Stumping Blaine
Mark Nesbitt
While re-reading the Dark Tower books I noticed that in Jakes poem "My
Understanding of the Truth" he wrote two riddles. Susannah used one
when riddling Blaine in the new novel but what about the other one?
What is black and white and red all over? A blushing zebra. Can this
be used to stump Blaine or has it already been used? I know it doesn't
fit with the idea of the stumping riddle coming from Jakes book of
riddles but I wanted to ask anyway.
Mark
Eric Magnusson
Mark Nesbitt <mnes...@tor.hookup.net> wrote in article
<32EFA0...@tor.hookup.net>...
hmm... I would think that riddle wouldn't work.. far too many answers to
it:
A blushing zebra
A blushing penguin
A blushing nun
A newspaper
etc., etc., etc.
Sven Anders Robbestad
["Eric Magnusson" <eri...@mindspring.com>]:
And it wouldn't be a "true" riddle either. Zebras don't blush (or turn red, in
any case). Neither does penguins. A newspaper?
Sven
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Sven Anders Robbestad
[Zorina Wrenn <jtw...@aloha.net>]:
>Sven Anders Robbestad wrote:
>>
>> >> What is black and white and red all over? A newspaper?
>
>Aloha Sven:
>
>This is an oldie from schooldays. It is an oral riddle:
Hmm, I like the sound of that. Remove that l and one of the d's and, and, oh.
<where's the moderator when you need him?... W.... Wanna come over here for a
moment?> :)
>What is black and white and *read* all over?...A newspaper!
<duh>, and thanks! :)
Bette
Well the way we told it up in Massachusetts when I was going up is:
Q. "what's black and white and red all over and can't get through a
revolving door?"
A. A nun with a spear through her head.
Made no sense (and no offense to the Catholics or nuns among you) but it
still makes me laugh.
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Sven Anders Robbestad (sv...@ipec.no) wrote:
: ["Eric Magnusson" <eri...@mindspring.com>]:
: >Mark Nesbitt <mnes...@tor.hookup.net> wrote in article
: ><32EFA0...@tor.hookup.net>...
: >> While re-reading the Dark Tower books I noticed that in Jakes poem "My
: >> Understanding of the Truth" he wrote two riddles. Susannah used one
: >> when riddling Blaine in the new novel but what about the other one?
: >> be used to stump Blaine or has it already been used? I know it doesn't
: >> fit with the idea of the stumping riddle coming from Jakes book of
: >> riddles but I wanted to ask anyway.
: >hmm... I would think that riddle wouldn't work.. far too many answers to
: >it:
: >A blushing zebra
: >A blushing penguin
: >A blushing nun
: >A newspaper
: >etc., etc., etc.
: And it wouldn't be a "true" riddle either. Zebras don't blush (or turn red, in
: any case). Neither does penguins. A newspaper?
Substitute "Red" for "Read" (past tense form, a homonym). A newspaper is black
and white, and it is read all over. This riddle is only 'fair' when spoken so
that 'red' and 'read' may be interchanged.
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Mike Bowen
In article <32f1f5c1...@news.sn.no>, Sven Anders Robbestad
<sv...@ipec.no> writes
>
>And it wouldn't be a "true" riddle either. Zebras don't blush (or turn red, in
>any case). Neither does penguins. A newspaper?
>
A newspaper is read.
Unless of course it is the Sun.
--
Mike
Zorina Wrenn
Sven Anders Robbestad wrote:
>
> >> What is black and white and red all over? A newspaper?
Aloha Sven:
This is an oldie from schooldays. It is an oral riddle:
What is black and white and *read* all over?...A newspaper!
Riddle-dee-dee,
Zorina
Argus
Eric Magnusson wrote:
>
> Mark Nesbitt <mnes...@tor.hookup.net> wrote in article
> <32EFA0...@tor.hookup.net>...
> > While re-reading the Dark Tower books I noticed that in Jakes poem "My
> > Understanding of the Truth" he wrote two riddles. Susannah used one
> > when riddling Blaine in the new novel but what about the other one?
> > be used to stump Blaine or has it already been used? I know it doesn't
> > fit with the idea of the stumping riddle coming from Jakes book of
> > riddles but I wanted to ask anyway.
> >
> >
> >
>
> hmm... I would think that riddle wouldn't work.. far too many answers to
> it:
> A blushing zebra
> A blushing penguin
> A blushing nun
> A newspaper
> etc., etc., etc.
A Nun with a spear in her head
A.
David Anaxagoras
Mark Nesbitt <mnes...@tor.hookup.net> wrote in article
<32EFA0...@tor.hookup.net>...
...
> What is black and white and red all over? A blushing zebra.
...
(at the risk of showing how little class I have)
Reminds me of my favorite childhood (childish) joke:
What's black and white and red all over and has trouble getting through a
revolving door?
A nun with a spear through her head.
Okay, I'm really, really sorry... let's not start a whole thread of "frog
in blender" jokes.
-Dave
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John & Lisa
rstot...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <32F0F3...@ix.netcom.com>, Bette <cre...@ix.netcom.com>
>
> Robert
Spitting diet coke all over the screen and blowing it out my nostrils.
To funny for words.
LisaM
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Cheryl
For the delayed reaction, i apologise, but i have just finished reading
the Dark Tower, and up until this point hadn't got the foggiest notion
of what you were all going on about (it all becomes so much clearer).
So, am I the only one who thinks Oy is going to be the one to stump
Blaine? By stump i of course mean wandering off somewhere and weeing on
a vital piece of the damn train's circuits.
If any of you recall what it is like to bring a new pet home, you'll
also remember that the little buggers have a tendency to leave damp or
smelly pressies all over the place, especially when excited, and Oy, the
poor dear has had a rather exciting few hours, what with the bridge, and
helping Jake, and Roland did give him all that water to drink! And the
waterfall can't have helped much. IMO Eddie is just too obvious a
solution.
On the subject of Oy, no matter what description was given in the book,
i can't help imagining him as sort of a small Womble. I'm thinking
Orinoco here.
Oh well I'm off to go grumble about the result in New Zealand, I can't
believe we lost to the A-team, the shame!
Cheryl
Bob! You fool!......Don't plug that thing in!
Bette
(bows to Robert)
No problem, my friend. If you ever need a laugh, let me know!
Bette
Srinath Sridevan
Dani_K (dan...@koffee.vip.best.com) wrote:
> Heya Cheryl,
> >So, am I the only one who thinks Oy is going to be the one to
> >stump Blaine? By stump i of course mean wandering off somewhere
> >and weeing on a vital piece of the damn train's circuits.
Actually, no. When a thread started on this topic a couple of
months back, I had thought of the same thing. But I never thought of the
way he would do it. I presumed that he would ask Blaine something in
billy-bumbler language, which Blaine can be presumed to know.
SS
yvon...@aol.com
Cheryl writes:
>On the subject of Oy, no matter what description was given in the book,
>i can't help imagining him as sort of a small Womble. I'm thinking
>Orinoco here.
A Womble—are those the giant rats? Where is Orinoco? Africa or South
America? I am all a jumble right now. Anyway, I see Oy as those giant
rat-things in South America (Patagonia? Hell, I don't know)
Yvonne 8)
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Mike Bowen
In article <19970203145...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
yvon...@aol.com writes
Orinoco can be found wandering around Wimbledon Common, South London
with Uncle Bulgaria and a few more relulgar Wombles. Whose names I
cannot remember.
I think he was named after a river in Africa.
--
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defp...@aol.com
Carol Clements writes:
>On 3 Feb 1997 14:52:48 GMT, yvon...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>A Womble—are those the giant rats? Where is Orinoco? Africa or South
>>America? I am all a jumble right now. Anyway, I see Oy as those giant
>>rat-things in South America (Patagonia? Hell, I don't know)
>
<snipped the cute stuff>
>I see Oy as a dog-like thing. Probably because I'm sort of
>predisposed to dogs in general...
>
>Carol.
I don't know Carol -- I'm predisposed to cats and I picture Oy as a
dog-like thing too. Perhaps it's the "man's best friend" image good ol'
Oy eminates! Much as I love my cat in particular and cats in general, I
just can't picture anything cat-like saving my butt like Oy saved Jakes!
Denise :)
Carol Clements
On 3 Feb 1997 14:52:48 GMT, yvon...@aol.com wrote:
>A Womble—are those the giant rats? Where is Orinoco? Africa or South
>America? I am all a jumble right now. Anyway, I see Oy as those giant
>rat-things in South America (Patagonia? Hell, I don't know)
a-2-3-4
Underground overground Wombling free,
The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are we,
Making good use of the things that we find,
Things that the everyday folk leave behind...etc.
Scary the things you remember...
Um. No, I haven't gone insane, those are the words to the theme music
from a *very* old TV show which used to be screened in the UK for kids
(back when I *was* one - a kid I mean - so that shows how old it
was...sort of early '70s). There was an Uncle Bulgaria, and
Orinoco...and oh dear, that's all Nigel and I can remember between
us...um, Madame Cholay?...something like that. Anyway, they were
furry creatures with long snouts (they wore clothes) and they picked
up rubbish on Wimbledon common and lived as a family. I hated them.
I see Oy as a dog-like thing. Probably because I'm sort of
predisposed to dogs in general...
Carol.
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Carol Clements
On 3 Feb 1997 23:53:38 GMT, defp...@aol.com wrote:
>I don't know Carol -- I'm predisposed to cats and I picture Oy as a
>dog-like thing too. Perhaps it's the "man's best friend" image good ol'
>Oy eminates!
Yes. I don't think there is ever any "waste" in the characters in
King's books (now someone is bound to prove me wrong). I've been
wondering what role Oy will have to play in Wizard and Glass (amusing
concept, him pissing on Blaine and causing a short circuit, which
someone posted).
> Much as I love my cat in particular and cats in general, I
>just can't picture anything cat-like saving my butt like Oy saved Jakes!
You're right. They'd stick those dinky little noses in the air and
walk proudly away with a "look at the mess you got yourself in"
expression on their faces. And while you're being ripped apart by
some horrific fiend, they'd be calmly washing their paws.
Carol.
(who doesn't hate cats)
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Mike Bowen (Mi...@husbowen.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <19970203145...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
: yvon...@aol.com writes
: >Cheryl writes:
: >
: >>On the subject of Oy, no matter what description was given in the book,
: >>i can't help imagining him as sort of a small Womble. I'm thinking
: >>Orinoco here.
: >A Womble—are those the giant rats? Where is Orinoco? Africa or South
: >America? I am all a jumble right now. Anyway, I see Oy as those giant
: >rat-things in South America (Patagonia? Hell, I don't know)
: Orinoco can be found wandering around Wimbledon Common, South London
: with Uncle Bulgaria and a few more relulgar Wombles. Whose names I
: cannot remember.
Orinoco is also a very familar name in Stephen-King-Land: Maine.
Cheryl
In article <32f6561...@news.demon.co.uk>, Carol Clements
<ca...@clems.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>Underground overground Wombling free,
>The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are we,
>Making good use of the things that we find,
>Things that the everyday folk leave behind...etc.
Thank you Carol, I'd forgotten this song. I used to love this show as a
kid, but could never remember the damn theme tune. I shall be singing
this for days.
(Wanders away whistling tunelessly...........)
Cheryl
Bob! You fool!.....Don't plug that thing in!
Anasazi
ca...@clems.demon.co.uk (Carol Clements) wrote:
>I see Oy as a dog-like thing. Probably because I'm sort of
>predisposed to dogs in general...
I've always pictured Oy as a facsimile of my Shih Tzu, Bandit. Long
hair, low to ground, longish body, bushy tail and an attitude. I'm
STILL waitin' for the damn dog to speak to me, though.
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Bob Heyl
Dani_K wrote:
>
>
> But Steve told us way back when that it would be Eddie, and I believe
> him. Lemme find the quote.
>
> From his first post to us (to read it in its entirety, see Jon Skeet's
> FAQ)....
>
> :Oh, I think I DO know how to prove I'm me. First, the next book is
> :called ROSE MADDER_June of 1995 from Viking. Second, it will be Eddie,
> :not Roland, who saves the party of travellers from Blaine the Mono.
>
> But I'd love to see Oy piss all over Blaine's brain stem. hehehehe
>
> Dani K.
Ahh.. But he says Eddie saves our friends from Blaine, not that he
*stumps* Blaine with a riddle. Just some food for thought...
~Bob H.
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Alan Powers
Anasazi wrote:
>ca...@clems.demon.co.uk (Carol Clements) wrote:
>>I see Oy as a dog-like thing. Probably because I'm sort of
>>predisposed to dogs in general...
>I've always pictured Oy as a facsimile of my Shih Tzu, Bandit. Long
>hair, low to ground, longish body, bushy tail and an attitude. I'm
>STILL waitin' for the damn dog to speak to me, though.
When I think of Oy, I always conjure up a mental image of a large
'possum with a secondary education and designer contact lenses.
Something about SK's description of that mouth full of sharp little
teeth, I guess.
Al
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Jon Skeet
Carol Clements <ca...@clems.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> There was an Uncle Bulgaria, and Orinoco...and oh dear, that's all
> Nigel and I can remember between us...um, Madame Cholay?...something
> like that.
Tobermory was there, too... I've got a pillow-case with them on back
home... Oh drat it, I can't remember any of the others now.
> I hated them.
You hated the wombles? Is this possible? What about The Flumps and
whatever the one was with the Marvellous Mechanical Mouse Organ and
the scary owl... loved that one. Mr. Ben? Oh, the nostalgia...
Mind you, nostalgia's not what it used to be...
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Jon Skeet (jl...@cam.ac.uk) wrote:
: > I hated them.
:
: You hated the wombles? Is this possible? What about The Flumps and
: whatever the one was with the Marvellous Mechanical Mouse Organ and
: the scary owl... loved that one. Mr. Ben? Oh, the nostalgia...
Hating the Wombles is surely the sign of an evil mind, however nice Carol
may appear to be. On the other hand mentioning the insipid Flumps in the
same sentence as Bagpuss is sinful, too!
If I had a pound for every nostalgic-childrens-TV threads I have seen in
USENET...
Jared
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Laura Otto-Salaj
Boy, all - your description fits my own visualization almost perfectly.
Something like a 'possum (although a little larger, faster - a 'possum on
steroids?) - same body type, tail, face, although maybe the legs are a bit
longer. Also a hell of a lot smarter - witness all the possums that end
up as roadkill in my state...
Laura
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Zorina Wrenn
Aloha:
Is it just me, or does this sound like the ROUS's (rodents of unusual
size) from Princess Bride???
<snipped some stuff about OY>
>
Carol Clements wrote:
> > Something about SK's description of that mouth full of sharp little
> > teeth, I guess.
>
> Boy, all - your description fits my own visualization almost perfectly.
> Something like a 'possum (although a little larger, faster - a 'possum on
> steroids?)
Waiting patiently to start the DT series group read :)
Zorina
David Christensen
In article <Pine.ULT.3.90.97020...@post.its.mcw.edu>,
Laura Otto-Salaj <lott...@post.its.mcw.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Alan Powers wrote:
> >
> > Anasazi wrote:
> >
> > >ca...@clems.demon.co.uk (Carol Clements) wrote:
> >
> > >>I see Oy as a dog-like thing. Probably because I'm sort of
> > >>predisposed to dogs in general...
> >
> > >I've always pictured Oy as a facsimile of my Shih Tzu, Bandit. Long
> > >hair, low to ground, longish body, bushy tail and an attitude. I'm
> > >STILL waitin' for the damn dog to speak to me, though.
> >
> > When I think of Oy, I always conjure up a mental image of a large
> > 'possum with a secondary education and designer contact lenses.
> > Something about SK's description of that mouth full of sharp little
> > teeth, I guess.
>
> Boy, all - your description fits my own visualization almost perfectly.
> Something like a 'possum (although a little larger, faster - a 'possum on
> steroids?) - same body type, tail, face, although maybe the legs are a bit
> longer. Also a hell of a lot smarter - witness all the possums that end
> up as roadkill in my state...
A possum seems too squat and not long enough. I see Oy as an ocelot, or a
lemur or something. Weasel-like.
David Christensen
Mike Harris
I think that the riddle "What has a head but never weeps..." could also
have 'a train' as an answer, and that Blaine only knows of the answer 'a
river'. That the riddle is a double and that Blaine does not know the
other answer is currently what Eddie is trying to figure out.
- Mike
Cheryl
>whatever the one was with the Marvellous Mechanical Mouse Organ and
>the scary owl... loved that one.
Jon, wasn't this Bagpuss, the one with all the narration at the
beginning which ended, ".....but Emily loved him!" ?
I don't remember much else, except that either the owl or a woodpecker
was a bookend.
Cheryl
Bob! You fool!.......Don't plug that thing in!
DG
From "the Waste Lands"
"Up ahead, a large creature that looked like a badger crossed with a
racoon ambled out of the woods."
Sorry, I have a hard time picturing a cat or dog from this decription.
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Bob Heyl
Alan Powers wrote:
>
> Anasazi wrote:
>
> >ca...@clems.demon.co.uk (Carol Clements) wrote:
>
> >>I see Oy as a dog-like thing. Probably because I'm sort of
> >>predisposed to dogs in general...
>
> >I've always pictured Oy as a facsimile of my Shih Tzu, Bandit. Long
> >hair, low to ground, longish body, bushy tail and an attitude. I'm
> >STILL waitin' for the damn dog to speak to me, though.
>
> When I think of Oy, I always conjure up a mental image of a large
> 'possum with a secondary education and designer contact lenses.
> Something about SK's description of that mouth full of sharp little
> teeth, I guess.
>
>
> *** Visualize whirled peas! ***
I've kinda pictured him as a possum or racoon kinda animal also, but I
have to start laughing when I visualize him spinning around trying to
chase them 'whirrling peas'!!