Just who is Brother Jed?
Ann'e-Marie Gearhart
trying to get a fix on who this Brother Jed guy is, and what exactly it is that
he does. (I stumbled upon the group in a list of newsgroups- It looked
interesting) It is my understanding from what I
have read that he is some type of right-wing evangelist who is stating that we
all must accept Jesus. Is that correct? Also, could someone also tell me
about the other people involved with Brother Jed, and wether he is affliated
with any church or group, or if he is just personally convicted of this and is
doing this purely on his own arrangement?
Incidentally, there is a person present on my campus who goes by both Jed and
Max(!) and he also evangelizes! Pretty scary, huh?
-ann'e-marie
Carl Turner
>HI. I've been reading this group for about two weeks now, and I've been just
>trying to get a fix on who this Brother Jed guy is, and what exactly it is that
>he does.
I guess it's time to repost the Best of Brother Jed file. The file is a
basic introduction to Jed, Cindy, Max, Holy Hubert and some random loonies.
It also gives the background of the "Computer is watching you" gag and the
"evil demon Gnirut." (That's Turing spelled backward).
I'm working on the Best of 1991, and will post when I get the chance. The
1990 functions as a pretty good primer, though. Read and enjoy.
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>From: tur...@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner)
Date: 15 Dec 90 00:45:55 GMT
Organization: University of Florida Psychology Department
Brother Jed and Sister Cindy are on the campus of the U. of Florida this
week, on the southern leg of their "1990-1991 Peace, Love and Tolerance
Tour." Round about this time every year, coincident with the change of
seasons, they head south for some good-old-time fire-and-brimstone preaching
and praying.
If you have ever seen this pair at your campus or church then you know who
I'm talking about. If you don't, well....perhaps the best way to explain
Jed and Cindy are through stories, eye-witness testimony, true-to-life
details of their efforts to drag college students into the welcoming
arms of Jesus.
Might as well start things myself: Cindy was a University of Florida
student back in the 1970's, a self-proclaimed "disco queen" who
was "saved" in the parking lot of the Krystal restaurant across the street
from the campus.
Her style is somewhat confrontational. Not content to stand on benches and
shout at the "whores" and "sluts" as they walk past her, she's been known
in the past to grab female students who are dressed immodestly and demand
that they go home and put some clothes on (after a talking-to by the
campus police about assault she has dropped this from her repertoire).
Question-and-answer is where Jed really shines as an entertainer. A sampling:
Q. "Is it wrong for a man to rape his wife?"
A. "How is it possible for a man to rape his own property?"
Jed: "Say, where's that girl who said she was a lesbian?" (A woman in the
crowd raises her hand). "Tell me, sister, when did you start licking
other women out?"
Jed visited South Africa on a "fact-finding mission" several years ago, and
wrote a book about his experiences.
Q. "From what you've said about South Africa, it sounds like you approve
of slavery!"
A. "What's wrong with slavery? The Bible condones slavery."
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>From: mas3...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Odin)
Date: 15 Dec 90 01:30:45 GMT
Sender: ne...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
I refer you to alt.folklore.urban, where this discussion has been going
on for quite some time. Very amusing... Also, look for the coming of
alt.brother.jed , or some similar group. This will be dedicated to
tracking and sharing stories about the infamous Brother Jed. Also, when
you see this man I encourage you to say but one sentence to him:
"Brother Jed, The Computer is watching you."
Suffice it to say that when this is repeated all across the nation,
his response will be nothing less than hilarious...
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>From: dwei...@isis.cs.du.edu (David Hills Weinstein)
Date: 6 Dec 90 19:07:40 GMT
Organization: Chaos under Glass
This past Spring, the University of Texas at Austin was treated to more
than a week of tirades from the ever popular Brother Rick. In addition
to the usual tirades against the sins of the day (i.e "And feminists,
most of whom are lessssssbbbbians..." and suchlike), the heckling did
become quite interesting.
"Hey, Brother Rick. Tell us what *really* happenned to Elvis?"
--Anonymous
"Brother Rick, some of us were wondering, do you wear boxers,
briefs, or <pause> nothing at all?"
--UT Student President
Eventually, the Royal Order of Pythons (an organization which has among
other things held fishing expeditions in the West Mall fountain, gathered
concrete blocks to sell as souvenir blocks of the Berlin Wall, and run
candidates for Student President with such auspicious platforms as bringing
the Pro-Bowler's tour to the Uniion and putting a revolving glass restaurant
atop the UT Tower) sponsored Brother Rick so he could speak on campus
rather than ranting from the passing sidewalk.
Perhaps we could keep a "realtime" thread on current locations of Brother
Jed and his merry men (if they aren't that far a drive away, a visit is
always a pleasant way to spend an afternoon). Alt.brother.jed anyone?
Dave Weinstein
Internet: dwei...@isis.cs.du.edu
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>From: we...@latcs1.oz.au (Killer T Cells)
Date: 6 Dec 90 15:19:51 GMT
Organization: The Victorian Orgasm
I remember Cindy preaching on her own at U. of Arkansas at Fayetteville --
what a screamer! Someone give her a keyboard, please, and ability to post
on alt.flame about the EVILs of being a DISCO QUEEN! (She should know,
having been one.) One thing she told the crowd (which interested everyone
very much, you may be sure) is that, presumably through the power of god,
you can *regain your virginity*. (I went to look for mine where I lost it,
but it never turned up. What a relief.)
I've seen her with Jed, too. IMHO, she's actually a better show on her own.
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>From: d...@sumac13.cray.com (Dean Johnson)
Date: 13 Dec 90 00:15:39 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
It was a few years back, but I think Brother Jed appeared at St. Cloud State
University in St. Cloud, MN. He just sorta started preaching and in the process,
alienating everybody. He just about got the shit kicked out of him a couple of
times when he said something to the effect of "Moslems are going to hell without
seeing God...". If people are truly interested, I can go and find the article
from the campus paper about him. He was going by the name Jed Smock, at that
time. He was a real bozo, but a good entertainer.
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>From: mor...@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
Date: 13 Dec 90 15:20:11 GMT
Organization: The Puzzle Palace, UKentucky
Sad to say, his headquarters is right here in Lexington, so we get
to hear him at least once or twice a semester. He was just ranting
at our Free Speech Area about a month or so ago. I'm a long-time
Jed-veteran; I first laughed at him in 1981. His style runs some-
thing like this:
"And the evils of <meaningful pause> for-ni-CA-tion strike all of
you! ALL of you are sinners! You, there in the pink sweater!
You are an agent of Satan, wearing those tight clothes to tempt
men to forniCAtion.....how many men have you slept with?!"
The word "fornication" is almost always accompanied by this weird
hand gesture that none of us could ever figure out. You know how
Queen Elizabeth waves, with only her wrist moving? Well, hold your
hand as if you were holding a baseball, point it at the ground, and
rotate your wrist; that's the Brother Jed Fornication Gesture (tm).
Several folks attempt to debate him; he always responds with some-
thing along the lines of "You're a sinner; you should be listening
instead of trying to argue for Satan".
Brother Jed tells us that his salvation came at a Van Halen concert.
When he saw David Lee Roth with a bottle of Jack Daniels and a joint,
he saw a blinding light; to him, the rest is history. None of us had
the heart to tell him about flash pots........
By the way, ask him about his days as a brother of Delta Upsilon
fraternity at, I think, Indiana University. Boy, that place was
a hotbed of forniCAtion <make hand gesture>........
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>From: whe...@huey.wslab.Hawaii.Edu (The Obscure Guru)
Date: 14 Dec 90 09:56:08 GMT
Organization: Dot in the Deep Blue Sea
I think that a statement (rather than a question that he
could start raving in response to) along the lines of, "The Computer
is watching you," would be hilarious. After getting 10 or 20 such
messages we could become a bit of urban folklore that he believes in...
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>From: d...@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Dave Wilson)
Date: 14 Dec 90 16:31:20 GMT
Organization: UF CIS Dept.
Well, I don't know who he is, other than Brother Jed Smock, but he's appearing
here live, one week only, at the University of Florida, on his 1990 world tour.
He doesn't have the opening act he had last year, a sort Jed jr., with a weak
chin, and none of the righteous fervor that Jed has.
Neither does he have Sister Cindy [begin folklore] who was a reporter sent
by the evil student newspaper the Alligator to do a story on him. Instead,
Jed introduced her to Jesus at the Crystal, and Cindy was converted on her
knees in the parking lot. [end folklore]. Jed and Cindy were married, and
now she has a child, and wears clothing that covers her entire body. Actually,
I'm not sure this qualifies as folklore, as Brother Jed attests that it is
true. Then again, he also says that sororities are operated as whorehouses by
fraternities.
I used to think Jed was just a local loonie, but two or three years ago Rolling
Stone did a big article on him. Apparently he has a regular tour he follows
each year, hitting all the hotbeds of fornication and sin (college campuses).
Oh, oh, oh, I almost forgot. [Not folklore] The past few years I have seen
the University of Florida Lesbian and Gay Society (UFLAGS) have their group
picture taken with Jed, who feels compelled to tell them they are all going
to burn in hell. They form up around him, and have the picture taken, with
much jesting at Jed's expense. He takes it with surprisingly good grace.
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>From: d...@retiree.cis.ufl.edu (Dave Wilson)
Date: 14 Dec 90 22:00:14 GMT
Organization: UF CIS Dept.
Okay, it's started. As I rode my bike past Brother Jed on the way back
from lunch I shouted "The computer is watching you". He just looked at
me funny. Little does he know...
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>From: tur...@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner)
Date: 15 Dec 90 00:45:55 GMT
Organization: University of Florida Psychology Department
In regards to his diatribes about "foooooornicators......." One popular
sports cheer in these parts is "It's great to be a FLORIDA GATOR!"
Frequently, when Jed gets going about fornicators the crowd spontaneously
breaks into the cheer "It's great to be a FORN-I-CATOR...It's great to
be..." etc. etc. As the crowds sometimes reach into 3 digits, this is
probably a little unnerving to people in the (nearby) library.
Brother Jim Gilles was a Jed-understudy for a while. He's out there on
his own now. Jim was going on for a while about "evil, AIDS-infected
queers" when this exchange took place:
Q. "Jim, just face it: you're HOMOPHOBIC!"
A. "Brother Jim is NOT afraid of queers! Queers are afraid of Brother
Jim!"
Q. "That's cause you're so hung!"
Then, after the laughter had died down:
Q. "Why do you think he wears those big red suspenders?"
Max Lynch story: Max is really happy to tell people how he received the
word of God. Seems he was fired from his job. He went home, picked up
the Bible, and lay on the couch for days reading it. Occassionally his
wife would wander in and ask him when he thought he might get up and
out and find another job, as the family was out of money. Finally Max
lept from the couch and cracked his wife on the side of the head with
the word of God; he knocked her cold (Max demonstrates this with great
enthusiasm). Then, like a prizefighter celebrating over the body of a
fallen victim, shouted "WOMAN! I HAVE a job! I'm going to preach the
WORD OF GOD!" And that's what he's done ever since. Max also insists that
he wife doesn't question his authority anymore.
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>From: iac...@cs.umn.edu (Danny Iacovou)
Date: 19 Dec 90 14:34:37 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Max is sometimes the most colorfull of the group. It always cracks
me up the way he (and the audiance) tells on how his wife would nag
him:
Max (with the aid the audiance): "Get a joooooooooooooob Max!"
Max : "You know what I did next?
IIIIIIIIIIII let her hav'it (smacks his own hand for effect)"
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>From: car...@icase.edu (Richard Carter)
Date: 17 Dec 90 16:06:25 GMT
Sender: ne...@mcs.anl.gov
How about the Burma shave approach? At one campus, a couple of people
hand him a card with a single word printed on it. At the next campus,
he gets the next word, etc. Ideally, we should get more and more people
to hand him cards as time passes (only one word per campus, though.)
Any ideas on the perfect sentance to give him?
A meaner idea (which I don't really feel guilty about after hearing
his views on women, rape, and slavery) is to have someone strike up a
conversation with him after claiming to be a demon named Gnirut
inhabiting the body of a college student who engaged in too much
fooo-rnication. At each successive campus a new person could claim to
be the demon and pick up the conversation exactly where the last one left off.
We could probably really convince him he had a direct line to the devil.
Perhaps the devil is having second thoughts about his line of work,
and wants Brother Jed to act as an intermediary while he negotiates
a settlement with God that will make him an angel again? ( Would God go
for this deal if the devil offered a 10% cut of all souls collected? 25% ?
How about 50%, and thats my final offer? Ok, all of them except the
fooo-rnicators? ) :-)
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>From: tn...@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff)
Date: 18 Dec 90 08:31:45 GMT
Reply-To: tn...@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff)
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| PLEASE DON'T GET MAD |
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| AT THOSE SOULS YOU SAVED |
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| BUT THEY FILLED YOUR VAN |
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| WITH BURMA SHAVE |
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From ne...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Mon Dec 17 17:37:31 1990
id AA17657; Mon, 17 Dec 90 17:37:29 -0500
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 90 16:37:26 -0600
From: Gerry Neal <ne...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
(U. of Illinois)
Well, favorite Jed and Cindy story. Once when he was at the U of I, and was
preaching against the HO-MO-SEX-U-AL-SSSS, one of 'em grabbed him from behind
and tried to dry-hump him. Jed lost it, and chased him across the quad.
Throwing coins at cindy was always considered the thing to do.
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>From: jo...@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones)
Date: 18 Dec 90 19:43:06 GMT
Sender: ne...@ns-mx.uiowa.edu
As a Jed Smock watcher from way back, the formation of this newsgroup
brings warmth to my soul. I first met Jed in the mid 1970's at the U. of
Illinois, and it was heartwarming to discover that my move to Iowa hadn't
cut me off from that fine personage. Since joining the faculty at Iowa,
I've only called the police a few times when Jed or his minions got too
loud outside my office window.
I like the proposed plan of action for haunting Brother Jed and company,
but I have a plan of my own that I'd like to put into practice someday.
I want to find a team of people with voice training comparable to Brother
Jed and company to stand near him and read "The Hunting of the Snark", an
epic poem by the Reverend Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, better known as Lewis
Carroll.
I think that Jed and Co would enjoy this poem because it makes about as
much sense as the theology they espouse.
Doug Jones
jo...@herky.cs.uiowa.edu
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>From: j...@berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Date: 18 Dec 90 17:56:05 GMT
Organization: Berserkeley
___
__ Michelle Shocked has a song called "The Campus Crusade," about
_ Brother Jed and Sister Cindy. I heard it on a radio broadcast
from the Berklee Performance Center, on WBCN, Boston, March
17th, 1989. Unfortunately, my tape chopped off the beginning
of the song. (If anyone has a good copy, please contact me.)
___
__ Sister Cindy says (in the song) "Ah was a hower among hower-
_ mungers." Brother Jed puts down some paper cups and steps on
them, saying, "These are the Arab states when Jesus comes
back." He gives an extra twist of the heel for the cup that
represents Palestine.
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>From: tar...@athena.mit.edu (Ronald G Lovejoy)
Date: 18 Dec 90 20:50:18 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
I was visiting the University of Michigan back in 1987 when I first encountered
Brother Jed. He was with this **really** old blind guy with liver spots all
over his face and they were both preaching in the diag.
The old guy, Brother Hubert, had a radio program in the Detriot area for
quite some time (I think hes dead now) and he invited Brother Jed up to Michigan
to preach to the Godless heathen pagans at UM. They set up camp on the north
side of the diag and began preaching. The one thing I was impressed with was
that Brother Hubert had been able to memorize almost all of the New Testament
before he went blind; he was good.
Anyway, Brother Jed came up first and started putting down the Catholic Church
and the Pope, saying that everyone involved with it is going STRAIGHT TO HELL,
that 80% of the Catholic priests are gay and like little boys, and that the Pope is the Antichrist.
It gets better. They were able to attract a huge crowd of students, who were
there mostly for the entertainment. Brother Jed noticed that a lot of the
women there were wearing shorts and skimpy tops (It was very hot that day), and
started in on them, calling them whores and sluts for dressing that way and
leading young men into lives of sin. Many of them objected strongly to that
accusation, after which Brother Hubert started quoting scriptures on the evils
of Jezebel and Delilah.
Later on, while telling us about the evils of following religions other than
his own, he reserved special bile for Eastern religions. An Indian woman
stood up and called called him intolerant and, I think, racist. Jed asked her
what religion she was. "Hindu", she replied. "You worship COWS!" Jed screamed
back.
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>From: geor...@rex.cs.tulane.edu (George Georgiou)
Date: 20 Dec 90 00:56:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
At LSU few years back he said something like:
--"Anal sex is like putting gas for the car through the exhaust pipe."
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>From: wb9...@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Date: 20 Dec 90 17:34:56 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
One rather hot day, I think my freshman year (fall 76), he was busily
flaming people who were communist/pagan/drunken/drug-abusing/socialist/
humanist/catholic/atheist/masturbating/gay/lesbian/fornicators (does
that about cover it?), a rather leggy and attractive looking young lady
wearing some VERY short, tight, shorts and not much of a top came
sauntering past. She was really diverting the attention of the male
Jed-bashers away from him, let me tell you. Jed ran over to her, grabbed
her by the arm and started yelling at her about how obscenely she was
dressed, etc., and that she was obviously a slutty, fornicating
whore.
(Mmmmm, my type of girl.....)
The girl would have none of that and just started wailing on him,
physically mind you, smacking him really hard about the head and
neck. The crowd applauded, and nobody lifted a hand to help poor
Jed. She finally backed off him and walked away leving Jed in
a pile, reduced to mere self-defense by raising his arms in front
of his face to deflect the attack. A rather ruffled, bruised
and bloodied Jed LEFT.
I don't know who she was; I never saw her again. Some people suggested
that she had been paid to do this by some of the more serious
avowed Jed-haters and that she was a plant who had a black belt
in karate or was talented in some other form of martial arts.
As for Max Lynch, he told the story here at Purdue that he was a Math
Prof. at Indiana State University (Terre Haute) and was fired for
preaching in the classroom. Someone previously gave the bottom line
of his "Max, Get a Job!" story, about his wife yelling at him
because they had no bucks. If you ever see Max, get him to tell you
this one - it is possibly one of his most entertaining.
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>From: phi...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Phillip Calvin)
Date: 20 Dec 90 03:12:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Jed is ranting on and on about how sex is bad, people who have sex
are bad, sinners etc. He is screaming about how god is watching
everyone, looking down on sinners, down on people who have sex, etc
He says that god is checking everybody out. There is a huge circle
of people around him, mostly chuckling at his inane comments. No
sooner had he finished the 'god is checking everyone out' comment
than a woman steps out of the crowd, rips the snaps on her blouse
open, and bares her large breasts. She says, "Check these out,
Brother Jed!" He was caught off guard, and paused for a split second.
Just a split second. But it was enough. Everyone laughed over
him as he screamed "Sinner!, Sinner!". The woman laughed and walked
away.
It happened at Michigan State, sometime before 1987.
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>From: mpm...@unix.cis.pitt.edu (metlay)
Date: 19 Dec 90 16:04:38 GMT
Organization: Atomic City Records, Pittsburgh, PA
Oh, MAN , does this bring back memories. I was at Oberlin College in the early
1980s, at a time when sexual freedom was at its pre-AIDS height and Oberlin
was renowned for being at the forefront of the sexual revolution (first coed
classes, first woman bachelor's degree, first black woman's bachelor's, first
coed dorms without chaperoning, etc) and had been for over a century: and Jed
told us that of all the campuses he visited (outside of Florida, of course),
Oberlin was the one that needed his "help" most.
And no, Jed is NOT a fool. I tried a few theological questions on him, and he
was slicker than a used condom. Eventually, over the three visits to Oberlin
that I saw, I learned not even to try reasoning with him; none of it sank in
anyway. So I eventually began quoting various books to him; the Necronomicon
went over okay, but the chapter on Jesus from the Koran set him back on his
ass. A friend of mine put on a T-shirt that said "God" on it, climbed a tree
near where he was preaching, and (being a body builder) effortlessly hung
himself from it in an attitude of crucifixion. Jed's comment was, "Oh, that's
VERY funny!"
But "Holy Hubert" Lindsey was not funny, he was frightening. He still had his
sight back then, and I hadn't known that he'd gone blind. It's my belief that
his own hatred burned out his eyes. He said that true Christians would thank
the Nazis as they were being put into the ovens, and that Hitler was a better
person than the Jews he burned. He lowered women to the status of chattel
slavery, slandered Muslims and agnostics, and went a long way toward building
my current utterly unreasoning distaste for fundamentalist Christianity. The
very volume of hate that poured out of him was terrifying-- it almost literally
stank, like rotten meat falling off bones and riddled with maggots.
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>From: ktho...@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson)
Date: 19 Dec 90 06:16:10 GMT
Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Two totally ridiculous, pretty fuzzy memories of Jed, from
circa 1984 at University of VA:
-- he was baiting us all about our rampant materialism. Someone pointed out
that Jed had driven onto campus in some sort of fancy car -- Caddy comes
to mind, but not sure, but Jed didn't deny it one way or another. So
harrasser accused Jed of hyprocisy, and he replied: "I don't *have* to
live by everyone else's rules. I am superhuman!". He looked like he
meant it :).
-- "Oral sex is like eating pizza through your nose"
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>From: j...@shades.cis.ufl.edu (Joseph N. Wilson)
Date: 19 Dec 90 16:53:36 GMT
Organization: University of Florida CIS dept.
FSU Union Fall 1975 or 76. Jed preached on the steps of the Moore auditorium.
A great stage for him: four to five feet above a guaranteed crowd at every
class change. Right in front of the Cafeteria, so you could feed and listen
at the same time.
Jed stayed for several weeks in late fall. I was surprised to see him later
at UVa in the 80s. Jed was a yearly fixture, just like Ron of "Ron Art," they
guy who could paint a landscape in one minute flat. His paintings always had
three white birds in them. I asked this guy (who looked like a Rasta) what the
birds were for. His reply: "The Holy trinity, mon."
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>From: lsm...@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Taylorism" Smith)
Date: 20 Dec 90 00:54:39 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
The Destroyers (does anyone else remember them going by this name?) were at
U of MN as early as 1978, probably earlier. It was one of those things
returning students would tell to their high school pals. Sorta like, "College
life is sure weird! Just wait."
My favorite Jedism was something like:
"I say you're a sissy and she's a tomboy!"
The other memorable Jed eevent was when Pete Wagner organized the "God Squad".
A bunch of students dressed in military uniforms and carrying hockey sticks
showed up and took up positions around Jed. When anyone started to heckle
members of the group would aim their hockey stick at the heckler. On their
right shoulders were insignia that said "God Squad."
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>From: jjoh...@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (James R. Johnson)
Date: 19 Dec 90 22:54:47 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University (IRCC)
A good follow up to this is the story I saw unfold during my ohio-state
academic career #1 (1980-84)...A pretty, young girl was walking across the
oval and Jed was on one of his tirades about evil college students and not
accepting Jesus...he lashed out at her: "You there, you haven't accepted
JEEEEZZUSSS...You are going to burn in hell!!!"...her response: "No I
havent accepted Jesus...I'm Jewish!!!" and before he could take off on a
tirade on that she turned on her heel and continued on her way. Jed kinda
lost his momentum and returned to the scriptures and discontinued
editorializing for the day.
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>From: gba...@x102c.harris-atd.com (Gary Bastin 60293)
Date: 19 Dec 90 21:09:15 GMT
Organization: Harris Corporation GSS, Melbourne, Florida
I remember seeing Jed Smock at the University of Kentucky in the
mid to late 70's. I graduated from UK in December 77, so he was
active at least a year or two before that for sure. He always
drew a crowd in the old Free Speech area on the hill above the
student center around lunch time. He tried moving to the plaza
outside the Patterson Office Tower, but wound up back in the
Free Speech area.
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>From: jes...@milton.u.washington.edu (Kathleen Hunt)
Date: 19 Dec 90 04:40:21 GMT
I remember Jed & Cindy quite fondly because they were always so entertaining
when they came to Oberlin College. Oberlin is a very liberal place (or
was a few years ago, anyway), and virtually nobody took them seriously.
Instead, everyone seemed to view B.J. & S.C. as a sort of vaudeville act.
We'd all chant along with him when he said "LAAAAKES...OOOF...FI-YER!!!!"
B.J. always seemed pretty disappointed in us, because Oberlin was actually
founded as a missionary college, way back when....
We usually found it pretty easy to throw Brother Jed off-stride, usually
by having two lesbians leap on each other and start making out, right there
in the front row.
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>From: scr...@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Stephen K Crume)
Date: 19 Dec 90 23:10:30 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
I have the somewhat dubious honor of residing merely two doors
down from the College Community Church--Pastor: Jed Smock. Unfortunately,
we hear nary a peep out of them; our landlord theorized that Jed and Cindy
may be wary of raising h-e-l-l so close to their home turf.
Bible studies are 7pm Wed, services 11am Sunday( in case anyone wants
to make a roadtrip ;-)
Here's an address:
College Community Church
George Jed Smock
2346 Summit Street
Columbus, Oh 43202
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>From: tur...@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner)
Date: 19 Dec 90 20:02:14 GMT
Organization: University of Florida Psychology Department
On the question of who funds Jed: Jed's been to South Africa three times,
according to my sources. He has in the past received money from
the South African government. Someone should try to pin him down on that.
Jed-lore: One of the few instances of someone really shutting Jed down
occurred two years ago. He was giving his canned South-Africa-is-a-
paradise-for-blacks spiel. Finally, a big guy, about 6'3", 200 lbs, white,
full beard, stepped out of the crowd and pointed his finger at Jed.
"Everything you've said is a god-damned lie!" he said, in an unmistakable
South African accent. "I'm from Cape Town, and you are a god-damned
liar!" Then he turned around and walked off. Jed was quiet for a minute,
then starting preaching the bible.
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>From: her...@sctc.com (William R. Herndon)
Date: 19 Dec 90 03:29:57 GMT
Organization: Secure Computing Technology Corporation
Well, when I was at University of Texas, Jed and Cindy used to show up
every year, like clockwork, the week before spring break.
In the three years that I heard him speak, I never heard him say that
Cindy had been "saved" in Austin. On the other hand, Cindy's stock
story about her seeing the light, was always one of the most entertaining
bits that they did, mostly because the crowd could recite the story with
her. You know the one. It starts out:
I want you all to know that I was a sinnah!! I was godless!!
I was a... ( and the crown shouts with her ) -
TEEEEEENAAAAGE DISCO QUEEEEEEN!!!!!
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>From: asla...@cs.umn.edu (Brian Aslakson)
Date: 23 Dec 90 10:50:37 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
>From the intro by Sister Cindy Smock:
...I quickly fell for the lies of my University of Florida teachers.
We have been married since July 30, 1983 and I have never seen him commit one
sin.
His late father was head of the English Department at Indiana State University.
That is where Jed earned a B.S. in Social Studies, a M.S. in U.S. History and
did postgraduate work in counseling and psychology. He taught for five years
at the junior high, high school and college levels.
He often speaks for several hours each afternoon on campus and then holds
nightly meetings in a local church.
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>From: haw...@adobe.COM (Steve Hawley)
Date: 20 Dec 90 22:08:03 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Brother Jed shows up at least once a year at Oberlin College (at least while
I was there). Several times he has been invited to speak to the LGBU
(Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Union) and consequently act as the epitome of
homophobia and intolerance. Seems he shows up for these talks wearing a
dust mask...
My most vivid memory is that of a contingent from Harkness (a vegetarian CO-OP)
who came out and writhed naked in a circle around Sister Cindy.
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>From: car...@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Mike Carter)
Date: 21 Dec 90 15:50:03 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Jed and Cindy often visit CU Boulder, and in the Spring of '82 a coed that
I knew caught him off guard as well. This isn't a FOAF, I was there, and
the Colorado Daily had a picture as well.
Jed was into a heated frenzy about all the women in the audience being whores,
etc. When this coed drops her drawers and panties, turns around and the
caption of the photo in the paper was "MOON OVER BROTHER JED". Jed was
absolutely speechless for as long I have seen him, 30 seconds or so. The
crowd was also fairly taken back and he never did get frenzied again that day.
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>From: lan...@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu (Al Landeck)
Date: 24 Dec 90 16:37:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
I have seen Jed probably 6 or 7 times, here are a couple remeberances:
1) A crowd of Frat boys, in response to Sister Cindy saying (in a way that
we can all remember), "HOMOOO-SEX-UALITEEEE", started doing the
Hookie-Pookie, "You put your Fist in, you pull your fist out..."
2) Brother Max, or Mad Max as we called him, getting kissed by a member
of the Gay Alliance and told he was loved. I'm surprised
Max survived the apoplectic fit he went into.
3) Someone standing up and quoting to Cindy the passage from the bible
that talks about not suffering a woman to preach, or some such
thing, and watching Jed get all flustered in coming to her defence.
4) Hearing Jed and Cindy on a local radio talk show when they were pushing
his book. I couldn't believe that he actually advocates as punishment
for disobediant children - STONING, we aren't talking drugs here folks.
How biblical...
Did anyone see him and Cindy when they were on the Donahue show?
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>From: tur...@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner)
Date: 22 Dec 90 19:20:03 GMT
Organization: University of Florida Psychology Department
Max Lynch claims a B.S. in physics, among other things. He uses the fact in
order to establish his credentials as a scientist as he tries to "debunk"
evolution. Naturally, he provides "logical" proof for the correctness of
creationism. It's Max at his worst.
The "firing" story is really pretty good, and the story that follows: how
he tried to take the case of his firing to the Supreme Court. I'll get
the details the next time he's in town, which is usually in the second
or third week of January.
Max claims the ability to call upon god to "silence god's enemies." I have
seen this: Max will approach a persistent heckler and warn the evildoer to
shut up or suffer the consequences. Naturally, this encourages the heckler
to greater heights. Max will point his finger at the person, scream for
divine intercession, and begin to "speak in tongues." I've seen him go
through this about three times, without successfully silencing anyone.
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