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MandyB

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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I was wondering when people would say the Beat movement ended?
I realize this is probably not that simple a question, but any related
response would be appreciated.


Mark Di Marzio

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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In my view the" beat movement" is still going in a way.There are still
writers coming thru who want to write about sense impressions and pushing
barriers and exploring terrain and movement and spontaneous prose etc. In
the sense of 'the' specific' beat movement' per se, i think it has died
along with Jack kerouac and Neal cassady and allen ginsberg and the other
co- creators when they physically died.. But just like elvis is now dead and
the beatles broke up and lennon died ;Music issuing forth and inspired
by/from that impetus is still going--This news group and the mere mention of
jack kerouac's name perpetuats the movement -it's a way of keeping it alive.
A way of remembering andcelebrating the 'vibe'that those guys lived and died
to present-their creative lives work.! When that goes I guess it will be
dead. Anyway thats what i reckon for what it's worth.
cheers... Mark Di Marzio.Australia.19/may/99.

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Loren Schooley

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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When Jerry died, that was the end of the main era.
Who is there now? No-one really. (The hoax writers
are doing ok on the net, tho.)
Right now, the only beat writing has been Charlton Heston's Harvard speech.


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Loren Schooley
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Christopher Jamison

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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MandyB <man...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in article
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>
> I was wondering when people would say the Beat movement ended?
> I realize this is probably not that simple a question, but any related
> response would be appreciated.

The Beat movement ended the night Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters
arrived in New York City and no one but Kesey paid attention to Kerouac.
Ginsberg and Burroughs and all the rest continued, but it was no longer
Beat. They were beats but there weren't any more beats. Now there were
hippies. Paul Perry wrote a terriffic book of oral history called _On the
Bus_ about Kesey and the Pranksters that explains this night in detail.
Basically, they hooked up with Ginsberg, Kesey wanted to meet Kerouac.
Kerouac was by that time doing his fifth of Johnny Walker a day plus pills
routine. When Kerouac entered, he noticed that the Pranksters had an
American flag draped haphazardly over the couch. Kerouac quietly and sadly
folded it properly and sat with it in his lap for the rest of the night.
Kesey was pretty much the only one who talked to him. That is the night
the Beat Generation ended.

Sarah


PaulMB715

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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Maybe after OTR was published, and the "beat generation," which was starting to
get taken seriously, suddenly became "the beatniks," which nobody took
seriously. Snyder went to Japan, Ginsberg started traveling everywhere,
Cassady worked on the railroad, and Jack went home to Memere to drink.

boo...@pacific.net

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Hasn't ended yet.

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twoshamshoes

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May 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/24/99
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>I was wondering when people would say the Beat movement ended?
>I realize this is probably not that simple a question, but any related
>response would be appreciated.
>

it ended
when charlie parker died
and rock and roll took over
i wanna hold your hand
and the madness of teeny boppers
sent us all to hell

DChodos158

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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In article <7id4us$7v9$2...@remarQ.com>, sinb...@excite.com (twoshamshoes)
writes:

>it ended
>when charlie parker died
>and rock and roll took over
>i wanna hold your hand
>and the madness of teeny boppers
>sent us all to hell
>

But the beginning of something wonderful; Dylan. I can't remember where I
read it, was it Sub. Kerouac (I know that it's not popular among many of you),
but Ellis Amburn <sp> suggests had Kerouac been in his right mind in those last
years he would merged rock with great writing, instead of the Teeny Bopper
shit.

dC
dchod...@aol.com

JOwens0464

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Jun 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/5/99
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The Beat Generation is just as alive as it ever was, if not stronger these
days, what with the release of CD box sets of Burroughs & Ginsberg, Kerouac,
etc., documentaries, ppbk. reissues of Kerouac's novels via Penguin Books -

It will never end.

Long live the Beat Generation,
John Owens
JOwen...@aol.com

SirAbsnthe

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Jun 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/6/99
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Hear Hear!

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