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jewahe

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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Warning: spoiler ahead

I just finished Rose Madder again and was rather surprised to find a
Dark Tower connection that I missed in my first reading.

It occurs at the end of the scene in which Rosie steps through the
painting the first time and rescues Rose's baby. When she get back,
"Wendy" tells something to the effect that she has seen the body's on
the pole in the City of Lud (refer to The Waste Lands).

So, the obvious questions are: do you think this alternate world is
actually Roland's world? Maybe we'll meet Wendy and Rose in a future DT
book? And, do you think that the Temple of the Bull will come back into
play sometime?

Just wondering!

--
Jeff
Memphis, TN

"The worst is not/so long as we can say/'this is the worst.'" (King Lear


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ddav...@my-deja.com

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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In article <849pdm$fjf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

jewahe <jew...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> So, the obvious questions are: do you think this alternate world is
> actually Roland's world? Maybe we'll meet Wendy and Rose in a future
> DT book? And, do you think that the Temple of the Bull will come
> back into play sometime?

Good catch! I think it is Roland's world- a odd part of it, but it has
many odd parts. ;-)

In the DT books, our friends have run into several "speaking rings"
which are home to demons; the Temple may be viewed as a major-league
version of one of these.

Rose Madder, I view as an 'ancillary' DT book- so are Insomnia and
Hearts in Atlantis (mostly the first story, Low Men in Yellow Coats,
but it is the connecting tale for the whole collection, and is tied in
directly to the final story). IT is weakly connected , and Eyes of the
Dragon is a children's fantasy version of one part of MidWorld's
struggle- bearing (sort of) the relation of The Hobbit- esp. the first
edition - to The Lord of the Rings.

I have never read Salem's Lot - what happens to the priest at the end-
is he on a bus somewhere? Where is he going, in the text?

Dave

Karen Marie Cvitkovitch

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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I always thought it was another level of the tower, like flipping into
the territories in the Talisman. But where as Jack had the purple juice
to help him, Rose had the painting.


Karen:)

norm

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Dec 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/29/99
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Watch out SPOILERS HERE.

It is in fact Roland's world by the fact that Wendy talk's of LUD. But is it going on in the same world or in another, who knows. If We'll see Rose Madder or Wendy, in a future DT book, I really don't know. We've seen so much details in so much stories that have not come in directly in the DT, maybe we will never see them again and maybe we will. So many book have now been related to the DT in some way, even the kid in "Pet cemetary" that get it by the van (I can't remember is name right now).
When he gets it by the van, he loses his shoe. And in Insomnia, when Ralph Roberts is looking in the pile of stuff the mad little white doctor have, he finds that shoe. It's in fact a small details but that's one more book related to the DT in a way. That kid was not dead by normal way, but was killed by the mad little doctor that's what it means, He was takin' by the Tower's power itself.

So maybe we'll see Rose Madder again, or never will we see her no more.

Norm
normandb...@hotmail.com

KAH

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Dec 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/29/99
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norm wrote in message
 
 
Watch out SPOILERS HERE.

 So many book have now been related to the DT in some way, even the kid in "Pet cemetary" that get it by the van (I can't remember is name right now).    

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                                           

His name is Gage.

 

KAH

norm

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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Yes right, but Gage what, hahaha.
Thanks

Norm
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~Jamie

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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>Yes right, but Gage what, hahaha.
>Thanks

>Norm



Gage Creed

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~Jamie ;ž

jewahe

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Dec 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/31/99
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In fact, when I wrote this message, I lacked reading a couple of
chapters..."Wendy" is not the correct name, just what Rosie called
her...her real name is Dorcas...

Someone mentioned that the kid was named Gage...wasn't there a Gage in
The Stand?

In article <849pdm$fjf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
jewahe <jew...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Warning: spoiler ahead
>
> I just finished Rose Madder again and was rather surprised to find a
> Dark Tower connection that I missed in my first reading.
>
> It occurs at the end of the scene in which Rosie steps through the
> painting the first time and rescues Rose's baby. When she get back,
> "Wendy" tells something to the effect that she has seen the body's on
> the pole in the City of Lud (refer to The Waste Lands).
>

> So, the obvious questions are: do you think this alternate world is

> actually Roland's world? Maybe we'll meet Wendy and Rose in a future
DT
> book? And, do you think that the Temple of the Bull will come back
into
> play sometime?
>

> Just wondering!
>
> --
> Jeff
> Memphis, TN
>
> "The worst is not/so long as we can say/'this is the worst.'" (King
Lear
>

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>

--
Jeff
Memphis, TN

"The worst is not/so long as we can say/'this is the worst.'" (King Lear

PhishBones

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Jan 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/3/00
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Gage Creed was the kid in Pet Semetary.

Anthill <antti....@kolumbus.fix> wrote in message
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jewahe wrote:

>Someone mentioned that the kid was named Gage...wasn't there a Gage in
>The Stand?

I can't recall a Gage in the Stand -- maybe you think of the Shining
miniseries, where Gage Creed (aka Stephen King) was the orchestra
conductor?

Sir &y,
Castle FNG, TCotCS #30, TCotBS #18
Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary.
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the bookworm

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Jan 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/5/00
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Hi Norm. The kid in Pet Sematary was Gage Creed.
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norm <mi...@cablevision.qc.ca> wrote in message
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> Watch out SPOILERS HERE.
>
> It is in fact Roland's world by the fact that Wendy talk's of LUD. But is
> it going on in the same world or in another, who knows. If We'll see Rose
> Madder or Wendy, in a future DT book, I really don't know. We've seen so
> much details in so much stories that have not come in directly in the DT,

> maybe we will never see them again and maybe we will. So many book have


now
> been related to the DT in some way, even the kid in "Pet cemetary" that
get
> it by the van (I can't remember is name right now).

> When he gets it by the van, he loses his shoe. And in Insomnia, when Ralph
> Roberts is looking in the pile of stuff the mad little white doctor have,
> he finds that shoe. It's in fact a small details but that's one more book
> related to the DT in a way. That kid was not dead by normal way, but was
> killed by the mad little doctor that's what it means, He was takin' by the
> Tower's power itself.
>
> So maybe we'll see Rose Madder again, or never will we see her no more.
>
> Norm
> normandb...@hotmail.com
>
> Karen Marie Cvitkovitch wrote:
>
> > I always thought it was another level of the tower, like flipping into
> > the territories in the Talisman. But where as Jack had the purple juice
> > to help him, Rose had the painting.
> >
> > Karen:)
> >
> > jewahe wrote:
> > >

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