Whatever happened to the Solarians?
Dion Wooning
I just finished re-reading "Robots and Empire", in which we are told
the Solarians have mysteriously left their planet... So I was wondering,
did one of the Asimov's other books ever get back to what happened to
them? If so, no spoilers please, just a title would be great :) If not,
let's speculate :) I do seem to remember that Golan Trevize visits some
of the Spacer worlds later, in one of the Foundation books, but I really
can't remember whether Solaria was among these.
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Dion Wooning
Tomek Kowalczyk
chapters in which you can find what has happened with Solarians and
Solaria. And once more, Asimov joined his Foundation series with books
about robots (reed and find out, this is really nice)
Tomek Kowalczyk
Allen Clarke
Giskard covered. His powers can't have been that good or ranged that far. There
must have been a lot of Psi noise from the Settler Ship.
I reckon the Solarians hid because they were afraid to meet people ( now that
would be surprising!)
Allen Clarke
Ed Seiler wrote:
> In article <36C7DF24...@ilion.nl>, John Kuiper <jo...@ilion.nl> wrote:
>
> >Yuo're right on that. I also finished robots and empire and I didn't
> >understand how the solarians came back on Solaria.
> >Giskard says he couln't find humans in the building, but is it really
> >true. In Foundation and Earth the solarians were super humans (they
> >are man and woman in one body) so mayby there was a kind of room witch
> >is generating this kind of super humans.
>
> I think you mean "broom witch". But Asimov never included broom witches,
> or any witches, in his stories, so your far-fetched idea doesn't hold
> water, and if it did, it would probably melt a broom witch.
>
> --
> Ed Seiler "Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie,
> edse...@clark.net Which we ascribe to heaven"
> -- Helena, "All's Well That Ends Well",
> Wm. Shakespeare
John Kuiper
understand how the solarians came back on Solaria.
Giskard says he couln't find humans in the building, but is it really
true. In Foundation and Earth the solarians were super humans (they
are man and woman in one body) so mayby there was a kind of room witch
is generating this kind of super humans.
John.
Dion Wooning wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I just finished re-reading "Robots and Empire", in which we are told
> the Solarians have mysteriously left their planet... So I was wondering,
> did one of the Asimov's other books ever get back to what happened to
> them? If so, no spoilers please, just a title would be great :) If not,
> let's speculate :) I do seem to remember that Golan Trevize visits some
> of the Spacer worlds later, in one of the Foundation books, but I really
> can't remember whether Solaria was among these.
>
> ---
> Dion Wooning
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Ed Seiler
>Yuo're right on that. I also finished robots and empire and I didn't
>understand how the solarians came back on Solaria.
>Giskard says he couln't find humans in the building, but is it really
>true. In Foundation and Earth the solarians were super humans (they
>are man and woman in one body) so mayby there was a kind of room witch
>is generating this kind of super humans.
I think you mean "broom witch". But Asimov never included broom witches,
inti...@cadmus.com
> Dion Wooning wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I just finished re-reading "Robots and Empire", in which we are told
> > the Solarians have mysteriously left their planet... So I was wondering,
> > did one of the Asimov's other books ever get back to what happened to
> > them? If so, no spoilers please, just a title would be great :) If not,
> > let's speculate :) I do seem to remember that Golan Trevize visits some
> > of the Spacer worlds later, in one of the Foundation books, but I really
> > can't remember whether Solaria was among these.
> >
> > ---
> > Dion Wooning
Nope! I just finished The Naked Sun (set on Solaria) and Asimov made major
lead- ins to a follow-up novel on Aurora to complete the trilogy, and in fact
he tried and got about four chapters in, he says, and just couldn't finish.
Something about the romance aspect got to him, he says. [I am speculating
that Elijah Baley falls in love with an Auroran and is unfaithful to Jesse;
that might have unnerved him in the 50s] So he didn't come back to Solaria in
anything I've read.
Phebe
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Allen Clarke
inti...@cadmus.com
m00dy000 wrote:
> So you haven't read the Robots of Dawn then ?
No, but I could; would you recommend it?
Allen Clarke
They are excellent follow ons.I would also recommend all 7 Foundation
Novels.
Enjoy!
Ogden Johnson III
: m00dy000 wrote:
: > So you haven't read the Robots of Dawn then ?
: No, but I could; would you recommend it?
I would certainly recommend it, Phebe, if you like Elijah Baley, Daneel
Olivaw, and their interactions. It also sets up and/or explains some
aspects of the later parts of the 'New' Foundation novels. But, IMHO,
just taken as a stand-alone follow-on to Caves of Steel and The Naked Sun
it was worth the price.
OJ III
Allen Clarke
anybody, all they really did was take it a step further and totally isolate themselves.
Allen
Gordon O'Duffaigh wrote:
> Allen Clarke wrote:
>
> > I reckon the Solarians hid because they were afraid to meet people ( now that
> > would be surprising!)
>
> Why?
> Originally they avoided seeing except as a matter of procreation. They reengineered
> themselves to avoid even that. They could hardly be expected to suddenly want to
> see people, the idea must have been abhorrent.
>
> Gordon.
Gordon O'Duffaigh
John Kuiper
greeted Trevise and friends, had no problems to "see" them.
John Kuiper
Allen Clarke wrote:
>
> My statement was ironic, the last thing any Solarian would want to so was "see"
> anybody, all they really did was take it a step further and totally isolate themselves.
>
> Allen
>
> Gordon O'Duffaigh wrote:
>
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Ogden Johnson III
: This isn't logical, because in Foundation and Earth the solarian, who
: greeted Trevise and friends, had no problems to "see" them.
IIRC, and it *has* been too long since I've reread F&E, didn't that
solarian also tell Trevise and friends that a) s/h/it was considered
eccentric by other solarians, b) s/h/it was a scientist of sorts, by
solarian standards at any rate, and c) it didn't matter anyway, because
Trevise and friends would be eliminated following the 'study', therefore
preventing any solarian from discovering s/h/it's 'perverse, anti-solarian
behavior'?
OJ III
Gordon O'Duffaigh
Ogden Johnson III wrote:
There is definitly mention made of the Solarian drawing attention to its
perverse interest in Galactic affairs and I believe it also mentions its
discomfort with personal presence.
Gordon.
David Howdon
: IIRC, and it *has* been too long since I've reread F&E, didn't that
: solarian also tell Trevise and friends that a) s/h/it was considered
: eccentric by other solarians, b) s/h/it was a scientist of sorts, by
: solarian standards at any rate, and c) it didn't matter anyway, because
: Trevise and friends would be eliminated following the 'study', therefore
: preventing any solarian from discovering s/h/it's 'perverse, anti-solarian
: behavior'?
And the Solarian custom was against seeing other 'people' not against seeing
inferior animals as the 'half-humans' were.
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