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Suxcess

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Jan 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/17/98
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At the time they filmed Interview Leo was too young to convincingly play
the part.

D wrote:

> Hey ya'll
>
> I kwown this subject has been talked to death. But have ya'll seen the
>
> lastest issue of People, the one with Leo on the cover. In the article
>
> there is a picture of him, a small one, from his upcoming film, The
> Man
> in the Iron Mask. He's playing King Louis XIV. WOW, put a blond wig on
>
> the kid and he would have made a SHUNNING 19th century Lestat. Too bad
>
> he didn't good the part. Does anyone know if he was offered the part,
> or didn't get it, or turned it down.
> Vash


D

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98
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MedelliaE

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98
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I actually prefer Leonardo with an auburn wig he would make a great Armand.

Elisa, Duchess of Donnelaith

Mary Hancock

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Jan 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/18/98
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I agree. In the books it states that Armand was only 16 when he became
a vampire. Also Lestat was only 19. Louis was in his early 20's.

Joe and CC Figel

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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Yes, I also agree that the part of Armand should have been played by someone
less sophisticated than Antonio Banderas. Anne described him as being "angelic"
a cherubic face.Antonio probably has to shave four times a day.
Think about this tho' gang. They have to be concerned about "box-office" and
while there's loads of us lurkers awaiting the next VC film. LeoD would draw
them in. He's SUCH a baby-face.
I can't remember the name of the fellow that played in the "Warlock" movies but,
if you'd take a couple inches of the tip of his nose on profile he could be MY
Lestat. He was also a rouge in the film "Grande Isle" with Kelly McGillis.
Anyone know who I mean?
I was irritated by the ending of the Cruise flick IWTV because, as WE know,
Daniel was being kept by Armand who was waiting till he matured to "make" him.
Lestat had nothing to do with Daniel's Dark Gift.............. Candis Camille in
NOLA

LionCtLstt

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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Julian Sands played in Warlock..I thought him resembling Lestat.
~L~

Justjason9

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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I really DO NOT think Leo should play Lestat. He may have an angelic face and
yes, he is very talented actor, but Lestat does not look like he is 12 years
old, ok?
DiCaprio does not have the powerful, physical presence that is required
(because of all of the vivid descriptions of Lestat). Actually, I would much
rather see Tom Cruise again as Lestat rather than Leo. John Malkovich would be
perfect if he weren't so old. Anyway it is just an opinion.

MedelliaE

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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Have you guys seen the ad for Man With The Iron Mask? Now tell me that Leo
DiCaprio would not make a great Armand!

Elisa, Duchess of Donnelaith

Joe and CC Figel

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Jan 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/19/98
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Right, I like Malkovich but, he's bulky and doesn't have the innocence besides
being too old, he's just not pretty enough for our boy Lestat. Speaking of
Khyman...there was a guy that used to be on Days of Our Lives that played Tony
Dimera. As usual, I can't remember his name but I always thought he looked like MY
Khyman. The soaps have some of the most beautiful people and are really good
actors...(no laughing!) and just may be a good place to look for AR casting
material.Candis Camille in NOLA

DigtalAbys wrote:

> > John Malkovich would be
> >perfect if he weren't so old.
>

> John Malkovich? You're kidding right? John Malkivich over Leo!!!!! Mon Dieu,
> I've heard everything. But really, I don't think John Malkovich has the boyish
> charisma of Lestat that made Tommy (Tom Cruise) so adorable. Yeah, yeah,
> Lestat's kinda mean, but he's usually playful and thoughtless but still sweet,
> and all this other stuff that John Malkovich could never pull off. Malkovich
> would be good at a more somber role such as Khayman or Santino, or maybe Mael.
> But, that's just my opinion.
> ~Janora

DigtalAbys wrote:

> > John Malkovich would be
> >perfect if he weren't so old.
>

> John Malkovich? You're kidding right? John Malkivich over Leo!!!!! Mon Dieu,
> I've heard everything. But really, I don't think John Malkovich has the boyish
> charisma of Lestat that made Tommy (Tom Cruise) so adorable. Yeah, yeah,
> Lestat's kinda mean, but he's usually playful and thoughtless but still sweet,
> and all this other stuff that John Malkovich could never pull off. Malkovich
> would be good at a more somber role such as Khayman or Santino, or maybe Mael.
> But, that's just my opinion.
> ~Janora


DigtalAbys

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Mary Hancock

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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I have an 11 year old daughter who will be 12 next month. I asked her
what she thought about Leo playing Armand. She smiled and got all
giggly and said she thought that would be great. She says that Leo
gets her motor running. She blushed a lot and giggled. She stopped
believing that boys give you cooties when she was 9. ;-)


Louie1998

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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Today on the Gayle King Show, Anne Rice really, really wants Leo to play the
part of Lestat. She was very vocal on how she thought he would make a great
Lestat!! I agree, I really didn't think Tom Cruise would had made a good
Lestat but he did do a good job. I think Leo needs the chance, he might
surprise you all!!!

Justjason9

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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i did not mean that Malkovich should play Lestat. He's too old. In his prime,
he would have easily chewed the role of Lestat to shreds. Let's get real...I
like Anne Rice. But have you seen Malkovich in Dangerous Liaisons or The
Sheltering Sky? Those roles were far more demanding than playing Lestat.
Actually Valmont in Dangerous Liaisons is a Lestat-like figure....aristocratic
rake.
As for Anne's desire for Leo to play Lestat. Hmmm....well maybe he can grow and
work out and develop a bigger, more maculine presence. It will probably take
another 10 years for that film to be made anyway!!! And i know this is a
reckless statement to make (but i believe it anyway), but Anne Rice is not a
filmmaker. She is a writer. Maybe if she concentrated more on her
writing....we all wouldn't be stuck with the taste of Memnoch, Servant, and the
even more dreadful Violin. Hopefully Pandora and Armand will be returns to
form.

D

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In <19980119232...@ladder01.news.aol.com> justj...@aol.com

(Justjason9) writes:
>
>I really DO NOT think Leo should play Lestat. He may have an angelic
face and
>yes, he is very talented actor, but Lestat does not look like he is 12
years
>old, ok?
>DiCaprio does not have the powerful, physical presence that is
required
>(because of all of the vivid descriptions of Lestat). Actually, I
would much
>rather see Tom Cruise again as Lestat rather than Leo. John Malkovich
would be

>perfect if he weren't so old. Anyway it is just an opinion.


I have to disagree with you. I think that Leo has the ability to play
either Lestat or Armand. I don't think he would lack a powerful
presense on the screen at all. I mean, look at Leo's work in The
Basketball Diairies, or Gilbert Grape, very powerful performances and
presence if you ask me. And no, I'm not a 16 year old Leo groupie, I'm
just into great actors.
While Cruise did a great job of playing Lestat(better than I thought he
would) and I did actually forget that it was Cruise and not Lestat
himself, I wouldn't want to see him again in the part he is too old
now.

D

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In <19980119233...@ladder01.news.aol.com> mede...@aol.com

Elisa,
I saw that one in People, I think Leo could have made a great Lestat or
Armand. For Interview especially he would have been a great Armand. I
was told the reason he didn't play Lestat was that he was too young at
the time the film was made. But I don't think so, the film was made in
early 1994, Leo is 22 now, so that would have put him at about 18, not
too young to play a 20 year old in my opinion. But I guess the powers
that be had thought he was, or just wouldn't be able to pull it off.
Vash

Bloody Mary

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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Joe and CC Figel <abit...@neosoft.com> wrote in article
<34C30F67...@neosoft.com>...


> I can't remember the name of the fellow that played in the "Warlock"
movies but,
> if you'd take a couple inches of the tip of his nose on profile he could
be MY
> Lestat. He was also a rouge in the film "Grande Isle" with Kelly
McGillis.
> Anyone know who I mean?


Yes, that would be Julian Sands. <Woo hoo! we've got another one!>

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Silvr777

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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Look you all, I'm a 16/m and I don't care who plays Lestat, either Leo or
Cruise. I am in the middle of QOTD and have to say I think it is the best in
the series so far. I agree w/some of you that Servant was not up to par for
Anne. It felt like the emotion was there or something. Needless to say
something was missing. I have yet to read Violin or Memnoch but I imagine I
will. I loved the Witch's series, Cry To Heaven, and the other one...oh yes
that would be The Mummy. I really liked that one. So let me know what you all
think of Cry To Heaven and the Mummy and such. Thanks!


Rachel

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Jan 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/20/98
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Suxcess wrote:
>
> At the time they filmed Interview Leo was too young to convincingly play
> the part.
>
> D wrote:
>

Anne mentions on her page that she would like him to play Lestat if they
ever do TVL. I don't think he was big enough yet to be considered for
IWV.
--
Rachel
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--- George Carlin

MedelliaE

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98
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>Yes, that would be Julian Sands. <Woo hoo! we've got another one!>

He would make a great Marius to me.

Elisa, Duchess of Donnelaith

Dementia

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Jan 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/21/98
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Bah!!!! JULIAN AS LESTAT!!!!!

Marius? Rutger Hauer in Buffy tge Vamipre Slayer mvoie.. I liked hin
there :)

Call me crazy or say I am suffereing from


Dementia

ANDI 55555

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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>I can't remember the name of the fellow that played in the "Warlock" movies
but, if you'd take a couple inches of the tip of his nose on profile he could
be MY Lestat. He was also a rouge in the film "Grande Isle" with Kelly
McGillis.

I know who you mean and even tho' his name escapes me too, I agree with you.

I also think Sting would've been the perfect Lestat. Didn't Anne Rice say once
that she had him in mind when she created the character? t She did make him a
rock star in "The Vampire Lestat".

>> In the books it states that Armand was only 16 when he became a vampire.
Also Lestat was only 19. Louis was in his early 20's.

It's been awhile since I read the original book "Interview With The Vampire",
where does it say that? The characters seem more mature than the ages stated.

ANDI

Rachel Cox

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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His name is Julian Sands, he is an extremely talented actor too. :)

Catherine R. Jehle

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>
> > John Malkovich would be
> >perfect if he weren't so old.
>
> John Malkovich? You're kidding right? John Malkivich over Leo!!!!! Mon
Dieu,
> I've heard everything. But really, I don't think John Malkovich has the
boyish
> charisma of Lestat that made Tommy (Tom Cruise) so adorable. Yeah, yeah,
> Lestat's kinda mean, but he's usually playful and thoughtless but still
sweet,
> and all this other stuff that John Malkovich could never pull off.
Malkovich
> would be good at a more somber role such as Khayman or Santino, or maybe
Mael.
> But, that's just my opinion.
> ~Janora
>

I agree. I still think that Tom Cruise was Lestat.


***Cathy Jehle

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The Oubre's

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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ok thus far ive tried to stay out of this discussion since it seemed to be
rather pointless..as i dont see the movie being made anytime soon...but as i
watched romeo and juliet (the new version with leo) yesterday, i was struck
by the scene in which we first see him on the beach when his cousin comes to
find him ... when he was smoking the cigarette and looks down at his
feet...to me he was the pure embodiment of Armand...i had never thought this
before or of him as Lestat either for that matter...but seeing him yesterday
dressed all in black and with that look on his face...it was and is hard to
describe somewhere in an unearthy look....a look of wisdom beyond his
physical years...yet the face of a cherub Totally ARMAND....oh well just my
own self ordained opinion.....btw...i hated the movie..>Romeo and Juliet the
ending was good (classic as always) but as my hubby so well put it...seemed
more like romeo and juliet on acid....LOL

Mal

Angela Terese Mulcahy

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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YES!!!! i too always thought that Leonardo DiCaprio was the PERFECT choice
to play Armand. That character was just so poorly cast, both for
appearance and attitude i think. Wasn't our dear Armand turned at about
age 17 or so? a young boy, cherubic in appearance, supposed to exude
innocence and sensuality at once? i think that is Leo to a T. Antonio
Banderas is a passable actor but he was not and will never be Armand in my
eyes. I could almost forgive the casting of Pitt as Louis , but never
Banderas as Armand

Angela Terese Mulcahy

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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Julian Sands also plays a wonderfully anguished vampire in the film Tale
of a Vampire. While the movie itself is not the best i've ever seen, it
ranks as one of my favorites simply because of Julians portrayal of Alex.
I always thought that he should have been cast as Lestat, except for the
fact that perhaps he is a few years too old to pass for the young man
Lestat was when he was made a vampire


On 20 Jan 1998, Bloody Mary wrote:

>
>
> Joe and CC Figel <abit...@neosoft.com> wrote in article
> <34C30F67...@neosoft.com>...
>
>

> > I can't remember the name of the fellow that played in the "Warlock"
> movies but,
> > if you'd take a couple inches of the tip of his nose on profile he could
> be MY
> > Lestat. He was also a rouge in the film "Grande Isle" with Kelly
> McGillis.

> > Anyone know who I mean?
>
>

> Yes, that would be Julian Sands. <Woo hoo! we've got another one!>
>

Talamasca(Philip Ho)

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<Hey ya'll

I kwown this subject has been talked to death. But have ya'll seen the
lastest issue of People, the one with Leo on the cover. In the article
there is a picture of him, a small one, from his upcoming film, The Man
in the Iron Mask. He's playing King Louis XIV. WOW, put a blond wig on
the kid and he would have made a SHUNNING 19th century Lestat. Too bad
he didn't good the part. Does anyone know if he was offered the part,
or didn't get it, or turned it down.
Vash>

Saw the trailer for that, Leo is great but he is not Lestat. Tom worked, still
with it. Leo is Armand.

The Mayfair House Keeper
--
"You are a vampire who never knew what life was until it ran out in a
red gush..."
"Good night sweet prince, may flights of devils wing you to your rest"
"Well, is the old myth true? If I waste this bitch, to use the vernacular,
do I waste the rest of us too?"
"Be a witch, not a bitch!"

Talamasca(Philip Ho)

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<I was irritated by the ending of the Cruise flick IWTV because, as WE know,
Daniel was being kept by Armand who was waiting till he matured to "make" him.
Lestat had nothing to do with Daniel's Dark Gift.............. Candis Camille
in>

Blame that on Jordan, he wrote that last scene. Anne like it. I do too. I love
the line "Still whining, Louis" That is Lestat! Anne said she can think of ways
to fix it.

Talamasca(Philip Ho)

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Tom surprise many people. He was great. Let him finish the job.

Talamasca(Philip Ho)

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<Elisa,
I saw that one in People, I think Leo could have made a great Lestat or
Armand. For Interview especially he would have been a great Armand. I
was told the reason he didn't play Lestat was that he was too young at
the time the film was made. But I don't think so, the film was made in
early 1994, Leo is 22 now, so that would have put him at about 18, not
too young to play a 20 year old in my opinion. But I guess the powers
that be had thought he was, or just wouldn't be able to pull it off.
Vash >

At the time, Leonardo read for Daniel not Lestat.... after Phoenix died.........

Besides age doesn't matter. He can be 30 still won;t be Lestat. Tom did a great
job because he showed the presense of Lestat. You can't miss Lestat. It was not
Louis's film it was Lestat's.

MEGdeQ

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Alright, Lestat was twenty (so Sting is too goddamn old to be perfect... :))*
Louis was twenty-four
Armand was about seventeen
Gabrielle was probably close to forty (seven kids, ouch... immortal stretch
marks?)
Marius was about thirty, if not younger (someone suggested Patrick Stewart;
great actor... too old for Marius... how about Magnus?)

The characters seem mature because a) they're hundreds of years old, and b)
they're fictional characters, so naturally they're more dynamic than "real"
people.

What is immportant to keep in mind about casting the movies is that often, you
want someone who may not look like the characters, if for no other reason, than
to see what they bring to the character.

*besides, Anne created Lestat almost a quarter of a century ago... Sting and
Rutger Hauer (another inspiration for Lestat) were very different men then.

LyJaneGrey

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Actually, I think Louis was 25 and Marius was 40. Am I mistaken?


-- (\/).牐小唄
http://members.aol.com/LyJaneGrey/bratprincess.html

D

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In <19980123140...@ladder01.news.aol.com> andi...@aol.com

(ANDI 55555) writes:
>
>In the books it states that Armand was only 16 when he became a
vampire. Also Lestat was only 19. Louis was in his early 20's.
>It's been awhile since I read the original book "Interview With The
Vampire", where does it say that? The characters seem more mature than
the ages stated.
>>ANDI
>
>Lestat was 20 in the book, but for the longest time I thought there
was a discrepency ecause Lestat says "in the winter of my 21st year" I
was told by V & M that it meant that he had turned 20, which would
place him in his 21st year, as we celebrate a birthday at the
completion of a year not at the beginning, so there is no discrepancy
in the book.
Louis is twenty-five when he is made, but you have to remember that
although Lestat stopped aging at 20 years, his mind, and all the
vampire's minds, never stop aging. So although he looked like a 20 year
old kid at the time he meets Louis he's got the mind and maturity of a
31 year old man. As for Louis maturity, he was the head of the house
for several years, he had to be mature, the same with Lestat, he was
the one who kept his family from starving and stopped the servants from
stealing from his family. BTW, if anyone can answer this, please do,
how does a family as poor as Lestat family is supposed to be managed to
have servants, I've never understood this, I'm far from poor and I
can't even effort a part-time maid, ha,ha.
I think, overall, the whole maturity thing has alot to do with the time
these characters were living in, adulthood was put on them much sooner,
in many ways, that we just don't see today. It was normal, for
instance, to marry at 15-16, today that's almost obscene and considered
very foolish. Anyway, great question
Take care
Vash


Mary Hancock

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> I could almost forgive the casting of Pitt as Louis , but never
>Banderas as Armand

I heard that at one time Brad Pitt was being considered for Lestat and
that Tom Cruise was being considered for Louis. But then someone
turned it around.


Bloody Mary

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MEGdeQ <meg...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980123220...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...

> Marius was about thirty, if not younger (someone suggested Patrick
Stewart;
> great actor... too old for Marius... how about Magnus?)


I thought Marius was 40-ish, plucked from the "prime of his life." I get
the feeling I should know who Patrick Stewart is, but my mind is failing at
the moment. Why am I thinking Star Trek? Am I on the right track?


> What is immportant to keep in mind about casting the movies is that
often, you
> want someone who may not look like the characters, if for no other
reason, than
> to see what they bring to the character.

Well said! And that's precisly why I am taking this moment to agree with
the person(s) who mentioned John Malkovitch. I adore his as an actor, not
because of what he looks like, but because he brings so much to each role.
I wouldn't mind him in any part, just because he'd be so damn good! Anyone
who could pull of Jeckyll, Hyde AND Cyrus the Virus has plenty enough
talent for any Ricean character.


--
Bloody Mary

MedelliaE

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> BTW, if anyone can answer this, please do,
>how does a family as poor as Lestat family is supposed to be managed to
>have servants, I've never understood this, I'm far from poor and I
>can't even effort a part-time maid, ha,ha.

In the days before washing machines, refrigerators, and dryers, it was very
cheap to have any servants. So almost everyone did. Now everyone has
appliances.

Elisa, Duchess of Donnelaith

Nick........................and occasionally, Annie

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And the question of servants.

They weren't servants, they were SERFS. A whole world of difference
and the local lord did not have to be rich, if he had land he had serfs and
they were his wealth.
They owed him TITHE for the use of a parcel of land to grow crops on.
The tithe was a portion of the crops AND time spent in the lord's service.
So the lord got food and service in return for the use of his land.

Nick
I don't mean to be so forward but history is my thing. :)

D

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In <19980123220...@ladder02.news.aol.com> meg...@aol.com

(MEGdeQ) writes:
>
>Alright, Lestat was twenty (so Sting is too goddamn old to be
perfect... :))*
>Louis was twenty-four
Louis was twenty-five,
>
Armand was about seventeen
Yes, the consenus seems to be 16-17

>Gabrielle was probably close to forty (seven kids, ouch... immortal
stretch marks?)
Ha,ha, that was funny. I can't even imagine being pregnant 7 times much
less actually giving birth seven times!!! But I think Gabrielle is
closer to 50 not forty, even if she had Augustine when she was 16-17,
he's got to be between 28 and 30 when Lestat is 20, so that would make
Gabrielle roughly 46-47 years old.

>Marius was about thirty, if not younger (someone suggested Patrick
Stewart;
Marius was 40 years old when he was made, he says so in TVL, I think
Patrick Stewart would still be a good Marius tho. That voice!!!!

>
great actor... too old for Marius... how about Magnus?)
Magnus was really old when he stole the blood from the vampire he
chained up, so probably a older actor, there's a really creepy looking
actor named Mathis Hues he was in a movie called "I Come in Peace" I
don't think he's done alot of work and the work he has done would be
considered "B" material, but I think he would make a great Magnus
<snip>
Vash
>

D

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In <01bd2884$65567180$e06aa1cf@linda> "Bloody Mary "

<esp@(removethis)autobahn.mb.ca> writes:
>
>
>
>MEGdeQ <meg...@aol.com> wrote in article
><19980123220...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>
>> Marius was about thirty, if not younger (someone suggested Patrick
>Stewart;
>> great actor... too old for Marius... how about Magnus?)
>
>
>I thought Marius was 40-ish, plucked from the "prime of his life." I
get
>the feeling I should know who Patrick Stewart is, but my mind is
failing at
>the moment. Why am I thinking Star Trek? Am I on the right track?
>
>Yes, Marius is 40, he tells Lestat that during their first meeting.
And yes, you are thinking correctly when you say Star Trek, he played
Jean-Luc Picard, the captain of the Enterprise.
>

D

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In <6acguc$62a$1...@perki.connect.com.au> "Nick........................and

I have to disagree with you on one point, Nick, and please don't be
insulted or hurt, you will find this alot in abar. I agree about the
serf thing and tithe, I find history interesting too, but did serfs
still exist in the 18th century? I'm not sure they did. And Lestat says
time and time again, that if it wheren't for the hunting and fishing HE
DID, they would have starved, so it doesn't appear that they were
getting anything from serfs. Lestat also states that while his family
owned alot of land, that land wasn't producing much of a food source,
the only thing the land was good for were the wild animals that ran on
it.
>
>


D

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In <34C8B5BA...@saclink.csus.edu> "Talamasca(Philip Ho)"

<sac8...@saclink.csus.edu> writes:
>
><I was irritated by the ending of the Cruise flick IWTV because, as WE
know,
>Daniel was being kept by Armand who was waiting till he matured to
"make" him.
>Lestat had nothing to do with Daniel's Dark Gift.............. Candis
Camille
>in>
>
>Blame that on Jordan, he wrote that last scene. Anne like it. I do
too. I love
>the line "Still whining, Louis" That is Lestat! Anne said she can
think of ways
>to fix it.
>
>That's interesting I didn't know that about that last scene, but I
agree "Still whining, Louis" THAT was Lestat. And as you said, I'm sure
if TVL EVER gets made, Anne will fix it so that Armand and Daniel hook
up and everything moves as it should.
We must remember that unlike most hokier vampire flixs, being bitten
doesn't necessarily make one a vampire. Lestat could have just scared
the shit out of Slater's character and left him to deal with the
aftermath on his own, sorta like "I'm here, I know who you are and what
you know about us. So just leave it alone now."
Vash

Talamasca(Philip Ho)

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<I heard that at one time Brad Pitt was being considered for Lestat and
that Tom Cruise was being considered for Louis. But then someone
turned it around.>

No, Neil and Geffen always casted Louis-Brad and Tom-Lestat. It was Anne and
other people who said you should turn them around. Brad with the blonde hair
should be Lestat!

Dementia

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His name is Julian Sands.. and *I* am the leader of the fan club that
wants him to be Lestat *giggles*

Dementia


andi...@aol.com (ANDI 55555) wrote:

>>I can't remember the name of the fellow that played in the "Warlock" movies
>but, if you'd take a couple inches of the tip of his nose on profile he could
>be MY Lestat. He was also a rouge in the film "Grande Isle" with Kelly
>McGillis.
>

>I know who you mean and even tho' his name escapes me too, I agree with you.
>
>I also think Sting would've been the perfect Lestat. Didn't Anne Rice say once
>that she had him in mind when she created the character? t She did make him a
>rock star in "The Vampire Lestat".
>

MedelliaE

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> Leo is Armand.

I agree 100%! Of course you all know that. He needs an auburn wig.

Elisa, Duchess of Donnelaith

Vertigo

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>Yes, I also agree that the part of Armand should have been played by someone
>less sophisticated than Antonio Banderas. Anne described him as being "angelic"
>a cherubic face.Antonio probably has to shave four times a day.

Well, that's true that Anne describes him like as being angelic but I'm not
sure about Leo's ability to play Armand.... He really has "that baby face" but
what about that cold and sensual way of being.....? I don't know....

Filipa

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Vertigo

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><Today on the Gayle King Show, Anne Rice really, really wants Leo to play the
>part of Lestat. She was very vocal on how she thought he would make a great
>Lestat!! I agree, I really didn't think Tom Cruise would had made a good
>Lestat but he did do a good job. I think Leo needs the chance, he might
>surprise you all!!! >


Really? I din't know that. And I definitly don't agree with that!
I don't think Leo would "make a goog" Lestat. I don't even think I would make a
good Armand! Maybe I'm wrong but he would need "something more" ....
On the other hand, as you say, he migh suprise us....

Vertigo

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>YES!!!! i too always thought that Leonardo DiCaprio was the PERFECT choice
>to play Armand. That character was just so poorly cast, both for
>appearance and attitude i think. Wasn't our dear Armand turned at about
>age 17 or so? a young boy, cherubic in appearance, supposed to exude
>innocence and sensuality at once? i think that is Leo to a T. Antonio

I do agree with that, but I still don't know if I would like to see Leo as
Armand.

>eyes. I could almost forgive the casting of Pitt as Louis , but never
>Banderas as Armand

Why do you say that about Pitt? I think he did a good job.

Vertigo

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>I heard that at one time Brad Pitt was being considered for Lestat and
>that Tom Cruise was being considered for Louis. But then someone
>turned it around.

That was definitly a good choice.

Racer Brown

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I think Leonardo might make a great Lestat. I never thought of Lestat as older than
Leonardo looks (not 12-have you seen a 12 year old lately?). I also always pictured
Lestat as slim and european looking-kinda with that "heroin chic" look that was
popular for a minute last year. The actor who plays Lestat has to be able to have
that "I want to eat you alive" sexy look in his eyes. I don't think Tom Cruise ever
got it quite right.


>
>
>


B.Lamar

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Talamasca(Philip Ho) wrote:

> <I was irritated by the ending of the Cruise flick IWTV because, as WE know,
> Daniel was being kept by Armand who was waiting till he matured to "make" him.
> Lestat had nothing to do with Daniel's Dark Gift.............. Candis Camille
> in>
>
> Blame that on Jordan, he wrote that last scene. Anne like it. I do too. I love
> the line "Still whining, Louis" That is Lestat! Anne said she can think of ways
> to fix it.
>

> The Mayfair House Keeper
> --
> "You are a vampire who never knew what life was until it ran out in a
> red gush..."
> "Good night sweet prince, may flights of devils wing you to your rest"
> "Well, is the old myth true? If I waste this bitch, to use the vernacular,
> do I waste the rest of us too?"
> "Be a witch, not a bitch!"

I agree! It was funny. I loved it.When they turn a novel into a movie they
always change something. They changed alot in this movie. But that ending was fun!
Linda


B.Lamar

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I think Leo is wounderful actor. I agree with anne I'd like to see him as Lestat.
Tom was good but it would be fun to see what Leo could do with Lestat. Linda

Vertigo wrote:

> >Yes, I also agree that the part of Armand should have been played by someone
> >less sophisticated than Antonio Banderas. Anne described him as being "angelic"
> >a cherubic face.Antonio probably has to shave four times a day.
>
> Well, that's true that Anne describes him like as being angelic but I'm not
> sure about Leo's ability to play Armand.... He really has "that baby face" but
> what about that cold and sensual way of being.....? I don't know....
>

Sheila L. Bailey

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Sign me up too.

Sheila

On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:21:45 GMT, haze...@mindxspring.com (Dementia)
wrote:

Terrah Hartley

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Terrah Hartley

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Terrah Hartley

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Talamasca(Philip Ho)

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<< ><Today on the Gayle King Show, Anne Rice really, really wants Leo to play
the
>part of Lestat. She was very vocal on how she thought he would make a great
>Lestat!! I agree, I really didn't think Tom Cruise would had made a good
>Lestat but he did do a good job. I think Leo needs the chance, he might
>surprise you all!!! >


Really? I din't know that. And I definitly don't agree with that!
I don't think Leo would "make a goog" Lestat. I don't even think I would make a
good Armand! Maybe I'm wrong but he would need "something more" ....
On the other hand, as you say, he migh suprise us....

Filipa
>>

Filipa I didn't say the thing you quoted but yes Anne wants Dicaprio for Lestat
but I think only becuase she thinks Cruise got better things to do....

The Mayfair House Keeper.

Heiğa

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I think Leonardo is too much of a baby to play Lestat. Lestat isn´t supposed
too look kind.


Leslie A Williams

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I haven't been in this NG in a very, very long time (...and I'm
experimenting with a new ng/e-mail format besides...) so excuse me if you've
heard this one before.

Anyway, I saw an interview, quite by accident as I was channel-surfing the
other night, with Anne Rice...it was that talk show of Oprah's gal pal,
can't remember her name...Anne has said that she would LOVE to have Leo as
Lestat in the next movie, Vampire Lestat.

D wrote in message <69rh9c$e...@sjx-ixn1.ix.netcom.com>...
>Hey ya'll
>
>I kwown this subject has been talked to death. But have ya'll seen the
>lastest issue of People, the one with Leo on the cover. In the article
>there is a picture of him, a small one, from his upcoming film, The Man
>in the Iron Mask. He's playing King Louis XIV. WOW, put a blond wig on
>the kid and he would have made a SHUNNING 19th century Lestat. Too bad
>he didn't good the part. Does anyone know if he was offered the part,
>or didn't get it, or turned it down.
>Vash

Laura Bryannan

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In article <34d226a1...@news.insync.net>, ma...@insync.net (Mary Hancock) wrote:
>> I could almost forgive the casting of Pitt as Louis , but never
>>Banderas as Armand
>
>I heard that at one time Brad Pitt was being considered for Lestat and
>that Tom Cruise was being considered for Louis. But then someone
>turned it around.

I saw an interview of Tom Cruise in which he said that when
he was being considered for the role of Lestat, the role of
Louis had already been cast (with Brad).

laura
www.isp.nwu.edu/~laura/

Vertigo

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>I think Leo is wounderful actor. I agree with anne I'd like to see him as Lestat.
>Tom was good but it would be fun to see what Leo could do with Lestat. Linda

Maybe you're right....
And I do agree with the fact that he is a good actor.

Vertigo

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>
>Filipa I didn't say the thing you quoted but yes Anne wants Dicaprio for Lestat
>but I think only becuase she thinks Cruise got better things to do....
>

And maybe she's right. Any way I think Leo is a good actor (I've just seen
Titanic!) so., once again... he might suprise us all. :)

Vertigo

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>popular for a minute last year. The actor who plays Lestat has to be able to have
>that "I want to eat you alive" sexy look in his eyes. I don't think Tom Cruise ever
>got it quite right.

Yes he did :)

D

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In <34d05fd...@news.ist.utl.pt> l42...@alfa.ist.utl.pt (Vertigo)
writes:
>
>>popular for a minute last year. The actor who plays Lestat has to be
able to have
>>that "I want to eat you alive" sexy look in his eyes. I don't think
Tom Cruise ever
>>got it quite right.
>
>Yes he did :)
>
>Filipa
>
>I have to disagree, Filipa, I think the only time in the movie that
Cruise had, and I love this BTW, that "I want to eat you alive" look in
his eyes was during the scene when Claudia shows him the twin boys she
brought home as a "gift". God, I loved the way Cruise looked in that
scene, as Baby Jenks said "He just makes you want to roll right over
and let him bite you."
Vash
>

Shera4me

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>as Baby Jenks said "He just makes you want to roll right over
>and let him bite you."
>Vash

If Leo never does play Lestat...I still want him to lean over and bite me 8)
Cristy

Bloody Mary

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D <va...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<6ao54j$k...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...

> >I have to disagree, Filipa, I think the only time in the movie that
> Cruise had, and I love this BTW, that "I want to eat you alive" look in
> his eyes was during the scene when Claudia shows him the twin boys she
> brought home as a "gift". God, I loved the way Cruise looked in that

> scene, as Baby Jenks said "He just makes you want to roll right over


> and let him bite you."
> Vash


I must disagree with you, Vash, because I think he gets it right during the
whore scene. Also, during that same scene it's the only time i noticed how
beautiful and elegant his hands were. As for who should play Lestat, I say
Why can't we all just be surprised, and trust that the casting-person will
find somebody even more perfect than anyone already mentioned?

--
Bloody Mary
*e...@autobahn.mb.ca*
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/6442
"Everything I want to do is either immoral, illegal or fattening."


D

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>D <va...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
><6ao54j$k...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...
>
>> >I have to disagree, Filipa, I think the only time in the movie that
>> Cruise had, and I love this BTW, that "I want to eat you alive" look
in
>> his eyes was during the scene when Claudia shows him the twin boys
she
>> brought home as a "gift". God, I loved the way Cruise looked in that
>> scene, as Baby Jenks said "He just makes you want to roll right over
>> and let him bite you."
>> Vash
>
>
>I must disagree with you, Vash, because I think he gets it right
during the
>whore scene. Also, during that same scene it's the only time i
noticed how
>beautiful and elegant his hands were. As for who should play Lestat,
I say
>Why can't we all just be surprised, and trust that the casting-person
will
>find somebody even more perfect than anyone already mentioned?
>
>--
>Bloody Mary
>
>You're right!!, Cruise does have beautiful hands, I had to go back and
look at the film about that one. But I don't see the "I want to eat you
alive" thing about him during the whore scene.I guess that I equate
that statement with sensuality not violence. I guess for the whore
scene was just too violent, I saw the cold-blood killer, Lestat, not
the sensual Lestat in that scene, for me the Claudia/Lestat/boy victims
scene just reeks of sensuality/lust as far as Lestat goes.
I think there was one other scene that came kinda close to it, in a
way. The scene where Louis is in the family cemetary and Lestat appears
and says "Have you said your good-byes to the light", the way he looks
at Louis, that has alittle of the "I want to eat you alive" thing going
on.
Take care
Vash


B.Lamar

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I love Tom in this movie. But I must confess in my wildest fantasy I never
made him a vampire. I laughed at the Idea. I watched it on video and I
loved it! I would love him to do TVL. I love Brad as Louis. And I loved
Antonio as Armand. But the wig was stupid! His own hair is perfect.The
movie wasn't loyal to the book but the changes where fun.Though I loved all
the actors I thought Kirstin was the best actor in the movie. This girl was
so convincing.She made you think she really was a woman in this little
girls body. Linda

Vertigo

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>I think Leo is wounderful actor. I agree with anne I'd like to see him as Lestat.
>Tom was good but it would be fun to see what Leo could do with Lestat. Linda

Maybe you're right....
And I do agree with the fact that he is a good actor.

Filipa

Vertigo

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>popular for a minute last year. The actor who plays Lestat has to be able to have
>that "I want to eat you alive" sexy look in his eyes. I don't think Tom Cruise ever
>got it quite right.

Yes he did :)

Filipa

Vertigo

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>I must disagree with you, Vash, because I think he gets it right during the
>whore scene. Also, during that same scene it's the only time i noticed how
>beautiful and elegant his hands were. As for who should play Lestat, I say

Thanks. BTW, I've noticed that about his hands too, they are so elegant.

>Why can't we all just be surprised, and trust that the casting-person will
>find somebody even more perfect than anyone already mentioned?

I don't know if "I thrust" the casting person....
I would love to see all them (Tom, Brad....) playing again ;)

Vertigo

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"B.Lamar" <Landsc...@gte.net> wrote:

>movie wasn't loyal to the book but the changes where fun.Though I loved all
>the actors I thought Kirstin was the best actor in the movie. This girl was
>so convincing.She made you think she really was a woman in this little
>girls body. Linda

Kirstin was great!


>> >You're right!!, Cruise does have beautiful hands, I had to go back and
>> look at the film about that one. But I don't see the "I want to eat you
>> alive" thing about him during the whore scene.I guess that I equate
>> that statement with sensuality not violence. I guess for the whore
>> scene was just too violent, I saw the cold-blood killer, Lestat, not

Well Vash, I equate that with sensuality too, but I think that scene with the
whores was really good. They needed to show the "cold-blood killer Lestat" and
they did it mixing (sp?) violence with sensuality and lust.
Lestat is sexy and cold at the same time. A charming killer! ;)

>> the sensual Lestat in that scene, for me the Claudia/Lestat/boy victims
>> scene just reeks of sensuality/lust as far as Lestat goes.
>> I think there was one other scene that came kinda close to it, in a
>> way. The scene where Louis is in the family cemetary and Lestat appears
>> and says "Have you said your good-byes to the light", the way he looks

>> at Louis, that has alittle of the "I want to eat you alive" thing going

I'm with you on that! Those 2 scenes were full of that "I want to eat you alive"
thing.

B.Lamar

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Me too Filipa. Linda

Vertigo wrote:

> >I must disagree with you, Vash, because I think he gets it right during the
> >whore scene. Also, during that same scene it's the only time i noticed how
> >beautiful and elegant his hands were. As for who should play Lestat, I say
>
> Thanks. BTW, I've noticed that about his hands too, they are so elegant.
>
> >Why can't we all just be surprised, and trust that the casting-person will
> >find somebody even more perfect than anyone already mentioned?
>
> I don't know if "I thrust" the casting person....
> I would love to see all them (Tom, Brad....) playing again ;)
>

D

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You're right!!, Cruise does have beautiful hands, I had to go back and
look at the film about that one. But I don't see the "I want to eat you
alive" thing about him during the whore scene.I guess that I equate
that statement with sensuality not violence. I guess for the whore
>>> scene was just too violent, I saw the cold-blood killer, Lestat,
not
>
>Well Vash, I equate that with sensuality too, but I think that scene
with the whores was really good. They needed to show the "cold-blood
killer Lestat" and they did it mixing (sp?) violence with sensuality
and lust. Lestat is sexy and cold at the same time. A charming killer!
;)

I agree with you there, we really needed to see that side of him,
especially since there wasn't much of the emotional depth in the movie,
that was in the book. It all had to be visual, I only wish that they
had left in that little lecture Lestat gives Louis when he says "You
never knew what life was, until it ran red across your lips." When I
first read that in the book it gave me chills, it was originally in the
movie and they cut it because in the little clips they gave at
Blockbuster that was one of them and it gave me chills on film too.
Yes, I agree Lestat is a charming killer indeed. That's what makes him,
in my mind, so dangerous. He looks too pretty to be dangerous, and when
the victim realizes he/she it getting more than they bargined for, it's
too late. However, I don't think I will ever equate violence with
sensuality, but hey, to each his/her own, it keeps the world
interesting.

the sensual Lestat in that scene, for me the Claudia/Lestat/boy victims
scene just reeks of sensuality/lust as far as Lestat goes.
I think there was one other scene that came kinda close to it, in a
way. The scene where Louis is in the family cemetary and Lestat appears
and says "Have you said your good-byes to the light", the way he looks
at Louis, that has alittle of the "I want to eat you alive" thing going
>
>I'm with you on that! Those 2 scenes were full of that "I want to eat
you alive"
>thing.
>
>Filipa
>
>bye! :)
>

>It's good to see that we agree on more than one thing, ha. ha. Take
care.
Vash


N'Awlins Chick

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Titanic was AWESOME but did you hear how they were making fun of it on Howard Stern
today? Bye the way, did anyone hear the rumor that Leo was coming down HERE for
mardi gras? word is spreading fast =)
Jenette

Vertigo wrote:

> >
> >Filipa I didn't say the thing you quoted but yes Anne wants Dicaprio for Lestat
> >but I think only becuase she thinks Cruise got better things to do....
> >
>
> And maybe she's right. Any way I think Leo is a good actor (I've just seen

> Titanic!) so., once again... he might suprise us all. :)

AZ SHUPE

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ANNE RICE IS INSANE TO THINK LEONARDO DICAPRIO WOULD MAKE A GOOD LESTAT. TOM
CRUISE IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO COULD BE LESTAT!!!

AZ SHUPE

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GO FILIPA!!!!


Scarlett Ram

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I agree totally, Tom Cruise did an amazing job of playing Lestat in the
INTERVIEW movie.

Meisen

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YEAH... LEO DI CAP IS TOO YOUNG TO BE LESTAT. TOM CRUISE HAS IMMOTALISED
THAT ROLE.

--
" The Best Thing About Life Is.....Knowing You Put It Together."
~ Trent Reznor, A Warm
Place.
AZ SHUPE wrote in message <19980215024...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...

Lisa Rowe

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I have to laugh, when I think back to 4+ years ago, when it was announced
that TC would play Lestat in the movie. Does anyone else remember how much
rancor that decision created? NO ONE thought he could carry it off at all.
People were ready to boycott. All they could think of was Top Gun and
Risky Business. Funny how things change!

Truthfully, I think we have to resign ourselves to NOT seeing Tom play
Lestat again. It looks like there's little to no chance of the movie being
made in the next 3-4 years, at which point the rights revert back to Anne.
Even if she, at that time, went full steam ahead and produced TVL, it
would be 18 months or so before it would be released. Face it, Tom will be
almost 40 by that point. (Hard to believe!!)

However, by *that* time, there's a good chance that Leo would have matured
(visually) enough to *look* like a Lestat.

In truth, I'd almost rather not see TVL be made into a movie. I don't
think Hollywood would do it justice. Too many plots, too complicated. I'd
rather see a cable (Showtime, HBO) miniseries of the Witching Hour. NOT
network tv, they'd butcher it.

On 15 Feb 1998, Scarlett Ram wrote:

> I agree totally, Tom Cruise did an amazing job of playing Lestat in the
> INTERVIEW movie.

> > ANNE RICE IS INSANE TO THINK LEONARDO DICAPRIO WOULD MAKE A GOOD LESTAT. TOM
> > CRUISE IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO COULD BE LESTAT!!!
>
>

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Alexandra Y. Kwan

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> [snip about time passing and so forth]

I agree that it's really strange to see ppl saying Tom Cruise would be
*the* Lestat for them when just four years ago, ppl were raging that Neil
Jordan picked Mr. Cruise. But I think most of the ppl that likes Tom
Cruise as Lestat got into the VampChron books because of the movie, so
they've the idea of Lestat being played by Tom already. That's why they
don't want anyone else to play Lestat. But, this is only my opinion, if
any of you out there disagree, please feel free to correct me.
But! I agree that Leonardo DiCaprio, by the time the TVL movie will be
made, will probably have matured enough to play Lestat.

--
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D

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In <19980215024...@ladder02.news.aol.com> azs...@aol.com (AZ

SHUPE) writes:
>
>ANNE RICE IS INSANE TO THINK LEONARDO DICAPRIO WOULD MAKE A GOOD
LESTAT. TOM
>CRUISE IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO COULD BE LESTAT!!!

There's no need to yell. Typing in all caps in considered yelling, and
this subject has been pretty much talked to death. Personally, I think
Leo could do it, Cruise is getting too old.
Vash

D

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In <6c62gj$424$1...@columbine.singnet.com.sg> "Meisen"

<mei...@mbox3.singnet.com.sg> writes:
>
>YEAH... LEO DI CAP IS TOO YOUNG TO BE LESTAT. TOM CRUISE HAS
IMMOTALISED
>THAT ROLE.
>
>Too young? Have you forgotten that Lestat is only 20 years old? Leo is
now 22, he'd be perfect and he's got the depth for the part, have you
seen Gilbert Grape or The Basketball Dairies he was brillient. I
haven't seen Titanic yet so I can't comment on his performance in that
one, but it is the biggest grossing movie in the history of film, so I
don't think he done badly in that one either. He also as a film coming
out "The Man in the Iron Mask" in which he plays King Louis, a rather
nasty character, I think this film will push aside any doubts one might
have about his ability to play Lestat. Cruise, on the other hand, is
pushing 35, way too old to play a 20 year old, he was pushing it when
he was 31, although I think he did a wonderful job of playing the part
and I would love to see Pitt as Louis again, I think he played thepart
very well, but I don't know if he would do it again, Pitt said he grew
to hate his character during the filming.
Vash
>

D

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In <Pine.LNX.3.95.980215...@harmony.oaktree.net> Lisa

Rowe <voo...@oaktree.net> writes:
>
>I have to laugh, when I think back to 4+ years ago, when it was
announced that TC would play Lestat in the movie. Does anyone else
remember how much rancor that decision created? NO ONE thought he could
carry it off at all. People were ready to boycott. All they could think
of was Top Gun and Risky Business. Funny how things change!

Oh boy, I remember that, ha, ha. When I first heard that choice all I
thought was: Whaaaatttt, Lestat: 6', blond, blue eyes, Cruise 5'9",
brown hair, blue eyes....Cocktail, Risky Business. Whaatttt!, ha, ha.


>
>Truthfully, I think we have to resign ourselves to NOT seeing Tom play
>Lestat again. It looks like there's little to no chance of the movie
being made in the next 3-4 years, at which point the rights revert back
to Anne. Even if she, at that time, went full steam ahead and produced
TVL, it would be 18 months or so before it would be released. Face it,
Tom will be almost 40 by that point. (Hard to believe!!)

My thoughts exactly, and I don't think ANY amount of Hollywood makeup
or magic is going to make him look 20.


>
>However, by *that* time, there's a good chance that Leo would have
matured >(visually) enough to *look* like a Lestat.

As I said about 1000 times I think Leo would make a stunning Lestat,
even right now. Yes, he does look much younger than his 22 years, but
he captures that angelic innocence that Lestat is supposed to have.


>
>In truth, I'd almost rather not see TVL be made into a movie. I don't
>think Hollywood would do it justice. Too many plots, too complicated.

I was disappointed at first with Interview, there were things cut out
of it that I would have loved to see: the relationship between Louis
and Babette and Louis fight with Lestat over killing Babette's brother.
Those two scenes would have added more emotional depth to both the
Louis character and the film as a whole,overall, I found the film
alittle dry emotionally.
I am skeptical about TVL, I'd really love to see it made into a movie,
but as you stated the book covers so much, without doubt, we are going
to lose some scenes that would have been visually stunning. If they cut
the wolf-killing scene or change it in anyway, for instance, the film
will be ruined IMO, Lestat killing the wolves is a big part of the
reason Magnus choose him.
They are also going to have to condense the time that Lestat and Gabby
spent wandering around. It will be a pity if they do away with their
final separation in Cairo or change their relationship at all, which
you know they will, I mean, incest in mainstream film isn't going to do
over well with general audiences, people that have never read the book
aren't going to understand that it isn't incest.
Vash

B GOOGLE

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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It's amazing that no one seems to remember that when Anne Rice wrote Interview
and TVL the face she had in mind was Rutger Hauer. She was extremely
disappointed during the years as Hauer grew older and the movie didn't get
made. In the comic book series, authorized by Rice, of TVL, the face drawn for
Lestat was Hauer's. I have Hauer's face indelibly printed in my mind as Lestat
and that is who I visualize when I read. Tom Cruise was okay, but not
wonderful as Lestat and I think Rice is nuts to change her vision and put the
baby faced Leo as her ideal. Oh well, such is life.

Natty's Mom

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actually, I do remember, now that you mention it... and I read IWV in
high school, the first few chapters were in a magazine!! Hauer had a
very cold, ruthless charm to him, remember Blade Runner? When he
smiled, you better run!! Actually I totally agree, his portrayal of
Lestat would have beed completely different, and not even close to as
Romanticised, more along the lines of the vampire as the Lord of
creation, looking at mortals as prey, and would have made a lot more
sense for Louis to hate Hauer-Lestat, than Cruise-Lestat, who in
comparison now seems bougouis...

oh well...

with a DiCaprio-Lestat, it would be a completely different story
again... taking on ephemeral qualities, maybe more wired than
"hunger-ing" ( I know that's not a word...) Oh well, as Vonnegut said,
"so it goes..."

Lisa
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Gaz

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A very mature and logical outlook on the Leo/Tom debate.He certainly has the
charisma and the fine face that we know Lestat carries,he is also able to
convey those feelings of emotion and passion that we know so well.
I agree the film would not do the book justice however a MUST SEE it will
be.

Which of the chronicles do you see as the best book.For me it is without
doubt Memnoch but no one else seems to post much about it.
Its a masterwork of modern interperation.

I agree whole hearterdley with the lady.

Gary

Lisa Rowe wrote in message ...


>I have to laugh, when I think back to 4+ years ago, when it was announced
>that TC would play Lestat in the movie. Does anyone else remember how much
>rancor that decision created? NO ONE thought he could carry it off at all.
>People were ready to boycott. All they could think of was Top Gun and
>Risky Business. Funny how things change!
>

>Truthfully, I think we have to resign ourselves to NOT seeing Tom play
>Lestat again. It looks like there's little to no chance of the movie being
>made in the next 3-4 years, at which point the rights revert back to Anne.
>Even if she, at that time, went full steam ahead and produced TVL, it
>would be 18 months or so before it would be released. Face it, Tom will be
>almost 40 by that point. (Hard to believe!!)
>

>However, by *that* time, there's a good chance that Leo would have matured
>(visually) enough to *look* like a Lestat.
>

>In truth, I'd almost rather not see TVL be made into a movie. I don't

>think Hollywood would do it justice. Too many plots, too complicated. I'd
>rather see a cable (Showtime, HBO) miniseries of the Witching Hour. NOT
>network tv, they'd butcher it.
>

Cujo124

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Feb 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/21/98
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What the hell is wrong with you!?
Tom Cruise's brilliant preformance could never be again achieved by anyone
other than him! Leo could never have his stanima and brillance in that role. I
am not saying he cant act, but only that he could never pull off the caracter
of Lestat.

Vertigo

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azs...@aol.com (AZ SHUPE) wrote:

>ANNE RICE IS INSANE TO THINK LEONARDO DICAPRIO WOULD MAKE A GOOD LESTAT. TOM
>CRUISE IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO COULD BE LESTAT!!!

Thanks! I'm with you on that! :)

MichyGr

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Hi, I am new to this group, but I just thought that I would add my two cents
worth.


>For me it is without doubt Memnoch but no one else seems to post much about
it.

I agree, of the Vampire Chronicles, Memnoch is my most favorite, but I have to
say that The Queen of The Damned is a very close second.

>Tom Cruise's brilliant preformance could never be again achieved by anyone
other than him!

I honestly did not think that Tom Cruise did a brillant performance of Lestat,
I think that he maybe should have read the book to get a better feel for the
character and if he did read the book than maybe he should have paid more
attention. I do feel that at times he got the character right, but that was
only in a few scenes.


Michelle

Osiris

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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In article <6c9h7q$d...@sjx-ixn1.ix.netcom.com>, va...@ix.netcom.com
says...
> >ANNE RICE IS INSANE TO THINK LEONARDO DICAPRIO WOULD MAKE A GOOD
> LESTAT. TOM
> >CRUISE IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO COULD BE LESTAT!!!
>
> There's no need to yell. Typing in all caps in considered yelling, and
> this subject has been pretty much talked to death. Personally, I think
> Leo could do it, Cruise is getting too old.
> Vash
>

Though I disagree with the idea of DiCaprio playing Lestat, I would
consider it insane to say that Cruise is the only person for the part.
Where's the logic in that?
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Bluemm

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>
>>ANNE RICE IS INSANE TO THINK LEONARDO DICAPRIO WOULD MAKE A GOOD LESTAT.
TOM
>>CRUISE IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO COULD BE LESTAT!!!

>**********************************************

Anne Rice has to have a few screws loose to begin with in order to write
the quality she does in both the vampire & witch series.......kind of like
Steven King. i have to agree though....Tom Cruise is the only
Lestat. JMHO.

Tom
blu...@gdi.net

Bluemm

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>
>I agree, of the Vampire Chronicles, Memnoch is my most favorite, but I
have to
>say that The Queen of The Damned is a very close second.

for me, the queen of the damned is #1 with memnoch a *very* close
2nd.

>
>I honestly did not think that Tom Cruise did a brillant performance of
Lestat,
>I think that he maybe should have read the book to get a better feel for
the
>character and if he did read the book than maybe he should have paid more
>attention. I do feel that at times he got the character right, but that
was
>only in a few scenes.
>

i had never read a rice book until i saw cruise do the movie. i started
with interview and read 1 after the other until i read all of her books.
through out the vampire chronicles i pictured cruise as lestat (sight &
sound). i just can't see anyone but him in the part.

tom
blu...@gdi.net


Osiris

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
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In article <01bd3a92$cf7c2da0$1a19...@alextoy.ucdavis.edu>,
ayk...@ucdavis.edu says...

> > [snip about time passing and so forth]
>
> I agree that it's really strange to see ppl saying Tom Cruise would be
> *the* Lestat for them when just four years ago, ppl were raging that Neil
> Jordan picked Mr. Cruise. But I think most of the ppl that likes Tom
> Cruise as Lestat got into the VampChron books because of the movie, so
> they've the idea of Lestat being played by Tom already. That's why they
> don't want anyone else to play Lestat. But, this is only my opinion, if
> any of you out there disagree, please feel free to correct me.
> But! I agree that Leonardo DiCaprio, by the time the TVL movie will be
> made, will probably have matured enough to play Lestat.

A dissenting opinion. As an Anne Rice fan for some 15 years, I went into
the idea of Cruise playing Lestat kicking and screaming and hating every
minute of it. Then I went and saw the movie (like there was any chance I
was actually going to skip?) and you know what? I liked it. I actually
enjoyed Cruise's performance. Oh, certainly I could find many things
which were not how Lestat was depicted or perhaps how we wanted to see
him, but all in all, a fine performance. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing
him do it again though I still wouldn't be opposed to a different choice.
On the other hand, my head still aches at the idea of DiCaprio doing
Lestat. I think he's a fine actor, don't get me wrong. But Lestat? I
don't see it.

D

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In <6cskgn$i...@news.gdi.net> "Bluemm" <blu...@gdi.net> writes:
>
>i had never read a rice book until i saw cruise do the movie. i
started
>with interview and read 1 after the other until i read all of her
books.
>through out the vampire chronicles i pictured cruise as lestat (sight
&
>sound). i just can't see anyone but him in the part.
>
>tom
>blu...@gdi.net
>
>That's *because* you saw the film first. I first read Interview back
in the 80's, and consumed the rest of the then Trilogy one after the
other. Cruise did a good job of being Lestat, however, he was never how
I pictured Lestat looking, Cruise didn't have that androgenous (sp?),
angelic quality down in his Lestat. He was alittle too masculine in
appearance and alittle too homophobic, which was why several scenes
where either changed or dropped completely.
I mean really, would it have killed Cruise or Pitt to try to get into
one coffin together like Louis and Lestat had to in the book and keep
it closer to the book. They would have had to stay like that for all of
about 2 seconds on film.
Vash
>


Bluemm

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
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D,
well 1st off, let's face it, even in the late '90s there are quite a few
men that ain't kissing another man for any amount of money.
do you really see cruise as masculine? he's a skinny little twerp.
he's only about 5-8, 5-9. he wears lifts in most of his movies.
i guess you haven't seen a stallone or arnold flick lately. :>)
about the only known actors, i can think of, that are less masculine
then cruise is either jim carry-forget that- and will smith-i don't believe
the blond hair, the french accent and the history would work. don't
get me wrong, i like all cruise's movies.....i just don't see him as
masculine.

now with that outta the way......when you *1st* read the series, who
could you see doing the part ? when i read a book i always picture
the characters in my mind. the easiest way to do that is to give the
parts to a known actor. like, when i 1st read steven king's the stand
(early 80's) i pictured sam elliott as stu redman. when i heard that
the part for the mini-series was going to gary senise, i just couldn't
see him in the roll........till i watched it. of course by the time
they
made the movie elliott was to old for the part........but when i 1st read it
he had that tall, lean, texas country-boy air for the part. and as
it
turned out, senise did a superb job.

tom

D wrote in message <6cum7g$q...@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>...

Seriine

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
to Osiris

I agree with Osiris...Leo is better suited to those light, not necessarily
happy parts, but those tragic, leading men roles, like Jack Dawson,
Jim Caroll, etc...the men who you don't know their past. Dreamers,
Poets, writers...Romeo! this is all suited to Leo.. Lestat, however,
is a deep charecter. Everyone has a different view of him, everyone
has a different picture of him. I liked Tom Cruise. I thought he portrayed
Lestat very well....Leo, however could not aquire the depth required
for Lestat in a lifetime..Sorry leo fans, i love him too, but i think
it would be a total dissapointment to see him as Lestat.....now,
Louis maybe! I could possibly see him as Louis...:)

Ps. little note:: Has anyone seen the previews for Man in the Iron Mask?
I saw them yesterday!!! can't wait for that one!!! :0

Eternally,
Seriine6

"The most beautiful of the goddesses, Seriine Silkenhair, stood and
offered her hand to the black robed mage who stood amazed,for he now knew
what love could be."


Richard Alba Baldonado

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
to Bluemm

I agree with concerning Tom being Lestat. I can never picture any other as
Lestat. He needed very little to transform himself into the part. I
imagine Lestat having Tom's face. The blue eyes, the sculpted nose, and
the
seductive mouth. The soft, purring voice.
I think that he should have read ITWV and TVL , so that he really
understood Lestat's feelings and motivations for actions.

Ciao,

Richard Baldonado

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Bluemm wrote:

>
> >
> >I agree, of the Vampire Chronicles, Memnoch is my most favorite, but I
> have to
> >say that The Queen of The Damned is a very close second.
>
> for me, the queen of the damned is #1 with memnoch a *very* close
> 2nd.
>
> >
> >I honestly did not think that Tom Cruise did a brillant performance of
> Lestat,
> >I think that he maybe should have read the book to get a better feel for
> the
> >character and if he did read the book than maybe he should have paid more
> >attention. I do feel that at times he got the character right, but that
> was
> >only in a few scenes.
> >
>

D

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In <6cutq1$t...@news.gdi.net> "Bluemm" <blu...@gdi.net> writes:
>
>now with that outta the way......when you *1st* read the series, who
>could you see doing the part ? when i read a book i always
picture
>the characters in my mind. the easiest way to do that is to give the
>parts to a known actor. like, when i 1st read steven king's the
stand
>(early 80's) i pictured sam elliott as stu redman. when i heard
that
>the part for the mini-series was going to gary senise, i just couldn't
>see him in the roll........till i watched it. of course by the
time they made the movie elliott was to old for the part........but
when i 1st read it he had that tall, lean, texas country-boy air for
the part. and as it turned out, senise did a superb job.
>
>tom

Tom,

Hi. You're right about that, we are not going to see two guys kissing
on film too often. As far as the other, when I first read the series, I
didn't know it would ever be made into a movie. I had no idea that the
project had been on the table for at least 20 years, so I never really
gave much thought as to who would/should play the part of Lestat. When
I found out that it was going to be Cruise, I have to admit tho, I
freaked, all I thought about was Risky Business and that god-awful
movie Cocktail. Even looking at films like Top Gun, Born on the Fourth
of July, and A Few Good Men, I didn't think Cruise could pull it off
first of all because he, like you said, doesn't fit Lestat's appearance
and because he pretty much lacks an edge.
I guess that I'm one of those people who will never be satisfied with
whatever actor is choosen to play the part because this character is so
undefinable and ethereal. He's androgenous, extremely unpredictable,
caring and self-centered, superficial and philosophical, kindly to the
point of obsession (we see that through Louis narration of how Lestat
treated Claudia before things fell apart),yet coldly cruel, etc. all of
this rolled up into one being. I think maybe an unknown should be given
a shot, someone who's been just working in theatre or something like
that.
Outside of that, I really like the idea of Leo playing the part, like
someone posted earlier, Leo is 22 now, it's going to be at least 3
years before AR gets the rights to the film back and at least another
18 mths before the film is completed, in 4+ years I think Leo will be
stunning in the part. I'm going to see The Man in the Iron Mask which
comes out here on March 13, I've seen a few of the trailers for the
film and it looks like Leo's part definately has a nasty edge to it, in
one trailer he's telling someone that the fact that his twin is his
brother is the "only reason he's still alive" I saw Lestat in Leo for
that split second.
Vash

Lisa Rowe

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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Bluemm wrote:

> D,
> well 1st off, let's face it, even in the late '90s there are quite a few
> men that ain't kissing another man for any amount of money.
> do you really see cruise as masculine? he's a skinny little twerp.
> he's only about 5-8, 5-9. he wears lifts in most of his movies.
> i guess you haven't seen a stallone or arnold flick lately. :>)

Well, to be nit-picky...Stallone and Ahhhh-nold are about the same height.
Hard to believe, but true!

> about the only known actors, i can think of, that are less masculine
> then cruise is either jim carry-forget that- and will smith-i don't believe
> the blond hair, the french accent and the history would work. don't
> get me wrong, i like all cruise's movies.....i just don't see him as
> masculine.

Plenty masculine, but not French barbarian-nobleman. Nonetheless, he did a
respectible job with the role.

> now with that outta the way......when you *1st* read the series, who
> could you see doing the part ? when i read a book i always picture
> the characters in my mind. the easiest way to do that is to give the
> parts to a known actor. like, when i 1st read steven king's the stand
> (early 80's) i pictured sam elliott as stu redman. when i heard that
> the part for the mini-series was going to gary senise, i just couldn't
> see him in the roll........till i watched it. of course by the time
> they
> made the movie elliott was to old for the part........but when i 1st read it
> he had that tall, lean, texas country-boy air for the part. and as
> it
> turned out, senise did a superb job.

I never really picture actors in roles..I picture my imaginary, very
non-existent cast!

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Nightfall

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Feb 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/26/98
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On 25 Feb 1998 14:27:42 GMT, va...@ix.netcom.com(D) wrote:


>Hi. You're right about that, we are not going to see two guys kissing
>on film too often.


If you want to see that, then I've been enjoying one particular video
for the past two years.
Rent "Total Eclipse", with Leonardo Dicaprio and David Thewlis
(who is also wonderful as usual in "Seven Years in Tibet").

BTW, is Leonardo STILL an unknown, or have people finally woken up?

<echoing laughter>


>Outside of that, I really like the idea of Leo playing the part, like
>someone posted earlier, Leo is 22 now,


He's 23 now.
And if he keeps on smoking, in a few more years, he'll LOOK 83.


>it's going to be at least 3
>years before AR gets the rights to the film back and at least another
>18 mths before the film is completed, in 4+ years I think Leo will be
>stunning in the part.


Better get him a nicotine patch, *quick*!


>I'm going to see The Man in the Iron Mask which
>comes out here on March 13, I've seen a few of the trailers for the
>film and it looks like Leo's part definately has a nasty edge to it,


It's that slicked back hair, and evil almond eyes. Can't go wrong
with that one.
Good ol' Lestat. Always so evil and nasty.


Deborah Anne


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