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JohnnyPez9

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Here, for your amusement & edification, is the most complete list of stories in
the Robot/Foundation series I've been able to assemble. The list is in
chronological order and includes stories by authors other than Asimov (which is
what makes it insanely complete).

"Robbie" (I, Robot)
"Robot AL-76 Goes Astray" (The Rest of the Robots)
"Satisfaction Guaranteed" (The Rest of the Robots)
"Runaround" (I, Robot)
"Reason" (I, Robot)
"Catch That Rabbit" (I, Robot)
"Balance" by Mike Resnick (Foundation's Friends)
"Liar" (I, Robot)
"Lenny" (The Rest of the Robots)
"Blot" by Hal Clement (Foundation's Friends)
"Little Lost Robot" (I, Robot)
"Escape!" (I, Robot)
"Risk" (The Rest of the Robots)
"Evidence" (I, Robot)
"PAPPI" by Sheila Finch (Foundation's Friends)
"Galley Slave" (The Rest of the Robots)
"Pluto's Cave" by Poul Anderson (Foundation's Friends)
"First Law" (The Rest of the Robots)
"The Evitable Conflict" (I, Robot)
"Feminine Intuition" (The Bicentennial Man)
"The Fourth Law of Robotics" by Harry Harrison (Foundation's Friends)
_Robots in Time_ by William F. Wu (six volumes)
"Carhunters of the Concrete Prairie" by Robert Sheckley (Foundation's Friends)
"That Thou Art Mindful of Him" (The Bicentennial Man)
"The Bicentennial Man" (The Bicentennial Man)
"Mother Earth" (The Early Asimov)
_The Caves of Steel_
_The Naked Sun_
"Mirror Image" (The Best of Isaac Asimov)
_The Robots of Dawn_
"Strip-Runner" by Pamela Sargent (Foundation's Friends)
_Robots and Empire_
_Robot City_ by Michael P. Kube-McDowell et al. (twelve volumes)
_Caliban_ by Roger Allen McBride
_Inferno_ by Roger Allen McBride
_Utopia_ by Roger Allen McBride
_The Stars, Like Dust_
_The Currents of Space_
_Pebble in the Sky_
_Prelude to Foundation_
"Eto Demerzel" (Forward the Foundation)
_Foundation's Fear_ by Gregory Benford
"Cleon I" (Forward the Foundation)
"Dors Venabili" (Forward the Foundation)
"Wanda Seldon" (Forward the Foundation)
_Foundation and Chaos_ by Greg Bear
"The Psychohistorians" (Foundation)
_Secret Foundation_ by David Brin
"The Originist" by Orson Scott Card
"The Encyclopedists" (Foundation)
"The Mayors" (Foundation)
"The Traders" (Foundation)
"The Merchant Princes" (Foundation)
"The General" (Foundation and Empire)
"Trantor Falls" by Harry Turtledove (Foundation's Friends)
"The Mule" (Foundation and Empire)
"Search by the Mule" (Second Foundation)
"Search by the Foundation" (Second Foundation)
_Foundation's Edge_
_Foundation and Earth_
"Foundation's Conscience" by George Zebrowski (Foundation's Friends)

If anyone has any corrections or additions to make, feel free. I've got one
myself--Randall Garrett once wrote a Foundation story set during the Second
Empire. It appeared in _The Best of Randall Garrett_, but I can't for the life
of me remember the title. If anyone else knows, let me know.

Johnny Pez


Herman De Wael

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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JohnnyPez9 wrote:
>
> Here, for your amusement & edification, is the most complete list of stories in
> the Robot/Foundation series I've been able to assemble. The list is in
> chronological order and includes stories by authors other than Asimov (which is
> what makes it insanely complete).
>

Great, but I have some additions :

> "Robot AL-76 Goes Astray" (The Rest of the Robots)

I did not include that in my list - don't remember why - probably a
mistake, I must add it

> "Satisfaction Guaranteed" (The Rest of the Robots)

This one I classed behind "Liar", since that is also wher IA put it in
the Complete Robot.

> "Risk" (The Rest of the Robots)
> "Evidence" (I, Robot)

I have also put these two in reverse order

> "First Law" (The Rest of the Robots)

I did not include this, but since it is with Powell and Donovan, it
deals with very early robots (even if told later) it should be way
higher.

Here I also have "the tercentenary incident" (The Bicentennial Man)

> "That Thou Art Mindful of Him" (The Bicentennial Man)
> "The Bicentennial Man" (The Bicentennial Man)

Here you should add "the Positronic Man" (Asimov and Silverberg)

> "Mother Earth" (The Early Asimov)

Great to see this included !

> "The Psychohistorians" (Foundation)

after this there is still the epilogue to Forward the Foundation

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Steven Silver

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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You left out Blind Alley, set in Asimov's 977 GE.

JohnnyPez9 wrote:
>
> Here, for your amusement & edification, is the most complete list of stories in
> the Robot/Foundation series I've been able to assemble. The list is in
> chronological order and includes stories by authors other than Asimov (which is
> what makes it insanely complete).
>

> "Robbie" (I, Robot)


> "Robot AL-76 Goes Astray" (The Rest of the Robots)

> "Satisfaction Guaranteed" (The Rest of the Robots)

> "Runaround" (I, Robot)
> "Reason" (I, Robot)
> "Catch That Rabbit" (I, Robot)
> "Balance" by Mike Resnick (Foundation's Friends)
> "Liar" (I, Robot)
> "Lenny" (The Rest of the Robots)
> "Blot" by Hal Clement (Foundation's Friends)
> "Little Lost Robot" (I, Robot)
> "Escape!" (I, Robot)

> "Risk" (The Rest of the Robots)
> "Evidence" (I, Robot)

> "PAPPI" by Sheila Finch (Foundation's Friends)
> "Galley Slave" (The Rest of the Robots)
> "Pluto's Cave" by Poul Anderson (Foundation's Friends)

> "First Law" (The Rest of the Robots)

> "The Evitable Conflict" (I, Robot)
> "Feminine Intuition" (The Bicentennial Man)
> "The Fourth Law of Robotics" by Harry Harrison (Foundation's Friends)
> _Robots in Time_ by William F. Wu (six volumes)
> "Carhunters of the Concrete Prairie" by Robert Sheckley (Foundation's Friends)

> "That Thou Art Mindful of Him" (The Bicentennial Man)
> "The Bicentennial Man" (The Bicentennial Man)

> "Mother Earth" (The Early Asimov)

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Herman De Wael

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Steven Silver wrote:
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> You left out Blind Alley, set in Asimov's 977 GE.
>

Indeed one I have also overlooked.

Just reread it, and there's nothing to suggest that it conflicts with
the foundation universe.

Except of course that in Seldon's times, nothing is known of any aliens.

Well, maybe Daneel is responsible for this being omitted from later
history.

Steven Silver

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Aug 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/16/98
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Herman De Wael wrote:
>
> Steven Silver wrote:
> >
> > You left out Blind Alley, set in Asimov's 977 GE.
> >
>
> Indeed one I have also overlooked.
>
> Just reread it, and there's nothing to suggest that it conflicts with
> the foundation universe.
>
> Except of course that in Seldon's times, nothing is known of any aliens.
>
> Well, maybe Daneel is responsible for this being omitted from later
> history.

Asimov is on record as saying it is set in the same universe as the
Galactic Empire novels and David Brin has stated that he is using it for
background (and a subplot??) in Secret Foundation.

JohnnyPez9

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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>Herman De Wael <herm...@village.uunet.be> suggests:

>> "First Law" (The Rest of the Robots)
>

>I did not include this, but since it is with Powell and Donovan, it
>deals with very early robots (even if told later) it should be way
>higher.

It depends on your point of view. Since it's a tall tale that Donovan made up
on the spot, it might as well be placed when Donovan told it rather when it
supposedly occurred.

>Here I also have "the tercentenary incident" (The Bicentennial Man)

"The Tercentenary Incident" doesn't really fit into the _I, Robot_ timeline,
since in the latter book there is no President of the United States in 2076,
simply a Northern Region Coordinator.

>Here you should add "the Positronic Man" (Asimov and Silverberg)

Since _The Positronic Man_ is simply "The Bicentennial Man" rewritten, its
inclusion would be redundant (IMO).


JohnnyPez9

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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>Steven Silver <shsi...@ameritech.net> points out:

>You left out Blind Alley, set in Asimov's 977 GE.

True. A mistake on my part (not even I'm perfect, I'm afraid). It should go
between _Pebble in the Sky_ and _Prelude to Foundation_.

Johnny Pez


David Cross

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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In article <199808170148...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
johnn...@aol.com says...

>
>>Steven Silver <shsi...@ameritech.net> points out:
>
>>You left out Blind Alley, set in Asimov's 977 GE.

Where *is* this story, anyway?

Also, to whoever did the original list...

_Caliban_, _Inferno_, and _Utopia_ were written by Roger MacBride Allen.


Richard Schultz

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Steven Silver (shsi...@ameritech.net) wrote:
: You left out Blind Alley, set in Asimov's 977 GE.

He also left out "Robot Dreams," "Robot Visions," "Light Verse," "The
Tercentenary Incident," "Let's Get Together," and the Donovan/Powell
story about the robot for whom the ties of mother love outweighed
the First Law. To name a few; I'm pretty sure that there were others.

: > "Search by the Mule" (Second Foundation)

This was originally published as a serial in _Astounding_, and I
am pretty sure that its original title was "Now You See It."

: > "Search by the Foundation" (Second Foundation)

And on its magazine publication, *this* serial was called "--And Now
You Don't."

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JohnnyPez9

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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>David Cross asks:

><shsi...@ameritech.net> points out:


>>
>>>You left out Blind Alley, set in Asimov's 977 GE.
>

>Where *is* this story, anyway?
>

It's in _The Early Asimov_. If you've got the paperback edition, its in volume
2.

>Also, to whoever did the original list...
>
>_Caliban_, _Inferno_, and _Utopia_ were written by Roger MacBride Allen.

Whoops. Consider the List suitably amended.

Johnny Pez


JohnnyPez9

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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>Richard Schultz points out:

>He also left out "Robot Dreams," "Robot Visions," "Light Verse," "The
>Tercentenary Incident," "Let's Get Together," and the Donovan/Powell
>story about the robot for whom the ties of mother love outweighed
>the First Law.

"The Tercentenary Incident" and "Let's Get Together" were excluded because
they're inconsistent with the background established in _I, Robot_ (ie no
President of the United States or Cold War in the 21st century). The Donovan
(no Powell) story "First Law" was too included. As for the others, I admitted
that the List was incomplete. Any robot story that fits into the _I, Robot_
background (ie mentions Susan Calvin or US Robots) should go on the List; any
story that doesn't (including the Multivac stories) shouldn't. It's been so
long since I've read "Sally" for instance, that I'm not sure whether to include
it or not. So I put it to you, Richard: which robot stories fit into the
background established in _I, Robot_?

Johnny Pez


JohnnyPez9

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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>Richard Schultz also points out:

>: > "Search by the Mule" (Second Foundation)
>
>This was originally published as a serial in _Astounding_, and I
>am pretty sure that its original title was "Now You See It."
>
>: > "Search by the Foundation" (Second Foundation)
>
>And on its magazine publication, *this* serial was called "--And Now
>You Don't."
>

Most of the Foundation stories were retitled when IA put them together in the
Trilogy, to wit:
"The Encyclopedists"="Foundation"
"The Mayors"="Bridle and Saddle"
"The Traders"="The Wedge"
"The Merchant Princes"="The Big and the Little"
"The General"="Dead Hand"
also, "Eto Demerzel" was originally called "Cleon the Emperor" when it appeared
in _Asimov's_. If you want, I'll include both titles in future versions of the
List, but for the time being I decided to stick with the stories' final titles.

Johnny Pez


Motti Lanzkron

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Aug 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/20/98
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JohnnyPez9 wrote:

> Here, for your amusement & edification, is the most complete list of stories in
> the Robot/Foundation series I've been able to assemble.  The list is in
> chronological order and includes stories by authors other than Asimov (which is
> what makes it insanely complete).

> If anyone has any corrections or additions to make, feel free.  I've got one
> myself--Randall Garrett once wrote a Foundation story set during the Second
> Empire.  It appeared in _The Best of Randall Garrett_, but I can't for the life
> of me remember the title.  If anyone else knows, let me know.
>
> Johnny Pez

I just wrote a post not long ago about "The End of Eternity" fitting in, wouldn't
you agree?

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John Fairhurst

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Aug 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/21/98
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In article <35D6D857...@village.uunet.be>, Herman De Wael informed
us that...

> Well, maybe Daneel is responsible for this being omitted from later
> history.
>
>
I'm not sure that Daneel would have needed to elide it. Given the way the
aliens were going before they 'got away', it's probably a fair bet that
the Imperial Bureaucracy just 'forgot' about them once they'd gone. I
know it's easy to see Daneel as the all-too-literal Deux-Ex-Machina but
as he indicated, it's easier for him to egg-on an already present
tendency than to introduce a brand new one
This could relate to Daneel's lingering uneasiness about the
possibility of aliens in Foundation & Earth. I know it seemed to Trevise
that the aliens were supposed to be the Solarians but who knows...?
--
John Fairhurst
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