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Karen Conrardy

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I'm a big fan of Stephen King and I've read everything except for The Green
Mile and Storm of the Century. I'm planning on seeing The Green Mile this
week and I was wondering if I should see the movie first or read the book?
Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

Karen Conrardy

All things serve the beam.

Katherine

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I debated reading The Green Mile first and decided to see the movie. It is
a very powerful movie, but I don't think seeing it will detract from
enjoyment of the book, since usually there is more descriptive and narrative
detail in the written work, especially with King. I still have to read the
book, so I can let you know in more detail if the book was better. With
King you hardly ever get a let-down.
Katherine
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Nassim Abed

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I am in the middle of reading the book. And the movie is not out yet in my
country so I guess I can't tell you anything except that you really got to
put up with incredible dullness in the first 100 pages or so before it
starts to become interesting. They tell me it even gets better. I'm around
page 200.... I won't say when what happens so that I don't spoil it for you
:o)

Claude

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In my case, I never read SK's novels until I saw The Green Mile. Though I
saw The
Shawshank Redemption and knew that it's from Different Season, I didn't read
it. But this time this movie really arosed my curiosity about the novel. So
I read it after seeing the movie. Well, it is just as moving as the movie
but it has more details. Besides, you also find out some differences between
the novel and the movie. They change, leave out, and add some things in the
movie. But I think the movie follows the 'SOUL' of the novel so well that
everyone feels that it's true to the novel.

Recently I also read the movie script and am sure that Frank didn't really
stick to the novel that tightly. Reading the script turns out to be as
interesting as reading the novel. I really enjoyed three of them. (movie,
novel, and the script)

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Glow

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I always like to read books first.. I havent seen the Green Mile yet.. I
dont know how good the movie is. I guess there is an up and down to both..
Read the book first and then have all these expectations for the movie.. See
the movie first and then you see the characters as they were in the movie..
I like to imagine more so I choose to read the books first..

Claude <chen...@purdue.edu> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Tracicle

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I did hear that there is a lot of religious overtone in the movie that isn't
there in the book -- but I haven't seen the movie yet so I may be wrong. I
have read the book though, and also heard various people complain about it
being a "churchy" movie -- which the book certainly isn't.

Tracy
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C. Chen

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Well, that's not the differences I saw between the movie and the novel.
'Churchy' movie is a little bit
too exaggerated. If people smell the religion in the movie, they will also
smell it in the novel. It really
depends on how you interpret the meaning behind the scenes. Religion seems
to be the most popular
way for doing this. (A previous example is The Matrix)

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Tracicle

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The Matrix? Could you elaborate please?

I seem to have missed something in the hidden depths of Keanu's "woah"ing...

grinned the Tracicle


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C. Chen

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How about this one?

http://awesomehouse.com/matrix/

It gave religious meaning to most of the words said or image shown in the
movie.

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Ivy Lee

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:23 -0800, "Tracicle"
<tra...@earthling.net.nz> wrote:

>The Matrix? Could you elaborate please?
>
>I seem to have missed something in the hidden depths of Keanu's "woah"ing...


And I thought that The Matrix took the Messiah theme and beat us
heavily about the head and neck. I was really very disappointed when
I got to the part, after all that nifty kung fu, in which Morpheus
tells Neo, "You are the chosen one." Sort of, "awwww, is that all?
another Kwisach Haderach?"[1] Additional things that bothered me:
Cypher, the "Judas" character, is the only physically unattractive
person in the bunch of "apostles"--talk about cliché. He's got the
mark of Cain, if the mark of Cain is falling out of the ugly tree and
hitting every branch on the way down. I disliked the fact that Keanu
Reeves is in it at all (his face reminds me of those 80's "Have a Day"
buttons. Little dot eyes. Slash mouth. :-| But as a sort of
"Everyman" he was, I suppose, tolerable, since he's good at playing
innocent, or dumb, take your pick). I was also not amused by the ol'
"humanity is a virus" diatribe that Agent Smith was spouting. It's
*very* tired, if you've read much sci fi at all. The whole thing
began to completely fall apart when the helicopter came into the
picture, and it never really came back together. . . especially the
pasted-on bit of romance near the end. Blah.

I did *like* it. I'm sounding like I didn't. I had a great exciting
time watching it (on DVD, on my PC. The way the DVD starts out is a
lot of fun :> You get these hands, and a deep voice offering you
either the red pill or the blue pill; that leads into the menus. Nice
touch). The pacing is very good. Hm, what else. I loved the Oracle
character. She was a lot of fun, Mother Abigail with a sense of style
and humor; I really wished she'd had more screen time. And the spoon
boy was cute. "There is no spoon," in this little goofy Dune-baby
voice. That would make a good mantra. There is no spoon. Deep.
Dude. ;>

I still think the very best things about the film are: 1)the first
five minutes with Trinity dangerous in black leather and *flying*, and
of course, the real star of The Matrix, which is 2)all those FABULOUS
clothes.

Ivy
who wants Neo's boots and Morpheus's coat and Trinity's corset. . .

[1] Or however it's spelled. Damned aliens <G>

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Vicki

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> too exaggerated. If people smell the religion in the movie, they will also
> smell it in the novel. It really
> depends on how you interpret the meaning behind the scenes. Religion seems
> to be the most popular
> way for doing this. (A previous example is The Matrix)
>
> "

I just checked out two Green Miles series from the library today.
Also Hearts of Atlantis.
So, if there is anything churchy in them,
(whatever that means) I will spot it.
I have the Mouse in the Mile and Coffeys House.


I do read his books, so I don't want anymore lip
about I don't even read his books.
Some I will,and other I won't.

Vicki


Vicki

Tracicle

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Yeah...ever since I saw The Matrix, I like to use "there is no spoon" every
now and then -- it also reminds me of The Tick -- anyone remember him?

You're right about the religious theme. I only ever watch it for pure
entertainment value, and because I like the scene with the guns...you know
the one...! I never look too deep into a movie with Keanu in it, and yes, I
know how poncey that sounds. But Keanu action movies are usually solely for
entertainment...if you ask me :o)

Now I have to watch it again, although I am well aware now of the obvious
religious theme. But it also had a New Zealand actor in it, so I can
justify it that way. Same with Three Kings -- anyone else notice that the
main Arabian guy (good guy, that is), isn't actually Arabian? No, he's a
New Zealand Maori... :o) Just some trivia.

Tracy


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Tracicle

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I don't think Hearts in Atlantis has much in the way of religious themes.
But, as I said somewhere else, I don't tend to pick up on those sorts of
things.

It's easy to read religion into The Green Mile, as you will see. I don't
personally think it's meant to be that way. I think what happens is simply
a run-of-the-mill miracle. Of course, that's just my opinion. I'd be
interested in knowing what you think of the Green Mile though. I think it's
great -- and the mouse is one of the best characters in the whole series :o)

Tracy
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This movie is a delightful change in that you needn't have read the
book to keep up with the movie! Even my husband loved it!

Rave
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Hmmmmmmmmm... maybe I should see it again...

I really didn't see that it was "churchy". The only thing I can recall
is that they talked about the warden's wife as a Christian woman, which
was intended only to let us know how unlike her it would be to use bad
language.

Other than that, I don't recall and specificities about religion. Maybe
I wasn't paying attention....

:)

Rave

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"Tracicle" <tra...@earthling.net.nz> wrote:
> I did hear that there is a lot of religious overtone in the movie
that isn't
> there in the book -- but I haven't seen the movie yet so I may be
wrong. I
> have read the book though, and also heard various people complain
about it
> being a "churchy" movie -- which the book certainly isn't.
>

> Tracy
> --
> Kira's evil twin >; )
> CotBSig #20, CotCSig #77
>

> Karen Conrardy wrote in message <85av78$bu9$1...@news.laserlink.net>...
> >I'm a big fan of Stephen King and I've read everything except for
The Green
> >Mile and Storm of the Century. I'm planning on seeing The Green
Mile this
> >week and I was wondering if I should see the movie first or read the
book?
> >Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!
> >
> >Karen Conrardy
> >
> >All things serve the beam.
>
>

Bev Vincent

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"Tracicle" <tra...@earthling.net.nz> wrote in message
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> I don't think Hearts in Atlantis has much in the way of religious themes.
> But, as I said somewhere else, I don't tend to pick up on those sorts of
> things.

"Blind Willie" relied heavily on the Catholic notions of repentance and
atonement, which was foreshadowed in a conversation between Carol and Bobby
in "Low Men."
--
Bev Vincent
Houston TX

"When you're six, most of your Bingo balls are still floating around in the
draw-tank"
(Stephen King, On Writing)

Vicki

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Tracicle <tra...@earthling.net.nz> wrote in message
> Yeah...ever since I saw The Matrix, I like to use "there is no spoon"
every
> now and then -- it also reminds me of The Tick -- anyone remember him?
>

Vicki writes
Yeah, your right there is not a need for
a spoon anymore, we have progressed above
such primtive things as spoons.

>
> Now I have to watch it again, although I am well aware now of the obvious
> religious theme. But it also had a New Zealand actor in it, so I can
>

I am not surprised, there government is
an example of world government.

Vicki

Tracicle

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Vicki wrote in message <85h73...@enews4.newsguy.com>...

>> Now I have to watch it again, although I am well aware now of the obvious
>> religious theme. But it also had a New Zealand actor in it, so I can
>>
>
>I am not surprised, there government is
>an example of world government.
>
>Vicki
>
Wha? Can you elaborate, please?

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Vicki

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> >I am not surprised, there government is
> >an example of world government.
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> Wha? Can you elaborate, please?
>
>

No, go and find out for yourself.
New Zealand does have a homepage about the country
and it's government, etc.

Vicki

Tracicle

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Yes, I'm aware of the Government's webpage -- but what does that have to do
with World Government? America's government has a web page too.

Tracicle
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