BBC Radio Version of the Foundation Trilogy
SAS
There seems to be an interest in the BBC radio version of the
Foundation Trilogy. I would be willing to post it to one of the
groups, but I think it should be one that most of us can access. One
person has indicated that they don't get
alt.binaries.sounds.radio.bbc, which is where I acquired it.
Two other likely candidates are alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc and
alt.binaries.sounds.radio.repost. I can post to two different groups
since it doesn't take up any more space on the servers than one, but
more than that people tend to get ticked off.
Each file is about 27mb. Hopefully we have some die-hard fans on
dial-up, too. ;-)
So, if you would, let me know if you're interested and which groups
you have access to. I can say with confidence you won't be
disappointed (not that there aren't a few quirky things, but we can
talk about that _after_ you've listened to them ;-)
Steve
Robert A.N. Stutz
Rob :)
SAS
Okay, I answered my own question.
If anyone needs it, here is a free server that carries
alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc:
This being the case, this is the group that I will post to, starting
tonight, or maybe tomorrow. I'm thinking one upload per day (or
night... I may have cable, but the upload speed is slooooooow ;-)
Steve
Andre Beckershoff
Thanks!!!!! ;-)))
That's great news! The newsserver works ... although it does not have
alt.books.dan-simmons .... I've not seen a single free server with that
group ...
Maybe someone can store the files on a webserver or make them available
to WinMX or so, cause you never know ...
Thanks in advance!!
Andre
DJohn37050
exactly who is speaking and some of the sound effects are a little woo-woo, but
that just adds to the campiness for me.
Don Johnson
Andre Beckershoff
Hi,
thanks for uploading the file ... but the first file I found was part 2
of 8?? Did I miss the first part or is it yet to come ....??? If the
latter, please upload that one next, because I'll try to listen to them
in the correct order ;-))))
A.
SAS
Sorry bud. I'm posting them in order. Did Ep 1 the first day. Doing
one episode a day so as not to overwhelm the dial-up crowd. I'll do a
repost after completing the series. I'm not entirely comfortable
doing it so soon with such a big file, and that way everyone can be
expecting it, in case they caught on late too. Man, that group really
must be pushing through a lotta files to have already bumped off Ep 1
in two days. I checked it too, and it's not there. Sorry to delay
your gratification. :-(
Steve
Dave G
> Andre,
>
> Sorry bud. I'm posting them in order. Did Ep 1 the first day. Doing
> one episode a day so as not to overwhelm the dial-up crowd. I'll do a
> repost after completing the series. I'm not entirely comfortable
> doing it so soon with such a big file, and that way everyone can be
> expecting it, in case they caught on late too. Man, that group really
> must be pushing through a lotta files to have already bumped off Ep 1
> in two days. I checked it too, and it's not there. Sorry to delay
> your gratification. :-(
>
> Steve
[SNIP]
Very nice of you to do a repost, I missed ep1 too. REALLY looking forward
to it all. If I may make a suggestion: use winrar and par files.
:)
--Dave.
Ogden Johnson III
>Andre,
>
>Sorry bud. I'm posting them in order. Did Ep 1 the first day. Doing
>one episode a day so as not to overwhelm the dial-up crowd. I'll do a
>repost after completing the series. I'm not entirely comfortable
>doing it so soon with such a big file, and that way everyone can be
>expecting it, in case they caught on late too. Man, that group really
>must be pushing through a lotta files to have already bumped off Ep 1
>in two days. I checked it too, and it's not there. Sorry to delay
>your gratification. :-(
When it got "bumped off" is not a function of the newsgroup, it exists
only on master "backbone" news servers which ISPs draw from, and on
*your* ISP's news servers. While most ISPs carry binaries groups,
some don't carry them at all [the one I use, cis.dfn.de is one of
those]. Of those ISPs who carry the binaries groups, a lot of them
have relatively short "expire" times [Usenetese for the amount of time
a post will remain on a given news server] of 12 hours to 48 hours.
Others might have them for a week before they expire them. Some paid
servers maintain an expire time of 2 to 4 weeks. For comparison, most
news servers have at least a 14-day expire time for discussion
newsgroups, and many are in the 28- to 56-day range.
SO, although Ep 1 may have disappeared from *your* news feed, it
hasn't necessarily disappeared from those other a.b.i-a denizens use.
OJ III
SAS
My pleasure. The next one will be going up shortly.
I may need more of a lesson on the reasons to use WinRAR. I have it
and have used it, but mainly it seemed to be for really large files,
like video. I don't understand the need to use it for relatively
small files, even 27mb. Traffic on the old- and new-time radio groups
that I frequent proceeds fine from my perspective without it. And the
PAR files steal more bandwidth and server storage. All three servers
I use got the files fine: local ISP (which outsources to SuperNews),
TeraNews and the free university server. This is just my take on the
situation; I've done no more research than the usage I've described.
If I'm missing a few pieces of the puzzle, please clue me in.
If anything, though, I should be using YEnc to encode. I suppose
that'll be when Free Agent gets it (which should be shortly) or if I
decide to get a program that'll post multiple programs more easily
than FA (but I rarely do that).
I see that you still have an @home email address. I didn't know that
there were still places that hadn't made the transition. If you're
willing: what's the scoop.
Thanks,
Steve
SAS
use. And it _was_ on the free one I posted about, though it
disappeared after about a day, which seems unusual. Stuff usually
lasts longer there. Go figure.
I just assumed that the amount of files posted to a group (or possibly
Usenet as a whole) affected how long stuff was retained (new files
pushing out old) I probably got that impression from people on
Usenet, ie no research.
So are you saying that posting and reposting of the same material is
no big deal (no burden on the system)?
Steve
On Sat, 25 May 2002 22:38:51 -0400, Ogden Johnson III <o...@cpcug.org>
wrote:
Ogden Johnson III
>Roger that. Yeah, Ep 1 is still there on two of the three servers I
>use. And it _was_ on the free one I posted about, though it
>disappeared after about a day, which seems unusual. Stuff usually
>lasts longer there. Go figure.
>
>I just assumed that the amount of files posted to a group (or possibly
>Usenet as a whole) affected how long stuff was retained (new files
>pushing out old) I probably got that impression from people on
>Usenet, ie no research.
Spend some time pooking around the news.admin.* hierarchy and you'll
learn more than you probably want to know about things like expire
times, binaries groups vs discussion groups, and the whys news admins
for ISPs do the things they do. [It can also be an education in the
amazing variety of kooks on the Usenet, and other species like
flamers, flooders, etc., all of whom have a bone to pick with news
admins].
>So are you saying that posting and reposting of the same material is
>no big deal (no burden on the system)?
I stopped hanging around the news.admin.* groups several years ago,
but even then the rapid expansion of the volume of binaries posts was
driving news admins nuts. They couldn't set up new storage fast
enough, even if the suits were willing to budget the money. Ergo, the
only solution they had was reducing the expire times in the binaries
groups. Back in more halcyon days, expire times were the same in
binary groups as discussion groups, and both were longer than any
you're likely to see today. As I said in my original reply, few ISPs
today will match something like cis.dfn.de's 16-week expire time; but
they do it by not carrying any binaries groups at all, and ruthlessly
stripping out every post to a discussion group that contains a binary.
More typical is my experience with the @home feed last fall. Facing
increasing demand for their broadband cable services with inadequate
infrastructure [and a static, if not shrinking, budget for that],
their expire times for discussion groups were as little as 10-days in
some areas, and for the binaries groups 6-hours, yes *6-hours*. A
hint of this situation is contained in another of your posts,
commenting on the relatively small size of these BBC posts at 27MB.
YGTBSM! "Relatively small"?!?!?!?! The entire daily feed for the
average, moderately high traffic [say 300-400 posts per day],
discussion news-group won't hit 1MB. [I know, with people posting
entire CDs, 27MB *is* relatively small as binaries go nowadays.]
Sorry for the rant. And given my last parenthetical, obviously
reposting of these Foundation Trilogy BBC broadcast files is not, at
27MB each, going to be even a blink of the eye in the binaries portion
of the Usenet system. [If one can use binaries, Usenet, and system in
the same sentence without choking on the words.]
OJ III
danny burstein
How large is the complete set? I might be able to rustle up web server
space for it.
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Dave G
From your reply I gather @home is no longer active as a brand?
About the WinRAR: with your first post I missed just a couple of
parts/segments.
What would have been different with a rar posting? The file would have been
split in several winrar parts of for example 5 MB. The key is using PAR
files a(which are about as large as the winrar volumes). If I had some PAR
files I would have been able to reconstruct the missing (segments of the)
winrar volumes by reconstructing the incomplete winrar volume with SmartPAR
(or a similar program).
You're right to say that PAR files steal more bandwith. But if you post (on
average) one or 1.5 PAR files for every ten Winrar volumes it CAN save you
a repost, thus saving even more bandwith!
Also take a look at the website of SmartPAR
http://www.disc-chord.com/smartpar/
for a much better explanation of why (in my humble opinion :) every poster
should use PAR files.
:)
--Dave.
S...@erehwon.com (SAS) wrote in alt.books.isaac-asimov:
> Dave,
SAS
Thanks for the link. Been a long time since I've used SmartPAR. I
went through a phase of downloading Babylon 5 vids and PAR files came
in handy (until my ISP improved their service by outsourcing to
SuperNews). It never ceased to amaze me how much could be recovered
by them.
BTW, I posted Episodes 1 and 4 tonight. Maybe that'll catch everybody
up. Going to do the last 4 over the next two nights. I'm thinking
one per night was a little too conservative.
Steve
On Mon, 27 May 2002 08:20:31 +0000 (UTC), Dave G <da...@home.en-el>
wrote:
Andre Beckershoff
> (tried sending e-mail directly and it bounced ]
>
> How large is the complete set? I might be able to rustle up web server
> space for it.
>
Well, it's about 8 * 27 MB ... that's .... hmmm .... uh .... well ...
anybody at alt.mathematics?????
But it would be superb if you'd do that!!!!
Andre
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Ogden Johnson III
>danny burstein wrote:
>> How large is the complete set? I might be able to rustle up web server
>> space for it.
>Well, it's about 8 * 27 MB ... that's .... hmmm .... uh .... well ...
>anybody at alt.mathematics?????
216MB. Not from a.m, and, besides, I cheated.
240 [8*30] - 24 [8*3] = 216. a.m would have begun by asking "What are
the properties of 8 ..." and gone on from there for 500+ lines.
OJ III
Andre Beckershoff
> Andre Beckershoff <abec...@uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>
>>danny burstein wrote:
>>
>>Well, it's about 8 * 27 MB ... that's .... hmmm .... uh .... well ...
>>anybody at alt.mathematics?????
>>
>
> 216MB. Not from a.m, and, besides, I cheated.
I, in fact, was kidding ;-)) see below.
>
> 240 [8*30] - 24 [8*3] = 216. a.m would have begun by asking "What are
> the properties of 8 ..." and gone on from there for 500+ lines.
>
lol
Interestingly I calculated in a different way:
270 [10*27] - 54 [2*27] = 216
Of course it's the same in the end ... but we must ask ourselves, what
that says about our psyche ... In fact your way is easier, because you
calculate 3*8 twice, so you only need to do one step where I had two ...
But that's nonsense ....
A.
Andre Beckershoff
A.
SAS
You bet. I hope you enjoyed them as much as I did. They made one day
of a two day drive the other month EXTREMELY easy.
Steve
Van GoghX
audio... How do I get the video portion?
Just trying to see how many people I can get to mutter, "Idiot!"
Thanks for taking the time to upload these, Steve. Any chance you have the
lamentable (I'm assuming) Bill Shatner version? I want to do a remix with
his "Rocket Man" in the background. <grin>
Thanks,
Vince
http://BeyondAsimov.cjb.net
Larry Alpert
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I jumped into the fray here a little late. My local news server (for
some odd reason) only had the second file, which I was able to get.
What is the best source for the archive?
Larry Alpert
dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu server, but #3 was no longer available....
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Steve
On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 00:06:58 GMT, "Larry Alpert" <alp...@attbi.com>
wrote:
Larry Alpert
Much faster than going to a remote server (it seems locally the server
has about 3K-5K messages archived, the syr.edu has about 15K....).
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