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OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about things,
oh and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now
please.
Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous
examples have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring.
Particularly J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is
mentioned in LL as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The
confusion is that the inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the
Cabinet of Curiosities is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which
Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a football which proves he cares deep down."
and later "Carrot ran up, bouncing his football." and he further reveals
"Oh, these days I carry a deflated one in my pack". This is very
dissimilar to the lump of Ash wrapped in rags that the 'professionals'
play with and whilst I have no problem with the change for the beautiful
game, the getting it made seemed odd in the above context.
Secondly, the story seemed a bit 'boiler plated' together and lacked the
normal flow. Probably on a second reading it won't seem like it.
Thirdly, a small point. Towards the end when Nutts is given his mission
it is said that Pastor Oats will pass on the 'rate of forgiveness'
rate? have I missed a meaning or is it rite? But if forgiveness is the
double headed axe passing neither rate or rite make sense to me.
Still not a bad book but not in my must re-read straight away class.
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Esmeraldus
"Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots
pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
They were out there, but Pratchett decided not to say "Oh, bother, I have
referred to inflatable balls before, can't write this fully developed novel.
Pity." And I feel that a History Monks/Trousers of Time explanation is too
pat.
We know that in over 30 novels, sometimes there are little loose ends like
this. It just happens. Fifteen novels or however many ago, Pratchett didn't
know he was going to be writing about the reinvention of footie, so there
was a brief reference to a type of ball.
Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under the rug
would just call attention to it.
--
Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator
AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion
"If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
richard e white
I never thought there was a problem. It isn't like the wizards got out much.
There might be inflatable balls being used by some where the main game the
adults played ignored it. Carrot might have ben trying to use a safer ball with
the streetkids.
>
>
> Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under the rug
> would just call attention to it.
>
> --
> Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
> AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator
> AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion
> "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
By the way how is nut's race's name spelled?
When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the bird women
said.
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Richard The Blind Typer.
Lets hear it for talking computers.
Lets go for talking i-pods!
Alex Bell
That seems to be his only name. I hope we hear more of him and Glenda.
Please don't be offended, but do you have any suggestions as to how best
we can type in messages and answers to you so that they are easily
understandable?
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Regards, Alex
Reader in Invisible Writings
richard e white
Thanks. It is just that on the autio copy I got its hard to tell.
richard e white
Your question doesn't bother me at all. I know how diffrent screen readser botch
fairly normal words. In fact some of my misspellings are do to my writing so It say
things right then messing up by bad typing or bad spelling. It also doesn't help that
I had prossessings disorders which makes me a very bad speller to begin with. How you
Spelled out Nutt's name work very well. I was asking about his races name which
another person put down as Orc. I was able to find out who that was writen by going
into edit mode. The one space between each leter makes it so I just have the computer
read the letter and move on or anser. But Either way lets me look for the anser. As
to which words my screen reader botches, it is to long and I do have a way to edit how
it says something. Some times the problem is easy. With hourglass it says it like
herglass. I have the edit feature which lets me tell it to say hourglass like hour
glass. I don't have to change things in every word. The screen reader know to change
the word from then on. How ever there are words which no matter how I respell them in
the word sound editor, they never sound right. I found out that lady godiva never
sounds right. Even doing it in the sound editor as lady go-dive-a doesn't work.
surprisingly there are many normal words which the system messes up. You have to get
use to some and correct the editor as you go. However, it does make it so I can send
e-mails without help. So I am rather glade to have it. I also don't have the most
current screen reader as I am working on a book and don't want to have to redo all the
entries I have made. I normaly do when I upgrade the screen reader.
I think I got off track. However, be sure I will ask any time I don't understand what
someone says. So far I find most people are willing to explain. Oh, sure there are
trolls, but I just kill file them and move on when I realize they only want to cause
problems.
Richard Bos
> > >>>> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples
> > >>>> have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly
> > >>>> J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL
> > >>>> as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the
> > >>>> inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities
> > >>>> is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a
> > >>>> football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up,
> > >>>> bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a
> > >>>> deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash
> > >>>> wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no
> > >>>> problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed
> > >>>> odd in the above context.
> > >>> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots
> > >>> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
Possibly, but they can easily be explained away by the full-on Game
being played with more authentic, hard-man equipment than the low-tech
schoolboy game Carrot is having his boys play. Somewhat like kendo using
wooden swords, as opposed to both real katana _and_ wooden sticks; or,
perhaps, like softball is to both USAnian Rounders and to squishy foam
balls.
At this point I'd like to point out that the New Ball _is_ a rather
high-tech one. It may not sound like it by now, but the hexagon-and-
pentagon ball described in the book is not all that old. It was devised
for one of the official championships - IIRC a World C. sometime in the
1960s. Before that, the leather monster looked rather different, and was
much more prone to getting lumpy or otherwise degrading. In fact, for a
long time it looked much like the one on the dust jacket, which is _not_
the one described in the book. Perhaps that's the kind which Carrot
carries with him, or possibly it's even simpler, but it almost certainly
is not the truncated icosahedron one.
> > >> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled?
> > >> When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the
> > >> bird women said.
> > The Race is spelt ORC but the Furries cry AWK!
> Thanks. It is just that on the autio copy I got its hard to tell.
That, I think, was rather the point: the Furies (_not_ Furries, btw;
that's an entirely more scary kind of creature) shout "awk" like, say, a
gull or raven does - and this is reasonable and can be unsuspicious in
circumstances where it should be, because they are bird-women. At the
same time, they also exclaim "orc!" to warn the innocent bystanders when
they have to.
Richard
Reader in Invisible Writings
> that's an entirely more scary kind of creature) shout "awk" like, say, a
> gull or raven does - and this is reasonable and can be unsuspicious in
> circumstances where it should be, because they are bird-women. At the
> same time, they also exclaim "orc!" to warn the innocent bystanders when
> they have to.
>
> Richard
ball described is (as required from the Cabinet of Curiosities) is a
perfect ball for the beautiful game, compared to the merely inflatable
ball used by Carrot. (Carrot's can be inflated enough to bounce - but
does it go Goinng?)
I did make the mistake of suggesting that there were only really three
ways of making a ball, but later on the train I realised I was wrong and
I was expecting to find my mistake outed, but no.
So ways to make a ball
1. Carve or mould a solid lump. Bowls, Cannon, Snooker etc.
2. Layer up over a core. Cricket, Golf, The Game etc.
3. Inflate a shell. Football, Rugby, Basketball etc.
4. Mould a shell. Tennis, Table Tennis
Any more ways? Anyone?
Chris Zakes
caused Reader in Invisible Writings <markfo...@hotmail.com> to
write:
Sure. Chop off someone's head. Stick it in a bag. Whack it about with
mallets while on horseback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM4vMM5QwgI
-Chris Zakes
Texas
Even a man who is pure in heart
And says his prayers at night
May become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms
And the autumn moon is bright.
Reader in Invisible Writings
a 'naturally occurring' core.
>Whack it about with
> mallets while on horseback.
lend themselves more to certain activities ;-)
You would not wish to try basket ball with a bowling ball for instance.
O:-)
Hey have I invented new smiley? O:-) (Angel = innocent) and what about
]:-D (Devil = miscevious)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM4vMM5QwgI
>
> -Chris Zakes
> Texas
> Even a man who is pure in heart
> And says his prayers at night
> May become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms
> And the autumn moon is bright.
James Kuyper
> Hey have I invented new smiley? O:-) (Angel = innocent) and what about
> ]:-D (Devil = miscevious)
Your angel is recognized and displayed with a special icon by
Thunderbird, so I don't think you invented it. However, it just
displayed your Devil as plain text, so you might have invented that.
Reader in Invisible Writings
I checked Pidgin and it uses (A) for angel and (6) for devil..
Having searched (and this was the biggest list)
http://www.acronymslist.com/cat/sms-text-smileys-and-emoticons-p5.html
it seems that >:-) is devil (> + :-), which I considered before deciding
that the ] looked better than > for the horns.