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Kim Chr. Madsen

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Feb 16, 1995, 10:59:48 AM2/16/95
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thom...@gsb016.cs.ualberta.ca (Christopher Thompson) writes:

>Hi all. I'm wondering if anyone else has picked up on a small goof
>in Debt of Honor. For that matter, is it even a goof at all?

It has to be a goof, but a very understandable one, considering the
confusion about the subject...

Consider the number of people who gladly cite a modemspeed of 19200
bps (bits-per-second) as 19200 baud, which is impossible you can't
cram that much information into a telephone line without squeezing the
bits and turning a few knobs (so baud rates in excess of 1200 is
rather impossible to get) -- And remember that for a person who is not
intimately familiar with the technical aspects of modems, the acronym
"bps" could just as easily be interpreted as "bytes per second" (just
as one write Kbytes and Kbits to avoid possible confusion of what Kb
means)...

Regards,
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Kim Chr. Madsen <ki...@ic.dk> : Pingnet/Internet Consult

Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they are open.
-- Sir James Dewar.

T. J. Jardine (Ted)

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Feb 17, 1995, 1:52:48 AM2/17/95
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In earlier articles on this thread the question was asked about whether
19,200 characters per second was possible on a fiber optic link. Thought
perhaps a word of info might be worthwhile. Yes, 19,200 cps does translate
to either 153,600 or 192,000 bps (synchronous at 8 bits per character,
asynchronous at 10 bits (includes two framing bits)). But current T-1
transmission technology provides 1.5xx Megabits per second. Fiber-optic
is nominally at 100 Mbps at present, with Broadband ISDN ringing in (when it
gets here) at 150 or 600 Mbps. So the answer is yes, 19.2 is possible at
the moment with fiber, and even without it. You would require three, perhaps
even four, ISDN B-channels to carry that speed, as these are weighing in at
64 Kbps each. Just FYI.

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Ted Jardine
E-mail: t...@halcyon.com

J.P. Hillenburg

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Feb 17, 1995, 10:08:42 PM2/17/95
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thom...@gsb016.cs.ualberta.ca (Christopher Thompson) writes:
>19200 *characters* per second? That would work out to be 153 600 bits
>per second. Bps is what the average modem or fax machine has it's
>speed measured as. While 19200 bps is certainly reasonable (in fact,
>28800 bps modems are just becomming popular), it's pretty unlikely
>that we'll see speeds in excess of 150 000 bps across phone lines
>any time soon, not without ISDN or some such technology. Certainly,
>they don't make faxes that fast for regular phone lines these days.

Yes, but you must remember that this is generally presumed to be
a few years into the future, and this is also the government,
who would have access to technology not readily available
to normal citizens, due to cost.

Alvin Leung

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Feb 18, 1995, 3:21:41 PM2/18/95
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The info. is correct, but you miss the point. Clark was using a regular
phone line, not a T-1, T-3, OC-3, OC-12 or Broadband ISDN.

I am a journalist. I need to send a 32K text file to my HQ every night. Please,
give me a high bandwidth connection for ten seconds. People may ask what do I
send for the rest of the 8 seconds of connection time.

Alvin

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