Rainbow six movie?
Thomas
wrote:
>Anybody know if there will be a Rainbow Six movie? When? Actors?
>
>
My vote for actors is Nicholas Cage as Clarc. Tom Jones is a good
actor, but not hard enough for Clarc.
KZRider
"Thomas" <sec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Cage is too young for an R6 Clark. Clark
seems to have been in his mid to late 20s
in 1969 when WR begins. That would put him
in his 50s in R6. Tommy Lee (I'm presuming
that's who you meant and not the Limey
singer) might be the better choice.
Personally, I've always tended to picture
a middle-aged version of Ernest Borgnine
when I was reading.
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>"Thomas" <sec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:23:20 -0700, "Dan" <rsi_co...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >Anybody know if there will be a Rainbow Six movie? When? Actors?
>> My vote for actors is Nicholas Cage as Clarc. Tom Jones is a good
>> actor, but not hard enough for Clarc.
It would have helped your credibility in a nomination, Dan, if you had
twigged to the fact that it is Clark that the actor would be playing.
>Cage is too young for an R6 Clark. Clark
>seems to have been in his mid to late 20s
>in 1969 when WR begins. That would put him
>in his 50s in R6. Tommy Lee (I'm presuming
>that's who you meant and not the Limey
>singer) might be the better choice.
>Personally, I've always tended to picture
>a middle-aged version of Ernest Borgnine
>when I was reading.
I have said it before and I will say it again, Follywood can be very,
very good at aging an actor for the role he/she will play.
They tend to be somewhat less successful in Follywood at de-aging an
actor.
I will also say this again. Given a lousily written script, and
therefore part, Willem Dafoe did an excellent job as Clark once, and
with a better script, closer to the novel, I am confident he would do
a credible job as a lead Clark in R6.
Unfortunately, he is too old, as all of the nominees I have seen so
far, to play Clark in 'Without Remorse'.
OJ III
[G** dammit, I swore off of these 'Who should play Clark' threads.
Pardon me for a senior moment when I forgot that solemn oath.]
[Ernest Borgnine? Yankee Golf Tango Bravo Sierra Mike!!!!]
Bruce Morrison
Dafoe or Jones would be apropriate
Adam Svorai Hoffman
Harrison Ford (who acted as Jack Ryan in Clear and Present Danger).
harry david
maybe a lou diamond phillips as chavez what about it
Geof F. Morris
foxb...@aol.com (Chris Manteuffel), this is all you had to say?
>>[Ernest Borgnine? Yankee Golf Tango Bravo Sierra Mike!!!!]
>
>Okay, now I know a couple of Phonetic Alphabet abbreviations, (BZ, CF,
>FYT, etc.) but I can't figure out YGTBSM. You Got To Be Seriously Mad?
I was confused until you did what you did. Me is the last
word, and the previous one isn't spitting.
GFM
Nohbody
Hmm. Didn't the Wild Weasel test squadron (designation forgotten) use
something similar for their squadron patches, except the acronym being
YGBFKM? I vaguely remember something like that, but don't trust my
memory well enough to make a definitive statement.
Dan "Now if I could remember Zachariah's full name I could make this
sorta on-topic" Poore
Chris Manteuffel
<o...@x-press.net> wrote:
>[Ernest Borgnine? Yankee Golf Tango Bravo Sierra Mike!!!!]
Okay, now I know a couple of Phonetic Alphabet abbreviations, (BZ, CF,
FYT, etc.) but I can't figure out YGTBSM. You Got To Be Seriously Mad?
Chris Manteuffel
There's nothing wrong with teenagers that reasoning with them won't
aggravate.
Paul J. Adam
<foxb...@aol.com> writes
>Okay, now I know a couple of Phonetic Alphabet abbreviations, (BZ, CF,
>FYT, etc.) but I can't figure out YGTBSM. You Got To Be Seriously Mad?
You've Got To Be Sh!tting Me.
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Chris Manteuffel
<Pa...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Okay, now I know a couple of Phonetic Alphabet abbreviations, (BZ, CF,
>>FYT, etc.) but I can't figure out YGTBSM. You Got To Be Seriously Mad?
>
>You've Got To Be Sh!tting Me.
Thanks. Another former grunt comes through.
Lax w matt
the purpose. To most of us, he is Jack Ryan, so why make him change??
Derek
> wrote:
>
> >Anybody know if there will be a Rainbow Six movie? When? Actors?
> >
> >
>
> My vote for actors is Nicholas Cage as Clarc. Tom Jones is a good
> actor, but not hard enough for Clarc.
After playing the game I can't see anyone. All I can see is the face and
voice in the briefings as Clark. Wouldn't think they are the same guy.
Neither if them could act either I bet.
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Klaus Winkler
<home...@internet-zahav.net> wrote:
>Tom Jones is WAY too old (even for Clack ;-)). I think it could be
>Harrison Ford (who acted as Jack Ryan in Clear and Present Danger).
>
Are you talking about Tommy Lee Jones (from the Fugitive etc)?
He is four years younger than Harrison...
Gruß/Regards
Klaus Winkler
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Ogden Johnson III
<klausw...@foni.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:18:48 +0200, Adam Svorai Hoffman
><home...@internet-zahav.net> wrote:
>>Tom Jones is WAY too old (even for Clack ;-)). I think it could be
>>Harrison Ford (who acted as Jack Ryan in Clear and Present Danger).
>Are you talking about Tommy Lee Jones (from the Fugitive etc)?
>He is four years younger than Harrison...
Sigh. Creeping age. I automatically thought that no one would
shorten Tommy Lee Jones' name to Tom Jones for fear of causing
confusion. I forgot that probably one and a goodly part of another
generation have come along since 'Tom Jones' meant either the movie or
the singer. For them, Tom Jones *would* be a reference to Tommy Lee
Jones, and the movie and singer merely parents' or grandparents'
myths/fairy tales. Sigh^3.
OJ III
[And fie on you, Klaus Winkler, for making me realize how ancient and
decrepit I am. Rat Fink!]
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JB
Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger, Tommy Lee Jones would be OK.
JCDu597
"Seinfeld" would be great if he was 10-15 years older. He just looks like the
way I pciture Clark. Dark, brooding, and looking like he could go bear hunting
with a stick.
John C. Baker
(Thomas) wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:23:20 -0700, "Dan" <rsi_co...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Anybody know if there will be a Rainbow Six movie? When? Actors?
>
> My vote for actors is Nicholas Cage as Clarc. Tom Jones is a good
> actor, but not hard enough for Clarc.
I've always seen Michael Ironside as Clark. Williem Dafoe (sp?) was a
disappointment to me.
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the US at the time of Rainbow 6 is Jack Ryan right?
albert
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> Hummmm.....I thought Fowler died in the end of DoH. And the President of
> the US at the time of Rainbow 6 is Jack Ryan right?
> albert
Fowler does not die in DoH, Roger Durling does.
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> <berett...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Hummmm.....I thought Fowler died in the end of DoH. And the President
of
> > the US at the time of Rainbow 6 is Jack Ryan right?
> > albert
>
> Fowler does not die in DoH, Roger Durling does.
>
And the POTUS of R6 is simply "Jack".
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Crash
Cage is kinda young.....maybe somebody new?
John C. Baker <jc...@axe.humboldt.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <36fe841f...@nntpserver.swip.net>, sec...@hotmail.com
> (Thomas) wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:23:20 -0700, "Dan" <rsi_co...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Anybody know if there will be a Rainbow Six movie? When? Actors?
> >
> > My vote for actors is Nicholas Cage as Clarc. Tom Jones is a good
> > actor, but not hard enough for Clarc.
>
> I've always seen Michael Ironside as Clark. Williem Dafoe (sp?) was a
> disappointment to me.
>
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was kinda implicit that Ryan was the President in R6 though...hum...I
thought Fowler's first name wasn't Jack right? And also the end of
Executive Order, Ryan implicitly states that he will run for election
too....
albert
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Duane Smith
I agree, Willem Defoe was not even close to the book character. I will say that Chavez was a VERY good rendition from the book.
As for whomever might be clark, I can not see Cage as Clark, he isn't built right, the voice isn't right by description of clark early on,
and Tommy Lee wouldn't be a good clark either. It would be VERY difficult to pick the right actor for Clark. I am not sure about Ironside
tho, I can't remember him by name, so I don't remember who he is. I would love to work casting for such a movie, but I can tell you, to keep
it truer to the book than the last 3 would take some hard searching for the right people. Schwarzenegger could ALMOST do Clark, except for
one, he is Too built, 2, his accent......Although the build he has might work, I don't think he's Clark character material.
Just my opinions. But, there is always the chance that a newcomer actor might be perfect, someone we might not know about, for Clark.
But as for Defoe, he sucked as Clark, and I was disappointed that Clancy even let allow writers for the screenplay and the director portray
the character of Clark in the manner they did. It was a far cry from the books character.
Ogden Johnson III
wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:50:05 -0600, "Crash" <cr...@bang.com> wrote:
>>I wholeheartedly agree, Willem Dafoe was very disappointing as Clark. Nick
>>Cage is kinda young.....maybe somebody new?
>>John C. Baker <jc...@axe.humboldt.edu> wrote in message
>>> I've always seen Michael Ironside as Clark. Williem Dafoe (sp?) was a
>>> disappointment to me.
>I agree, Willem Defoe was not even close to the book character. I will say that Chavez was a VERY good rendition from the book.
[Snips]
>But as for Defoe, he sucked as Clark, and I was disappointed that Clancy even let allow writers for the screenplay and the director portray
>the character of Clark in the manner they did. It was a far cry from the books character.
Time for my regular rant. ;-> Willem Dafoe played Clark,
competently, as the screenwriter[s] wrote the part and as the director
directed the part. The fact that Clark, as written and directed,
sucked and bore no relation to the character in TC's book was nothing
that Dafoe could either control or overcome. Movies are a director's
medium [just as TV is a producer's medium, cf. Roddenberry and ST-TOS
et seq]. Dafoe was, and is, perfectly capable of playing Clark as
written by TC [as are many of the actors that have been mentioned in
this eternal 'Who should play Clark' thread. That's what movie
actors do, they bring the visions of directors to life.
Unfortunately, he was never given the chance. For that I, as did you,
place the blame exactly where it lies. With the screen writers and
the director; not, unlike you, with Dafoe also.
Which brings me to a resurrected snip.
>Just my opinions. But, there is always the chance that a newcomer actor might be perfect, someone we might not know about, for Clark.
As I said long ago, in an Ideal World [tm] WR would have been our
first film introduction to Clark, and Clark in that movie would have
been played by a young 'unknown', one who through the magic of the
make-up arts, could age as required in later movies. Unfortunately,
SoAF is next up, once again requiring the mature, full-blown Clark,
and my Ideal World [tm] fantasy is for naught.
OJ III
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you. If he isn't, why embarrass the poor bastard." -- Tom Clancy
ceri.jones
herman! :-) Whoever gets the role has to have 'smart' eyes, like Nike Cage
or Sam Elliot (roadhouse, fatal beauty, etc). I can't remember the guy's
name (i have trouble remembering my own) but he played the squadron leader
in 'Space above and beyond', i think he could do it.
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Actr123
Does a SOAF movie require Clark in it? Seems to me he'd be pretty
inconsequential in a big screen version where the real conflict is between Ryan
and the president. Now Dan Murray would be a nice character to have. Too bad
the Hollyweird idiots killed him off (couldn't they have just wounded him -
would it have dramatically affected the story?)
Ogden Johnson III
[Snipped all that went before, including mine]
>Does a SOAF movie require Clark in it? Seems to me he'd be pretty
>inconsequential in a big screen version where the real conflict is between Ryan
>and the president. Now Dan Murray would be a nice character to have. Too bad
>the Hollyweird idiots killed him off (couldn't they have just wounded him -
>would it have dramatically affected the story?)
I prefer the term Follywood, but we're talking from the same page.
;->
And yes, much of SOAF, to come in under 3 hours, will have to be
written off as briefings, i.e., 'our intelligence sources have
discovered ...' - the old Follywood standby, off-screen action told
rather than seen.
OJ III
Aaron B. Yerian
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> Clark should be in his fifties now. How about Clint Eastwood ? On
> the series, True Stories of the Navy Seals, the actor that plays the
> field leader of the Seals would make a good Domingo. He could almost
> pass for Spanish.
the sniper from clear and present danger, the recon marine, he'd be good
Sandy...@excite.com
the series, True Stories of the Navy Seals, the actor that plays the
field leader of the Seals would make a good Domingo. He could almost
pass for Spanish.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:50:05 -0600, "Crash" <cr...@bang.com> wrote:
>I wholeheartedly agree, Willem Dafoe was very disappointing as Clark. Nick
>Cage is kinda young.....maybe somebody new?
>
>
>John C. Baker <jc...@axe.humboldt.edu> wrote in message
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>> In article <36fe841f...@nntpserver.swip.net>, sec...@hotmail.com
>> (Thomas) wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:23:20 -0700, "Dan" <rsi_co...@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >Anybody know if there will be a Rainbow Six movie? When? Actors?
>> >
>> > My vote for actors is Nicholas Cage as Clarc. Tom Jones is a good
>> > actor, but not hard enough for Clarc.
>>
>> I've always seen Michael Ironside as Clark. Williem Dafoe (sp?) was a
>> disappointment to me.
>>
Wesley Gladden
<aye...@mindspring.com> wrote:
<snip bit about who would make a good Domingo Chavez>
>the sniper from clear and present danger, the recon marine, he'd be good
>
>
>
Just to point it out, that WAS Ding :). I think Clark even refered
to him by name once (granted it was shouted over the sound of a
helicoptor and submachine gun fire, but I think he said "Chavez, cover
me!")
And to answer your next question, yes I thought the book was better
:).
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Ogden Johnson III
<aye...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
><Sandy...@excite.com> wrote in message
>> Clark should be in his fifties now. How about Clint Eastwood ? On
>> the series, True Stories of the Navy Seals, the actor that plays the
>> field leader of the Seals would make a good Domingo. He could almost
>> pass for Spanish.
>the sniper from clear and present danger, the recon marine, he'd be good
Two nits.
Ding Chavez was Army - a 'light fighter'. [cf 'Ninja own the night'.
Recon Marines are not snipers. Marine snipers are found in the
Scout/Sniper platoon of the Division Recon Bn. Recon Marines, either
those of the Force Recon Companies of MarForLant/MarForPac [and the
real 'bad-a** dudes' thought of as comparable to the SEALs], or those
of the Division Recon Battalions of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4thMarDiv
[one of which was the home of 'Gunny' Clint Eastwood in 'Heartbreak
Ridge'] are not snipers. Recon's job, Force or Div, is to snoop and
poop, quietly. Blowing away people, either individually by sniping or
wholesale in firefights is not the way to quietly snoop and poop.
OJ III
Lawson Stone
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 22:34:27 -0500, "Aaron B. Yerian"
> <aye...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> <snip bit about who would make a good Domingo Chavez>
>> the sniper from clear and present danger, the recon marine, he'd be good
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Just to point it out, that WAS Ding :). I think Clark even refered
> to him by name once (granted it was shouted over the sound of a
> helicoptor and submachine gun fire, but I think he said "Chavez, cover
> me!")
>
That sniper sequence in CaPD wasn't in the book, but something very similar
was in "Without Remorse" and it was Clark. I wonder if the movie CaPD
borrowed that scene to establish Chavez's talent quickly? Movies do take
certain liberties.
> And to answer your next question, yes I thought the book was better
> :).
>
>
>
> Wesley Gladden
>
> Aurora Force Archive:
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> That sniper sequence in CaPD wasn't in the book, but something very similar
> was in "Without Remorse" and it was Clark. I wonder if the movie CaPD
> borrowed that scene to establish Chavez's talent quickly? Movies do take
> certain liberties.
The introductory scene in the book has Clark and Ding's commander standing by a
target with binoculars trying to spot Ding as he maneuvers in for and takes a
shot. As you said movies do take liberties.
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Ogden Johnson III <o...@x-press.net> wrote in message
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<points again to the fact that he's navy>
uhh, yea, ok, i'll take your word for it =)
Steve Won
>
> <points again to the fact that he's navy>
> uhh, yea, ok, i'll take your word for it =)
Now us jarheads know the difference between the Army and the Marine Corps,
want to pull some witty comment about Marine intelligence outa your hat
Navy? <g>
Steve Won
by a
> target with binoculars trying to spot Ding as he maneuvers in for and
takes a
> shot. As you said movies do take liberties.
No, it doesn't. Clark doesn't meet Chavez until towards the middle of CaPD.
In the beginning, Chavez is just a regular old grunt, 2/17, 7th LID (are
they still around? I don't know my Army units; EO had a sentence about them
having disbanded).
Scott Pizio
> No, it doesn't. Clark doesn't meet Chavez until towards the middle of CaPD.
> In the beginning, Chavez is just a regular old grunt, 2/17, 7th LID (are
> they still around? I don't know my Army units; EO had a sentence about them
> having disbanded).
I don't have the book available but IIRC he is there cherry picking men to send
to the training program. They do not actually meet at this point but the scene
plays out as I said. Again IIRC the first that Clark meets any of the men is
when he goes to Colombia to pull them out.
CBMan
Scott Pizio <spizio...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> I don't have the book available but IIRC he is there cherry picking
men to send
> to the training program. They do not actually meet at this point but
the scene
> plays out as I said. Again IIRC the first that Clark meets any of the
men is
> when he goes to Colombia to pull them out.
>
Nope, Clark never goes to Ft. Ord. The men for the teams are chosen by
others, in Ding's case it was a fake Colonel with a forgettable name.
Clark first meets them at the training area in the Rockies where he
watches Ding sneak up on the guys around a campfire. Ding senses that
someone's there, but can't make him out because Clark's using night
vision goggles and freezes every time he sees Ding's head turn his way.
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> Lawson Stone wrote:
>
>> That sniper sequence in CaPD wasn't in the book, but something very similar
>> was in "Without Remorse" and it was Clark. I wonder if the movie CaPD
>> borrowed that scene to establish Chavez's talent quickly? Movies do take
>> certain liberties.
>
> The introductory scene in the book has Clark and Ding's commander standing by
> a
> target with binoculars trying to spot Ding as he maneuvers in for and takes a
> shot. As you said movies do take liberties.
>
Right. It did remind me a lot of the part in Without Remorse when Clark
stalks up on the Marine (?) commanders to show he can get close enough to
the prison camp to provide eyes for the troops.
>
> --
> Scott P
>
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> stalks up on the Marine (?) commanders to show he can get close enough to
> the prison camp to provide eyes for the troops.
Adimral Maxwell and General Young, GySgt. (?) Irvin. Capitan Albee was
commanding the Marines on the hill. (That, however, was in the middle of the
night at least).
Michael Ellis
> > Right. It did remind me a lot of the part in Without Remorse when Clark
> > stalks up on the Marine (?) commanders to show he can get close enough
to
> > the prison camp to provide eyes for the troops.
>
> Adimral Maxwell and General Young, GySgt. (?) Irvin. Capitan Albee was
> commanding the Marines on the hill. (That, however, was in the middle of
the
> night at least).
>
"How long have you been here?"
"Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!"
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top of my head exactly when.
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"Wesley Gladden" <gla...@email.uah.edu> wrote in message
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> >the sniper from clear and present danger, the recon marine, he'd be good
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Just to point it out, that WAS Ding :). I think Clark even refered
> to him by name once (granted it was shouted over the sound of a
> helicoptor and submachine gun fire, but I think he said "Chavez, cover
> me!")
>
> :).
>
So did I. But, dangit, he called him
a *Marine.* Chavez (book & movie) was a
REAL soldier, dagnabit!
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>
> >> Clark should be in his fifties now. How about Clint Eastwood ? On
> >> the series, True Stories of the Navy Seals, the actor that plays the
> >> field leader of the Seals would make a good Domingo. He could almost
> >> pass for Spanish.
>
>
>
> Ding Chavez was Army - a 'light fighter'. [cf 'Ninja own the night'.
>
> Scout/Sniper platoon of the Division Recon Bn. Recon Marines, either
> those of the Force Recon Companies of MarForLant/MarForPac [and the
> real 'bad-a** dudes' thought of as comparable to the SEALs], or those
> of the Division Recon Battalions of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4thMarDiv
> [one of which was the home of 'Gunny' Clint Eastwood in 'Heartbreak
> Ridge'] are not snipers. Recon's job, Force or Div, is to snoop and
> poop, quietly. Blowing away people, either individually by sniping or
> wholesale in firefights is not the way to quietly snoop and poop.
>
> OJ III
I used to work with a guy who'd been
a recon Marine in Korea. He said the
job was mostly "blowing up outhouses
and freezing your ass off."
Wesley Gladden
wrote:
<snip>
>
>So did I. But, dangit, he called him
>a *Marine.* Chavez (book & movie) was a
>REAL soldier, dagnabit!
>
>--
>Jack
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Okay, so I missed that bit :). I think I was probably half asleep
then....
Ogden Johnson III
wrote:
>> Ridge'] are not snipers. Recon's job, Force or Div, is to snoop and
>> poop, quietly. Blowing away people, either individually by sniping or
>> wholesale in firefights is not the way to quietly snoop and poop.
>>
>> OJ III
>I used to work with a guy who'd been
>a recon Marine in Korea. He said the
>job was mostly "blowing up outhouses
>and freezing your ass off."
It was a trade-off. After being out all night in the boonies freezing
their asses off, Marine recon patrols were allowed to blow up one
outhouse upon their return.
OJ III
[Who probably should have put TINS in front of that, lest some poor
soul take it as gospel.]
Steve Won
> their asses off, Marine recon patrols were allowed to blow up one
> outhouse upon their return.
>
> OJ III
> [Who probably should have put TINS in front of that, lest some poor
> soul take it as gospel.]
Or two Army outhouses.
fk1...@my-deja.com
>
> > On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 14:23:20 -0700, "Dan"
<rsi_co...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Anybody know if there will be a Rainbow Six movie? When? Actors?
> >
> > My vote for actors is Nicholas Cage as Clarc. Tom Jones is a good
> > actor, but not hard enough for Clarc.
>
> I've always seen Michael Ironside as Clark. Williem Dafoe (sp?) was a
> disappointment to me.
>
> --
> John C. Baker; jc...@humboldt.edu
Michael ironside would be a good choice for Clark but I had pictured
him as Bill Henriksen or maybe one of the other army or FBI characters.
Definitely aymond Cruz should play Ding again after playing him in
Clear and Present Danger. The guy Billie from Predator if anyone has
seen it would make a good Vega, if not, Lou Diamond Phillips or
Benjamin Bratt. Wil Gearing has to be Terry O Quinn. If anyone has
heard of an actor named Vladimir Kulich who starred in an episode of
the x-files called dØd kalm you would agree that he would make a good
Popov. If Ronny Cox was a bit younger he could make an excellent John
Brightling but as is the role should go to somebody like Jeffrey De
Munn or malcolm Mc Dowell. Melina Kanakaredes from Providence makes the
perfect Patsy Clark and Sheila Larken a.k.a. Scully's mother in the x-
files would make a good Sandy Clark. Carol Brightling could be Anne
Archer but she doesn't seem to have enough of an evil streak. Jeff
Kober would make a good Malloy given his previous roles. Tim Noonan is
hard because its hard to get a believeable techno wizard who's 6' and
200 lbs.
I'd love to hear what everybody else thinks. Its a pity there aren't
any black characters in the novel because there are so many actors who
would make perfect soldiers for the movie if they weren't black. The
movie anyway would have to get the usual Hollywood politically correct
treatment though because a special forces team with no women or black
soldiers however accurate it may be would cause controversy. Look at
all the army and special forces films there have ever been. They have
to be racially diverse so they don't offend anyone. What a load of crap.
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