Lewis and Dickens
Awake97105
Not reading any Lewis at the moment -- will hunt up my copy of "A Christmas
Carol" by Charles Dickens ...
IMO nothing compares with Dickens' gritty realism in a number of his books and
the way that man mistreats and exploits his fellow man.
There's a bit of an "Ivory Tower" to which one retreats in Lewis' works. (Did
his wife really point that out to him as the film Shadowlands seems to
suggest?)
But comparisons are "odious". someone once said. Sometimes I don't want to
look at the "real world" when I read a book ...
Merry Christmas to all!
Awake and Waiting for Snow
{Therefore ...]
Barry
Bill Swinson
Awake97105 wrote in message
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>
>Not reading any Lewis at the moment -- will hunt up my copy of "A Christmas
>Carol" by Charles Dickens ...
>
>IMO nothing compares with Dickens' gritty realism in a number of his books
and
>the way that man mistreats and exploits his fellow man.
>
Never have liked Dickens myself. When I read "A Christmas Carol" last year I
found there to be way too much description. I mean he would spend 5 pages to
tell you above the expression of a street vendor. Someone suggested "Great
Expectations" to me yesterday, but I am sticking to Lewis. I certainly don't
see Dickens in the near future. Incidentally, if any of you are looking for
a fantastic Christmas book maybe to read to your children look no further
than "The Life And Adventures of Santa Claus" by L. Frank Baum. It can be
obtained through www.amazon.com It is fantastic. This was before it was
written in stone that Santa lives at the North Pole. It describes how he
grew up in The Forest of Burzee and lived in The Laughing Valley. It also
talks the reindeer, the tree, and answers questions such as "Why do you hang
your stocking by the chimney at night" So as Max Apple points out
"Have some fun, even in the middle of winter. A toy delivered by a
stranger in the middle of the night may almost be enough to convince you
that the invisible world, every once in a while, is on your side."
May Aslan Be With You
Your affectionate Lewis Maniac,
Will Swinson
Daryl Gene
>Someone suggested "Great
>Expectations" to me yesterday, but I am sticking to Lewis.
I really hope you change your mind someday. This was my favorite story as a
boy (I admit the James Mason movie had something to do with that). I read it
to my daughter when she was nine. It has mystery, suspense, humor and a lot of
qualities that make it enjoyable.
>Incidentally, if any of you are looking for
>a fantastic Christmas book maybe to read to your children look no further
>than "The Life And Adventures of Santa Claus" by L. Frank Baum.
Glad to see Baum's name mentioned as much as possible. You may not know that
American librarians have, for long periods of time, ignored him in favor of the
"classic" British children's authors.
Daryl
And we know that all things work
together for good to then that love God, to them that are called according to
his purpose
Alan Kreutzer
>There's a bit of an "Ivory Tower" to which one retreats in Lewis' works.
How about "That Hideous Strength"? Seems he had a pretty clear idea of how
dirty politics is done. And how to terrorize a nation and make people think
they like it. (Of course, he had the good people win in the end, and
maybe that's ivory tower. But one can hope.)
Dan Drake
>...
>
> Glad to see Baum's name mentioned as much as possible. You may not know that
> American librarians have, for long periods of time, ignored him in favor of the
> "classic" British children's authors.
I think they complained about a shortage of literary and moral values in
Oz. (Egregious nonsense, of course.) Hey that should make it a real
highly-recommended by now. :=(
A merry Christmas thought on approaching old-fart-hood: What have I
against the old fogeys who loused things up and the Gen-X and still
younger ones with such lousy values? Much of the world, including two
major branches of the U. S. Government, is in the hands of people of
pretty much my own generation; and it s-cks.
Cheers,
--
Dan Drake
d...@dandrake.com
http://www.dandrake.com/index.html
God or somebody save us from any society founded on Darwinian principles.
--Richard Dawkins
AJA
>
>A merry Christmas thought on approaching old-fart-hood: What have I
>against the old fogeys who loused things up and the Gen-X and still
>younger ones with such lousy values? Much of the world, including two
>major branches of the U. S. Government, is in the hands of people of
>pretty much my own generation; and it s-cks.
>
>Cheers,
Oh no...the enemy is _us_? Lewis says that's the trouble with X is
that X is just another me. Spoils all the fun of talking about X's
faults. What will we talk about at coffee? Small comfort, but perhaps
no generation has a corner on lousing things up. That's the hell of
it. If one could just pin the trouble on this or that person, or age.
Well. Celebrating the solstice today and the birth of a little child
who is love and who loves us- Absolutely amazing.
Anyway, Merry Christmas and "God bless us every one!"
All the best,
Ann
Daryl Gene
>Anyway, Merry Christmas and "God bless us every one!"
Just watched the old film of "Christmas Carol" with my eight year old
grandson. These are the sort of experiences that I hope will come to shape his
view of the world and of his fellow men. I was sorry it was "colorized" but he
might not have watched it if it were not.
I hope the gift given to us all at Christmas brings each one of you joy and
lasting peace and I hope the year lessens the want and ignorance Dickens so
hated. I also hope CSL is looking down and smiling about the moments we are
sharing in his name. I join with Ann "God bless us every one"
Bill Swinson
Daryl Gene wrote in message <19981222031602...@ng106.aol.com>...
>>ahne...@microdsi.net (AJA)wrote:
>
>>Anyway, Merry Christmas and "God bless us every one!"
>
> Just watched the old film of "Christmas Carol" with my eight year old
>grandson. These are the sort of experiences that I hope will come to shape
his
>view of the world and of his fellow men. I was sorry it was "colorized"
but he
>might not have watched it if it were not.
>
> I hope the gift given to us all at Christmas brings each one of you joy
and
>lasting peace and I hope the year lessens the want and ignorance Dickens so
>hated. I also hope CSL is looking down and smiling about the moments we are
>sharing in his name. I join with Ann "God bless us every one"
I've always loved "The Muppet Christmas Carrol" Gonzo makes a great Dickens.
I wonder what Lewis would have thought of the Muppets.
John Mark Ockerbloom
Bill Swinson <swi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Never have liked Dickens myself. When I read "A Christmas Carol" last year I
>found there to be way too much description. I mean he would spend 5 pages to
>tell you above the expression of a street vendor.
If you want something snappier, you might want to try his
"Reading Version", a condensed version Dickens wrote for his public
readings of the book. It's designed for a listening audience,
so it doesn't let them nod off.
> Incidentally, if any of you are looking for
>a fantastic Christmas book maybe to read to your children look no further
>than "The Life And Adventures of Santa Claus" by L. Frank Baum.
Baum's book, and the "reading version" of a Christmas Carol, can also both
be read on-line free of charge. See my On-Line Books Page for pointers.
Happy Christmas to all!
John Mark Ockerbloom
Editor, The On-Line Books Page
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/books.html
davis...@mediaone.net
Dave
Bill Swinson
John Mark Ockerbloom wrote in message
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>In article <aTMe2.499$jw2.9...@news4.atl>,
>Bill Swinson <swi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>Never have liked Dickens myself. When I read "A Christmas Carol" last year
I
>>found there to be way too much description. I mean he would spend 5 pages
to
>>tell you above the expression of a street vendor.
>
>If you want something snappier, you might want to try his
>"Reading Version", a condensed version Dickens wrote for his public
>readings of the book. It's designed for a listening audience,
>so it doesn't let them nod off.
>
>> Incidentally, if any of you are looking for
>>a fantastic Christmas book maybe to read to your children look no further
>>than "The Life And Adventures of Santa Claus" by L. Frank Baum.
>
>Baum's book, and the "reading version" of a Christmas Carol, can also both
>be read on-line free of charge. See my On-Line Books Page for pointers.
>
so underhanded :( . How do the bookstores allow it??? And what about
copyright laws. Well at least there are no Lewis books.
C Barrans
>
> John Mark Ockerbloom wrote in message
> <75p9mr$hs7$1...@mistletoe.srv.cs.cmu.edu>...
<snips>
> >Baum's book, and the "reading version" of a Christmas Carol, can also both
> >be read on-line free of charge. See my On-Line Books Page for pointers.
And here's the sort of thing that happens if you use
babelfish.altavista.digital.com to translate Dickens passages from, say,
English to French and back again:
Scrooge closed Window, and examined the gate by which the backup computer
had entered. It double-was locked, because it had locked it with its own
hands, and the bolts were calm. It tried to say ``Humbug! ' ' but stopped
with the first syllable. And being, of of emotion it had undergone, or is
tired the day, or its outline the invisible world, or the conversation
subdues the backup computer, or the delay of the hour, much requiring the
rest; directly went to insert, without stripping itself, and fell in
sleep over the moment.
--CB
who doesn't see anything wrong with being easily amused
> >I just checked out your page. Books read on line free of charge. It seems
> so underhanded :( . How do the bookstores allow it??? And what about
> copyright laws. Well at least there are no Lewis books.
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