and dont get me started on Legend!!! Druss the Axeman!!! What a great
hero, i always invisage Scott Glenn playing that role.
what do u reckon?
Sab.
Ah, once again the ol' "casting suggestions" thread, so beloved of any writer's
newsgroup (Gemmell, Eddings, Feist...) resurfaces. God bless 'em.
First of all, throwing in my tuppence, the only films that any film company
should consider are:
1) Legend
2) Wolf In Shadow
3) Waylander
IMNSHO, the "big three" ;)
Not necessarily in that order, though I wanna see Wolf In Shadow made, if only
to see a western (essentially) with the Titanic...
As to Scott Glenn? He'd need to work some to get Druss' physique ;)
Now, Glenn as Waylander I could envisage...
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" i remember reading a chapter while sitting in a woodcabin
>during a thunder storm,"
What were you doing in a log cabin in the middle of a thunderstorm?
Just wondering....
Rob :&)
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> Yeah Glenn would be good as Waylander,
> But only Sean Connery could play Druss!
>
> --
Oh yeah???!!! And what about Clint?! :)
Eastwood is Druss!
In 'Legend', he's such an "unforgiven" character.
I say we need some good ol' westerns actors.
It's always 'the magnificient one/two/three/four/five/six/seven (ad. lib.)'
revisited, don't you think?
;)
Alain
I have always pictured Druss like Brian Blessed from Blackadder. But I think he has died
now. I think Druss should be played by some one with a bit of size to them but is about 50
or a little past it.
But if De Niro was taller he would make a great Druss. Maybe even Bruce Willis, or
Christopher Walken.
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I always thought Clint would make a good Jon Shannow. Mind you that could be
the large number of western movies he's done.
Mike
Nope AFAIK he is still shouting happily at people.
Oh yes, He was in the Musical comedy version of Dickens' Hard times
in the Royal Theatre (I think) in Windsor a couple of months back.
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>Yeah Glenn would be good as Waylander,
Who?? 'Glenn', I mean, not Waylander <g>
>But only Sean Connery could play Druss!
I've seen this suggestion so many times, yet I still have a
problem imagining SC as Druss....
Just to add my 2p, just recently, I've been thinking that the
bloke who played Little John in that bloody awful Costner, Robin
Hood film, would make a good Druss. Sorry, don't know his name :)
(Watch it be this Glenn person now..... d'oh!)
Ali :D
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>On Mon, 03 Jul 2000 14:16:12 GMT, "Silverblade"
><steven....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Yeah Glenn would be good as Waylander,
>
>Who?? 'Glenn', I mean, not Waylander <g>
>
>>But only Sean Connery could play Druss!
>
>I've seen this suggestion so many times, yet I still have a
>problem imagining SC as Druss....
The problem might be that Druss is HUGE. He's a mountain of a man,
barrel-chested etc. Sean Connery doesn't have the physique, and he never will
unless he works out for five years and starts eating anabolic steroids like
smarties. And we all know that's not good... ;)
I can't think of ANY actor with the necessary physique to play Druss, apart from
Arnie. And let's face it, even Arn would
a) Need to bulk up a bit more
and
b) Learn how to act ;)
As for SHANNOW, I'd go for Clint Eastwood or Rutger Hauer (sp?)
No clue about Waylander, mind. Now, my question would be (and brace yourselves
here) if a film of LEGEND *were* ever made - provided that DG had control of the
screenplay (and I'd gladly poke out both my eyes to see *that*... er....) who
would play:
1) REK
2) Mrs. REK (damn, I can't remember her name and my book is at work.) Virae?
3) The thirty (how 'bout THAT for a challenge then ;) )
4) Ulrik
Why the heck does Hollywood ignore LEGEND and give us historical tosh like
Braveheart? The world is a cruel, cruel place :(
>no way he's not scruffy enough nor big enough
Scruffy? Could you elaborate on that, please, I don't take your meaning.
After jjust finishing the Jon Shannow books i can see where Clint
would fit in quite nicely, he's abit old now but if anyone has seen
Pale Rider they might agree with me, in fact thinking about Pale Rider
is uncannily close to Shannow in that he is a man of the cloth... mmm
coincedence????????
What about some of the bad guys? who could portray evil and depravity
with ease????
ANyway i'll shut up now!!!
ROb
This is a little late but erm WHO IS SCOTT GLENN??????
Sorry, my sutpidity astounds me!
Rob
>Why the heck does Hollywood ignore LEGEND
It doesn't - but nor does it offer the right contract for David to
accept.
Tony Evans
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>
>Druss would be a really hard character to cast, I agree with Ali, it
>needs to be somebody quite big around the waste, whenever i think of
I'm confused again. Why big around the waste<sic>? I'd think you'd be looking
for somebody who's damn big around the shoulders and chest, not the waist. Brian
Blessed's certainly got the presence (and the waistline is certainly a plus,
given your criteria) but he's not got the shoulders for it. IMHO.
>After jjust finishing the Jon Shannow books i can see where Clint
>would fit in quite nicely, he's abit old now but if anyone has seen
>Pale Rider they might agree with me, in fact thinking about Pale Rider
>is uncannily close to Shannow in that he is a man of the cloth... mmm
>coincedence????????
Um... Jon Shannow isn't a man of the cloth. Well, not to begin with, anyway.
>
>>
He's quite a good actor. I'm not entirely certain how anyone can envisage him as
Druss, mind. Last I saw him, he was thin as a rake. "Barrel-chested" and Scott
Glenn are two mutually exclusive descriptions.... ;)
>In alt.books.david-gemmell, Martin Goodson <mar...@kaemaril.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Why the heck does Hollywood ignore LEGEND
>
>It doesn't - but nor does it offer the right contract for David to
>accept.
>
>
>Tony Evans
Hmmm... I felt sure that I'd read somewhere that somebody had bought the rights
to LEGEND.
Damn. If only Hollywood would do the right thing... and just give David
a) A contract giving him total creative control and
b) A blank cheque
Then we'd see some good movies ;)
Heck, if Aardman can team up with Dreamworks for a five picture deal, *anything*
is possible. Now... what influential producer can we bombard with pleading
e-mail...? How 'bout Spielberg? :)
I dont understand the sean Connery being Druss as he is smaller than I
imagine Druss, but he is barrel chested.
So who is this Scott Glenn??
Joe
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> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 21:43:41 GMT, Rob Dyble grabbed a leaky fountain pen
and
> some paper before carefully scribbling the following message (original
doodles
> of alt.books.david-gemmell omitted):
>
> >
> >>
> >>and dont get me started on Legend!!! Druss the Axeman!!! What a great
> >>hero, i always invisage Scott Glenn playing that role.
> >
> >This is a little late but erm WHO IS SCOTT GLENN??????
> >
> >Sorry, my sutpidity astounds me!
> >
> >Rob
>
> He's quite a good actor. I'm not entirely certain how anyone can envisage
him as
> Druss, mind. Last I saw him, he was thin as a rake. "Barrel-chested" and
Scott
> Glenn are two mutually exclusive descriptions.... ;)
>Hmmm... I felt sure that I'd read somewhere that somebody had bought the rights
>to LEGEND.
Not true - David won't sell the rights to any of his stuff - that's
the actual problem. (If you think it's a problem).
>Damn. If only Hollywood would do the right thing... and just give David
>
>a) A contract giving him total creative control and
>b) A blank cheque
>
>Then we'd see some good movies ;)
I think a) would be enough to be honest. But yes, I agree. However,
I still think David's work is reasonably niche.
Tony Evans
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>In alt.books.david-gemmell, Martin Goodson <mar...@kaemaril.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Hmmm... I felt sure that I'd read somewhere that somebody had bought the rights
>>to LEGEND.
>
>Not true - David won't sell the rights to any of his stuff - that's
>the actual problem. (If you think it's a problem).
>
>>Damn. If only Hollywood would do the right thing... and just give David
>>
>>a) A contract giving him total creative control and
>>b) A blank cheque
>>
>>Then we'd see some good movies ;)
>
>I think a) would be enough to be honest. But yes, I agree. However,
>I still think David's work is reasonably niche.
Maybe so, but if a couple of years ago somebody had outlined the plot behind
Braveheart, I dare say many of the people who flocked to see it would have
described it as "niche" and not bothered (rightly so in that case ;) )
LEGEND would really "get over" (to use a pro-wrestling term) as a big scale
blockbuster epic battlestory (I've not seen a really good battle scene since EL
CID, for example.... and I really cried at the end of that one when ol' Cid rode
off strapped to his white horse, so I daresay Druss' funeral would get a similar
reaction) and the pseudo-historical would tie in nicely with the epic format of
Gladiator, say. Then tie that in with the scifi/fantasy mini-revival of Lord Of
The Rings, the Dungeons & Dragons movie, X-men, etc and I'd say you'd be
surprised how many people *would* go and see it.
It doesn't hurt it that it's got a fantastic amount of stuff going for it other
than the battle scenes, either. Honestly, Spielberg's mad for not picking it up.
IMHO.
>So who is this Scott Glenn??
>
>Joe
Hopefully this should trigger a memory or two... ;)
(Courtesy of the Internet Movie Database (www.imdb.com). Go look at it, it's
good)
Date of birth (location): 26 January 1942, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
Filmography
Vertical Limit, The (2000)
Last Marshal, The (1999) .... Cole
Virgin Suicides, The (1999) .... Father Moody
"Mobile Suit Gundam" (1999) TV Series .... Captain Henry "Red" Stanley
Larga distancia (1998) .... Senor Grem
Naked City: Justice with a Bullet (1998) (TV) .... Sergeant Daniel Muldoon
Naked City: A Killer Christmas (1998) (TV) .... Sergeant Daniel Muldoon
Firestorm (1998) .... Wynt Perkins
Lesser Prophets (1997) .... Iggy
Absolute Power (1997) .... Bill Burton
Edie & Pen (1996) .... Harry Hawkins
Carla's Song (1996) .... Bradley
... aka Canción de Carla, La (1996) (Spain: dubbed version)
Courage Under Fire (1996) .... Tony Gartner
Reckless (1995/I) .... Lloyd
Tall Tale (1995) .... J.P. Stiles
... aka Tall Tale: The Unbelievable Adventures of Pecos Bill (1995)
Flight of the Dove, The (1994) .... William B. Rickman
... aka Spy Within, The (1994)
Night of the Running Man (1994) .... David Eckhart
Slaughter of the Innocents (1994) .... Stephen Broderick
Past Tense (1994) (TV) .... Gene Ralston
Extreme Justice (1993) .... Dan Vaughn
... aka S.I.S. - Extreme Justice (1993)
Shadowhunter (1993) (TV) .... Cain, John
Player, The (1992) .... Himself
My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys (1991) .... H.D.
Women & Men 2: In Love There Are No Rules (1991) (TV) .... Henry
... aka Women & Men 2 (1991) (TV)
Backdraft (1991) .... John Adcox
Silence of the Lambs, The (1991) .... Jack Crawford
Hunt for Red October, The (1990) .... Commander Bart Mancuso
Miss Firecracker (1989) .... Mac Sam
Outside Woman, The (1989) (TV) .... Jesse Smith
Off Limits (1988) .... Colonel Armstrong
Intrigue (1988) (TV) .... Crawford
Verne Miller Story, The (1987) .... Verne Miller
... aka Gangland (1987) (USA: video title)
... aka Verne Miller (1987) (USA: short title)
Man on Fire (1987) .... Creasy
... aka Absinthe (1987)
... aka Uomo sotto tiro, Un (1987) (Italy)
As Summers Die (1986) (TV) .... Willie Croft
Silverado (1985) .... Emmett
Wild Geese II (1985) .... John Haddad
Countdown to Looking Glass (1984) (TV) .... Michael Boyle
River, The (1984) .... Joe Wade
Right Stuff, The (1983) .... Alan Shepard
Keep, The (1983) .... Glaeken Trismegestus
Challenge, The (1982) .... Rick
... aka Equals (1982)
... aka Sword of the Ninja (1982)
Personal Best (1982) .... Terry Tingloff
Cattle Annie and Little Britches (1981) .... Bill Dalton
Urban Cowboy (1980) .... Wes
More American Graffiti (1979) .... Newt
... aka Purple Haze (1979)
Apocalypse Now (1979) .... Colby
She Came to the Valley (1977) .... Bill Lester
... aka Texas in Flames (1977)
Fighting Mad (1976) .... Charlie Hunter
Nashville (1975) .... Private First Class Glenn Kelly
Hex (1973) .... Jimbang
... aka Shrieking, The (1973)
Gargoyles (1972) (TV) .... James Reeger
Angels Hard as They Come (1971) .... Long John
... aka Angels (1971)
... aka Angels as Hard as They Come (1971) (UK)
... aka Angels, Hell on Harleys (1971)
Baby Maker, The (1970) .... Tad Jacks
"Edge of Night, The" (1956) TV Series .... Calvin Brenner (1969)
... aka "Edge of Night" (1983) (USA: last season title)
Notable TV guest appearances
"Ironside" (1967) playing "Lenox" in episode: "Another Shell Game" 1973
"Young Lawyers, The" (1970) in episode: "Outspoken Silence, The" (episode #
1.17) 2/3/1971
Trivia:
Rode along with the Chicago Fire Dept.'s Squad 5 in preperation for his role in
Backdraft.
Steven Seagal has gotten pretty pudgy he could porbably play a passable Aged Druss, I
think h has the height for it, Or they could do the old hollywood trick and cast everyone
else short.
| As for SHANNOW, I'd go for Clint Eastwood or Rutger Hauer (sp?)
Rutger Hauer has gotten too pudgy, but on that note, he too could possibly fill out the
Role of Druss.
| No clue about Waylander, mind. Now, my question would be (and brace yourselves
| here) if a film of LEGEND *were* ever made - provided that DG had control of the
| screenplay (and I'd gladly poke out both my eyes to see *that*... er....) who
| would play:
|
| 1) REK
Cary Elwes, or even better, Bruce Campbell.
| 2) Mrs. REK (damn, I can't remember her name and my book is at work.) Virae?
Famke Janssen
| 3) The thirty (how 'bout THAT for a challenge then ;) )
too tough, but most could be unknowns.
| 4) Ulrik
he would have to be an aisan Guy, But I can't remember if He was a big man or just A great
leader, but he was not as old as Druss was he? So how about Cary-Hirioki Tagawa..
|
| Why the heck does Hollywood ignore LEGEND and give us historical tosh like
| Braveheart? The world is a cruel, cruel place :(
Because they would rather make crap like the upcoming D&D movie.
Thanks Joe
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>Aaaaghhhh it all becomes clear.
>
>Thanks Joe
>
Joe?
>Now, my question would be (and brace yourselves
>here) if a film of LEGEND *were* ever made - provided that DG had control of the
>screenplay (and I'd gladly poke out both my eyes to see *that*... er....) who
>would play:
>
>1) REK
Ewan McGregor (talented, looks right and would guarantee ticket
sales ;) , well, it would guarantee me buying a ticket <g>)
>2) Mrs. REK (damn, I can't remember her name and my book is at work.) Virae?
No idea :) I always picture her as a younger Geena Davis, (tall,
not skinny, heavy brow, deep set eyes.... YMMV, etc) but I can't
think of anyone in the right age group that would work.
>3) The thirty (how 'bout THAT for a challenge then ;) )
The challenge is finding more than 5 of them that are
named/described :)
I'd have to go with Jonathon's suggestion of a cast of unknowns
apart from Sean Connery as Vintar.
(If you're bored and have got a couple of hours to spare, try
casting Serbitar - it stumped me <g>)
>4) Ulrik
Stumped again.
On the subject of Druss - has anyone suggested Dolph Lundgren
yet? He's got the size (pity about the lack of talent)
Ali :D
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> On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:10:39 GMT, Alison Torkington grabbed a leaky
fountain pen
> and some paper before carefully scribbling the following message (original
> doodles of alt.books.david-gemmell omitted):
>
> >On Mon, 03 Jul 2000 14:16:12 GMT, "Silverblade"
> ><steven....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>Yeah Glenn would be good as Waylander,
> >
> >Who?? 'Glenn', I mean, not Waylander <g>
> >
> >>But only Sean Connery could play Druss!
> >
> >I've seen this suggestion so many times, yet I still have a
> >problem imagining SC as Druss....
>
> The problem might be that Druss is HUGE. He's a mountain of a man,
> barrel-chested etc. Sean Connery doesn't have the physique, and he never
will
> unless he works out for five years and starts eating anabolic steroids
like
> smarties. And we all know that's not good... ;)
>
> I can't think of ANY actor with the necessary physique to play Druss,
apart from
> Arnie. And let's face it, even Arn would
>
> a) Need to bulk up a bit more
>
> and
>
> b) Learn how to act ;)
What we want is an actor who is over 50 and is huge - not necessarily fit,
but giving the impression of being huge and muscled.
Brian Blessed may fit the bill, there may be other actors who can. But how
many of them have enough experience to star?
Its funny how people seemt to think of Blackadder whenever Brian is
mentioned. I prefer to think of him in Flash Gordon, or Blake's 7 or more
recently in Star Wars episode 1.
Martin <><
>
>
> As for SHANNOW, I'd go for Clint Eastwood or Rutger Hauer (sp?)
>
> No clue about Waylander, mind. Now, my question would be (and brace
yourselves
> here) if a film of LEGEND *were* ever made - provided that DG had control
of the
> screenplay (and I'd gladly poke out both my eyes to see *that*... er....)
who
> would play:
>
> 1) REK
> 2) Mrs. REK (damn, I can't remember her name and my book is at work.)
Virae?
> 3) The thirty (how 'bout THAT for a challenge then ;) )
> 4) Ulrik
>
> Why the heck does Hollywood ignore LEGEND and give us historical tosh like
> Braveheart? The world is a cruel, cruel place :(
>
>
Alison Torkington <Aliso...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:22:38 +0100, Martin Goodson
> <mar...@kaemaril.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Now, my question would be (and brace yourselves
> >here) if a film of LEGEND *were* ever made - provided that DG had control
of the
> >screenplay (and I'd gladly poke out both my eyes to see *that*... er....)
who
> >would play:
Hollywood sometimes takes a good book and changes it too much in screenplay.
Try The Puppet Masters, and also Starship Troopers. Both good books by
Robert Heinlein and both changed massively by holywood.
Its rare for an author to get involved with screenplay. The people that
write them don't have to cater to the author, but do have to cater to the
sponsors.
Martin <><
> >
> >1) REK
>
> Ewan McGregor (talented, looks right and would guarantee ticket
> sales ;) , well, it would guarantee me buying a ticket <g>)
>
> >2) Mrs. REK (damn, I can't remember her name and my book is at work.)
Virae?
>
> No idea :) I always picture her as a younger Geena Davis, (tall,
> not skinny, heavy brow, deep set eyes.... YMMV, etc) but I can't
> think of anyone in the right age group that would work.
>
> >3) The thirty (how 'bout THAT for a challenge then ;) )
>