Re: Fred Hall ''Bukowski's shock poetry''
Will Dockery
> George Dance posted
> >On Feb 25, 10:26 am, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Fred Hall wrote:
>
> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/msg/aa523b0420cea54d?dm...
>
> >> > > > > >>> i knew it was wrong
> >> > > > > >>> i'm not really a good babysitter
> >> > > > > >>> i felt myself getting hard
> >> > > > > >>> as she sat in my lap
> >> > > > > >>> and then she kissed me
> >> > > > > >>> i told her no
> >> > > > > >>> she kept kissing me
> >> > > > > >>> soon the passion
> >> > > > > >>> was too much
> >> > > > > >>> i grabbed her
> >> > > > > >>> and slammed my swollen cock
> >> > > > > >>> into her virgin pussy
> >> > > > > >>> and exploded as she screamed
> >> > > > > >>> hours of screams
> >> > > > > >>> then...
> >> > > > > >>> her parents came home
> >> > > > > >>> asked if she did her homework
> >> > > > > >>> and if she behaved
> >> > > > > >>> she looked at me
> >> > > > > >>> and wet her lips with her tongue
> >> > > > > >>> i said yes
> >> > > > > >>> she was a perfect angel
>
> >> This is obviously a ''shock poem'' in the style that Bukowski became
> >> rich writing.
>
> knew anything about Bukowski,
Hmmm, accidentally hit ''enter'' on that last post and Google zipped
it out, so here goes again...
From what you write below, you don't seem to know much, if anything
about Bukowski's subjects he touches on in his poetry.
In fact, the very first Bukowski piece /I/ read, back in 1975 or so,
was /very/ similar to Chuck's poem, about a guy who watches the young
teenage giel from his window, and the thoughts of what he'd like to do
with her. I'll look around and see if this one is online somewhere...
or someone may remember it and the title.
he'd know that
> Chuck's poem is nothing like Bukowski's work in any way shape or form.
No, the subject matter is very much similar to Buk, and the style of
writing is close to Buk's.
> >Of course it is. Yet Fred's got the idea from it that the poet is a
> >threat to children; not only that, but that everyone who doesn't agree
> >with that is also a threat to children.
>
> Anyone who would take such thoughts, and those thoughts as disturbing
> to say the least, and write them out as a poem isn't quite right.
Another poet who wrote very explicit poetry, in his case about sex
with young teenage males, was Allen Ginsberg, who is, of course,
considered one of the greatest of 20th Century poets... not like I'd
expect you to know any more about him and his poetry than you do
Buk's.
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