely important because they act as a moral
compass which helps to define greater character. So even though it's
unlikely not to become angry at someone who was physically harming you,
it becomes easier to not become angry for a lesser reason, like someone
verbally abusing you. And even if you became angry at a person verbally
abusing you and return the same, then beyond that because you understand
the ideal you probably won't ever be the one to instigate such an
exchange of harsh words. So the ideals serve as a moral compass, even if
we can't always live up to them in their highest sense. Same goes for is
it possible being "lawful and good", as you said the answer is yes and
no, but it's understanding of the ideal that matters the most, even if
it's not possible to always follow through.

[Kitty P]

"God of heaven" <Future...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I agree. If we we didn't have occasional fits, we might be freaking
enlightened in Buddha terms or saints in Christian terms.

[Son of man]

And of course, not to mention, if we didn't resist the whole world probably would be ovverrun by evil. And also if everyone were a virgin, there would be no more human race. It just goes to show in an imperfect world, it requires imperfect people for it to endure. To what ends? To be a stepping stone for us to gain a higher understanding that will carry us to something far greater. Just having the right understanding has that power.

[x]

people want war.... i'm not the greatest fan of wars, especially the ones
i've seen waged so far by humankind... but if i had to choose a war to
support (or create) i would probably not make it a nation or a race above
other nations or races, for whatever their reasons... i would probably
choose a war against adults by children, albeit a self defeating position.

but it is not that adults are intrinsically less than children it is that
generally speaking adults are less than children. it's the state of mind
and the values and perspectives of the child that define the superiority..

if you don't want to be disposed of remember wizards will be in demand....

[Kirsten]

I am Neutral Good, just like Kitty!

Mostly follow the law, sometimes don't if the greater good is served.

"To a neutral good being, life and the assurance of other creatures' rights take precedence over all else. This is not to say that this character will have an aversion to taking another's life when faced with a choice between an attacker's and his own, however. Neutral good beings also believe that law and chaos are merely tools to use in bringing life, prosperity, and happiness to all deserving creatures. Neither numbers nor individual concerns have any bearing on decisions regarding the needs and rights of any given creature. In other words, in the view of a neutral good being, rarely will either the needs of the many or the personal desires of an individual outweigh the needs of any other creature. All life is given even-handed treatment. "

Or, vegan, basically

Best wishes
Kirsten

[Kitty P]

"Kirsten" <kir...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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Yes. Although in my case extreme guilt when I eat a chicken breast.

[Sanford Manley]

On 5/9/2013 7:33 PM, Kitty P wrote:
> Yes. Although in my case extreme guilt when I eat a chicken breast.

I have enjoyed my time with breasts.

--
Sanford

[Kitty P]

"Sanford Manley" <ans...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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We'll just assume you weren't cruel heh

[awaken21]

On Sunday, May 5, 2013 4:31:43 PM UTC-4, brian mitchell wrote:

>Therefore, knowing myself as intimately as I do,
>

> having lived with myself for six decades...

That's not a great indication. Most people die never having really paid much attention to who they really are. Not saying that's you Brian, just a generalized observation.

[awaken21]

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:34:27 AM UTC-4, x wrote:

>
>
>
> people want war....


Most people don't want war. The fact that we have them constantly is an indication of systemic issues.

[Wilson]

Well, that's certainly better than if we were to blame.

--
Wilson

[i2i]

"awaken21" wrote in message
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sort of. at the basic level of the elements
themselves there will always be conflict
since the elements themselves are always
at odds with each other, i.e., water versus
fire, and so on, and in their quest to find and
negotiate the path of the least resistance, they
conflict, which in the world of form in this
physical manifestation on one scale means
war.

[awaken21]

So you see war in differing elements? Interesting. I always saw differences as a blessing and often as balancing. Not war like at all. And possibly the worst justification for humans slaughtering each other i've heard recently.

[i2i]

"awaken21" wrote in message
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no one is being slaughtered. awareness
loses conducive vehicles for its continuing
expressions. when personalization is
deemed legitimate, limited perspectives
ensue.

[x]

an individual is a collective of nomadic atoms.

[awaken21]

You mean like seeing natural balance and differences in interaction as war?

[i2i]

"x" wrote in message news:KqSdnd7IcszpBQXM...@giganews.com...

a particle soup with a
morphing storyline

[i2i]

"awaken21" wrote in message
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to a degree all perspectives can
be seen as legitimate although
somewhat limited. moving from an
individual ego perspective to a more
universal unity perspective is an initial
step. along the way. in order to communicate
from limited perspectives progressive steps
in evaluation conclusions become less and
less limited.

[awaken21]

We can always generalize or get detailed to the point of absurdity or complete impracticality, but to what end?

[x]

to persuade others of your supreme intelligence, of course, and then to
seize power over them and create a paradise for your hearts true ideals.

[x]

i speak for others not myself.

you've seen my face, i'm honest and filled with love.

[i2i]

"awaken21" wrote in message
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politics

[liaM]

Le 5/1/2013 1:28 PM, awaken21 a �crit :

> What D&D Character are you?

> Take the test. http://bit.ly/ZA4AXJ

>
> I'm a Lawful Good Human Monk (7th Level)
> That's so funny cause... well it just is.
>
> Ability Scores:
> Strength- 13
> Dexterity- 17
> Constitution- 14
> Intelligence- 16
> Wisdom- 12
> Charisma- 14
>

I'm non-neutral and am totally against this test.

What good is a multiple choice test that does
not propose as an answer the all important escape
clause "none of the above" ?

[Lee Rudolph]

liaM <cud...@mindless.com> writes:

So, you're The Nun of the Above. Sounds good to me.

Lee Rudolph

[awaken21]

That's a long way around to get to 'war is inevitable'.

[awaken21]

On Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:16:09 PM UTC-4, liaM wrote:
> Le 5/1/2013 1:28 PM, awaken21 a �crit :

I'll put you down for 'neutral evil'.
;)

[i2i]

"awaken21" wrote in message
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you don't see any culpability
for war on the part of politics?

[awaken21]

category error. War is a function of political will.

[i2i]

"awaken21" wrote in message
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hair splitting

[awaken21]

> 7

category errors are critical errors, the opposite of hair splitting.

In the end all this flopping around you're up to seems to mean you believe war as SOP is inevitable.