Retired
Allan Pengelly
I guess that this will be a bit of a surprise to a lot of you, as I cannot
remember when I last posted here and having gone through a couple of
computer changes and hard drive formats I cannot look back and find out. But
it's good to see that this newsgroup is still active as unlike a lot of
other fan-based groups that have fallen by the wayside you realised a long
time ago that you needed being fans of Dean Koontz as an excuse to get
together rather than a requirement (I could not possibly wade through all
the messages since I last subscribed to the group). Anyway, there are
some familiar names still here, so hello Linda, Pauline, Fred and others. I
am still alive, still single and looking for love in all the wrong places. I
guess that the main thing that has inspired this message is that I have just
retired and I recall saying in my early days here that when I did so I
wanted to rediscover my favourite authors (including Dean). So I have my
reading room set up (actually it's set up as a cinema, but my favourite
chair is in there, my books are within reach and I can put a MP3 disk with
my favourite musical selections in the DVD player instead of a movie) and
while I originally used horror authors like Dean as a means of staying awake
on night shift I know that when I am home I have a tendency to go to bed too
early and be awake in the wee small hours which will be the best time to go
on my voyage of rediscovery. I think that I have a bit of catching up to do
as well, as "False Memory" is still the last of Dean's books I read and I
know that there have been others since which I will go looking for over the
weekend and who knows? I may even be able to post some comments in future
and introduce a rare on-topic thread here.
Allan
Linda
year and we are having the best time ever!!! I would say avoid "The Taking"
at all costs. The Husband is good and The Good Guy is even better....read
lots and come back here and post lots. One of my most vivid memories of you
(besides your ballroom dancing) is of you eating a chicken with your bare
hands...somehow that's never escaped me. Welcome home Mr. President.
:)
Linda
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FRED
It's good to see you back. You may have retired from your job, but at least
you didn't retired from the DK group.
You will find that Koontz' style of writing has changed drastically from his
earlier books. Some good, some bad and some horrendous. It's all a matter
of reading taste and opinions.
Fred
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Clare
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Clare
long time no see.
Congrats on your retirement I hope you enjoy it!
Lots of changes in Koontz writing but us lot have stayed the same ;)
Do start up some posts it'll be interesting ot see what you make of the
writing style.
Clare
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FRED
Fred
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Linda
:)
Linda
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Clare
the local WW group to burn!!!!
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FRED
You can see the turmoil that one book can cause.
Fred
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Allan Pengelly
I did read to end of the replies to this thread and it looks like opinions
are varied as regards the books that have followed "False Memory" so I guess
the best option is to read them for myself as sometimes I can see things
that others miss, or have a differing opinion but that is what discussion is
all about. Might take a while as I have a couple from Wilbur Smith and
perhaps even Stephen King to catch up with as well. I would guess that Dean
is keeping us in suspense still with the Snowman series? As far as the
chickens, I still like to check them out at the local Woolworths if I happen
to be out and about when they are about to close (which is unlikely these
days) and so those who came late do not get the wrong idea if they had been
marked down I liked to pick one up, have the thighes and drumsticks for
supper (and yes, sometimes devoured the whole thing if I was hungry) and
make sandwiches from the rest over the next couple of days.
Allan
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Linda
"Blaze" from King, well AKA King...it was entertaining. Snowman is still
stalled big-time...Odd Thomas seems to be getting most of Dean's attention
these days, to the chagrin of many, I liked the first and third...not so
much the second installment. Can't wait to hear what you think of them.
Glad to see you back.
:)
Linda
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Pauline
His new book "The Good Guy" is a great book.
Pauline
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Pauline
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Pauline
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Pauline
abdk. Not dedicated enough.
Did anyone tell you that Trixie (Dean's dog) died recently.
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Tamara CallaLilly
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Welcome back Allan - how is your hometown (it's Sydney isn't it) ? As you
can see, we are all still here, chatting about families, storms, fire,
floods and wind. There's been some fascinating stories about how close it's
all come to our American friends.
So, you've reached the mandatory age of 65 to retire or did you take an
early retirement? What did you do before you retired? I've got a few more
years before that reality occurs for me. John and I just bought the 'great
Australian dream' and will be moving in the next few weeks into our mortgage
(unlike so many others, we have bought a modest home within our means and if
one of us [God forbid] ever lost our job or life or were unable to
contribute financially, then we can still afford to pay the mortgage, car
and LIVE on the others income. A very rare case these days it seems).
My son has joined the Air Force Cadets and is LOVING it. He loves doing
drills and practices for half an hour each day at home. The discipline is
spreading to both school and home and we LOVE it too!!!
So that's us, the others will fill you in on them.
O and if you haven't read the Odd Thomas books or Life Expectancy, I'll say
now - EWWW SUGARY! If you haven't read The Husband - do so, it's a GREAT
return to the 'old' Dean Koontz!
Opinions have been polarised - either you really like or you really dislike
the OT and LE books, but you don't remain indifferent *smile*
Welcome back.
Tamara
Tamara CallaLilly
just wonderful!
Tamara
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Pauline
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Pauline
in Scouting (and Guiding for me), and they certainly had a major impact on
our lives. Rick (brother) especially, Dad died when he was 13 (I was 11)
and Rick got lots of good male role models from Scouting. He is still a
leader and has been for over 20 years,
I am happy for your home purchase, and like you we are always modest in our
expectations. That is the next step for us, to sell our Villa in Warriewood
and to buy a house on Northern Beaches. We don't need a McMansion (only two
of us), and we will start the process shortly.
Pauline
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Tamara CallaLilly
> Good for Arthur for joining the Cadets, both my brother and I were
> involved in Scouting (and Guiding for me), and they certainly had a major
> impact on our lives. Rick (brother) especially, Dad died when he was 13
> (I was 11) and Rick got lots of good male role models from Scouting. He
> is still a leader and has been for over 20 years,
>
> I am happy for your home purchase, and like you we are always modest in
> our expectations. That is the next step for us, to sell our Villa in
> Warriewood and to buy a house on Northern Beaches. We don't need a
> McMansion (only two of us), and we will start the process shortly.
>
> Pauline
>
girl Guide, Venturer and then, a Rover - finally becoming an actual Venturer
Leader in 1992 in Dromana. I was the only Venturer Leader to actually be
INVESTED as one, rather than coming up from Cubs or Scouts. Sadly I wasn't
allowed to continue on in my roll after the unit was disbanded and rolled
into Double RR Venturers in Rosebud - they had enough female leaders and
well... it wasn't actively encouraged by the husband of the times... *grin*
too much competition from him I think!
I think to have a home with a sea view would be just wonderful, but all of
those are at a premium now. Is Northern Beaches a suburb in Sydney? (I
really don't know much of Sydney except that Holsworthy is near
Liverpool...)
Will you sell first and then rent until you find or buy first and then hope
to sell where you are now?
Best of luck
Tamara
Pauline
Northern Beaches is a region, not a suburb, from Manly to Palm Beach (Home
and Away).
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Allan Pengelly
Some things never change, and quite frankly if you did not chat about
everything and everything this group would probably not have survived but
have gone the same way of many others that no longer exist on Usenet. So
anyway, to continue on that theme and bring everyone up to date..my home
town is actually Newcastle. I was always hoping to retrire when I got to 60
but the company I work for introduced Voluntary Early Retirement so
naturally I stayed and applied, but was refused because of my value to them,
then two years down the track I was been given the option of continuing by
learning a new job which I was told would turn me into an invalid with a bad
back as the company wanted younger people trained in multi-tasking (by me in
the job I was doing) or declaring myself redundant. So I chose the latter
course and have become reduntant by stealth with the company not having to
pay me any sort of redunancy payout. Never mind, I have been sorting out my
own financial future for the last two years and am going to have a quite
comfortable life in future. My own dream was to buy a manufactured home
which did not require much maintenance in a Village somewhere like Port
Macquarie or Coffs Harbour, but after having holidays on those places I
found they did not have anything to offer that I did not have in Newcastle
so bought my place here over ten years ago which I now own and while I will
always have to pay a site fee it's quite modest and as others who have lived
through the dream you described is a nice way to live out those twilight
years (which I'm sure are a long way away for you).
Allan
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Tamara CallaLilly
Yep, a good 25 years away before retirement age for both of us. It's going
to be so nice paying money on OUR OWN home, rather than someone's
investment.
My inlaws have a great caravan which they take on regular trips all over
Australia. This Friday they leave for Darwin to then catch the Ghan home -
they aren't taking the caravan this time, instead taking a tent because they
can put the 4WD on the train on the return trip. It's a lovely 60th b'day
present to each other.
I've only owned a caravan which was used as my cubby house as a kid *lol* It
certainly didn't travel anywhere!
I've known quite a few people who have relocatables in caravan parks down in
Ocean Grove where I grew up and they lived in them year round, like you,
only paying site fees and the electricity they use at a vastly cheaper rate
than I pay! Of course, tenancy in places like this is not as cut and dried
as those in actual homes/flats. I'm glad you are able to live in comfort.
My father took a voluntary redundancy at age 50 (he's 64 now) and wishes he
hadn't. Like you, his payout was somehow manipulated to not be the same as
it would have been if he'd actually retired. Unlike you, he is a drunk and
therefore he wasted his money and now lives on the grace of the government.
Does your home move or is it fixed? Sounds just lovely. You'd have regular
neighbors and then lots of holiday makers as well. Life would certainly not
be dull!
Tamara
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Pauline
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Linda
were able to retire and still have a comfortable future. Polish up those
dancing shoes!!!
:)
Linda
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Eddie White
laid off. At least, that's how it works at the parent company in Sweden.
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Eddie
Pauline
this does not seem the case for Allan.
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PPPG
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> Read The Taking, avoid Life Expectancy!!!!!!
Clare is one of the few that LIKED the Taking .... 95% of us didn't. If you
insist of trying this book, I'd advise going to the airport and seeing if
you can have some air sickness bags to have handy. (Oh and go to the
bathroom first!)
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TTFN
Scott
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Deaf Does Not Equate Daft ... In OTHER peoples cases!
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"I'm old enough to know that a longer life isn't always a better one. In the
end, you just get tired.Tired of the struggle. Tired of losing everyone that
matters to you. Tired of watching everything turn to dust. If you live long
enough... the only certainty left is that you'll end up alone."
- Doctor Who
PPPG
Well, congratulations on you retirement. I hope it all goes well for you.
> and introduce a rare on-topic thread here.
"On Topic"? It rings bells, but I'm not sure what that means on here. ;-)
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TTFN
Scott
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"I'm old enough to know that a longer life isn't always a better one. In the
end, you just get tired.Tired of the struggle. Tired of losing everyone that
matters to you. Tired of watching everything turn to dust. If you live long
enough... the only certainty left is that you'll end up alone."
- Doctor Who
> G'day. All.
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Pauline
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Fred
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PPPG
> READ THE TAKING"?? We all should be "Taking" that book to the dump
The End of Days looms nigh ... Fred and I agree.
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Scott
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
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> Fred
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> --
> Life's Too Short, So Smile
> "Clare" <bo...@boop.da> wrote in message
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>> Read The Taking, avoid Life Expectancy!!!!!!
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>> "Linda" <ldl...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>> Congratulations on your retirement. My husband retired at the first of
>>> this year and we are having the best time ever!!! I would say avoid
>>> "The Taking" at all costs. The Husband is good and The Good Guy is even
>>> better....read lots and come back here and post lots. One of my most
>>> vivid memories of you (besides your ballroom dancing) is of you eating a
>>> chicken with your bare hands...somehow that's never escaped me. Welcome
>>> home Mr. President.
>>> :)
>>> Linda
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>>> "Allan Pengelly" <ape3...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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>>>> and introduce a rare on-topic thread here.
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Linda
:)
Linda
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Linda
:)
Linda
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FRED
Fred
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FRED
Fred
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Pauline
Pauline
I have joined Scott in being depressed. Mental illness sucks, no end no
matter how much work you do.
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Linda
:)
Linda
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FRED
Fred
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:)
Linda
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> "FRED" <rka...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> READ THE TAKING"?? We all should be "Taking" that book to the dump
>
> The End of Days looms nigh ... Fred and I agree.
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> --
> TTFN
> Scott
Maybe you are finally realising that Fred is quite clever ? ;) BEG
Tamara
Pete Wilcox
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Pauline wrote:
> I have joined Scott in being depressed. Mental illness sucks, no end no
> matter how much work you do.
>
There are some good meds now available that at least lessen the symptoms,
even if they don't effect a complete cure, so don't suffer needlessly -
get along to your GP and get a prescription.
{{{{{{{{{Pauline & Scott}}}}}}}}}
Cheers,
Pete.
Pauline
I do have all the 'right' medications, and have done lots and lots of
therapy over the last 10 or so years, but it always gets through sometimes.
The hugs help lots as does the support of my friends (here and elsewhere)
just listening.
I think I could write a book of my experiences, but everyones journey is
different, I can't write and compared to some people my life is pretty good.
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PPPG
> I don't think Fred knows the rules.
He knows them, but like red lights and gravity, he doesn't think they apply
to him!
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TTFN
Scott
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
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PPPG
> LOL!!! Might as well. The Treasurer is unpredictable.
.... after she's belted back a few! :-Ş
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Scott
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
> :)
PPPG
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>>> READ THE TAKING"?? We all should be "Taking" that book to the dump
>> The End of Days looms nigh ... Fred and I agree.
> Maybe you are finally realising that Fred is quite clever ? ;) BEG
ummmmmm ...... NO!
PPPG
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> There are some good meds now available that at least lessen the symptoms,
> even if they don't effect a complete cure, so don't suffer needlessly -
> get along to your GP and get a prescription.
I've tried all the drugs, they don't work for me (not just those ... my body
doesn't process drugs well. My body builds tolerances fast.). Doc says
therapy, but I can't afford that no can I get a regular ride.
But Pauline, I'm sorry you feel so down and out. I hope you feel better.
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Scott
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PPPG
> I do have all the 'right' medications, and have done lots and lots of
> therapy over the last 10 or so years, but it always gets through
> sometimes.
Unfortunately that's true about many things. Hang inn there, Pauline
> The hugs help lots as does the support of my friends (here and elsewhere)
> just listening.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Pauline}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
> I think I could write a book of my experiences, but everyones journey is
> different, I can't write and compared to some people my life is pretty
> good.
I'll say the same thing for me. But it still hurts some times.
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TTFN
Scott
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Pete Wilcox
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Pauline wrote:
> I do have all the 'right' medications, and have done lots and lots of therapy
> over the last 10 or so years, but it always gets through sometimes.
>
Yup, Anne got hit by post-natal depression after the birth of our second
child, and it just never went away. Does the meds, psychotherapy
sessions, etc., but some days nothing helps. Always worth bearing in
mind, though, that there *will* be better days, as well as worse ones.
> The hugs help lots as does the support of my friends (here and elsewhere)
> just listening.
>
Happy to be here for you. Nay, *privileged*.
> I think I could write a book of my experiences, but everyones journey is
> different, I can't write and compared to some people my life is pretty good.
>
I don't believe you when you say you can't write. Just look at your
contributions to this newsgroup. Each book is filled with chapters, each
chapter is filled with paragraphs, and each paragraph is filled with
words. It's just a matter off putting one word after another; one word at
a time. "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
"Everyone's journey is different" indeed, but what makes you assume that
yours is any less interesting than the next person's? WRITE THE BOOK!!!
And in terms of life-quality comparisons, I've read that if you have spare
change in your pocket, then you are among the top two percent of the
world's wealthiest people. Something worth thinking about.
Cheers,
Pete.
Pete Wilcox
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, PPPG wrote:
> I've tried all the drugs, they don't work for me (not just those ... my body
> doesn't process drugs well. My body builds tolerances fast.). Doc says
> therapy, but I can't afford that no can I get a regular ride.
>
Psychotherapy is known as the "talking cure," but amongst professionals it
is somewhat better known as the "listening cure." In the castle, we're
always here to listen.
Cheers,
Pete.
PPPG
> Always worth bearing in mind, though, that there *will* be better days, as
> well as worse ones.
Always. that's what keeps me going. I'm sorry to hear about Anne
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Scott
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PPPG
> Psychotherapy is known as the "talking cure," but amongst professionals it
> is somewhat better known as the "listening cure." In the castle, we're
> always here to listen.
I'm allowed to give people waking nightmares? ;-)
(Thanks)
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TTFN
Scott
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
>
> Cheers,
> Pete.
>
FRED
Fred
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Fred
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Fred
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Life's Too Short, So Smile
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FRED
Fred
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Life's Too Short, So Smile
"PPPG" <sjoh...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Jim Odell
> Not really.
>
> I have joined Scott in being depressed. Mental illness sucks, no end no
> matter how much work you do.
>
Can you get cheap SSRIs or something? Have you tried anything like that
already? It might work.
(this is as far as I can go as I am being drowned out by a cacophany of
lawyers. But they're all imaginary anyway so... hey... mmmrpphh....)
Ok, ok. Do not do this without seeking the advice of a professional,
etc. (Who the hell is this Etc person anyway?)
YMMV.
Seriously though, I've had experience with this. Don't let it get too
good a grip on you before finding some options.
Jim Odell
Jim Odell
with this after all.
Linda
:)
Linda
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Clare
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> Nope, redundant is a European (and apparently Australian) term for being
> laid off. At least, that's how it works at the parent company in Sweden.
> --
> Eddie
Clare
The Taking had some big flaws but was a good creepy read. LE was smulch.
Clare
people!
:) isn't that how it works?
"Pauline" <bar...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> You need a lesson in how gorats work.
>
> "FRED" <rka...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> She should be groated
>>
>> Fred
>>
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>> Life's Too Short, So Smile
>> "Linda" <ldl...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>> You must have a lot of time on your hands.
>>> :)
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> "Pauline" <bar...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>>>> I'm going to try and read it again.
>>>>
Clare
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Clare
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Pauline
He must have D M S.
"Clare" <bo...@boop.da> wrote in message
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Pauline
"Clare" <bo...@boop.da> wrote in message
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Pauline
Thanks for the support.
At least I have stuff in common with Owen Wilson and he's cute.
"Piper" <piperett...@hughes.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:14:12 +1000, "Pauline" <bar...@iprimus.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Pete
>>
>>I do have all the 'right' medications, and have done lots and lots of
>>therapy over the last 10 or so years, but it always gets through
>>sometimes.
>
> I guess no medication is perfect
>
>>The hugs help lots as does the support of my friends (here and elsewhere)
>>just listening.
>
> Well, then! ((((Pauline))))
>
>>I think I could write a book of my experiences, but everyones journey is
>>different, I can't write and compared to some people my life is pretty
>>good.
>
> Yes, your life seems pretty good. I guess that's the one thing that's
> #1 in therapy, though I don't know first hand, but keeping utmost in
> your mind what a good life you have and how much worse it could be
> would be hard to do when depression hits. I've had drug induced
> depression from tyiglyceride medications so that's the extent of my
> experience. It actually made me suicidal until I figured it out.
> Anyway, this is about you, not me, and I'm happy to have you here and
> hope your depressions are few and far between.
> -
> Piper
Pauline
I don't say this to make you feel worse, you should be very proud of your
strengths. They are obvious to all of us here.
Therapy is now out for this session.
Lets all have a chockie together.
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Pauline
I agree that I'm in the top 2%.
It is easy to forget sometimes.
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Pauline
"Clare" <bo...@boop.da> wrote in message
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Pauline
you lived here there is.
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> "Pete Wilcox" <p...@st-andrews.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
>> There are some good meds now available that at least lessen the symptoms,
>> even if they don't effect a complete cure, so don't suffer needlessly -
>> get along to your GP and get a prescription.
>
> I've tried all the drugs, they don't work for me (not just those ... my
> body doesn't process drugs well. My body builds tolerances fast.). Doc
> says therapy, but I can't afford that no can I get a regular ride.
>
> But Pauline, I'm sorry you feel so down and out. I hope you feel better.
Pauline
What is YMMV?
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Pauline
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Pauline
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FRED
last
2 weeks. Now she has new containers for new types of foods.
Fred
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FRED
than just staying out of your way
Fred
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FRED
doesn't help
Fred
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PPPG
>> Nope, redundant is a European (and apparently Australian) term for being
>> laid off. At least, that's how it works at the parent company in Sweden.
> hubby got made redundant last month
I'm sorry to hear that, Clare. I hope he finds something soon
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TTFN
Scott
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Deaf Does Not Equate Daft ... In OTHER peoples cases!
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
>> Eddie
>
>
PPPG
> I may have to steal your wheelchair
Go ahead. the thing is falling apart from the small confines of this condo
and insurance would pay for a new one.
PPPG
> The Taking had some big flaws but was a good creepy read. LE was smulch.
I'm the opposite, liked LE hated Taking
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TTFN
Scott
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Deaf Does Not Equate Daft ... In OTHER peoples cases!
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PPPG
> Sounds like there are 2 sets of rules
The rules are as malleable with Linda's whims/
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Scott
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Deaf Does Not Equate Daft ... In OTHER peoples cases!
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
>
> Fred
>
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> Life's Too Short, So Smile
> "Pauline" <bar...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>> Thank,, I don't think Fred knows the rules.
>>
>> "Linda" <ldl...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>> No can do.
>>> :)
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> "FRED" <rka...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>>> She should be groated
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
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>>>> Life's Too Short, So Smile
>>>> "Linda" <ldl...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> You must have a lot of time on your hands.
>>>>> :)
>>>>> Linda
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pauline" <bar...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>>>>>> I'm going to try and read it again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PPPG" <sjoh...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> "Clare" <bo...@boop.da> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read The Taking, avoid Life Expectancy!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clare is one of the few that LIKED the Taking .... 95% of us didn't.
>>>>>>> If you insist of trying this book, I'd advise going to the airport
>>>>>>> and seeing if you can have some air sickness bags to have handy.
>>>>>>> (Oh and go to the bathroom first!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> TTFN
>>>>>>> Scott
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>>>>>>> Deaf Does Not Equate Daft ... In OTHER peoples cases!
>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------
PPPG
>P M S???
Why Fred ... you are looking sharp today ... death really becomes you!
PPPG
> Are there not services that can take you, and free therapy available. If
> you lived here there is.
In Florida, only if you make less than a certain amount yearly ($10,400).
I've applied 3 times and was turned down. I make $350 ($10,750) more than
the that.
PPPG
>I hear you, in a lot of ways, your life sucks alot more than mine.
And mine allot less than others ... there's always someone worse. That
thought is what a) keeps me grounded and b) makes me feel like $#!+ for even
wishing for something better. I mean I can't hold a candle to millions in
Darfur, Those dying and children orphaned in Africa for example
> I don't say this to make you feel worse, you should be very proud of your
> strengths. They are obvious to all of us here.
Proud of my strength .... <sniff-sniff> .... I can't smell it. Is my BO
*that* bad ... ? <insert Fred comment here> 8-D
> Therapy is now out for this session.
Uh Oh, here comes yet another bill! ;-)
(Tnx)
PPPG
> Joan's been to a Tupperware Party and then to a Pampered Chef Party in
> the last 2 weeks. Now she has new containers for new
> types of foods.
They make diapers for chefs now? What's next? Nutty Astronauts?
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TTFN
Scott
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Deaf Does Not Equate Daft ... In OTHER peoples cases!
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
>
PPPG
> That's because us males don't know how to deal with your PMS. Other
> than just staying out of your way
Ever wonder why the gay male population seems to be increasing????
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Scott
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Heck is where people go when they don't believe in gosh.
>
PPPG
> But he's got a ton of money to help him get though his problem even if it
> doesn't help
Money doesn't buy happiness, but it sure as h3ll goes a long way!
FRED
life. I
only hope that either therapy or Medication or family and friends love and
support
shows them the light at the end of the tunnel.
I've never been really depressed by life. I've had low moments and been down
or
frustrated by life by never to the point where I needed therapy or
medication. So I
find it irritating that I can't solve or truly help people in depressed
states. Sometimes
I worry that I'm only aggravating their situation by making them more aware
of their
problems. It's such a personal thing to discuss.
My biggest thing is getting old and dealing with it's aches and pains.
Waking up in the
morning is a big plus
So if HUGS help you , here's a ton of them on your way. (Plus of few
prayers)
Fred
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FRED
Fred
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FRED
Fred
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