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Dodger
admit I am a little confused about somehting...
I'm not seeing much in the way of on-topic posts at all, here. Do you guys
talk about Mercedes Lackey books at all?
It just mostly seems to be jokes and a net community, and, for instance, I
did a full text search fo all messages for the word 'Tregarde' and got
nothing.
Is there a FAQ I should read that addresses this?
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Megan Thomas
> Hi. I just subscribed up to this NG, and was looking through, and I must
> admit I am a little confused about somehting...
Only one thing? You're doing well!
> I'm not seeing much in the way of on-topic posts at all, here. Do you guys
> talk about Mercedes Lackey books at all?
Sure we do. Usually in spurts right after a new book comes out. Or
when someone thinks of a question we haven't tackled in a while.
But we've all asked the questions we had about ML when we joined the
group, and we like talking, so we just keep going... :)
> It just mostly seems to be jokes and a net community, and, for instance, I
> did a full text search fo all messages for the word 'Tregarde' and got
> nothing.
Really? Huh. Full text search in what database?
> Is there a FAQ I should read that addresses this?
Why, yes, there is! Wacky coincidence of wacky coincidences, the URL
of the FAQ is in my .sig. It is www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/ Part
1 discusses ABML, Part 2 answers the most common questions we get
regarding ML, her books, etc.
Of course, if you've got a question not addressed in the FAQ, post
away!
Welcome!
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Dodger
news:3AFCCB07...@NOSPAMcs.berkeley.edu...
> Dodger wrote:
> > Hi. I just subscribed up to this NG, and was looking through, and I must
> > admit I am a little confused about somehting...
>
> Only one thing? You're doing well!
Heh. I try.
> > I'm not seeing much in the way of on-topic posts at all, here. Do you
guys
> > talk about Mercedes Lackey books at all?
>
> Sure we do. Usually in spurts right after a new book comes out. Or
> when someone thinks of a question we haven't tackled in a while.
>
> But we've all asked the questions we had about ML when we joined the
> group, and we like talking, so we just keep going... :)
Ahh. I see.
I'm not, at all, BTW, a fan of Valdemar. I'm really only into the Urban
Fantasy stuff (SERRA, the Bedlam's Bard stuff, Di Tregarde, the Fire Rose
(not urban or modern world, but close), and Taldeer.) I couldn't give a hot
about Heralds and such. That doesn't make me an instant pariah, does it?
> > It just mostly seems to be jokes and a net community, and, for instance,
I
> > did a full text search fo all messages for the word 'Tregarde' and got
> > nothing.
>
> Really? Huh. Full text search in what database?
No database. Well, not a real one. Just on all the messages on my
news-server.
> > Is there a FAQ I should read that addresses this?
>
> Why, yes, there is! Wacky coincidence of wacky coincidences, the URL
> of the FAQ is in my .sig. It is www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/ Part
> 1 discusses ABML, Part 2 answers the most common questions we get
> regarding ML, her books, etc.
>
> Of course, if you've got a question not addressed in the FAQ, post
> away!
Okay -- here's sorta one.
If Mercedes Lackey is never going to do another Tregarde novel because of
the flake who threatened her, why won't she allow fan-fiction based on those
characters? She's not going to suffer a loss of profit on things she's
written off anyway.
Megan Thomas
> I'm not, at all, BTW, a fan of Valdemar. I'm really only into the Urban
> Fantasy stuff (SERRA, the Bedlam's Bard stuff, Di Tregarde, the Fire Rose
> (not urban or modern world, but close), and Taldeer.) I couldn't give a hot
> about Heralds and such. That doesn't make me an instant pariah, does it?
If it makes you a pariah, it makes our God Of Flirtation a pariah, and
that would be TERRIBLE. Absolutely not to be born. So, no, it
doesn't.
> > > It just mostly seems to be jokes and a net community, and, for instance,
> I
> > > did a full text search fo all messages for the word 'Tregarde' and got
> > > nothing.
> > Really? Huh. Full text search in what database?
>
> No database. Well, not a real one. Just on all the messages on my
> news-server.
Tsk, tsk. That's nothing!
<snip>
> > Of course, if you've got a question not addressed in the FAQ, post
> > away!
> Okay -- here's sorta one.
>
> If Mercedes Lackey is never going to do another Tregarde novel because of
> the flake who threatened her, why won't she allow fan-fiction based on those
> characters? She's not going to suffer a loss of profit on things she's
> written off anyway.
Darned if I know, I'm not psychic. But I would imagine it is simply
to simplify legal policy. "No Fan-Fiction" is a much simpler stand
than "No fan-fiction except for fan fiction involving characters X, Y,
and Z, unless I decide to write a novel based on subsidiary characters
Xa, Ya, or Zb, in which case, scrap it."
We are still hoping for a novel about Andre. Well, I am, anyway.
Megan Thomas
<snip>
> I'm not, at all, BTW, a fan of Valdemar. I'm really only into the Urban
> Fantasy stuff (SERRA, the Bedlam's Bard stuff, Di Tregarde, the Fire Rose
> (not urban or modern world, but close), and Taldeer.) I couldn't give a hot
> about Heralds and such. That doesn't make me an instant pariah, does it?
Oops, I should clarify.
The REAL reason it doesn't make you a pariah is that we don't care.
We've got folks here who've never read ANY MLackey. What you have and
have not read and did and did not like is your concern; s'long as
you're happy, I'm happy.
Mummy Az
<m...@cNOSPAMs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>Dodger wrote:
>>
>> "Megan Thomas" <m...@NOSPAMcs.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
><snip>
>> I'm not, at all, BTW, a fan of Valdemar. I'm really only into the Urban
>> Fantasy stuff (SERRA, the Bedlam's Bard stuff, Di Tregarde, the Fire Rose
>> (not urban or modern world, but close), and Taldeer.) I couldn't give a hot
>> about Heralds and such. That doesn't make me an instant pariah, does it?
>
>If it makes you a pariah, it makes our God Of Flirtation a pariah, and
>that would be TERRIBLE. Absolutely not to be born. So, no, it
>doesn't.
Not to mention our resident Mummy. I'd be VERY cross if my Kiddies
and their friends decided I was an outcast just because I can't stand
the Valdemar novels. I might cry into the Chocococococolate
Cheesecake mix and that would get it all salty and yuk...
<snip>
>We are still hoping for a novel about Andre. Well, I am, anyway.
Me too! Me too! <sigh> Got to love that Vampire...
Mummy Az
--
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that's just bullying. We have to heighten our _own_ self-esteem if
we want to get anywhere.
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Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
Not only you... <G>
BTW, there seem to be some other odd similarities between Di and
Buffy--and Andre and Angel, come to speak of them...
Hmmm, now that Buffy's _that_ successful, Misty could even give Di
another try, if it weren't for that threat...
<sigh>
If only there was a possibiliy to make sure, the people getting
access to some stories are only of that kind, who don't make
anything bad out of it.
Sometimes, I _really_ wish for some help like King Valdemar got...
> --
> Megan
> Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
> Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
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Megan
> Megan Thomas wrote:
<snip>
> > We are still hoping for a novel about Andre. Well, I am, anyway.
>
> Not only you... <G>
Yes! All together now, cross your fingers and HOPE REAL HARD.
> BTW, there seem to be some other odd similarities between Di and
> Buffy--and Andre and Angel, come to speak of them...
Similarities: age. coloring. good looks. taste in food.
Dissimilarities: Angel mopes, broods, sits in dark corners and feels
sorry for himself, etc. Angel is taller. Angel's "accent" is fake
enough to make even my untrained ear wince. (Ok, novels don't need to
actually perform an accent; they can leave that up to the reader.)
What am I not noticing?
I prefer Andre. Though I do watch the TV show.
> If only there was a possibiliy to make sure, the people getting
> access to some stories are only of that kind, who don't make
> anything bad out of it.
<snip>
Yeah, but who gets to define "bad"? Does me using a novel as a
gnat-smasher count?
Though I'd like more Di novels more than anything else Misty could
write. sigh.
p.s. (J-O, please consider snippping your posts down to just the
relevant text...)
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Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan Thomas wrote:
> <snip>
>>> We are still hoping for a novel about Andre. Well, I am, anyway.
>> Not only you... <G>
>
> Yes! All together now, cross your fingers and HOPE REAL HARD.
<hoping, Misty gets an info about us hoping...>
>> BTW, there seem to be some other odd similarities between Di and
>> Buffy--and Andre and Angel, come to speak of them...
>
> Similarities: age. coloring. good looks. taste in food.
Coloring?
> Dissimilarities: Angel mopes, broods, sits in dark corners and
> feels sorry for himself, etc. Angel is taller. Angel's "accent"
> is fake enough to make even my untrained ear wince. (Ok, novels
> don't need to actually perform an accent; they can leave that up
> to the reader.)
...
> What am I not noticing?
That's exactly, what I was just wondering!
> I prefer Andre. Though I do watch the TV show.
No idea, since I don't.
>> If only there was a possibiliy to make sure, the people getting
>> access to some stories are only of that kind, who don't make
>> anything bad out of it.
> <snip>
>
> Yeah, but who gets to define "bad"? Does me using a novel as a
> gnat-smasher count?
Grmbl.
Wrote, "negative," first, then corrected to "bad".
<sigh>
Should've left it...
> Though I'd like more Di novels more than anything else Misty could
> write. sigh.
>
> p.s. (J-O, please consider snippping your posts down to just the
> relevant text...)
_Oh_ _dear_!
<rueful smile>
You know, that's _really_ a problem for me, because of those
hunters and gatherers, I'm a true gatherer; I don't want to loose
or miss anything... <doublesigh>
And, I have to admit, I don't want to cut things other people
might
want to keep...
> --
> Megan
> Acolyte to the God of Grilled-SPAM
> Keeper of the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
Megan
> Megan wrote:
> > Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> >> BTW, there seem to be some other odd similarities between Di and
> >> Buffy--and Andre and Angel, come to speak of them...
> >
> > Similarities: age. coloring. good looks. taste in food.
>
> Coloring?
Yes, coloring. Both have dark hair, both have dark eyes, both are
otherwise paleskins. (Not run across that use of the word before,
hmmm?)
<snip>
> > p.s. (J-O, please consider snippping your posts down to just the
> > relevant text...)
>
> _Oh_ _dear_!
> <rueful smile>
> You know, that's _really_ a problem for me, because of those
> hunters and gatherers, I'm a true gatherer; I don't want to loose
> or miss anything... <doublesigh>
>
> And, I have to admit, I don't want to cut things other people
> might want to keep...
I don't consider much that I write here to be deathless prose;
ruthless snippage is just fine by me.
General Netiquette is that posting 3-4 lines of quoted material in
order to add 1-2 lines waaaaaaaaaaay at the bottom is not really the
Done Thing. Some folks do pay money by the byte for downloading.
Not just you doing it; I've noticed rampant >>>>>>'s sprouting up all
over the place so I thought I'd stick my obnoxious foot in somewhere
to point it out. (It's a minor pet peeve of mine.)
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan wrote:
>>> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Similarities: age. coloring. good looks. taste in food.
>> Coloring?
>
> Yes, coloring. Both have dark hair, both have dark eyes, both are
> otherwise paleskins. (Not run across that use of the word before,
> hmmm?)
I believe I have to have a closer look at Buffy some time...
Paleskins? --No, I can only imagine it in a bad translation of
Karl
May...
> <snip>
>>> p.s. (J-O, please consider snippping your posts down to just the
>>> relevant text...)
<snip>
>> You know, that's _really_ a problem for me, because of those
>> hunters and gatherers, I'm a true gatherer; I don't want to
>> loose or miss anything... <doublesigh>
>> And, I have to admit, I don't want to cut things other people
>> might want to keep...
>
> I don't consider much that I write here to be deathless prose;
> ruthless snippage is just fine by me.
And others? <G>
Besides, that doesn't help with the 'gatherer' problem...
> General Netiquette is that posting 3-4 lines of quoted material in
> order to add 1-2 lines waaaaaaaaaaay at the bottom is not really
> the Done Thing. Some folks do pay money by the byte for
> downloading.
Mhm...
Still?
> Not just you doing it; I've noticed rampant >>>>>>'s sprouting up
> all over the place so I thought I'd stick my obnoxious foot in
> somewhere to point it out. (It's a minor pet peeve of mine.)
Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
confused about just what is new and what is not...
<smile>
Mine is answering-below.
Though, I succeeded in keeping my efforts to
cutting-and-pasting...
<G>
And wraplength... <G!>
> --
> Megan
Megan
>
> Megan wrote:
> > Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
<snip>
[Andre--Angel]
> >>> Similarities: age. coloring. good looks. taste in food.
> >> Coloring?
> > Yes, coloring. Both have dark hair, both have dark eyes, both are
> > otherwise paleskins. (Not run across that use of the word before,
> > hmmm?)
>
> I believe I have to have a closer look at Buffy some time...
Angel is on his own show, these days. Doesn't show up often in
Buffy. :)
> Paleskins? --No, I can only imagine it in a bad translation of
> Karl May...
Caucasians, if you want the formal term for the skin color.
Oh, I mean use of the word 'coloring'.
Who is Karl May?
<snip>
> > I don't consider much that I write here to be deathless prose;
> > ruthless snippage is just fine by me.
>
> And others? <G>
At your own discretion, of course.
> Besides, that doesn't help with the 'gatherer' problem...
Not certain what you mean by 'gatherer problem'. One can gather up
all the ABML prose one wants on one's own computer, without any need
to repost it in reply posts. So how does the desire to gather up
prose affect the snippage-etiquette issue?
> > General Netiquette is that posting 3-4 lines of quoted material in
> > order to add 1-2 lines waaaaaaaaaaay at the bottom is not really
> > the Done Thing. Some folks do pay money by the byte for
> > downloading.
>
> Mhm...
> Still?
Pay by the megabyte. If not in actual cash, think of it in terms of
time. If one connects through a phone line and is simultaneously
downloading the most recent ABML posts as well as a dearly desired
dose of daily funnies, one does not want one extra millisecond wasted
downloading things one has already read! On to the new stuff, the
good stuff, the amusing stuff!
<snip>
> Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
> confused about just what is new and what is not...
<snip>
That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and I
just give up trying to make sense of the preceding conversation
anyway.
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan wrote:
>>> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>>>> Megan wrote:
> <snip>
> [Andre--Angel]
>>>>> Similarities: age. coloring. good looks. taste in food.
>>>> Coloring?
>>> Yes, coloring. Both have dark hair, both have dark eyes, both are
>>> otherwise paleskins. (Not run across that use of the word before,
>>> hmmm?)
>> I believe I have to have a closer look at Buffy some time...
>
> Angel is on his own show, these days. Doesn't show up often in
> Buffy. :)
Oh, I mixed up things again. Of course, "Angel"...
(see below)
>> Paleskins? --No, I can only imagine it in a bad translation of
>> Karl May...
>
> Caucasians, if you want the formal term for the skin color.
Oh...
Reminds me of that movie about the huckster getting into a mental
hospital, where folks are doing a 'SONY' spot.
> Oh, I mean use of the word 'coloring'.
Uh...
But, yes...
Only, at that moment, I was writing: "Andre--Angel," and thinking
"Di--Buffy"...
> Who is Karl May?
An ancient German author who wrote Winnetou and Old Shatterhand,
for instance; They were filmed with Pierre Brice and Lex Barker.
May wrote mostly books about the "Wild West".
> <snip>
>>> I don't consider much that I write here to be deathless prose;
>>> ruthless snippage is just fine by me.
>> And others? <G>
>
> At your own discretion, of course.
<G>
>> Besides, that doesn't help with the 'gatherer' problem...
>
> Not certain what you mean by 'gatherer problem'. One can gather
> up all the ABML prose one wants on one's own computer, without any
> need to repost it in reply posts. So how does the desire to gather
> up prose affect the snippage-etiquette issue?
Yes, see below. <sigh>
>>> General Netiquette is that posting 3-4 lines of quoted material in
>>> order to add 1-2 lines waaaaaaaaaaay at the bottom is not really
>>> the Done Thing. Some folks do pay money by the byte for
>>> downloading.
BTW, thanks.
>> Mhm...
>> Still?
> Pay by the megabyte. If not in actual cash, think of it in terms
> of time. If one connects through a phone line and is simultaneously
> downloading the most recent ABML posts as well as a dearly desired
> dose of daily funnies, one does not want one extra millisecond
> wasted downloading things one has already read! On to the new
> stuff, the good stuff, the amusing stuff!
Grmbl.
Of course!
The answer came to me just _after_ I hit the send button.
I was thinking about people not being able to follow the
discussion, thus putting all of it into the post.
There's (almost) no need for that, occurred to me (too late!), for
that's exactly what the threads are for; so whenever anybody wants
to see the referred-to post, just needs to go 'up' the thread and
read it.
Yes, I see that people don't like to have to load long posts just
to read only one additional line...
But that's just what things are with me: I'm a bit slow. The
best
answers I get about half an hour after there's no possibility to
change what I've said. That's why I haven't tried chatting yet,
and
that's why I'm no good company...
And: Yes, about now, I'm sure there _are_ people who have no
choice other than load the NG's with a 9600 baud modem, just to be
able to follow at all. It's just unfair to them.
I feel I have to excuse for not being able to express my thoughts
in a compact way without loosing the meaning...
<rueful thoughts about the Views-threads.>
I feel I have to excuse for even a lot more than just that...
> <snip>
>> Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
>> confused about just what is new and what is not...
> <snip>
>
> That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and I
> just give up trying to make sense of the preceding conversation
> anyway.
Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff instead of
those >>>>>>>>'s, but dismissed that notion out of hand, because
other newsreaders might not be able to cope with that...
BTW, I forgot to mention subject lines... <G>
> --
> Megan
> Acolyte to the God of Grilled-SPAM
> Keeper of the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
Megan
> Megan wrote:
> > Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> > Who is Karl May?
>
> An ancient German author who wrote Winnetou and Old Shatterhand,
> for instance; They were filmed with Pierre Brice and Lex Barker.
> May wrote mostly books about the "Wild West".
May wrote about the 'Wild West'? The 'Wild West' in the USA?
<snip>
> > Pay by the megabyte. If not in actual cash, think of it in terms
> > of time. If one connects through a phone line and is simultaneously
> > downloading the most recent ABML posts as well as a dearly desired
> > dose of daily funnies, one does not want one extra millisecond
> > wasted downloading things one has already read! On to the new
> > stuff, the good stuff, the amusing stuff!
>
> Grmbl
> Of course!
> The answer came to me just _after_ I hit the send button.
That happens to me, more often than I like!
> I was thinking about people not being able to follow the
> discussion, thus putting all of it into the post.
> There's (almost) no need for that, occurred to me (too late!), for
> that's exactly what the threads are for; so whenever anybody wants
> to see the referred-to post, just needs to go 'up' the thread and
> read it.
Yep. Though one does need to make a few allowances for the fact that
not all news servers receive all posts, and the fact that news posts
arrive at different locations not necessarily in 'time posted' order.
<snip>
> > <snip>
> >> Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
> >> confused about just what is new and what is not...
> > <snip>
> > That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and I
> > just give up trying to make sense of the preceding conversation
> > anyway.
>
> Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
> 'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff instead of
> those >>>>>>>>'s, but dismissed that notion out of hand, because
> other newsreaders might not be able to cope with that...
Newsreaders can probably cope, but the people reading the messages
might not. "> >" takes up enough space on the left of a screen of
text. "J-O > Megan > J-O > Megan >" would take up far more!
> BTW, I forgot to mention subject lines... <G>
Oh, I believe ABML has given up on that. :) Besides, how does one
pick one title for a post that ranges over 10 topics?
--
Megan
C M
wrote:
>Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>>
>> Megan wrote:
>> > Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> >> Megan wrote:
><snip>
>[Andre--Angel]
>> >>> Similarities: age. coloring. good looks. taste in food.
>> >> Coloring?
>> > Yes, coloring. Both have dark hair, both have dark eyes, both are
>> > otherwise paleskins. (Not run across that use of the word before,
>> > hmmm?)
>>
>> I believe I have to have a closer look at Buffy some time...
>
>Angel is on his own show, these days. Doesn't show up often in
>Buffy. :)
>
>> Paleskins? --No, I can only imagine it in a bad translation of
>> Karl May...
>
>Caucasians, if you want the formal term for the skin color.
>
>Oh, I mean use of the word 'coloring'.
>
>Who is Karl May?
Karl May wrote westerns. German westerns. In German(Hoch Deutsch!)
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>Not just you doing it; I've noticed rampant >>>>>>'s sprouting up all
>over the place so I thought I'd stick my obnoxious foot in somewhere
>to point it out. (It's a minor pet peeve of mine.)
I prefer that, than MS defaulting to NOT using what started out the
accepted standard for quoting (using the >>) before they "discovered"
the internet, and forcing you to quote damn near the entire previous
message, all the time.
alessan
(no, your reply does not preceed what you answer...)
--
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Megan
> Megan <m...@cnospams.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
> >Not just you doing it; I've noticed rampant >>>>>>'s sprouting up all
> >over the place so I thought I'd stick my obnoxious foot in somewhere
> >to point it out. (It's a minor pet peeve of mine.)
>
> I prefer that, than MS defaulting to NOT using what started out the
> accepted standard for quoting (using the >>) before they "discovered"
> the internet, and forcing you to quote damn near the entire previous
> message, all the time.
Oh, no, that's not what I meant! When replying to a message, of
course I prefer the >'s being in there. What bothers me is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>'s generated by including the 10th message back in a thread (and all the other 9 between that message and the latest), the text of which is by now completely and utterly irrelevant.
I'm on a "remember to snip the irrelevant stuff" rampage. Not a
"remove all formatting marks that let one know what is going on"
rampage.
--
Megan
Kat
> I'm on a "remember to snip the irrelevant stuff" rampage. Not a
> "remove all formatting marks that let one know what is going on"
> rampage.
I second this motion! I'd noticed that people were getting away from this, as
well, I just didn't want to be the one to say something! :-) I have unlimited
access, but even I get tired of scrolling through a couple pages of quotes just
to get to one new line! And is it entirely necessary to leave the other
person's entire .sig? I know mine is long enough that I don't want to see it in
every post! *G*
Kat
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"Distance between two hearts is not an obstacle...rather a beautiful reminder of
just how strong true love can be." -Unknown
*******************************************************
Megan
>
> In a land and time very much like our own, Megan awoke and said:
> > I'm on a "remember to snip the irrelevant stuff" rampage. Not a
> > "remove all formatting marks that let one know what is going on"
> > rampage.
>
> I second this motion! I'd noticed that people were getting away from this, as
> well, I just didn't want to be the one to say something! :-) I have unlimited
> access, but even I get tired of scrolling through a couple pages of quotes just
> to get to one new line! And is it entirely necessary to leave the other
> person's entire .sig? I know mine is long enough that I don't want to see it in
> every post! *G*
(I, too, have unlimited access. Just limited patience for scrolling.)
Hey, I'm working on one point of Netiquette at a time, here. <g> YOU
start the snip-long-sigs-in-replies rampage. :) (I do agree with it.)
I didn't really want to say it, either. Didn't want to say it the 1st
time, the 2nd, the 3rd... on the 1000th, I caved. :)
(Yes, I pick trash up off of sidewalks, too. Tidiness-freak.)
--
Megan
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan wrote:
>>> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Who is Karl May?
>> An ancient German author who wrote Winnetou and Old Shatterhand,
>> for instance; They were filmed with Pierre Brice and Lex Barker.
>> May wrote mostly books about the "Wild West".
>
> May wrote about the 'Wild West'? The 'Wild West' in the USA?
Yes, and it is said that he kept closer to the truth than others
did...
<snip>
>> Grmbl
>> Of course!
>> The answer came to me just _after_ I hit the send button.
>
> That happens to me, more often than I like!
<smile>
Ah, well... <sigh> at least, I'm not alone there...
<snip>
> Yep. Though one does need to make a few allowances for the fact
> that not all news servers receive all posts, and the fact that news
> posts arrive at different locations not necessarily in 'time
> posted' order.
Hmm, it would be _very_ interesting to find out exactly _what_
posts are lost to some servers, and why. Perhaps then there's a
possibility to set that right. But perhaps, it's not. I think
we're not that good in chaos theories yet...
> <snip>
>>> <snip>
>>>> Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you
>>>> get confused about just what is new and what is not...
>>> <snip>
>>> That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and I
>>> just give up trying to make sense of the preceding conversation
>>> anyway.
>>
>> Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
>> 'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff instead
>> of those >>>>>>>>'s, but dismissed that notion out of hand,
>> because other newsreaders might not be able to cope with that...
>
> Newsreaders can probably cope, but the people reading the messages
> might not. "> >" takes up enough space on the left of a screen of
> text. "J-O > Megan > J-O > Megan >" would take up far more!
<G>
<sigh>
No.
Though I saw _that_, too, somewhere, I rather thought of this:
--------<example begin>--------
J.-O.:
Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
confused about just what is new and what is not...
<snip>
Megan:
That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and I
just give up trying to make sense of the preceding conversation
anyway.
J.-O.:
Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff instead
of those >>>>>>>>'s, but dismissed that notion out of hand,
because other newsreaders might not be able to cope with that...
Megan:
Newsreaders can probably cope, but the people reading the messages
might not. "> >" takes up enough space on the left of a screen of
text. "J-O > Megan > J-O > Megan >" would take up far more!
--------<example end>--------
See what I mean?--It would save us from all those >>>>>>>>'s...
>> BTW, I forgot to mention subject lines... <G>
>
> Oh, I believe ABML has given up on that. :) Besides, how does one
> pick one title for a post that ranges over 10 topics?
<G> I'm practicing. With some posts, I still have problems, but
with the rest, it is not such a problem.
> --
> Megan
> Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
> Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Megan <m...@cnospams.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Not just you doing it; I've noticed rampant >>>>>>'s sprouting up
>> all over the place so I thought I'd stick my obnoxious foot in
>> somewhere to point it out. (It's a minor pet peeve of mine.)
>
> I prefer that, than MS defaulting to NOT using what started out the
> accepted standard for quoting (using the >>) before they
> "discovered" the internet, and forcing you to quote damn near the
> entire previous message, all the time.
Hmm, never noticed that.
What does it look like?
> alessan
> (no, your reply does not preceed what you answer...)
--
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
Why not, oh dear Priestess?
Why don't you like to see this:
> *****************************************************
> High Priestess of Kink
> Free Pedant
> Cloudkeeper-in-Training
> Beloved of Jesse
> ICQ#92956629
> "Distance between two hearts is not an obstacle...rather a beautiful reminder of
> just how strong true love can be." -Unknown
> *******************************************************
<gd&rlh>
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
<snip>
> (Yes, I pick trash up off of sidewalks, too. Tidiness-freak.)
>
> --
> Megan
And _you_ claim to be a Geek?!?
Or... did you? <G>
Megan
> Megan wrote:
> > Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> >> Megan wrote:
> >>> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
<snip>
> >>> Who is Karl May?
> >> An ancient German author who wrote Winnetou and Old Shatterhand,
> >> for instance; They were filmed with Pierre Brice and Lex Barker.
> >> May wrote mostly books about the "Wild West".
> >
> > May wrote about the 'Wild West'? The 'Wild West' in the USA?
> Yes, and it is said that he kept closer to the truth than others
> did...
Weird. I thought it was a United States-only thing to romanticize the
Wild West. Didn't realize the infatuation had spread across the seas!
<snip>
> No.
> Though I saw _that_, too, somewhere, I rather thought of this:
>
> --------<example begin>--------
> J.-O.:
> Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
> confused about just what is new and what is not...
> <snip>
>
> Megan:
> That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and I
> just give up trying to make sense of the preceding conversation
> anyway.
>
> J.-O.:
> Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
> 'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff instead
<snip>
> --------<example end>--------
>
> See what I mean?--It would save us from all those >>>>>>>>'s...
<snip>
Oh, that sort of thing would be very nice. Hard to implement, though.
:)
Megan
>
> Megan wrote:
> <snip>
> > (Yes, I pick trash up off of sidewalks, too. Tidiness-freak.)
> And _you_ claim to be a Geek?!?
> Or... did you? <G>
I did; I am.
Computer geeks seem to come in 2 kinds. The incredibly untidy (the
common stereotype) and the very tidy. While more rare, the latter
kind of geek does exist. :)
--
Megan
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan wrote:
>>> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>>>> Megan wrote:
>>>>> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
<snip>
>> Yes, and it is said that he kept closer to the truth than others
>> did...
>
> Weird. I thought it was a United States-only thing to romanticize
> the Wild West. Didn't realize the infatuation had spread across
> the seas!
Weird? Huuuh?
Erm, it isn't really a States-only thing. After May started,
there
were a lot of others who followed his example, especially after
some
of his books were, uhm, "put into motion." <G> (movies)
Still today, near the city of Bad Segeberg, every year there's a
festival where the most popular of his books are being played.
Oh, and just think of all the "Italo-westerns!"--Perhaps you know
Terence Hill (Mario Girotti) and Bud Spencer (Carlo Pedersoli)?
They did quite a lot of those!
And, BTW, Terence Hill also played in two of the "May" movies....
Just ask IMDb....
For the reason....
Just think of all those people, who wanted to go to the New World
at his time, and couldn't afford to or had other ties keeping them.
May found some release for their dreams, and that's probably why
his books got so popular--Not that many could afford them, but they
found something to nourish their dreams....
> <snip>
>> No.
>> Though I saw _that_, too, somewhere, I rather thought of this:
>>
>> --------<example begin>--------
>> J.-O.:
>> Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
>> confused about just what is new and what is not...
>> <snip>
>>
>> Megan:
>> That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and
>> I just give up trying to make sense of the preceding
>> conversation anyway.
>>
>> J.-O.:
>> Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
>> 'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff instead
><snip>
>> --------<example end>--------
>>
>> See what I mean?--It would save us from all those >>>>>>>>'s...
> <snip>
>
> Oh, that sort of thing would be very nice. Hard to implement,
> though.
> :)
<sigh>
Too true...
But I'm sure you could find (or do) some kind of 'interface' to
make it look that way.... <G>
> --
> Megan
> Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
> Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> (Yes, I pick trash up off of sidewalks, too. Tidiness-freak.)
>
>> And _you_ claim to be a Geek?!?
>> Or... did you? <G>
>
> I did; I am.
>
> Computer geeks seem to come in 2 kinds. The incredibly untidy (the
> common stereotype) and the very tidy. While more rare, the latter
> kind of geek does exist. :)
Now that you mention it...there was some kind of cross-over of
Geek
and Nerd... --You aren't a Nerd, are you? <VEG>
> --
> Megan
> Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
> Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
Bruce Grant
<3B0341EB...@cNOSPAMs.berkeley.edu>...
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> > >
> > > May wrote about the 'Wild West'? The 'Wild West' in the USA?
> > Yes, and it is said that he kept closer to the truth than others
> > did...
>
> Weird. I thought it was a United States-only thing to romanticize
> the Wild West. Didn't realize the infatuation had spread across
> the seas!
Ever read any westerns by J T Edson? I'm not sure how many he's done
now, but it must be close to a hundred, if not more. I went through a
period when I was younger of reading everything he wrote, and almost
succeeded. He's set up a sort of dynastic timeline, ranging from the
wars of Texan independence from Mexico, through the Civil War, into the
"cowboy" era between then and the early 1900s (this is where most of
the books are set), and a few "Texas Rangers" adventures going forward
into more modern times.
The books tend to be well-written, fast paced, exciting, with lots of
authentic-sounding detail... and they're written by a Yorkshireman. Not
only is J T Edson English, he's from a region more usually associated
with flat caps, greyhound racing, black puddings and ferrets down your
trousers. Yes, the "infatuation" does tend to spread... =)
Bruce
ABML Brute Squad Enforcer #5, slice'n'dice division
--
PGP public key available on ldap://certserver.pgp.com
EMail: bgr...@furhold.ifb.nospam.co.uk (beware of the spamtrap)
Lessons Learned from Sandman #26: If there's a raven on your
windowsill, let him in.
Megan
> > Weird. I thought it was a United States-only thing to romanticize
> > the Wild West. Didn't realize the infatuation had spread across
> > the seas!
>
> Ever read any westerns by J T Edson? I'm not sure how many he's done
> now, but it must be close to a hundred, if not more. I went through a
> The books tend to be well-written, fast paced, exciting, with lots of
> authentic-sounding detail... and they're written by a Yorkshireman. Not
> only is J T Edson English, he's from a region more usually associated
> with flat caps, greyhound racing, black puddings and ferrets down your
> trousers. Yes, the "infatuation" does tend to spread... =)
Whooo... So you and J-O have said! Wow.
I'm afraid I haven't read any Wild West novels since I was 14 and
picked up a few Zane Grey novels. :)
I guess it makes sense that the Wild West infatuation has spread east
across the ocean. US romance novel readers are certainly infatuated
with Regency England. Etc.
Joe Morris
Megan <m...@cNOSPAMs.berkeley.edu> writes:
>Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan wrote:
>> > May wrote about the 'Wild West'? The 'Wild West' in the USA?
>> Yes, and it is said that he kept closer to the truth than others
>> did...
>Weird. I thought it was a United States-only thing to romanticize the
>Wild West. Didn't realize the infatuation had spread across the seas!
Unless I'm confusing him with another popular German author, a year or
two ago the _Wall Street Journal_ had a page-one article about him;
IIRC it noted that he had never set foot in the Western US, but
has a very enthusiastic following in Germany.
Joe Morris
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
No, you're not confusing. <G>
That's about the same info as I've got.
Even when I'm _not_ one of his biggest fans. I only have about
...
let me count ... yes, one book of his. <G>
Rhino7
>sorry for himself, etc. Angel is taller. Angel's "accent" is fake
>enough to make even my untrained ear wince. (Ok, novels don't need to
>actually perform an accent; they can leave that up to the reader.)
>Megan
'Scuse ... but ... last I knew, Angel had had his 'curse' reversed and
was hanging out with the bad vamps.
What happened in between?
The (seriously out of it) Bookwurm
--
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Ex-Heretic Priestess of Coffee & Cheesecake
High Priestess to the Goddess of Babble
Pedant in Chief, Keeper of the BotRoM
<spam trapped - remove the fish from address>
Rhino7
>--
>Megan
<confession mode> And *I* save worms from drowning in mud puddles.
</confession>
The Bookwurm
Rhino7
>"remove all formatting marks that let one know what is going on"
>rampage.
>--
>Megan
<pat pat pat> That's all right dear. <pat pat pat>
We understand the occasional need to rampage.
<pat pat pat pat pat pat pat>
The (hopefully soothing) Bookwurm <g>
Rhino7
>that would be TERRIBLE. Absolutely not to be born.
Not to be *borne*.
>So, no, it doesn't.
<snip>
>--
>Megan
>Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
>Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
You have been pedanted.
The Bookwurm (seriously out of practice)
C M
wrote:
>>Dissimilarities: Angel mopes, broods, sits in dark corners and feels
>>sorry for himself, etc. Angel is taller. Angel's "accent" is fake
>>enough to make even my untrained ear wince. (Ok, novels don't need to
>>actually perform an accent; they can leave that up to the reader.)
>>--
>>Megan
>
>'Scuse ... but ... last I knew, Angel had had his 'curse' reversed and
>was hanging out with the bad vamps.
>
>What happened in between?
>
>The (seriously out of it) Bookwurm
He got his ass kicked and got back to normal. Now he's trying to
rescue Cordelia from a demon dimension where he can go out in the sun
but his vampiric side also flourishes....
Bookwyrm
>
> >(Yes, I pick trash up off of sidewalks, too. Tidiness-freak.)
> >--
> >Megan
>
> <confession mode> And *I* save worms from drowning in mud puddles.
> </confession>
>
> The Bookwurm
Well, you can come here to Mpls. and save the ones on my driveway. We're
in the second day of a forecast four-day rain/drizzle/showers sequence.
I *don't want* any more water in my basement!!! (Mopping up water takes
away from my orgy of Sean Bean watching. <snicker>)
Bookwyrm
JamHpp
>>that would be TERRIBLE. Absolutely not to be born.
>
>Not to be *borne*.
>
>>So, no, it doesn't.
><snip>
>>--
>>Megan
>>Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
>>Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
>
>You have been pedanted.
<VEG> Unless Megan _meant_ to say it that way.
Formerly posting as Lur...@The.Threshold
Remove the obvious Spam Trap please
Mummy Az
wrote:
>'Scuse ... but ... last I knew, Angel had had his 'curse' reversed and
>was hanging out with the bad vamps.
>
>What happened in between?
>
>The (seriously out of it) Bookwurm
For episode synopses:
http://www.angelicslayer.com/angelsoul/main.html
And for the corresponding Buffy site
http://www.angelicslayer.com/tbcs/
I check these sites pretty frequently so I know what to look out for
in episodes (since we're a long way behind).
Az
--
We can't become stronger by taking away somebody else's self esteem,
that's just bullying. We have to heighten our _own_ self-esteem if
we want to get anywhere.
Allison Rushby, allmenarebastards.com
Rhino7
>in episodes (since we're a long way behind).
>
>Az
Thanks ever so, Your Majesty!
The Bookwurm (with brand new favorites)
Megan
>
> >>If it makes you a pariah, it makes our God Of Flirtation a pariah, and
> >>that would be TERRIBLE. Absolutely not to be born.
> >Not to be *borne*.
> >
> >You have been pedanted.
>
> <VEG> Unless Megan _meant_ to say it that way.
<Megan cudgels her brain, frantically trying to think of a way that
'born' would have been a meaningful choice in that sentence.>
Good try, Lurker, but I think she got me on that one.
Ah, well, I can't be perfect all the time, right? <eg>
--
Megan, not feeling humble today
Megan
>
> >I'm on a "remember to snip the irrelevant stuff" rampage. Not a
> >"remove all formatting marks that let one know what is going on"
> >rampage.
> >--
> >Megan
>
> <pat pat pat> That's all right dear. <pat pat pat>
> We understand the occasional need to rampage.
> <pat pat pat pat pat pat pat>
yeah, and few people feel the need as often as I do. :)
> The (hopefully soothing) Bookwurm <g>
No worries, I'm soothed. Spent 2+ hours in a hot tub two nights ago.
I'm VERY soothed.
(Also trying to think of a way to get hot tub access without traveling
300+ miles for the privilege. Darn. Grad student income does not
lead to housing of the sort that features hot tubs, and most of the
folks I know are grad students. Darn.)
--
Megan
Megan
>
> >(Yes, I pick trash up off of sidewalks, too. Tidiness-freak.)
> >--
> >Megan
>
> <confession mode> And *I* save worms from drowning in mud puddles.
> </confession>
They can drown? I thought they didn't breath much, so they couldn't
drown. Huh. Guess I'll have to keep my eyes on the local puddles.
(Which won't be showing up again until... oh... October.)
kem_tek
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> >
> > Megan wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > (Yes, I pick trash up off of sidewalks, too. Tidiness-freak.)
>
> > And _you_ claim to be a Geek?!?
> > Or... did you? <G>
>
> I did; I am.
>
> Computer geeks seem to come in 2 kinds. The incredibly untidy (the
> common stereotype) and the very tidy. While more rare, the latter
> kind of geek does exist. :)
And Meg is the exception to prove the rule?
> --
> Megan
> Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
> Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
--
I'm glad my Mom named me Aaron,
That's what everybody calls me.
Hemidemisemideity of Anonymous Eponymity
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
<snippage, for sake--EG>
<releaved sigh>
So, you're _really_ just normal...
<another extremely EG>
> --
> Megan, not feeling humble today
--
J.-O.
---
Member of the Temple of Kink
Most Recent Owner of a Full Pedant's Licens/ce
The Ador-ant of Bookwurm, Pedant in Chief
Current Song: The little inascence-tune everybody's whistling at
those moments....
Why: Have a look at Megan's face right now. I think she's giving
the
color red an entirely new dimension... <EG>
Megan
> Megan wrote:
<snip>
> Current Song: The little inascence-tune everybody's whistling at
> those moments....
> Why: Have a look at Megan's face right now. I think she's giving
> the
> color red an entirely new dimension... <EG>
Not really. I'm wearing the confused look of someone who doesn't get
the joke. :(
Jens-Oliver Tofahrn
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>> Megan wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Megan, not feeling humble today
>
>> Current Song: The little inascence-tune everybody's whistling at
>> those moments....
>> Why: Have a look at Megan's face right now. I think she's giving
>> the color red an entirely new dimension... <EG>
>
> Not really. I'm wearing the confused look of someone who doesn't
> get the joke. :(
I'll wait a few minutes more, until you re-read the
"normal"-remark you just snipped... <G>
> --
> Megan
--
J.-O.
---
Member of the Temple of Kink
Most Recent Owner of a Full Pedant's Licens/ce
The Ador-ant of Bookwurm, Pedant in Chief
Current Song: "Probably Me" by Sting
Why: Recent review of Lethal Weapon 3
Nightshade
>> Megan, not feeling humble today
Poor Humble.
Nightshade (hoping he doesn't mind all that much)
*****************************************************
Goddess of Kink
"Oh no." said Nanny. "I couldn't be having with a man
with a limp."
"Limp what?" said Magrat.
(misquoted from Pterry)
******************************************************
Megan
>
> >> Megan, not feeling humble today
>
> Poor Humble.
>
> Nightshade (hoping he doesn't mind all that much)
POINT!
FireRose
Dodger wrote:
> Hi. I just subscribed up to this NG, and was looking through, and I must
> admit I am a little confused about somehting...
> <snipples>
Hi there Dodger. Glad you could join the group. I guess you can tell what
book I like best by my name. <g> Welcome to the place, now get comfy and
join the fun!
FireRose
Co-goddess of birds
Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> > Megan wrote:
> > > Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
> > >> Megan wrote:
> > >>> Who is Karl May?
> > >> An ancient German author who wrote Winnetou and Old Shatterhand,
> > >> for instance; They were filmed with Pierre Brice and Lex Barker.
> > >> May wrote mostly books about the "Wild West".
> > > May wrote about the 'Wild West'? The 'Wild West' in the USA?
> > Yes, and it is said that he kept closer to the truth than others
> > did...
> Weird. I thought it was a United States-only thing to romanticize the
> Wild West. Didn't realize the infatuation had spread across the seas!
<SMILE> For years, Firesong had a picture on him web page of
himself dressed up as a gunslinger from the wild west, complete with
a more-or-less wild west background. He had it taken at a park not
all that far away from his home in Sheffield
Oh great. Now I have "Gunslinger" from _Songs_of_Couch_and_
_Consultation_ trying to compete with "Karev Yom," which is playing
on my CD righ now. This does not work. <wry smile>
> > No.
> > Though I saw _that_, too, somewhere, I rather thought of this:
> > --------<example begin>--------
> > J.-O.:
> > Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
> > confused about just what is new and what is not...
> > <snip>
> > Megan:
> > That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies, and I
> > just give up trying to make sense of the preceding conversation
> > anyway.
> > J.-O.:
> > Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
> > 'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff instead
> <snip>
> > --------<example end>--------
> > See what I mean?--It would save us from all those >>>>>>>>'s...
> <snip>
> Oh, that sort of thing would be very nice. Hard to implement, though.
> :)
It does seem like more work, somehow. <smile>
<pause> I hope you don't mind that I don't trim more. By the time
I get around to answering a post, I'm afraid no one will remember
the conversation. I end up hopingthat if I leave enough, folks will
remember. <rueful smile>
Anne
Elizabeth
Baldwin
Copper Squirrel
They were filmed with Pierre Brice and Lex Barker.
>> > >> May wrote mostly books about the "Wild West".
>> > >>> Who is Karl May?
>> > >> An ancient German author who wrote Winnetou and Old Shatterhand,
>> > >> for i
> <SMILE> For years, Firesong had a picture on him web page of
>himself dressed up as a gunslinger from the wild west, complete with
>a more-or-less wild west background. He had it taken at a park not
>all that far away from his home in Sheffield
>
>
> Oh great. Now I have "Gunslinger" from _Songs_of_Couch_and_
>_Consultation_ trying to compete with "Karev Yom," which is playing
>on my CD righ now. This does not work. <wry smile>
>
Personally, I prefer the version by the Limelighters, but what the
hey...."90% of the gunmen you killed were simply accident prone,
Gunslinger!"
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>
> Megan wrote:
>> Jens-Oliver Tofahrn wrote:
>>> No.
>>> Though I saw _that_, too, somewhere, I rather thought of this:
>
>>> --------<example begin>--------
>>> J.-O.:
>>> Better than: "> >> >:> :" or the like... <G> Sometimes you get
>>> confused about just what is new and what is not...
>>> <snip>
>
>>> Megan:
>>> That's the other issue. More than about 3 reply-to-replies,
>>> and I just give up trying to make sense of the preceding
>>> conversation anyway.
>
>>> J.-O.:
>>> Some time ago, I was thinking about making it some kind of
>>> 'multi'-logue, setting the names before the quoted stuff
>>> instead
>> <snip>
>>> --------<example end>--------
>
>>> See what I mean?--It would save us from all those >>>>>>>>'s...
>> <snip>
>
>> Oh, that sort of thing would be very nice. Hard to implement,
>> though. :)
>
> It does seem like more work, somehow. <smile>
<sigh>
Transforming a post from 'old' to 'new' is work, indeed.
And it doesn't improve the, uhm, overview very much.
I tried it with one of your/our posts, Anne, and after a while, I
couldn't help loosing track myself, for that post was so much, uhm,
encapsulated.
What would work for an online chat doesn't simply work for a
newsgroup.
I'm sorry.
> <pause> I hope you don't mind that I don't trim more. By the time
> I get around to answering a post, I'm afraid no one will remember
> the conversation. I end up hopingthat if I leave enough, folks will
> remember. <rueful smile>
Hey, that's okay with me. Just go ahead.
> Anne
> Elizabeth
> Baldwin
>
>> Megan
>> Acolyte to the God of Grilled SPAM
>> Keeper o' the FAQ: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mct/abml/
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> >
> > Oh great. Now I have "Gunslinger" from _Songs_of_Couch_and_
> >_Consultation_ trying to compete with "Karev Yom," which is playing
> >on my CD righ now. This does not work. <wry smile>
> >
>
> Personally, I prefer the version by the Limelighters, but what the
> hey...."90% of the gunmen you killed were simply accident prone,
> Gunslinger!"
LOL! I've got that one on vinyl.
Bookwyrm
Amethyst
:In a land and time very much like our own, Megan awoke and said:
:
:> I'm on a "remember to snip the irrelevant stuff" rampage.
:I second this motion! I'd noticed that people were getting away from this, as
:well, I just didn't want to be the one to say something! :-) I have unlimited
:access, but even I get tired of scrolling through a couple pages of quotes just
:to get to one new line! And is it entirely necessary to leave the other
:person's entire .sig? I know mine is long enough that I don't want to see it in
:every post! *G*
May I third this motion? With Charis around, and only being able to
check abm-l once a week or so, I tend to skip any posts where the
entire first, and sometimes second, screen is all former postage.
<shrug> I simply don't have the luxury of paging down several times
just to start reading.
~Amethyst the Not-Peeved, but Petitioning.
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Anne Elizabeth Baldwin
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:25:09 -0700, Anne Elizabeth Baldwin <nstance;
> They were filmed with Pierre Brice and Lex Barker.
> >> > >> May wrote mostly books about the "Wild West".
> >> > >>> Who is Karl May?
> >> > >> An ancient German author who wrote Winnetou and Old
> >> > >> Shatterhand, for i
> > <SMILE> For years, Firesong had a picture on him web page of
> >himself dressed up as a gunslinger from the wild west, complete with
> >a more-or-less wild west background. He had it taken at a park not
> >all that far away from his home in Sheffield
> > Oh great. Now I have "Gunslinger" from _Songs_of_Couch_and_
> >_Consultation_ trying to compete with "Karev Yom," which is playing
> >on my CD righ now. This does not work. <wry smile>
> Personally, I prefer the version by the Limelighters, but what
> the hey...."90% of the gunmen you killed were simply accident prone,
> Gunslinger!"
That's "93.6%" on _Songs_of_Couch_and_Consultation_, but yes.
<chuckle>
But it just doesn't go with "Karev Yom", especially since the
latter is straight. <chuckle>
Anne
Elizabeth
Baldwin