Male vampires constantly aroused?
Eric Lorenzo
Lestat goes to the bathroom for the first time as a human:
'But this limpness, it felt remarkably repulsive to me, and I
didn't want to touch the thing. [...] I shoved this flaccid,
disgusting thing back in my pants . . .'
By Lestat's reaction, is Rice saying that the male vampires walk
around with a constant erection?
Thanks,
Eric
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> Here's a quote from TotBT that started me to thinking. It is when
>Lestat goes to the bathroom for the first time as a human:
>
> 'But this limpness, it felt remarkably repulsive to me, and I
> didn't want to touch the thing. [...] I shoved this flaccid,
> disgusting thing back in my pants . . .'
>
> By Lestat's reaction, is Rice saying that the male vampires walk
>around with a constant erection?
I think what she's trying to say is that Lestat hasn't handled a penis in
several hundred years. Why should he have? It's not as though he's had to
go to the bathroom or had sex since he died in the 1700's.
I don't remember Rice ever mentioning any of the male vampires having
erections, and considering the amount of physical description, I don't think
she simply left it out.
I think I'll just repeat for good measure, that I am thoroughly disappointed in
Rice's description of Lestat urinating and having sex.
>Thanks,
>Eric
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>I don't remember Rice ever mentioning any of the male vampires having
>erections, and considering the amount of physical description, I don't think
>she simply left it out.
I could have sworn that one time one of the members of the
Talamasca saw him naked, and he was described as having an errection.
I am not sure, it was a while ago that I read it, (I can't even remember
what book it was in) and I could have been confusing it with the general
hardness of his body. Can anyone else remember anything?
Madeleine
Mary Reiter
>... could have been confusing it with the general
>hardness of his body....
I think that would explain the matter. It is not that it is
"erect" in the general sense of the term, rather it is simply
"hard" like the rest of the vampire's body. So, when Lestat
first felt it, it was quite a contrast.
Does that make sense to everyone else?
Mary
Kathleen Morrey
bathed by a group of women, and some comment is made as to his being erect
like a human ready for sex. Unfortunately, I've lent out that book, so I
can't check it... Could someone else? Thanks.
Kat
Sharon Murphy
>Madeleine
well, i could be wrong, but wasnt there a scene in QOD where he was
being fawned over by gezillions of beautiful women on the queens
orders, and he mentioned what a waste a penis was on him as hed
never use it again, or summat...
im paraphrasing .... duh....
s
Si Rowe
I think that the growing consensus here seems to be that the vampires
are *hard* without being *erect*: that is, the vampires' penises are as
hard as the rest of their bodies, but aren't sexually functional.
But, if drinking blood is the experience Anne describes, who needs sex?
;-)
Yours, Si Rowe (who can't believe he just wrote that.)
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Susan Lestat Spaet
Akasha in QOTD, and here it is:
"I studied my reflection - my chest was like a marble torso in a museum, that
white. And the organ, the organ we don't need, poised as if ready for what it
would never again know how to do or want to do, marble, a Priapus at a gate."
Interpret that as you will.
Tariq Andre Mahadeo
>"erect" in the general sense of the term, rather it is simply
>"hard" like the rest of the vampire's body. So, when Lestat
>first felt it, it was quite a contrast.
>
>Does that make sense to everyone else?
tariq
Eric Lorenzo
I started this thread :0) and this quote seems show that they do
indeed walk around with erections. Anyway, my question now is, what's a
Priapus?
Si Rowe
lor...@rintintin.Colorado.EDU writes:
> I started this thread :0) and this quote seems show that they do
>indeed walk around with erections. Anyway, my question now is, what's a
>Priapus?
Priapus was the ancient Roman god of male sexuality, and about as crude
as they come. You won't find him in Bullfinch. He was generally depicted
with a HUGE erection, whence the word "priapic". Statues of him were
apparently put up all over the place, sometimes to frighten away thieves!
In one of Horace's Satires a wooden statue of Priapus frightens two
would-be witches from a park/cemetary by letting out a huge fart. No
joke! It's in _Arcana Mundi_, a fascinating collection of texts on "magic
and the occult in the Greek and Roman worlds" by Georg Luck; the Priapus
bits are on pages 29-30 and 75-76. Here's an excerpt from the Horace:
"... So I am a god, a holy terror to thieves and birds: my hand
and the red shaft that sticks out indecently from my crotch
threaten the thieves; the bundle of reeds planted on my head
frighten the birds! they are a nuisance!! and forbids them to
settle on in what is now a park."
You get the picture. Aren't you glad you asked?
Yours, Si Rowe
Heather Ammons Cook
Grant Jeffrey Barrus
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Anne wrote that Vampires were incapable of
sex, and therefore incapable of errection? I thought both their sex drives
and need for food were combined in their bloodlust.
Grant Jeffrey Barrus
Phil Stocks
Well, there are two issues. Can a (male) vampire do it, and would he enjoy
it? Vamps have a lot of control of the blood in their body---they use it
for their power. I think it would be feasible for a vampire to simply fill
the relevant bit with blood, giving him an erection. However, there would
be no sexual stimulus attached to this. Though, it could be used for
intercourse with a human. No bodily fluids are produced. The comments
of vampires' organs mainly relate to their uselessness for procreation.
Now, the desire.
I think Anne Rice makes it quite clear that a vampire craves blood not only
for food but for a feeling we can only translate as sexual desire.
Blood arouses them (sexually), and drinking it is how they get off. Note,
of course, that gender is immaterial now, and appearance also. Age only
matters in a similar way as it does in wines.
Phil.
Matthew L Reid
that sexual organs were the only area not enhanced by the vampire process.
Basically, so vamps don't have sex or erections,etc...
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> I remember somewhere in the Vampire Lestat that it said something to the effect
> that sexual organs were the only area not enhanced by the vampire process.
> Basically, so vamps don't have sex or erections,etc...
If I remember correctly...
Vampires can't/don't have sex. Since the biological purpose of sex is
reproduction, vampires don't "need" to have sex. They reproduce by exchange
of blood with a living human.
Personally, I don't agree with the logic of this, but it seems that for the
vampires feeding is as great a sensual experience as sex is for mortals, so
maybe it's not that great of a loss. And vampires can exchange blood
between each other, apparently not without enjoyment.
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the Queen, his former sex organ was mentioned. He mused that it was a
useless thing without a purpose anymore;therefore, male vampires dont have
sexual intercourse. Besides, why would they want it since they reach
ecstasy when they transfer or drink blood.