Twister - SK connection?

[Bob Mc Cabe]

Spoilers for the film Twister below!!!

I just saw the film Twister last night and I wanted to bounce some
Ideas off my fellow SK fans! In the scene at the drive in the movie of
the Shining is playing on the screen, but the part that really made me
think of SK was during the final tornado when you see a gasolint tanker
truck flying towards our heroes truck it reminded me of the film of the
Dead Zone! I didn't notice if the tanker belonged to "Orinco" which I
seem to remember the tanker in TDZ being. I wonder if this was
Speilburgs(sp?) way of tipping his hat towards king or if it is just a
coincedence? Any thoughts?
BTW the film was incredible and the special effects realy blew me away!
Bob, who can't believe he just said that!

--
Better to be a smart ass than a dumb ass
Why put off till tomorrow, what can wait till the day after.

Bob Mc Cabe mar...@qnet.com

[Daniel Benedict]

In <31A279...@qnet.com> Bob Mc Cabe <mar...@qnet.com> writes:
> I just saw the film Twister last night and I wanted to bounce some
>Ideas off my fellow SK fans! In the scene at the drive in the movie of
>the Shining is playing on the screen, but the part that really made me
>think of SK was during the final tornado when you see a gasolint
>tanker truck flying towards our heroes truck it reminded me of the
>film of the Dead Zone! I didn't notice if the tanker belonged to
>"Orinco" which I seem to remember the tanker in TDZ being. I wonder if
>this was Speilburgs(sp?) way of tipping his hat towards king or if it
>is just a
>coincedence? Any thoughts?

Actually, you're off. There is homage being paid to somebody, but it's
not Stephen King. It's Stanley Kubrick (the guy who directed such
movies as A Clockwork Orange, Full Metal Jacket, and of course The
Shining).

I read something recently, and for the love of God, I can't remember
where, that explains all this. As a matter of fact, one of the
character's name is Stanley, and another one is named Kubrick -- put
them together and WHA-LA!

I thought that having the twister rip through the drive-in movie screen
at the same time the famous scene of Jack breaking down the door with
an axe is occuring. Nice touch.

Off subject -- Twister was an enjoyable movie, but I'm glad I only paid
$4.00 to see it. It wasn't exactly what I expected it would be.

-- Troy

[Mike M.]

Let me guess; "THE TORNADO DID IT!":right?

--

[Croaker]

Bob Mc Cabe wrote:

Twister spoilers below

<snip>

the part that really made me
> think of SK was during the final tornado when you see a gasolint tanker
> truck flying towards our heroes truck it reminded me of the film of the
> Dead Zone! I didn't notice if the tanker belonged to "Orinco" which I
> seem to remember the tanker in TDZ being. I wonder if this was
> Speilburgs(sp?) way of tipping his hat towards king or if it is just a
> coincedence? Any thoughts?

Actually, I noticed the tanker had "Benthic Petroleum" written on the
side of it. James Cameron fans will recognize this as the name of the
company which funded the underwater oil platform in the movie "The
Abyss."

Incidentally, in the book The Dead Zone, it was a drag race that nearly
killed Johnny. It was a tanker in the movie. To my knowledge (Unless I
am forgetting a part of TDZ... it HAS been awhile!) there wasn't any
tanker featured in that book. The Orinco tankers appeared in Pet
Sematary.

[Duck]

I wonder if this was
>Speilburgs(sp?) way of tipping his hat towards king or if it is just a
>coincedence? Any thoughts?

]Yes..... Spielberg didn't direct Twister....it was Jan de Bont

Doug

[Barbara Levy]

dmm...@nwu.edu (Duck) wrote:

I believe Spielberg produced "Twister" because it says "Amblin
Entertainment" at the beginning of the film. As someone mentioned
previously, I think it was more of a nod towards Kubrick and not
towards King.

Barbara Levy

"Sometimes dead is bettah" - Jud Crandall

[Angelo Wentzler]

dben...@ix.netcom.com(Daniel Benedict ) writes:

>>film of the Dead Zone! I didn't notice if the tanker belonged to

>>"Orinco" which I seem to remember the tanker in TDZ being. I wonder if

>>this was Speilburgs(sp?) way of tipping his hat towards king or if it
>>is just a
>>coincedence? Any thoughts?

Not Spielberg, Jan de bont (of Speed fame).

>Actually, you're off. There is homage being paid to somebody, but it's
>not Stephen King. It's Stanley Kubrick (the guy who directed such
>movies as A Clockwork Orange, Full Metal Jacket, and of course The
>Shining).

Jan de Bont often does this. He's very fond of "movie quotes" and it's
always fun to try and find them all. The truck is a reference to the Abyss
by the way.

I can't help but wonder what would happen if King and de Bont got together
and made a movie...

(Flames redirected to Ritzen)
Take care,

Angelo

[Warren Acoose]

barb...@ix.netcom.com (Barbara Levy) wrote:
>
>I believe Spielberg produced "Twister" because it says "Amblin
>Entertainment" at the beginning of the film. As someone mentioned
>previously, I think it was more of a nod towards Kubrick and not
>towards King.

You're right. According to a recent issue of Entertainment Weekly,
De Bont is a Kubrick fan. In addition to the Shining reference, one
minor character is named Stanley and another one is named Kubrick.
According to De Bont, showing a scene from The Shining "...is a chance to
show how great his work is."

Warren A.

[alan seaver]

>>I wonder if this was
>>>Speilburgs(sp?) way of tipping his hat towards king or if it is just a
>>>coincedence? Any thoughts?
>

>>]Yes..... Spielberg didn't direct Twister....it was Jan de Bont
>

>I believe Spielberg produced "Twister" because it says "Amblin
>Entertainment" at the beginning of the film. As someone mentioned
>previously, I think it was more of a nod towards Kubrick and not
>towards King.
>

>Barbara Levy

Here's my chance to get WAY off subject. I took it more as another of
Spielberg's in-jokes. Like the "When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth" banner in
Jurassic Park--that was also the title of an old sci-fi movie. I took the
scene of the tornado trashing "The Shining" as the producers' way of saying,
"You think King is scary? That's nothing compared to the raw force of
nature!" The same thing was in "The Evil Dead," when a movie poster for "The
Hills Have Eyes" gets torn in half.

But of course that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.

[Linda Perez]

Twister Spoilers....

>
> >>I wonder if this was
> >>>Speilburgs(sp?) way of tipping his hat towards king or if it is just a
> >>>coincedence? Any thoughts?
> >
> >>]Yes..... Spielberg didn't direct Twister....it was Jan de Bont
> >
> >I believe Spielberg produced "Twister" because it says "Amblin
> >Entertainment" at the beginning of the film. As someone mentioned
> >previously, I think it was more of a nod towards Kubrick and not
> >towards King.

> >Steven Spielberg was one of the executive producers, see the credits.
And, I knew that as soon as I saw all of the cool cloud scenes. His
movies always seem to have a lot of those. BTW, good effects,
predictable ending, but it was worth the $4. The drive in scene was
great. Freaked me out for a second b/c the Shining was across the whole
screen and I didn't realize it was part of the movie. I thought that
someone had goofed up in the reel booth. What can I say? I'm a dope.

Linda

[Elsa22]

I think the Shining might have been shown in Twister for symbolic
reasons...because in film school they taught us that nothing in films is
put there by accident ; )

Here are some reasons I came up with...although it's probably just a bunch
of B.S

1. The feeling that Jamie Gertz has about her husband is symbolized by
the feeling that Wendy (is that her name?) Torrance has for Jack Torrance.
Gertz thought she knew her boyfriend, but then in the movie a part of
him she never knew about surfaces and scares the hell out of her. In the
Shining, Mrs. Torrance meets a side of her husband that she never knew
about.

2. If I recall correctly, Jack Torrance had this horrible curiosity and
desire to visit that certain hotel room. He knew there was something
horrible there, but he had to face it. In the same vein, the storm
chasers knew they were chasing something deadly, but their curiosity had
too strong a hold on them, so they couldn't give up.

The first scene they show is the kid riding on his bicycle through the
hotel. This can be symbolic as the trucks the storm chasers are using.
Both characters are exploring and trying to satisfy their curiosity.

The twin ghosts can be the voice of the twister. "Come and play with
us...forever and ever."

Any comments: Please write to me Els...@aol.com

[Adam McKenzie]

I'm new to this newsgroup, but I've been a Stephen King since I was 11.
(I read The Shining and Salem's lot.... needless to say I'm slightly
warped.) Anyhow, I can't help but feel that SK is currently on one
hell of a brain storm and has been trying to figure out how to tie in
most of his novels to the DT series. He even went to the point to
where he updated the stand to make the time period more consistent with
when the world "passed on".

What I want to know is if anybody thinks that SK will bring back Danny
from the Shining? Either that, or does anybody have any thoughts on
what Danny would be like as an adult. I think it would make a great
story.

[Kim Murrell]

Hi Adam!
Welcome to absk! (I _love_ saying that!)

I hope he is trying to tie all his books together. That would make me
a very happy member of the golden horde. ;)

I'm not sure if he will bring Danny back, but it is an interesting idea.
I'd love to see what the grown-up Danny is like.

BTW, don't worry about being slightly warped. All of on absk are and
we float too. :)

Kim
--
Kim Murrell ki...@mail.warped.com
"Around and around and around we spin,
With feet of lead and wings of tin..." Kurt Vonnegut

[Jon R.]

Kim Murrell wrote:
>
> In article <4pqt5k$1...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> mon...@ix.netcom.com (Adam McKenzie ) writes:
> > I'm new to this newsgroup, but I've been a Stephen King since I was 11.
> > (I read The Shining and Salem's lot.... needless to say I'm slightly
> > warped.) Anyhow, I can't help but feel that SK is currently on one
> > hell of a brain storm and has been trying to figure out how to tie in
> > most of his novels to the DT series. He even went to the point to
> > where he updated the stand to make the time period more consistent with
> > when the world "passed on".
> >
> > What I want to know is if anybody thinks that SK will bring back Danny
> > from the Shining? Either that, or does anybody have any thoughts on
> > what Danny would be like as an adult. I think it would make a great
> > story.
>
> Hi Adam!
> Welcome to absk! (I _love_ saying that!)
>
> I hope he is trying to tie all his books together. That would make me
> a very happy member of the golden horde. ;)
>
> I'm not sure if he will bring Danny back, but it is an interesting idea.
> I'd love to see what the grown-up Danny is like.

> Kim

I think the links are just a small bonus, an in-joke to the constant
reader. The DT is sopposed to cross into _all_ worlds, so I guess
that's even more so.

And I don't want to see Danny again. He's probably beating the hell
out of his kids. I wouldn't want to see him like that.

Jon R.

-Going on walkabout tomorrow-

[Robert Poleson]

Is anybody else here getting annoyed with the amount of
brain tumours that SK writes into his stories?
I know it's just me nitpicking, but it seems as if he
can't manage to write more than two or three books before
another tumour pops up.
--
RJP

[Saul Milligan]

Adam McKenzie wrote:
>
> I'm new to this newsgroup, but I've been a Stephen King since I was 11.

(snip)

> What I want to know is if anybody thinks that SK will bring back Danny
> from the Shining? Either that, or does anybody have any thoughts on
> what Danny would be like as an adult. I think it would make a great
> story.

Hi Adam:
You might want to check out a fairly recent thread on the whole notion of sequels. It
was titled "Firestarter Sequel" I think and you should be able to find it through a
service called Dejanews. http://www.dejanews.com.

Anyway ... I just finished The Shining (you may have seen my posts about reading it) and
I tend to go with the crowd who say no to sequels but yes to a casual reference or
connection in a new novel story. Something like:

"I used to spend summers at this lake in New England. There was this strange
kid there with his mom this one year. He spent a lot of time with the old black
guy who was the cook for the resort. I think his name was Danny something ...
didn't have many friends as far as I could tell."

Anyway ... welcome to the group!

Stevie Canuck
--
Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly ...
Lennon and McCartney

[Sven Anders Robbestad]

[robert....@zetnet.co.uk (Robert Poleson)]:

He, he. I've been thinking along the same lines myself. There's a
tumour in most of his books it seems. Just started reading "the dark
half", and surprise, surprise - a tumour. <g>

Sven Anders

--
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2760 Brandbu, 61335739 _|_| Seek sorrow out and comfort her distress
http://www.sn.no/~svena_|_| You need not a feed jackal cub to see
sv...@sn.no _|_| Just how ungrateful gratitude can be

[Murielle L. Sey]

On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Sven Anders Robbestad wrote:
>
> He, he. I've been thinking along the same lines myself. There's a
> tumour in most of his books it seems. Just started reading "the dark
> half", and surprise, surprise - a tumour. <g>
>
> Sven Anders
>

Um... but, that was no ordinary tumour, that was part of a twin! And let
me tell you that gave me nightmares. I was a twin, that is, I would have
been if my mother hadn't misscarried "the other". I spent some spooky
nights with my imagination over that thought.

:-{}
Murielle

[Kim Murrell]

In article <Pine.A32.3.92.960617...@srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca> "Murielle L. Sey" <ml...@freenet.calgary.ab.ca> writes:
>
>>
>
> Um... but, that was no ordinary tumour, that was part of a twin! And let
> me tell you that gave me nightmares. I was a twin, that is, I would have
> been if my mother hadn't misscarried "the other". I spent some spooky
> nights with my imagination over that thought.
>
> :-{}
> Murielle
>

Oh my God!!! I thought I was alone! I had a twin, too. My
mother lost him/her in the first trimester, but I survived.
Reading DH really got me wondering if I had absorbed some
part of him/her. I hope not. That would just be too
strange.

[Sven Anders Robbestad]

["Murielle L. Sey" <ml...@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>]:

>Um... but, that was no ordinary tumour, that was part of a twin! And let
>me tell you that gave me nightmares. I was a twin, that is, I would have
>been if my mother hadn't misscarried "the other". I spent some spooky
>nights with my imagination over that thought.

Oops. My fault entirely ;{ -- I started reading the book and got as
far as to the point where King related the doctor and nurse
conversation. As I browse through it now I see that it wasn't a
tumour...

Sven Anders

--
Sven Anders Robbestad _|_| No life that breathes _|_|
2760 Brandbu, 61335739 _|_| with human breath, _|_|
http://www.sn.no/~svena _|_| has ever truly longed _|_|
sv...@sn.no _|_| for death. (Tennyson)_|_|

[BethAP74]

> Um... but, that was no ordinary tumour, that was part of a twin! And
let
> me tell you that gave me nightmares. I was a twin, that is, I would
have
> been if my mother hadn't misscarried "the other". I spent some spooky
> nights with my imagination over that thought.
>

> :-{}
> Murielle
>
Oh my God!!! I thought I was alone! I had a twin, too. My
mother lost him/her in the first trimester, but I survived.
Reading DH really got me wondering if I had absorbed some
part of him/her. I hope not. That would just be too
strange.

Kim
-
Murielle and Kim--

Well, ladies, I had wondered how often this happened too. My s.o.,
Scott, was
a twin whose twin brother failed to develop. He said that his brother
never made it past the rudimentary stages, and that he was almost
miscarried when his mom lost the other baby. She had several other
miscarriages as well. Truly tragic and bizarre.
Scott has always said he felt "watched" and "creeped out" when reading
TDH.
However, that didn't stop him from reading it ('cause he too loves King!)
He just turned the lights up, or sunk lower into the bedcovers! :D
We've always wondered what that brother would've been like. We hope that
some part of his soul lives on in Scott. :o)

Beth

[raven]

sv...@sn.no (Sven Anders Robbestad) wrote:

>[robert....@zetnet.co.uk (Robert Poleson)]:

>>Is anybody else here getting annoyed with the amount of
>>brain tumours that SK writes into his stories?
>>I know it's just me nitpicking, but it seems as if he
>>can't manage to write more than two or three books before
>>another tumour pops up.

>He, he. I've been thinking along the same lines myself. There's a

>tumour in most of his books it seems. Just started reading "the dark
>half", and surprise, surprise - a tumour. <g>

Yes, Sven, but if you recall, the tumour wasn't really a tumour but a
twin that Thad had engulfed in the womb just after conception. It
happens a lot, apparently.

Just my 2 cents

-------------
* Here there*
* be Tygers*
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[JG. Head]

Kim Murrell (ki...@mail.warped.com) wrote:
: >
: > Um... but, that was no ordinary tumour, that was part of a twin! And let

: > me tell you that gave me nightmares. I was a twin, that is, I would have
: > been if my mother hadn't misscarried "the other". I spent some spooky
: > nights with my imagination over that thought.
: >

: Oh my God!!! I thought I was alone! I had a twin, too. My

: mother lost him/her in the first trimester, but I survived.
: Reading DH really got me wondering if I had absorbed some
: part of him/her. I hope not. That would just be too
: strange.

You two had better not read _The Jonah_ by James Herbert then!

Jared

--
Jared Head at the Department of Biochemistry, University of Bristol

"If anybody wants to clap," said Eeyore when he had read this,
"now is the time to do it."

[Sarah Ross]

sv...@sn.no (Sven Anders Robbestad) wrote:
>[robert....@zetnet.co.uk (Robert Poleson)]:
>
>>Is anybody else here getting annoyed with the amount of
>>brain tumours that SK writes into his stories?
>>I know it's just me nitpicking, but it seems as if he
>>can't manage to write more than two or three books before
>>another tumour pops up.
>
>He, he. I've been thinking along the same lines myself. There's a
>tumour in most of his books it seems. Just started reading "the dark
>half", and surprise, surprise - a tumour. <g>
>

>Sven Anders

Out of curiosity, how many books are there? I can think of The Dark Half,
(sort of, if a twin counts) The Dead Zone, and the Green Mile.

Remind me of the others :)

sarah

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IN5...@wlv.ac.uk * the round green eyes and the long wavering bodies
* of the dark leopards of the moon?' W.B. Yeats

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what is his lastest book called - and is it also going to be a film
>

[onl...@ix.netcom.com]

Sarah Ross <in5...@wlv.ac.uk> wrote:

>sv...@sn.no (Sven Anders Robbestad) wrote:
>>[robert....@zetnet.co.uk (Robert Poleson)]:
>>
>>>Is anybody else here getting annoyed with the amount of
>>>brain tumours that SK writes into his stories?
>>>I know it's just me nitpicking, but it seems as if he
>>>can't manage to write more than two or three books before
>>>another tumour pops up.
>>
>>He, he. I've been thinking along the same lines myself. There's a
>>tumour in most of his books it seems. Just started reading "the dark
>>half", and surprise, surprise - a tumour. <g>
>>
>>Sven Anders

>Out of curiosity, how many books are there? I can think of The Dark Half,
>(sort of, if a twin counts) The Dead Zone, and the Green Mile.

>Remind me of the others :)

>sarah

Didn't Needful Things have one? It's been awhile
since I've read it, but I think maybe the
sheriff's wife had one...didn't she get into a car
accident with the son or something? Someone
refresh my memory because I don't own a copy of
it.

Jaime

[Kinet Chi]

Jaime asked:

:>Didn't Needful Things have one? It's been awhile

:>since I've read it, but I think maybe the
:>sheriff's wife had one...didn't she get into a car
:>accident with the son or something? Someone
:>refresh my memory because I don't own a copy of
:>it.

No problem with your memory in _this_ article. <g> Sheriff Pangborn's wife
did have a brain tumor which caused her to wreck the car killing herself and
their son. This didn't happen during the story timeline, but Pangborn
flashed back on it varoius times over the course of the book.

Chi

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[Janet Aldrich]

In a previous article, "robert.poleson"@zetnet.co.uk (Robert Poleson) says:

>Is anybody else here getting annoyed with the amount of
>brain tumours that SK writes into his stories?
>I know it's just me nitpicking, but it seems as if he
>can't manage to write more than two or three books before
>another tumour pops up.

>--
>RJP
>

Stephen King's mother died of a brain tumor; I've always wondered exactly
*how* autobiographical that little short story in Night Shift was.

Anyway, I've always thought that accounted for the number of times brain
tumors show up in his writing.

jma
--
"God is going to invade, all right: but what is the good of
saying you are on His side then, when ... none of us will
have any choice? Now, today, this moment, is our chance
to choose the right side." C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity