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David Lund

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD when they
were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer
was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.

Andrew Toppan

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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David Lund reshaped the electrons to say:

> I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD when they
> were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer
> was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.

Book != Movie. Dan Murray died in the movie CAPD. In the book CAPD
he was never even in Columbia. The book and the movie are NOT the
same.

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Philip Ross Gentile

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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>----------------------------------
> You could mistake the movie as being a different story completely. The
only thing the book got wright were some of the characters names/

Phil


Odd Arne Roth

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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David Lund wrote:
>
> I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

when they
> were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer
> was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.

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Only in the film my friend...


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Brian G Rowell

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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You're not crazy, just getting that piece of crap they called a CAPD movie
confused with the book...In the book scheme of things, Murray is still very much
alive!

Brian

David Lund (dlu...@starnetinc.com) wrote:
: I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD when they

: were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer
: was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.

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Shane Glaseman

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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David Lund wrote:
>
> I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD when they
> were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer
> was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.

Well... I wouldn't call you crazy. However, don't make the mistake of
thinking the movies are accurate recreations/representations of the
novels. In the book version of CAPD, Murray was never in Columbia, and
hence, never in danger (Jack was not in Colombia when Jacobs was killed
there, either); in the movie, both Murray and Jack were there, and
Murray was killed -- more dramatic, in the "wisdom" of the
Hollyweirders, I guess.

Isaac Kendall

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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庇庇 <min...@pop3.hknet.com> wrote in article
<530l9d$o...@ruby.hknet.com>...
> 〈I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD

when they
> 〈were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the
blazer
>
> 〈was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC.
Thanks.
>
> Murray was killed in the movie, but not in the book.
> To revive him, perhaps a Chinese acupuncturist got hold of Murray's body
and
> stuck him full of needles---voila, good as new.
> 庇庇 minmin
> http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/7419/
>

My friend.....please do not confuse the movie with the book. I think we've
all been through this before. The movie CAPD butchered the book. If you
want a good story read CAPD.

It seems obvious that you havn't read SoAF or DoH either cuz Dan was in
them both.

Hope this helps you see the light.

Regards,

Isaac C. Kendall


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Doug Semler

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Oct 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/3/96
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=B1=D3=B1=D3 wrote:
> =

> =A1=B4I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CA=
PD when they
> =A1=B4were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived aft=
er the blazer
> =

> =A1=B4was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by T=
C. Thanks.
> =

> Murray was killed in the movie, but not in the book.

> To revive him, perhaps a Chinese acupuncturist got hold of Murray's bod=
y and


> stuck him full of needles---voila, good as new.

Now we have a PINHEAD as the head of the FBI...just what we need :)
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敏敏

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Oct 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/4/96
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〈I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD when they
〈were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer

〈was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.

Murray was killed in the movie, but not in the book.

To revive him, perhaps a Chinese acupuncturist got hold of Murray's body and


stuck him full of needles---voila, good as new.

庇庇 minmin
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/7419/


敏敏

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Oct 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/4/96
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〈> 〈I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD

〈when they
〈> 〈were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the
〈blazer
〈>
〈> 〈was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC.
〈Thanks.

〈> Murray was killed in the movie, but not in the book.
〈> To revive him, perhaps a Chinese acupuncturist got hold of Murray's body
〈and
〈> stuck him full of needles---voila, good as new.

〈My friend.....please do not confuse the movie with the book. I think we've


〈all been through this before. The movie CAPD butchered the book. If you
〈want a good story read CAPD.
〈It seems obvious that you havn't read SoAF or DoH either cuz Dan was in
〈them both.
〈Hope this helps you see the light.
〈Regards,
〈Isaac C. Kendall

Issac dear, I read all of TC's novels. I know Murray appeared in the sequels. I
only said that he was killed in the movie, NOT in the book :)

Thanks for reminding me, though.

〈Pager: (604) 608-7100


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〈Internet Pager: 148...@pagemart.net

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Craig Harris

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Oct 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/4/96
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Odd Arne Roth <o.r...@shell.no> writes: > David Lund wrote:
> >
> > I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> when they
> > were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer
> > was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Only in the film my friend...
>
> Read the book and youi'll see that he is still alive...

Variable

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Oct 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/5/96
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glas...@courier6.aero.org stated that this was true...

>hence, never in danger (Jack was not in Colombia when Jacobs was killed
>there, either); in the movie, both Murray and Jack were there, and
>Murray was killed -- more dramatic, in the "wisdom" of the
>Hollyweirders, I guess.

Coming from someone working in El Sequndo (The Second?) Cali I'd have to
wonder about the "Hollyweirders" comment. :-) But I do like the preference
for the name.

OTOH, I had just finished reading DOH in which Dan was an "integral" part
when I saw the movie. The line "and we suspend our disbelief" came to mind
while watching that scene. Maybe instead of beating on a deserving Hollyweird
we should beat on TC for letting the screenwriters destroy his story lines.

John
"Astronaut in the weightlessness of pixellated space" -- NP


Anita Arvind Thekdi

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Oct 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/6/96
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On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, David Lund wrote:

> I just started EO and was confued. Wasn't Dan Murray killed in CAPD when they

> were attacked while in Columbia. I thought only Jack survived after the blazer
> was hit by the missile. Am I crazy or was this a major error by TC. Thanks.
>
>

in the movie, not the book!
-at

Zachary Babayco

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Oct 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/6/96
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In article <534m9s$o...@marge.eaglequest.com> wo...@eaglequest.com writes:
>
>
>OTOH, I had just finished reading DOH in which Dan was an "integral" part
>when I saw the movie. The line "and we suspend our disbelief" came to mind
>while watching that scene. Maybe instead of beating on a deserving Hollyweird
>we should beat on TC for letting the screenwriters destroy his story lines.
>
From what I heard, TC didn't have much of a choice in what the
moviemakers did to his book...the contract he signed didn't give him that
much power. I also heard that CaPD was the last TC movie that will be
made...IMO, this is a good thing, because with the exception of HfRO, the
movies weren't all that good.


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Oct 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/7/96
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Zachary Babayco (za...@netcom.com) wrote:
: From what I heard, TC didn't have much of a choice in what the
: moviemakers did to his book...the contract he signed didn't give him that
: much power. I also heard that CaPD was the last TC movie that will be
: made...IMO, this is a good thing, because with the exception of HfRO, the
: movies weren't all that good.

Other comments seem to disagree with you. TC's said that the original
plans to do WR with him as Exec are on hold, someone else quoted a
trade source as saying that CotK is in pre-pro...

Cheers,
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la...@mx.kom.net

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Oct 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/8/96
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From what I've heard and been told, TC has nothing to due with the
screenwriting of any of the "Clancy" movies after HFRO. He apparently didn't
like the way they were doing things and wouldn't do what he requested so he
said he would no longer "endorse" the movies...

This is all hearsey, but that's what I heard, and after the way the last few
movies went, it would seem true, too many big pieces were omitted, for him to
be in on the filming... (case in point Dan Murray being killed...)

In article <534m9s$o...@marge.eaglequest.com>,


wo...@mail.eaglequest.com (Variable) wrote:
>glas...@courier6.aero.org stated that this was true...
>
>>hence, never in danger (Jack was not in Colombia when Jacobs was killed
>>there, either); in the movie, both Murray and Jack were there, and
>>Murray was killed -- more dramatic, in the "wisdom" of the
>>Hollyweirders, I guess.
>
>Coming from someone working in El Sequndo (The Second?) Cali I'd have to
>wonder about the "Hollyweirders" comment. :-) But I do like the preference
>for the name.
>

>OTOH, I had just finished reading DOH in which Dan was an "integral" part
>when I saw the movie. The line "and we suspend our disbelief" came to mind
>while watching that scene. Maybe instead of beating on a deserving Hollyweird
>we should beat on TC for letting the screenwriters destroy his story lines.
>

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