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Sidney Lambe

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Jul 21, 2008, 3:50:59 AM7/21/08
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Dreamcatcher

What an *excellent* story! Written with a pen.

Duddits has to be SK's finest hero.


Tome

GMpartsguy

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Jul 21, 2008, 10:27:59 PM7/21/08
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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I remember some interview he did when the book came out. After the accident,
it was more comfortable for him to write the book by hand than from behind
his processor. Since it takes longer to write than type, it gave King more
time to ponder each word and sentence.

Since i haven't read it myself yet, i can only guess how the book feels
compared to others.


Sidney Lambe

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Jul 22, 2008, 12:14:14 AM7/22/08
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Without meaning this too literally, you could think of it as a
cross between It (which is actually mentioned, however obliquely)
and Tommyknockers. But with elements neither of them have.


Tome


N.Bruges

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Jul 22, 2008, 9:28:03 PM7/22/08
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And the book was eons better that the movie!

Sidney Lambe

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Jul 22, 2008, 11:53:52 PM7/22/08
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N.Bruges <eni...@hotmail.com> wrote:

One of my rules is that I never wreck a good book by
watching the movie.

Tome


GMpartsguy

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:45:03 PM7/23/08
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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I don't get in a lot of movies either. But i can vouch for The Green Mile,
and Shawshank Redemption. Haven't read either book/story, but both movies
were great.
The Shining and Christine come next, followed by every campy SK movie/tv
movie that isn't on my list. Pet Semetary and Maximum Overdrive were funnier
than they were creepy. ;)


Sidney Lambe

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Jul 23, 2008, 8:20:07 PM7/23/08
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GMpartsguy <kb1...@cPoImScSaOsFtF.net> wrote:

I've never seen a Stephen King movie and never will.

He's probably the best writer of his generation and there's no way
I'm going to pollute my experiences of his art with Hollywood's
renderings of them. Movies are just incredibly shallow and
can't be anything else.

They only come into their own is when they are created from the
ground up (although they are still shallow by comparison to
novels). And then I avoid the novels that are derived from them,
because they always stink, no matter how good the writer is
otherwis

Tome

Tamara

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Jul 26, 2008, 6:15:38 AM7/26/08
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"GMpartsguy" <kb1...@cPoImScSaOsFtF.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:gjmil5x...@amma.net...
>> N.Bruges <eni...@hotmail.com> wrote:
SNIPPING

>> One of my rules is that I never wreck a good book by
>> watching the movie.
>>
>> Tome
>>
>>
>
> I don't get in a lot of movies either. But i can vouch for The Green Mile,
> and Shawshank Redemption. Haven't read either book/story, but both movies
> were great.
> The Shining and Christine come next, followed by every campy SK movie/tv
> movie that isn't on my list. Pet Semetary and Maximum Overdrive were
> funnier than they were creepy. ;)

I can honestly say I have seen all movies and read all books you have
mentioned and whilst they rarely live up to the casting and acting in my
HEAD, they aren't bad. If you haven't read TGM or SR - do so. They are GREAT
stories to read and you get carried up in them.

Tamara - reading SK for over 25 years now.
>
>


Tamara

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Jul 26, 2008, 6:17:50 AM7/26/08
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> GMpartsguy <kb1...@cPoImScSaOsFtF.net> wrote:
>
SNIPPING

> I've never seen a Stephen King movie and never will.
>
> He's probably the best writer of his generation and there's no way
> I'm going to pollute my experiences of his art with Hollywood's
> renderings of them. Movies are just incredibly shallow and
> can't be anything else.
>
> They only come into their own is when they are created from the
> ground up (although they are still shallow by comparison to
> novels). And then I avoid the novels that are derived from them,
> because they always stink, no matter how good the writer is
> otherwis
>
> Tome

The Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption were brilliant movies of the
stories. Casting was brilliant and the cinemotography was even better. Quite
honestly, even if I hadn't read the books, I'd have enjoyed the movies.

Try them - you may be very pleasantly surprised (now, I wouldn't put Misery
or Delores Claibourne in that category as movies though, despite the lead
actress' wonderful efforts in both)

Tamara
>
>
>


RVG

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Jul 27, 2008, 10:17:34 AM7/27/08
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> a écrit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : neukl5x...@amma.net...

But you should watch the telefilms and miniseries SK wrote himself directly
for TV, like Storm of the Century, Rose Red and Kingdom Hospital. These are
TV novels, not adaptations of any previous books.

Sidney Lambe

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Aug 1, 2008, 8:27:05 PM8/1/08
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I prefer to excercise my own imagination (which puts all the special effects
of Hollywood to shame) and regard movies to be basically drugs.

>> I've never seen a Stephen King movie and never will.

I guess you missed that, though I don't see how.

Tome

Sidney Lambe

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Aug 1, 2008, 8:27:48 PM8/1/08
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Thanks for the tip. But it isn't likely to happen. I got rid of my TV a
long time ago.

Tome

Tamara

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Aug 2, 2008, 3:10:21 AM8/2/08
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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tunnel vision.

Sometimes...

O well.

Tamara
>


Sidney Lambe

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Aug 2, 2008, 7:09:00 AM8/2/08
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Others will see your recommendations, and I'll remember them for people
I know who are into movies.

So you were looking down a pretty big tunnel. :-)

I just read Frumma Bewick Ate.

Not particularly impressive.

Tome


RVG

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Aug 2, 2008, 3:58:37 PM8/2/08
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> a écrit dans le message de groupe de

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Are you aware that you can watch DVDs on your PC ?

Sidney Lambe

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Aug 2, 2008, 8:49:34 PM8/2/08
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Sure. I can do lots of things with it that I choose not to do.

There seems to be some kind of a communication problem here. I
read books. I don't watch movies. I think movies are a cheap
drug.

Reading books is an art and a science.

Tome

RVG

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Aug 3, 2008, 7:28:19 PM8/3/08
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> a écrit dans le message de groupe de

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So, since it's obvious that Stephen King loves movies to the point of
writing original scripts for teleseries, d'you think he's on the side of
"art and science" or on the side of "cheap drug" ?

--
"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." -
Benjamin Franklin

Sidney Lambe

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Aug 3, 2008, 10:49:31 PM8/3/08
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I don't know and don't care. I run my life and he runs his.

But for the sake of an academic discussion, I'll bite.

What makes you thinkt that he particularly loves movies? To me,
it's pretty obvious that it's books that he really loves.

I'd guess that he loves the easy money that such endeavors
provide more than the doing of them. Or he'd do more. Creating
new doses of mindless entertainment drugs for the couch potatoes
of America is a lucrative business. And his name alone is enough
to give him an edge on the competition.

I mean, he does spend about 99%+ of his creative time on novels, right?

He even wrote Dreamcatcher by hand...

Tome

John Brockbank

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Aug 4, 2008, 11:20:36 AM8/4/08
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< "Sidney Lambe" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >


The exchange was rather long - I have therefore omitted inserting any of it.
I would like to make a point to you.

I myself have written five novels and a few short stories. I have had a few
short pieces of writing published, and been paid for them, but have not even
submitted the novels and stories to an agent.

The reason is that they are not good enough - although I am quite proud of a
couple of them, and all of them have some decent parts and are quite
decently written.

I happen to have taken a course in creative writing, with about twenty
others in the same class. I was one of the better ones, but all of them had
written things.

OK, I will cut to the chase. I would guess that less than 1% of the books
written are published, because they are not good enough. Also, further,
almost all of the books that are published are, I am fairly sure, not what I
would want to read. Perhaps one in 1000 I might like.

So out of millions that are written each year, I might read 20. Not
forgetting the fact that half of the ones I read are not much cop.

Of course those that I like are great, well worth it.

I will now tell you something about films. I am equally certain that most
of them are dire as well, but also I can assure you that some are extremely
good works of art which are well worth seeing.

My motivation in writing this is to help you, to tell you that you are
missing out on a very rewarding part of life if you dismiss a whole art form
merely because most of it is junk.


Sidney Lambe

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Aug 4, 2008, 1:44:24 PM8/4/08
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John Brockbank <wag...@screaming.net> wrote:

Interesting. You dismiss all of my criticisms of the art form
by simply deleting the entire thread and thus evading addressing
any of the points I raised, and then accuse me of dismissing
an art form that I obviously have not dismissed.

When one dismisses something they don't spend any time
thinking about it.

No, I am not missing out on a very important part of life by
not watching movies.

I don't need Hollywood to do the work that my imagination can
do better.

Tome


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