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tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november oscar
victor echo mike bravo echo romeo golf oscar lima foxtrot oscar sierra
charlie alpha romeo alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike alpha papa
alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha
november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo victor india charlie tango oscar romeo echo charlie hotel oscar mike
india kilo echo bravo romeo alpha victor oscar echo charlie hotel oscar
romeo oscar mike echo oscar golf oscar lima foxtrot oscar sierra charlie
alpha romeo lima india mike alpha foxtrot oscar xray tango romeo oscar tango
oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie
hotel alpha romeo lima india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar
mike echo oscar hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo
tango alpha november golf oscar echo charlie hotel oscar lima india mike
alpha oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha
charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo
oscar mike echo oscar tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel
alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo golf oscar lima
foxtrot oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo echo charlie hotel oscar charlie
hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra
charlie alpha romeo lima india mike alpha india november delta india alpha
mike india kilo echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha echo charlie hotel oscar
charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel
oscar tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo
oscar lima india mike alpha india november delta india alpha echo charlie
hotel oscar hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo
tango alpha november golf oscar echo charlie hotel oscar lima india mike
alpha oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha
charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo
oscar mike echo oscar november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo victor india charlie tango oscar romeo echo
charlie hotel oscar mike india kilo echo bravo romeo alpha victor oscar echo
charlie hotel oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima
india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar victor
india charlie tango oscar romeo india november delta india alpha charlie
hotel alpha romeo lima india echo tango alpha november golf oscar oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar mike echo oscar echo charlie hotel
oscar charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar tango echo lima
oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo india november delta
india alpha kilo india lima oscar echo charlie hotel oscar bravo romeo alpha
victor oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha victor
india charlie tango oscar romeo oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo echo
charlie hotel oscar charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar
tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar mike echo oscar
oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo echo charlie hotel
oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo echo charlie hotel oscar charlie
hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra
charlie alpha romeo charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar
tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar lima
india mike alpha india november delta india alpha echo charlie hotel oscar
hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo tango alpha
november golf oscar echo charlie hotel oscar lima india mike alpha oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel
alpha romeo lima india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike
echo oscar xray romeo alpha yankee romeo oscar mike echo oscar alpha lima
papa hotel alpha yankee alpha november kilo echo echo romeo oscar mike echo
oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo echo charlie
hotel oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo alpha lima papa hotel alpha
lima india mike alpha papa alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango echo lima
alpha lima papa hotel alpha yankee alpha november kilo echo echo alpha lima
papa hotel alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo kilo india
lima oscar echo charlie hotel oscar echo charlie hotel oscar tango alpha
november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november oscar victor echo
mike bravo echo romeo golf oscar lima foxtrot oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike alpha papa alpha papa
alpha hotel oscar tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha november oscar
victor echo mike bravo echo romeo oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo victor
india charlie tango oscar romeo echo charlie hotel oscar mike india kilo
echo bravo romeo alpha victor oscar echo charlie hotel oscar romeo oscar
mike echo oscar golf oscar lima foxtrot oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo
lima india mike alpha foxtrot oscar xray tango romeo oscar tango oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel
alpha romeo lima india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike
echo oscar whiskey hotel india sierra kilo echo yankee hotel oscar tango
echo lima india november delta india alpha sierra india echo romeo romeo
alpha kilo india lima oscar echo charlie hotel oscar yankee alpha november
kilo echo echo hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo
tango alpha november golf oscar echo charlie hotel oscar lima india mike
alpha india november delta india alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo
echo romeo delta echo lima tango alpha india november delta india alpha
alpha lima papa hotel alpha sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha india
november delta india alpha echo charlie hotel oscar romeo oscar mike echo
oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha kilo india
lima oscar india november delta india alpha lima india mike alpha oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo echo charlie hotel oscar charlie hotel alpha
romeo lima india echo hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo yankee alpha november kilo echo echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha
november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo kilo india lima oscar echo
charlie hotel oscar echo charlie hotel oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima
india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar sierra
india echo romeo romeo alpha india november delta india alpha echo charlie
hotel oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar alpha
lima papa hotel alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar
tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar lima
india mike alpha india november delta india alpha echo charlie hotel oscar
alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike alpha papa alpha papa alpha
hotel oscar tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike
echo oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo echo
charlie hotel oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar mike echo
oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo echo charlie
hotel oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima
india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar mike
india kilo echo india november delta india alpha kilo india lima oscar echo
charlie hotel oscar echo charlie hotel oscar charlie hotel alpha romeo lima
india echo hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo
oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie
hotel alpha romeo lima india echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar
mike echo oscar delta echo lima tango alpha echo charlie hotel oscar lima
india mike alpha tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha
echo charlie hotel oscar charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel
oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo lima india mike alpha
india november delta india alpha mike india kilo echo alpha lima papa hotel
alpha tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november
oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo golf oscar lima foxtrot oscar sierra
charlie alpha romeo alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike alpha papa
alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha
india november delta india alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo
romeo delta echo lima tango alpha india november delta india alpha alpha
lima papa hotel alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo victor india charlie tango oscar romeo echo
charlie hotel oscar mike india kilo echo bravo romeo alpha victor oscar echo
charlie hotel oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar delta echo lima tango alpha
echo charlie hotel oscar lima india mike alpha tango alpha november golf
oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha india november delta india alpha november
oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo delta echo lima tango alpha india
november delta india alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha alpha lima papa hotel
alpha lima india mike alpha papa alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango echo
lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha india
november delta india alpha echo charlie hotel oscar romeo oscar mike echo
oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha india november
delta india alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo delta
echo lima tango alpha india november delta india alpha alpha lima papa hotel
alpha echo charlie hotel oscar charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india echo
hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar
mike echo oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo echo
charlie hotel oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar mike echo
oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo echo charlie
hotel oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo alpha lima papa hotel alpha
lima india mike alpha papa alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango echo lima
alpha lima papa hotel alpha papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa hotel
alpha papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha alpha lima papa
hotel alpha lima india mike alpha papa alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango
echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa
hotel alpha papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha alpha lima
papa hotel alpha lima india mike alpha papa alpha papa alpha hotel oscar
tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha uniform november india foxtrot
oscar romeo mike november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo india
november delta india alpha foxtrot oscar xray tango romeo oscar tango oscar
sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar mike echo oscar mike india kilo echo
november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo victor india charlie tango oscar romeo echo charlie hotel oscar mike
india kilo echo bravo romeo alpha victor oscar echo charlie hotel oscar
romeo oscar mike echo oscar india november delta india alpha november oscar
victor echo mike bravo echo romeo delta echo lima tango alpha india november
delta india alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha foxtrot oscar xray tango romeo
oscar tango oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo xray romeo alpha yankee tango
alpha november golf oscar romeo oscar mike echo oscar oscar sierra charlie
alpha romeo tango alpha november golf oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo
sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india
echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar romeo oscar
mike echo oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo echo
charlie hotel oscar oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo mike india kilo echo
india november delta india alpha kilo india lima oscar echo charlie hotel
oscar zulu uniform lima uniform uniform november india foxtrot oscar romeo
mike lima india mike alpha uniform november india foxtrot oscar romeo mike
uniform november india foxtrot oscar romeo mike november oscar victor echo
mike bravo echo romeo india november delta india alpha foxtrot oscar xray
tango romeo oscar tango oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar mike
echo oscar mike india kilo echo lima india mike alpha india november delta
india alpha mike india kilo echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha uniform
november india foxtrot oscar romeo mike november oscar victor echo mike
bravo echo romeo india november delta india alpha foxtrot oscar xray tango
romeo oscar tango oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar mike echo
oscar mike india kilo echo zulu uniform lima uniform uniform november india
foxtrot oscar romeo mike lima india mike alpha uniform november india
foxtrot oscar romeo mike uniform november india foxtrot oscar romeo mike
november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo india november delta india
alpha foxtrot oscar xray tango romeo oscar tango oscar sierra charlie alpha
romeo romeo oscar mike echo oscar mike india kilo echo lima india mike alpha
india november delta india alpha mike india kilo echo alpha lima papa hotel
alpha uniform november india foxtrot oscar romeo mike november oscar victor
echo mike bravo echo romeo india november delta india alpha foxtrot oscar
xray tango romeo oscar tango oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo romeo oscar
mike echo oscar mike india kilo echo lima india mike alpha india november
delta india alpha mike india kilo echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha india
november delta india alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo
delta echo lima tango alpha india november delta india alpha alpha lima papa
hotel alpha mike india kilo echo india november delta india alpha kilo india
lima oscar echo charlie hotel oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india
mike alpha papa alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango echo lima alpha lima papa
hotel alpha echo charlie hotel oscar charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india
echo hotel oscar tango echo lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo charlie
hotel alpha romeo lima india echo hotel oscar tango echo lima alpha lima
papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar lima india mike alpha india
november delta india alpha echo charlie hotel oscar hotel oscar tango echo
lima oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo tango alpha november golf oscar echo
charlie hotel oscar lima india mike alpha oscar sierra charlie alpha romeo
sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india
echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar ...

Matthew T. Russotto

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lima
--
Matthew T. Russotto russ...@pond.com
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue."

Alessandro

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wr <wra...@XXXgmx.deXXX> scritto nell'articolo
<7jrev2$97n$1...@news.online.de>...

> tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november
oscar

---SNIPPED---

> sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima india
> echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar ...
>


haddock? :-)

--
Alessandro

brian tivol

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"wr" <wra...@XXXgmx.deXXX> writes:

> tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november oscar

[snip]

SPOILER:
.
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.
25
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.
.
.
20
.
.
.
.
15
.
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.
10
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8
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5
4
3
and...

The next word is "puzzle".

If you take that sentence, remove all non-letter characters, and
replace each letter with an appropriate word from our favorite
phonetic alphabet, you'll get "tango hotel echo november...". Repeat
that process a second and third time, and you'll find the text that we
were presented with.

--brian

Jellybean Stonerfish

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Jun 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/11/99
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In article <n9b909q...@contents-vnder-pressvre.mit.edu> , brian tivol
<ti...@mit.edu> wrote:

>The next word is "puzzle".
>
>If you take that sentence, remove all non-letter characters, and
>replace each letter with an appropriate word from our favorite
>phonetic alphabet, you'll get "tango hotel echo november...". Repeat
>that process a second and third time, and you'll find the text that we
>were presented with.


yes, you are right...of course i did it in reverse to get the answer. The
first occurence of 'zulu' is what made me suspect that there was something
strange going on. And then another 'zulu' farther down made me suspect the
word puzzle. I then removed the spaces, replaced every word with a letter
and a space and did that process a couple of times.

This one was kind of fun.

rick

wr

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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no it's not lima and ...

it's also not india, mike or alpha

Matthew T. Russotto schrieb in Nachricht ...

Alessandro

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Alessandro <PARISr...@tiscalinet.it> scritto nell'articolo
<01beb43b$0f27f6a0$4e5cbfc3@default>...

> wr <wra...@XXXgmx.deXXX> scritto nell'articolo
> <7jrev2$97n$1...@news.online.de>...
> > tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november
> oscar
>
> ---SNIPPED---

>
> > sierra india echo romeo romeo alpha charlie hotel alpha romeo lima
india
> > echo alpha lima papa hotel alpha romeo oscar mike echo oscar ...
> >
>
>
> haddock? :-)

Oooopppsssss, my ISP is working again - Cheers wr

>

I expect that starting from any of the 26 words you will, sooner or later
come out with a sequence that will repeat indefinitly. Which is the word
that generates the shorter sequence?


--
Alessandro

wr

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>I expect that starting from any of the 26 words you will, sooner or later
>come out with a sequence that will repeat indefinitly. Which is the word
>that generates the shorter sequence?
>
>
>--
>Alessandro

not so difficult ... just think selfreferential :)))


hint follows
...
...
...

tango = t
alpha=a
november=n
golf=g
oscar=o

:))))))) tango ?!?

and still
tango= t

wr

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brian tivol schrieb in Nachricht ...

>"wr" <wra...@XXXgmx.deXXX> writes:
>
>> tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november
oscar
>
>[snip]
>
>SPOILER:
>.
>.
>.
>.
>25
>.
>.
>.
>.
>20
>.
>.
????????
I couldn't see your solution ... so I had to go to DEJA-news ... and YES ...
you are right ... the next word is "puzzle" :)))

Martin

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wr <wra...@XXXgmx.deXXX> wrote in message
news:7jrev2$97n$1...@news.online.de...

> tango alpha november golf oscar alpha lima papa hotel alpha november oscar
> victor echo mike bravo echo romeo golf oscar lima foxtrot oscar sierra
> charlie alpha romeo alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike alpha papa
> alpha papa alpha hotel oscar tango echo lima alpha lima papa hotel alpha
> november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo oscar sierra charlie
alpha
> romeo victor india charlie tango oscar romeo echo charlie hotel oscar mike
<snip>

Boring?

Alessandro

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wr <wra...@XXXgmx.deXXX> scritto nell'articolo
<7jsf2j$ksj$1...@news.online.de>...

> >I expect that starting from any of the 26 words you will, sooner or
later
> >come out with a sequence that will repeat indefinitly. Which is the word
> >that generates the shorter sequence?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Alessandro
>
> not so difficult ... just think selfreferential :)))

> tango = t
> alpha=a
> november=n
> golf=g
> oscar=o
>
> :))))))) tango ?!?
>
> and still
> tango= t

That's not so WR because after

tango alpha november golf oscar

(which codes tango) you need to go on with all other letters you encounter
and hence you must move to code 'alpha', then 'november' and so on.

What I meant was probably PAPA:


papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha papa alpha papa alpha
alpha lima papa hotel alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike

alpha ...

In the above sequence, I still haven't identified the complete pattern.
See what I mean?


--
Alessandro

Jan Uhre

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Jun 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/14/99
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[SNIP]

>That's not so WR because after
>

>tango alpha november golf oscar

>(which codes tango) you need to go on with all other letters you encounter
>and hence you must move to code 'alpha', then 'november' and so on.
>
>What I meant was probably PAPA:

>papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha papa alpha papa alpha
>alpha lima papa hotel alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike

>alpha ...
>
>In the above sequence, I still haven't identified the complete pattern.
>See what I mean?
>--
>Alessandro


Wow... well, you're probably right that it *will* be a loop eventually, but
it'll probably be long enough to make the search for a repeated sequence in
PI look easy :o)

--
Jan Uhre
Denmark

"Keyboard error. Press F1 to resume"
MS-DOS

Please remove SP M from reply address.


Paul C Newfield

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I seem to remember from U.S.Naval OCS that the proper spelling is "ALFA",
not "ALPHA"...

Comments..?

wr

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that's irrelevant ... I could have used 26 other words or other phonetic
alFabet's ... the result is the same

Paul C Newfield schrieb in Nachricht <7k2tc2$hi2$1...@junkie.gnofn.org>...

Alessandro

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I'll give it a go :-)

--
Alessandro

Jan Uhre <uhr...@Mpost12.tele.dk> scritto nell'articolo
<7k1fqp$i0l$1...@news.inet.tele.dk>...


> [SNIP]
>
> >That's not so WR because after
> >

> >tango alpha november golf oscar

> >(which codes tango) you need to go on with all other letters you
encounter
> >and hence you must move to code 'alpha', then 'november' and so on.
> >
> >What I meant was probably PAPA:

> >papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha papa alpha papa alpha
> >alpha lima papa hotel alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike

Jellybean Stonerfish

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In article <01beb692$6eb83900$5a5cbfc3@default> , "Alessandro"
<PARISr...@tiscalinet.it> wrote:

>I'll give it a go :-)
>
>--
>Alessandro


I would love to see a mathematical proof. Not just the brute force
approach. Any ideas?

stonerfish


Eric Boesch

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Jun 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/15/99
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PARTIAL SPOILER concerning loops in alpha/tango/etc.

Alessandro wrote:
>
> I'll give it a go :-)
>
> --
> Alessandro
>

> Jan Uhre <uhr...@Mpost12.tele.dk> scritto nell'articolo
> <7k1fqp$i0l$1...@news.inet.tele.dk>...
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > >That's not so WR because after
> > >

> > >tango alpha november golf oscar

> > >(which codes tango) you need to go on with all other letters you
> encounter
> > >and hence you must move to code 'alpha', then 'november' and so on.
> > >
> > >What I meant was probably PAPA:

> > >papa alpha papa alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha papa alpha papa alpha
> > >alpha lima papa hotel alpha alpha lima papa hotel alpha lima india mike

> > >alpha ...
> > >
> > >In the above sequence, I still haven't identified the complete pattern.
> > >See what I mean?
> > >--
> > >Alessandro
> >
> >
> > Wow... well, you're probably right that it *will* be a loop eventually

Try a trivial example of a two-letter alphabet. The code for 0 is 01 and
for
1 is 10. This leads to a well-known sequence:

0->01->0110->01101001...

The nth digit of this sequence is 1 if and only if the binary number n
has an odd number of 1's in it. The sequence does not loop, and I
*assume*
that the much more complicated alpha/bravo case doesn't either.

wr

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loops ? no idea ... just make the problem a little bit easier ...

"new phonetic abc" =

a --> ac
b --> bd

c --> cd
d --> dc

bba --> bd bd ac --> b dc b dc a cd --> b ddccd b ddccd a ccddc --->
b&(sequence(b))...b&(sequence(b))...a&(sequence(a))

or e.g. if your phonetic abc looks like

a --> aba
b --> bca
c --> caa

start with

cba --> c aa b ca a ba --> c aaabaaba b cacaaaba a babcacaa

each original letter creates another sequence the "loop" can only be in the
sequence of the last letter "a" "babcacaa"...

a --> a ba --> a babca a ba --> a ba bca a ba bcacaaaba a ba bca a ba =
ababcaaba bcacaaaba ababcaaba

with a --> aba you get a real quick loop but with a--> ax ; x-->xz ; z-->zy
...n-->ma you get also a loop, but very very late

<imho> ????

Alessandro

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I understand it doesn't make any difference for your puzzle 'wr' but it
does
to me. Can anyone help to know the correct spelling? (ALPHA or ALFA?)

Cheers,

--
Alessandro

wr <wra...@XXXgmx.deXXX> scritto nell'articolo

<7k31am$51u$1...@news.online.de>...

Jan Merolant

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Alessandro heeft geschreven in bericht
<01beb695$6d8b9880$5a5cbfc3@default>...

>I understand it doesn't make any difference for your puzzle 'wr' but it
>does
>to me. Can anyone help to know the correct spelling? (ALPHA or ALFA?)
>
>Cheers,
>
>--
>Alessandro


Accoording to my list of the International
Radio alphabet its ALFA...

(I remember a puzzle of yours in which you used
this alphabet. I forget what the subject was called.)

Ciao, Jan


HTH, Jan

Paul Holland

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Hint on how to solve:
There is no endless recursion. There are no loops. The words form a sentence that has each letter expanded three times into the phoenetic alphabet (BTW: It is "alpha" in the international phoenetic alphabet).

A more detailed description is below.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

How to solve:
The first letter of the message is "TANGO" or just "T". This is expanded twice . (i.e. the letter T becomes:tango alpha november

golf oscar alpha lima  papa hotel alpha november oscar victor echo mike bravo echo romeo golf oscar lima foxtrot oscar sierra

charlie alpha romeo, then A is expanded, then NGO). Once you get the end of oscar sierra ... echo oscar, you will come across the
next letter - on the twelfth line (It will be the one that otherwise doesn't make any sense - which is how I figured it out).

Answer follows:
 
 
 
 
 
 

Answer:
Following the above method, you will see that a sentence is formed.  The sentence is "The next word is puzzle".
Therefore, the next word is papa (or puzzle depending on whether or not the expanding of the "puzzle" continues)

Paul
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wr

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don't ask ... you have access to the internet !!! +phonetic +alphabet
+url:.mil ----->

http://www-cgsc.army.mil/DSA/IOSD/PUBS/ST20-3/st20-3c3.htm

solution ALFA :))) ?should be "official" ???

Alessandro schrieb in Nachricht <01beb695$6d8b9880$5a5cbfc3@default>...

Aakash Mehendale

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Paul Holland wrote:
>
>
> Hint on how to solve:
> There is no endless recursion. There are no loops. The words form a
> sentence that has each letter expanded three times into the
> phoenetic alphabet (BTW: It is "alpha" in the international
> phoenetic alphabet).
>

According to the ITU, it's Alfa. I guess this one could run and run

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