What is your favorite character from The Stand? Why?
Phthonos
1-FLAGG
2-LARRY
3-DANYA
Steve Gordon
most realistic character, and he's just...well...my favorite!
Steph Gordon
KaylieWlkr
way that he *wanted* to be a "nice guy" but had this overwhelming streak
of self-interest (the kind of thing that only pisses off people who aren't
you ;) that kept getting in the way.
I loved Nick Andros, just because I tend to like differently-abled (or
maybe I should just say "different") characters. I liked the little girl
Dinah in The Langoliers for the same reason.
I liked Frannie and I really HATED that they cast that whiney brat-pack
excuse of an actress (who'd she blow to get the part) Molly Ringwald in
the miniseries. >:p She ruined that movie for me.
K.
Karen Jacobson
(snip)
>I liked Frannie and I really HATED that they cast that whiney brat-pack
>excuse of an actress (who'd she blow to get the part) Molly Ringwald in
>the miniseries. >:p She ruined that movie for me.
>
>K.
Oh, I agree... I liked Frannie in the book... but Molly Ringwald?
Color me puce. (I just like that word. Puce. Puce, puce, puce.)
Karen, still high from that powdered-sugar doughnut...<g>
Karen Jacobson
djac...@oregontrail.net
http://www.oregontrail.net/~djacobso/k1page.html
Jamie
>I liked Frannie and I really HATED that they cast that whiney brat-pack
>excuse of an actress (who'd she blow to get the part) Molly Ringwald in
>the miniseries. >:p She ruined that movie for me.
Hi, everyone. Just found this NG, but I'm a SK fan from waaaaaaay
back.
Molly Ringwald was the biggest disappointment for me in the movie,
too. I didn't think I was gonna like Gary Sinese (sp?) as Stu either,
but I ended up LOVING him. He did a great job.
Which leads me to my fav character in the book - Stu Redmond. I don't
know exactly why, but I pretty much fell in love with this character.
Actually, this is =by far= my fav SK book. I think I liked all the
characters. <G>
Jamie
Amber (the happy bunny)
of adversity" stuff that everyone likes, but because he was
intelligent, and he looked at things from a different perspective; he
thought about things in a different way.
Even when faced with this bizarre situation, in which Mother Abigail
insisted he had been chosen by God , he still maintained that he did not
believe in God, and looked at it from his own angle.
Also his bond with Tom, his feelings of responsibility towards him,
endeared him to me. I was gutted the first time I read about the
explosion. I couldn't believe SK could do such a thing (silly really, but
it shows how real his characters can become!).
A close second would be Glen. I like his cynical, clinical attitude; the
way he prefers to stand back from the situation and analyse, rather than
get involved. I believe he is SK's main vehicle for authorial comment
throughout the novel, and I like that.
And Tom (M-O-O-N) a lot more than meets the eye - a fascinating
character.
Jonathan A. Frater
Stu Redman. As a species we are concieted and I relate to him the
most. Particulary when he threatens to rip the scientist's containment
suit.
XXX-Madison
log...@inch.com
Steve Ross
Phil Bennett
I particularly liked Stu Redmond, but old Glen was real good too. Stu
to me is an older guy, around his mid-forties and speaks with a quiet
prarie drawl. Gary Sinise was all wrong for the part. I think perhaps
somebody like Tommy Lee Jones would have been perfect for the part, he
can play most parts if he gets a decent script. But my favourite
character doesn't get mentioned enough, Kojack! :-)
gordona
In article <317E09...@starnetinc.com>,
"Bernard J. Farber" <bern...@starnetinc.com> wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Actually, for me, my favorite characters were the Dark Man, and Trash Can
Man.
When I read the book for the first time, I just couldn't believe that they
hadn't won!
Maybe next time.... :)
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I myself liked both Nick Andros and Tom Cullen. I think that their actors did
very well as portraying them. And the fact that Rob Lowe was hot doesn't hurt.
My third favorite was Glen Batemen, he reminded me alot of an older version
of my brother.
Laura . .
.
U
Murielle L. Sey
Gee, I don't know if I've posted to this subject before or not. If I have
indulge me. I'm just so excited because this is almost my fav list too.
I adored Glen Bateman, and I loved Ray Waltson's portrayal of him, though
I didn't think I would. He was such a gem. And I loved the humour of the
character: dry and a little sad.
I loved Tom Cullen. I spent a few tears on him I can tell you. (That's
how this sentimental fool judges a good thing from a bad thing... by how
much crying I do... sick!) He was just so sweet! The part where they
hypnotize him and he's "G-d's Tom" and he "sees" things, gave me
rushing goose bumps!
And Kojack! Kojack was the best "dumb dog" in the whole world. I loved
him almost as much as Cujo. That part where he remebers what happened on
his journey had me sobbing as I read. By the way, did it bother anyone
else when they changed the breed of Kojack in the mini-series?
And, last but not least, I loved Abagail. I wasn't too pleased with the
casting. I'd always pictured Cicily Tyson (sorry about the spelling) in
that part. But, the actress who played her (can't remember her name) grew
on me aft er about the tenth time I watched it. :-)
It is and was, and probably will always be my favorite King book!
:-)
Murielle
Daniel Maloney
When I was reading the book, for some reason Fran seemed
to look like Geena Davis when I pictured her in my mind.
Just like Ralph should've been played by Barry Corbin
(the cop from Northern Exposure).
Does anyone have anything similar to add?
How about an "actors-who-should-have-been-in-the-Stand"
thread?
dan
: I liked Frannie and I really HATED that they cast that whiney brat-pack
: excuse of an actress (who'd she blow to get the part) Molly Ringwald in
: the miniseries. >:p She ruined that movie for me.
: K.
KaylieWlkr
In article
<Pine.A32.3.92.960429...@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca>,
"Murielle L. Sey" <ml...@freenet.calgary.ab.ca> writes:
>And, last but not least, I loved Abagail. I wasn't too pleased with the
>casting. I'd always pictured Cicily Tyson (sorry about the spelling) in
>that part. But, the actress who played her (can't remember her name)
grew
>on me aft er about the tenth time I watched it. :-)
The actress who played Mother Abagail was Ruby Dee and when I heard they'd
cast her for The Stand I was ticked *silly*! She is the DIVA of black
actresses and has been for as long as I can remember. (And while I don't
remember what I had for dinner yesterday, I CAN remember seeing Ruby Dee
in "A Raisin in the Sun" when I was a child. ;)
Kimberley
(who loved Mother Abagail, too, but still liked Larry Underwood the best
:D)
Never regret what you do.
Never do what you'll regret.
Roudaut Jan
Re: What is your favorite character from The Stand? Why?
I love the stand by stephen king because it's a very good book
i read it in french because i' m french
roger
Antti Matikka
chna...@Capital.Net (Daniel Maloney) wrote:
>When I was reading the book, for some reason Fran seemed
>to look like Geena Davis when I pictured her in my mind.
Hey, Dan, keep your fingers off of our favorite sister-in-law before
Renny gets a camera going again... <sigh, DON'T go and see their
latest, it's not worth it>
Besides, I think Geena is too tall for the part.
Andy
Clueless Cabal (tm) Founder
What is your favorite character from The Stand? Why?
I like the question. I think a psychologist could surely tell quite a
bit about your character by the person you choose. I would choose
Harold. I can't really say why, but I just know I identified with the
character. In fact, to paraphrase Bob Grant, I found my self thinking as
Harold blew up the house, "Ill bet if there is one survivor it will be
Stu, because I am a pessimist at heart."
Another interesting note would be that I almost uniformly disliked
everyone else in the book.
Calling Dr. Freud......
MikeL
Warren Acoose
I found this response to be quite fascinating. I have often
wondered how many people sympathized with the Harold Lauder character and
why SK chose to make a fat, ostracized, misunderstood genius one of the
villains of the story.
Warren Acoose
Toronto, Canada
007
I liked Larry Underwood the best.... I don't know why.... He just seemed
like the man. The veterinarian was cool too.... I think I'm just biased
towards him though because I'm studying to be a vet.
Marc White
Murielle L. Sey
On 5 May 1996, Warren Acoose wrote:
> va...@newshost.li.net (Clueless Cabal (tm) Founder) wrote:
> >What is your favorite character from The Stand? Why?
>
>
> I found this response to be quite fascinating. I have often
> wondered how many people sympathized with the Harold Lauder character and
> why SK chose to make a fat, ostracized, misunderstood genius one of the
> villains of the story.
>
> Warren Acoose
> Toronto, Canada
I don't know that I could ever come right out and call Harold a
villain. Although I didn't identify with the character (I've just never
been a 17 year old boy) I found him a very sympathetic character. He was
just _so_ vulnerable, and wounded. If only he'd recieved a little more of
the "Hawk" treatment and a little less "Harold" treatment he'd never have
been prey for Flagg.
His was a very well drafted character, one of the best.
I wonder... I keep thinking that had Ben (from IT) not found the
Losers Club, and been given a few more years of torture by the bullies, he
could have ended up like Harold.
:-)
Murielle
Sharon McIntyre
007 <ms-w...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Marc White
I don't remember his name but I liked the one who got the
electricity running --- I think he was an engineer --- because
I've always liked men who are handy and practical. Maybe because
when it comes to survival skills, I'm totally useless and would
need someone like that.
Sharon McIntyre
mcin...@ct.net
Phil Bennett
> I wonder... I keep thinking that had Ben (from IT) not found the
>Losers Club, and been given a few more years of torture by the bullies, he
>could have ended up like Harold.
I loved old Ben Hanscombe, I found alot of me in that character,
except for the supernatural aspects involved. A loner, slightly tubby,
for my money, he was the best character SK ever drew up, although I
might be somewhat biased. But Ben had heart, where Harold didn't. In
the end, Ben had the ability to grow up and face his problems, where
Harold IMHO didn't.
Phil <ph...@vol.net>
king...@usa.pipeline.com
Wasn't that Brad Kitchner? Something like that.
My favorite has to be Larry Underwood. He comes across to me as the most
"real" of the characters. Larry is such a tortured soul -- compare him to
Stu, who's pretty much your strong, silent hero type. I guess that's why I
like Larry. He comes across as very human -- flawed and often weak, but
with a core of decency and strength.
I felt that Larry and Harold represented two sides of humanity (I don't
think it's a coincidence that Larry and Harold are tied together in the
narrative). They are both fundamentally flawed people who find their inner
strengths and mission in life. Only Larry resists temptation (Nadine) and
sides with Good, while Harold gives into temptation (Nadine) and becomes a
force of evil. I thought it was an interesting way of showing how two
people with similar problems can go through the same experience yet are
affected in radically different ways.
Regards,
Bryan Byun king...@usa.pipeline.com
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KaylieWlkr
In article <4mscbr$e...@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>,
king...@usa.pipeline.com writes:
>Only Larry resists temptation (Nadine) and
>sides with Good, while Harold gives into temptation (Nadine) and becomes
a
>force of evil.
Oh, geez, not the "Eve made Adam eat the apple" thing again. >:p Why is
it SO easy to say: "Here is woman. Shun woman and stand. Take woman and
fall."? It's too pat and it's NOT FAIR!
Nadine doesn't represent temptation, or even evil. Nadine had her own
fish to fry, and at some point even she had the ability to make the
choice. Would you honestly choose to walk away from something you'd
wanted, needed, *known* you were destined to have, even though you
discovered that that thing was destructive and evil? I doubt I would.
But FWIW, Larry Underwood was MY favorite character in The Stand for the
very reasons mentioned (leaving out Nadine, please :). In fact, I very
much relate to Larry Underwood, for those same reasons.
Kimberley
(a woman who *refuses* to cop to the Eve thing...)
Joshua Kamm
In article <4n5r8l$f...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, kayli...@aol.com
(KaylieWlkr) wrote:
> In article <4mscbr$e...@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>,
> king...@usa.pipeline.com writes:
>
> >Only Larry resists temptation (Nadine) and
> >sides with Good, while Harold gives into temptation (Nadine) and becomes
> a
> >force of evil.
>
> Oh, geez, not the "Eve made Adam eat the apple" thing again. >:p Why is
> it SO easy to say: "Here is woman. Shun woman and stand. Take woman and
> fall."? It's too pat and it's NOT FAIR!
Oh come on. King fairly utilizes men and women as both good and evil
(witness: Flagg/Abigail; Nadine/Nick; etc.), however, any way you slice
it, Nadine _was_ the serpent. Sly and trickerous, promising many things,
but in the end only bringing pain and regret.
>
> Nadine doesn't represent temptation, or even evil. Nadine had her own
> fish to fry, and at some point even she had the ability to make the
> choice. Would you honestly choose to walk away from something you'd
> wanted, needed, *known* you were destined to have, even though you
> discovered that that thing was destructive and evil? I doubt I would.
>
> But FWIW, Larry Underwood was MY favorite character in The Stand for the
> very reasons mentioned (leaving out Nadine, please :). In fact, I very
> much relate to Larry Underwood, for those same reasons.
>
> Kimberley
> (a woman who *refuses* to cop to the Eve thing...)
>
>
> Never regret what you do.
> Never do what you'll regret.
--
"Dirty needles, poison beetles, downed live wires, forest fires. Septicemia! Leukemia! Atherosclerosis! Coronary thrombosis! Encaphalitis! Osteomyelitis! Hey-ho, let's go!"
--Stephen King, Pet Sematary
josh kamm pri...@primenet.com
at...@interserv.com
> 007 <ms-w...@students.uiuc.edu> writes:
> I liked Larry Underwood the best.... I don't know why.... He just seemed
> like the man. The veterinarian was cool too.... I think I'm just biased
> towards him though because I'm studying to be a vet.
>
> Marc White
>
>>>>
was chosen as their leader. He was so strong and great; it was a shame he died.
Jon Skeet
In article <4n5r8l$f...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
KaylieWlkr <kayli...@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <4mscbr$e...@news2.h1.usa.pipeline.com>,
>king...@usa.pipeline.com writes:
>
>>Only Larry resists temptation (Nadine) and
>>sides with Good, while Harold gives into temptation (Nadine) and becomes
>a
>>force of evil.
>
>Oh, geez, not the "Eve made Adam eat the apple" thing again. >:p Why is
>it SO easy to say: "Here is woman. Shun woman and stand. Take woman and
>fall."? It's too pat and it's NOT FAIR!
>
I don't think Bryan ever implied Nadine was evil, but she's
definitely temptation to Larry and Harold. She doesn't have to
represent Temptation with a capital T, or Eve. Bryan was just
pointing out that everyone is tempted by something. Mother Abagail
(to her own mind) is tempted by the grandeur and regality of her
position, Nadine herself is tempted by Flagg, Lloyd is tempted by
thoughts of revenge... it really isn't some sexist argument here,
just a summary of temptation within the book.
Jon
KaylieWlkr
In article <4n6qtf$6...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, jl...@cam.ac.uk (Jon Skeet)
writes:
>I don't think Bryan ever implied Nadine was evil, but she's
>definitely temptation to Larry and Harold.
How so? Larry was attracted to her. She was to him. When did that get
to be "temptation?" Harold wanted revenge. Nadine used HIM (at Flagg's
behest) to help her get to Flagg. How does that make her "temptation" to
Harold?
>She doesn't have to
>represent Temptation with a capital T, or Eve.
And she DOESN'T, which was my point.
>Bryan was just
>pointing out that everyone is tempted by something.
[snip]
>it really isn't some sexist argument here,
>just a summary of temptation within the book.
>
>Jon
I think not. Again, I say it's just too EASY. Think a little harder.
What was *really* Harold's problem? What was *really* Larry's problem?
Neither man's problem had anything to DO with Nadine OR "temptation," but
because the woman was involved with both men, all of a sudden *she*
becomes "temptation." One says the word "temptation" and the first thing
that comes to mind is WOMAN. It's a crappy, crappy mindset and I'll call
anyone on it whenever I see it.
Kimberley
(who never mentioned the "s" word...)
Jon Skeet
In article <4n9s8p$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
KaylieWlkr <kayli...@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <4n6qtf$6...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, jl...@cam.ac.uk (Jon Skeet)
>writes:
>
>>I don't think Bryan ever implied Nadine was evil, but she's
>>definitely temptation to Larry and Harold.
>
>How so? Larry was attracted to her. She was to him. When did that get
>to be "temptation?"
Because Larry knew the right thing to do was stay with Lucy. That's
what I'd call temptation - being torn between a base instinct
(greed, lust, whatever) and what you know in your heart to be right.
In this way, Nadine *did* "try" to tempt Larry, although from her
point of view she was trying very hard to resist the temptation to
go to Flagg.
>Harold wanted revenge. Nadine used HIM (at Flagg's
>behest) to help her get to Flagg. How does that make her "temptation" to
>Harold?
Because again, I believe there are a couple of points where Harold
realises very briefly that what he is about to do is wrong - then
Nadine's presence encourages him to do it anyway.
>>She doesn't have to
>>represent Temptation with a capital T, or Eve.
>
>And she DOESN'T, which was my point.
Yeah, and I'm saying no-one said she does.
>>Bryan was just
>>pointing out that everyone is tempted by something.
>[snip]
>>it really isn't some sexist argument here,
>>just a summary of temptation within the book.
>I think not. Again, I say it's just too EASY. Think a little harder.
>What was *really* Harold's problem?
As you say, revenge. So when someone says, "He [Flagg] wants us to
be together. And he's generous. From now until when we leave here,
it's recess for you and me." Later (about half a page later)
Harold: And later Nadine? What does he want later?
Nadine: What you want. And what I want. What you almost did to
Redman on the first night you went out hunting for the old woman...
but on a much larger scale.
Harold isn't sure, and Nadine's final words in the chapter "Decide,
Harold. Do I put my shirt back on or take everything else off?"
>What was *really* Larry's problem?
Insecurity. He needed to be loved, so he was okay with Lucy. *But*
he still lusted after Nadine - "He reached up, and later he never
knew how he was able to do that when he could have been inside her
warmth in only three quick movements and one thrust, the way she
wanted it."
Because he had Lucy, his lust didn't win - but there was still the
temptation there.
Let's have a look at Nadine's problem too.
When she asks Larry to make love to her, she clearly wants to stay
in Boulder but is being drawn away, tempted by Flagg. She's
desperately trying to hold on to anything she can, but knows that
when Larry has rejected her, she's got no chance. You're not going
to like this, but I actually think this is the least accurate
application of "tempt", because Flagg isn't offering her much, she's
just being naturally drawn to him in a way even she doesn't fully
understand.
>Neither man's problem had anything to DO with Nadine OR "temptation," but
>because the woman was involved with both men, all of a sudden *she*
>becomes "temptation." One says the word "temptation" and the first thing
>that comes to mind is WOMAN. It's a crappy, crappy mindset and I'll call
>anyone on it whenever I see it.
Well that's not how *my* mind works, which is why I don't see a
problem with the word temptation. As I've said above, Flagg was
tempting Nadine all the time... temptation isn't a sexist business,
and I don't believe King ever meant it to be.
Jon
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