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Metria

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May 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/4/98
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I'm new to this group. Here is something that's been bothering me for
a while. While reading Insomnia, I happened across a passage that
implied that Gage's ( from Pet Sematary ) sneaker had not only been
knocked off, which I remember, but had also been stolen by Atropos and
was in Atropos's special place where he kept his souveniers of the
lives he cut short.

Okay, logic dictates that if he had taken the sneaker, then, the two
books written by the same author, some mention of a missing sneaker
would be found in Pet Sematary. I mean, the little boy was hit by a
very big truck, it is entirely possible to never find something that
was knocked off his body. The problem is : I can't find it anywhere in
the book about it.

If someone could tell me where in the book this is made mention, I
would be entirely grateful. If not, please share theories about this
oversite on King's part.
To Reply, Add a Spring to my step. (Or actually, my Mind)

Jack Sawyer

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May 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/4/98
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You know what King many times whrite in his books:

Every goods in the book you have from them (the one who helped him)
Every mistaken in it comes from me.

(it's a translation from myself, I don't know the exactly words in English)

Ropa


stevie canuck

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May 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/4/98
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There is no mention of this in Pet Sematary, AFAIK. I imagine that King
was not thinking of anything to do with Insomnia and the Fates when he
wrote PS. In writing Insomnia, he simply used an occurrance from a
previous book to add to the flavour of the new book.

Stevie C

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Scott Leis

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May 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/5/98
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On Mon, 04 May 1998 11:48:41 GMT, Metria wrote:

>
>
>I'm new to this group. Here is something that's been bothering me for
>a while. While reading Insomnia, I happened across a passage that
>implied that Gage's ( from Pet Sematary ) sneaker had not only been
>knocked off, which I remember, but had also been stolen by Atropos and
>was in Atropos's special place where he kept his souveniers of the
>lives he cut short.
>
>Okay, logic dictates that if he had taken the sneaker, then, the two
>books written by the same author, some mention of a missing sneaker
>would be found in Pet Sematary. I mean, the little boy was hit by a
>very big truck, it is entirely possible to never find something that
>was knocked off his body. The problem is : I can't find it anywhere in
>the book about it.
>
>If someone could tell me where in the book this is made mention, I
>would be entirely grateful. If not, please share theories about this
>oversite on King's part.

>To Reply, Add a Spring to my step. (Or actually, my Mind)

As Stevie C said, SK probably wasn't thinking of Insomnia when he wrote
PS. I would add that a missing shoe would not have had any effect on the
events in either story, so even if SK had thought of it earlier, it
wasn't (for the purpose of PS) worth commenting on.

Shwade 2
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and drink your booze.
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Asher

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May 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/5/98
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stevie canuck wrote in message <354E8B...@rogerswave.com>...


>Metria wrote:
>>
>> I'm new to this group. Here is something that's been bothering me for
>> a while. While reading Insomnia, I happened across a passage that
>> implied that Gage's ( from Pet Sematary ) sneaker had not only been
>> knocked off, which I remember, but had also been stolen by Atropos and
>> was in Atropos's special place where he kept his souveniers of the
>> lives he cut short.
>>

<snip>

>> If someone could tell me where in the book this is made mention, I
>> would be entirely grateful. If not, please share theories about this
>> oversite on King's part.
>
>

>There is no mention of this in Pet Sematary, AFAIK. I imagine that King
>was not thinking of anything to do with Insomnia and the Fates when he
>wrote PS. In writing Insomnia, he simply used an occurrance from a
>previous book to add to the flavour of the new book.
>
> Stevie C


As King writes new books, he slips reminders of other stories into them. The
best example for this is, of course, The Dark Tower series where many of the
stories have a foothold.
In Misery, Paul Sheldon tells Annie that he can';t work without his master
file where he keeps references to his other stories. I guess S.K. has some
sort of master file like that and he tosses the references to keep the
stories connected.
Note also that in Insomnia there is mention of IT, telling that the new
library was rebuilt after the floods which destroyed the town.
You will find many connections between all of King's stories - just look for
them and they'll pop up.

-----------------------------------
Asher Grossman
Nospam...@netmedia.net.il


Dawnyml

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May 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/5/98
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>In writing Insomnia, he simply used an occurrance from a
>previous book to add to the flavour of the new book.
>
> Stevie C

Which is one of my favorite things about Stephen King books.

Dawn

Carrie

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May 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/5/98
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stevie canuck wrote:
>
> Metria wrote:
> >
> > I'm new to this group. Here is something that's been bothering me for
> > a while. While reading Insomnia, I happened across a passage that
> > implied that Gage's ( from Pet Sematary ) sneaker had not only been
> > knocked off, which I remember, but had also been stolen by Atropos and
> > was in Atropos's special place where he kept his souveniers of the
> > lives he cut short.
> >
> > Okay, logic dictates that if he had taken the sneaker, then, the two
> > books written by the same author, some mention of a missing sneaker
> > would be found in Pet Sematary. I mean, the little boy was hit by a
> > very big truck, it is entirely possible to never find something that
> > was knocked off his body. The problem is : I can't find it anywhere in
> > the book about it.
> >
> > If someone could tell me where in the book this is made mention, I
> > would be entirely grateful. If not, please share theories about this
> > oversite on King's part.
>
> There is no mention of this in Pet Sematary, AFAIK. I imagine that King
> was not thinking of anything to do with Insomnia and the Fates when he
> wrote PS. In writing Insomnia, he simply used an occurrance from a

> previous book to add to the flavour of the new book.
>
> Stevie C
I'm afraid I'll have do disagree with you here. On pages 238-239 of my
paperback it says: "I ran ten yards and there was his baseball cap and
I ran twenty yards and there was one of his Star Wars sneakers..."

You may have missed it 'cause it wasn't in the section where Gage gets
hit by the truck. It's in the section at the funeral home.

Carrie

David Rawsthorne

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May 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/6/98
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On Mon, 04 May 1998 11:48:41 GMT, Metria wrote:


>Okay, logic dictates that if he had taken the sneaker, then, the two
>books written by the same author, some mention of a missing sneaker
>would be found in Pet Sematary. I mean, the little boy was hit by a
>very big truck, it is entirely possible to never find something that
>was knocked off his body. The problem is : I can't find it anywhere in
>the book about it.

True. I think Louis Creed mentiones the shoe as he runs up to Gage's
body, but not after it. It is possible that in the emotional state
that Louis was in, he did not consider what happened to the other
items. I do not think the blood filled cap was mentioned also.


David
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Ron and Lisa Carr

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May 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/7/98
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Dawnyml wrote:

> >In writing Insomnia, he simply used an occurrance from a
> >previous book to add to the flavour of the new book.
> >
> > Stevie C
>

> Which is one of my favorite things about Stephen King books.
>
> Dawn

I totally agree with you Dawn and Stevie! King seems to always
intermingle his books even if with just a hint of on in another. It
sparks interest and recolection...and I must remember to write down
these 'blerps' when I run into them!

Lisa


LBTSea

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98
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There are so many connections in SK's books that if you were to look hard
enough you would find that they are all connected

Jon Skeet

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May 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/12/98
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LBTSea <lbt...@aol.com> wrote:
> There are so many connections in SK's books that if you were to look hard
> enough you would find that they are all connected

What about Cycle of the Werewolf? I still don't think I've seen any
connections between that and anything else.

--
Jon Skeet
Web page: http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
Stephen King, Dungeon Keeper, Worms, Friends... it's all there.

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