New Connection? (Spoiler: Sun Dog, Talasman)

[Draws?]

I am about halfway through Sun Dog now, and i found this connection with the
Talasman.
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OK, after Kevin Delevan destroys the sun camera he goes to a place in his
dreams. The place is called Oatley, which looks like it could be in upstate
New York, in this place there is a homeless person with a shoping cart who
says, "Get out you fushing feef,"
This is a complete rehash of one of the scenes from Jack's journey in the
Talasman.
Heres the question: Do these occurences happen in other books? I have read
almost all of the King books, and have not witnessed this before (outside of
King's repetitive use of certian characters).

Anyone?

Draws?
PS. what do you do with a perfectly good mouse, when your snake dies before
the mouse is eaten?

[Robbin M.C. Stangland]

>I am about halfway through Sun Dog now,and i found this connection with the
>Talasman.

>OK, after Kevin Delevan destroys the sun camera he goes to a place in his

>dreams.The place is called Oatley, which looks like it could be in upstate
>New York,in this place there is a homeless person with a shoping cart who

>says, "Get out you fushing feef,"
>This is a complete rehash of one of the scenes from Jack's journey in the
>Talasman.
>Heres the question: Do these occurences happen in other books? I have read
>almost all of the King books, and have not witnessed this before (outsideof
>King's repetitive use of certian characters).

He does it all the time. The first one I remember finding was a reference
to "Cujo" in the short story "Mrs. Todd's Shortcut". In the story, there
was a group of cronies that hung out at the general store (I think) that
were telling the story. They said something about stories that happen to
tourists die out quickly, but stories that happen to the locals get retold
for years, like the time Joe Cambers got eaten by his rabid dog (or
something like that...)
Three others I remember off the top of my head:
Frank Dodd from The Dead Zone is referenced in Cujo (or vice versa).
The eclipse in Geralds Game is the same eclipse in Delores Claiborne and
gets mentioned as such.
The little boy (Gage Creed) who died in Pet Sematary gets mentioned in
Insomnia.

Robbin

[lin...@voicenet.com]

SPOILERS (The Sun Dog, Cujo, Dead Zone, Talisman, Insomnia, Gerald's Game,
Regulators....) SPOILERS

In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.97021...@wpi.WPI.EDU>,

Robbin M.C. Stangland <rst...@wpi.edu> wrote:
>>I am about halfway through Sun Dog now,and i found this connection with the
>>Talasman.
>>OK, after Kevin Delevan destroys the sun camera he goes to a place in his
>>dreams.The place is called Oatley, which looks like it could be in upstate
>>New York,in this place there is a homeless person with a shoping cart who
>>says, "Get out you fushing feef,"
>>This is a complete rehash of one of the scenes from Jack's journey in the
>>Talasman.

All I recognized is the phrase. Is Oatley in both books?

>>Heres the question: Do these occurences happen in other books? I have read
>>almost all of the King books, and have not witnessed this before (outsideof
>>King's repetitive use of certian characters).
>
>He does it all the time. The first one I remember finding was a reference

>to "Cujo" in the short story "Mrs. Todd's Shortcut"....

>Three others I remember off the top of my head:
>Frank Dodd from The Dead Zone is referenced in Cujo (or vice versa).

I think you're right: Dodd is mentioned in Cujo. Not only that but
Sheriff Bannerman actually appears in both books. (Dodd dies in Dead
Zone, Bannerman dies in Cujo.)
Also, Bannerman's succesor as Castle Rock's sheriff, Alan Pangborn,
appears in The Sun Dog, The Dark Half, and Needful Things. And Pangborn's
deputy is in Gerald's Game.

>The eclipse in Geralds Game is the same eclipse in Delores Claiborne and
>gets mentioned as such.
>The little boy (Gage Creed) who died in Pet Sematary gets mentioned in
>Insomnia.

The book Carrie is mentioned by a character in The Dead Zone. Also,
their is a reference to Jack Torrance and the Overlook hotel by Annie
Wilkes in "Misery".

>
>Robbin
>

This stuff is one of the reasons King resurrected teh Bachman pseudonym.
Many of King's stories are interrelated, sharing settings (e.g. Castle
Rock) and characters. He shares characters between "Desperation" and "The
Regulators" but the two versions of the story are contradictory and must
be separated. The name "Richard Bachman" is like a disclaimer: "Nothing
that happens in this book has any effect on my other books." It's like a
cartoon: nothing that happens in one episode carries over into the next
week's episode.

Another thing: IMO Bachman's version is more open-ended than
"Desperation". It would be pretty confusing if King had published both
books under his own name and then a sequel to "The Regulators". All the
character names would match but the plotlines for the "Regulators" and its
sequel would contradict "Desperation."

BTW, King hinted in a WWW interview that we might get a kind of Richard
Bachman version of "Salem's Lot". (I have no idea whether character names
might match or not but...) he said Bachman has a sexual vampire --
something King purposely avoided in "Salem's Lot".

Dave

[Carol Marshall]

>Heres the question: Do these occurences happen in other books? I have read
>almost all of the King books, and have not witnessed this before (outsideof
>King's repetitive use of certian characters).
>

Have just finished reading Rose Madder and in that someone is reading
one of the Misery books written by Paul Sheldon the writer held hostage
by Annie Wilkes in Misery.
--
Carol Marshall
ca...@morshall.demon.co.uk