For our friend Andy

[Sinclair]

I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your
right to say it?

Voltaire is most often credited with the saying, this is a widespread
mistake, and that the quote was originally said by Ewelyn Beatrice
Hall n her biography on Voltaire, Hall wrote the phrase: "I disapprove
of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
She wrote under the pseudonym S.G. Tallentyre

Andy may you live forever and may the last voice you hear be mine

[AndyS]

Andy replies;
Well, I recently saw a report on TV that those who consumed an
ounce of ethanol a day ( 1 tall beer) could well live to be a hundred
due to the positive effects of ethanol on the human system....
I have therefore resolved to live to be a thousand, and an taking
steps to do so....
After all, what is the sense of science if one can't use it to
better their own lifestyle.........????

On another topic, I don't know JackSchmit about "Voltaire", but
I've been saying that quotation for several decades. In fact, I am
the one who originally said it...... in all probability......... as
far
as I can remember.

Sin, I like your Schmidt, nearly all the time.... Please sober up
enough to keep it interesting...

Andy in Eureka, Texas

[Sinclair]

Scots whisky made from fermented mash of grain contains the substance
ethanol, also called ethyl alcohol, pure alcohol, grain alcohol, or
drinking alcohol, a volatile, flammable, colourless liquid.

Moral a wee dram of Scots whisky a day and live forever. Andy I hope
you do live forever and the last voice you hear is mine

[AndyS]

On May 19, 5:01 am, Sinclair <aguarant...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Scots whisky made from fermented mash of grain contains the substance
> ethanol, also called ethyl alcohol, pure alcohol, grain alcohol, or
> drinking alcohol, a volatile, flammable, colourless liquid.
>

***** ethyl alcohol = ethanol C2 H4 OH..... The same stuff they mix
with gas to "stretch" it.... a hell of a waste, if you ask me......

> Moral a wee dram of Scots whisky a day and live forever. Andy I hope
> you do live forever and the last voice you hear is mine

Andy comments
Since it is unlikely we will ever meet, I endorse that
sentiment :>)))))

[JimCo]

Andy, Andy, Andy,,,,my good friend. Haven't heard from you for awhile
since our email picture swaps. But I'm disappointed in you. Ethanol is
C2 H5OH, not C2 H4OH. I.e., H3C-CH2-OH, as best I can write a
structural formula in this format. (Please don't be offended. I'm sure
it was an honest typo. ; - )) A while ago I had some guy in another
newsgroup really get mad at me when he had cited Ohm's law as E=I/R
instead of I=E/R and I, in jest, said that this must be Ohmigosh's
law. Gee; I had even posted with a smiley emoticon!
JimCo

[AndyS]

On May 22, 5:13 pm, JimCo <chemc...@ksu.edu> wrote:

> Andy, Andy, Andy,,,,my good friend. Haven't heard from you for awhile
> since our email picture swaps. But I'm disappointed in you. Ethanol is
> C2 H5OH, not C2 H4OH. I.e., H3C-CH2-OH, as best I can write a
> structural formula in this format. (Please don't be offended. I'm sure
> it was an honest typo. ; - )) A while ago I had some guy in another
> newsgroup really get mad at me when he had cited Ohm's law as E=I/R
> instead of I=E/R and I, in jest, said that this must be Ohmigosh's
> law. Gee; I had even posted with a smiley emoticon!
> JimCo

Andy replies,
You're absolutely correct ...... I was wro.... wrrrrr...wroooo.....
made
a typo. :>))))

I don't know how that happened, since I have such an intimate
relation to those combinations of carbon and hydrogen .........old
friends, as it were.........

Regarding getting upset ,it's hard to understand how someone can be
so sensitive to get
worked up at these minor corrections when all one has to do is
turn off the computer and the "offending influence" disappears
totally from the reader's reality........ Apparently the British cult
on
that other newsgroup hasn't stumbled on to that fact yet... :>)))))

I've been meaning to email you for the last couple days, but we
had something come up and I had to take Joanie to the hospital.
All is well, tho, and I'll be pounding something out shortly......

I hope all that tornado and stormy weather missed you up
in Kansas. It seems that lately it has all been a little north
of us, ..... and I don't miss it a bit !!!!

While we are on the subject, do your recognize:
C2 H5 N3 O6 ???? :>)))))

Andy in Texas

[JimCo]

Sorry to hear about your wife, but glad that all is well with her
again. I know how it is; I've been thru such things with my wife a few
times in the past few years. It can be quite stressful for both of us.
Thank God the really bad weather has bypassed us this year up until
now. Hope it continues to ignore our community.

In regards to C2H5N3O6. I really don't believe that such a molecule
exists! I think that you may have accidentally run across this on the
web as an erroneous empirical formula for TNT (which is: 1,3,5
trinotrotoluene). I put it into Google just for the hell of it, and
some ridiculous site came up that gave that formula for TNT. The true
empirical forumla for TNT is: C7H5N3O6. I'll describe its structure as
best I can in this format. TNT is a nitrated form of toluene, that is
C7H8. Imagine a benzene ring: a hexagon with a C atom at each vertex,
each of which has an H atom bonded to it. Since there are 6 such
vertices there are 6 C atoms bonded to 6 H atoms. Its empirical
formula, therefore, is simply C6H6. Now imagine that one H atom is
taken off and replaced by a methyl radical:-CH3. The new empirical
formula is, therefore, C7H8. That's toluene. Now remove 3 more H atoms
from other C atoms in the ring, and replace each of them with a nitro
group: -NO2 . Since I have replaced 3 more H atoms with 3 nitro
groups, the new empirical formula is C7H5(NO2)3, or simply: C7H5N3O6.
I can only assume (which is making an ass of u and me ;-)) thatTNT is
the molecule you had in mind. Unhappily I've encountered many errors
such as this in the public domain, some of them even worse! I think
that if you Google TNT, you might find a picture of the actual
structural formula that I've tried to describe here.

In case I'm wrong, and you truly know of a compound C2H5N3O6, I
certainly stand to be corrected. Best wishes, old buddy. Looking
forward to hearing from you again, and hope that all is well with you
and yours.; - )
JimCo

[AndyS]

Andy replies
No, you're absolutely correct, and it is a testament to my inability
to
proofread what I type that I inadvertently made another typo.
I've known C7H5N3O6 since I was studying explosives 60 years ago.
I just proof read the above sentence.... got it right this
time.... :>)))

To all other readers ----- I seem to mess up numbers a lot, so
please
don't go mixing chemicals together from anything I post, cause it
probly
will either blow up or make you sick....... I'll try to do better,
since being
embarassed twice in the same thread has rallied my attention......
(This probably also applies to cooking recipes, phone numbers,
and porn passwords :>)))) )

I received your Email, Jim, and am looking forward to additional
follow-up when you have a chance.

Andy in Eureka, Texas