Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press
Go Go Goblin!
> http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
>
> BLEEP THE PRESS: CAMERA MOVED OFF POWELL DURING RUSSERT GRILLING; AIDE
> ATTEMPTED TO CUT OFF INTERVIEW
> Sun May 16 2004 10:45:35 ET
> **Exclusive Details**
>
> An aide to Sec. of State Colin Powell ordered a halt to a MEET THE PRESS
> interview and directed a camera to shoot a palm tree during provocative
> questioning by host Tim Russert!
>
> Powell was being interview by satellite from Jordan.
>
> State Department press aide Emily Miller fumed as Tim Russert went beyond
> the 10 minutes allotted for the NBC Sunday session.
>
> MORE
>
> 13 minutes in to the interview, Miller attempted to pull the plug.
>
> As Russert grilled Powell on his presentation at the UN of Iraq's alleged
> WMDs -- Miller moved the single remote camera off Powell.
>
> "You're off," Miller announced.
>
> "I am not off," Powell warned.
>
> "No. They can't use it, they're editing it..." Miller said on an open
> microphone.
>
> "Emily, get out of the way. Bring the camera back please," the secretary
> snapped.
>
> MORE
>
> Russert aired the exchange unedited.
>
> Powell was 45 minutes late to the taping, a top source explained.
>
> NBC's MEET THE PRESS joined in progress....
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> TIM RUSSERT: Finally, Mr. Secretary, in February of 2003, you placed your
> enormous personal credibility before the United Nations and laid out a case
> against Saddam Hussein, citing.
>
> (Camera moved off of interview subject)
>
> EMILY MILLER, STATE DEPARTMENT PRESS AIDE: You're off.
>
> SECRETARY POWELL: I am not off.
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> EMILY MILLER, PRESS AIDE: No. They can't use it, they're editing it.
>
> SECRETARY POWELL: He's still asking the questions.
>
> EMILY MILLER, PRESS AIDE: He was not ...
>
> SECRETARY POWELL: Tim, I am sorry I lost you.
>
> MR. RUSSERT: I am right here Mr. Secretary. I would hope they would put
> you back on camera. I don't know who did that.
>
> EMILY MILLER, PRESS AIDE: He was going to go for another five minutes.
>
> SECRETARY POWELL: We've really scre...
>
> MR. RUSSERT: I think that was one of your staff Mr. Secretary. I don't
> think that's appropriate.
>
> SECRETARY POWELL: Emily, get out of the way. Bring the camera back please.
> (Camera returns to the interview subject) I think we're back on Tim, go
> ahead with your last question.
>
> MR. RUSSERT: Thank you very much, sir.
>
> In February of 2003, you put your enormous personal reputation on the line
> before the United Nations and said that you had solid sources for the case
> against Saddam Hussein. It now appears that an agent called "Curve Ball"
> had misled the CIA by suggesting that Saddam had trucks and trains that were
> delivering biological chemical weapons.
>
> How concerned are you that some of the information you shared with the world
> is now inaccurate and discredited?
>
> SECRETARY POWELL: I'm very concerned. When I made that presentation in
> February 2003, it was based on the best information that the Central
> Intelligence Agency made available to me. We studied it carefully. We
> looked at the sourcing and the case of the mobile trucks and trains. There
> was multiple sourcing for that. Unfortunately, that multiple sourcing over
> time has turned out to be not accurate, and so I'm deeply disappointed.
>
> But I'm also comfortable that at the time that I made the presentation it
> reflected the collective judgment, the sound judgment, of the intelligence
> community, but it turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and,
> in some cases, deliberately misleading. And for that I'm disappointed, and
> I regret it.
>
> MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Secretary, we thank you very much for joining us again and
> sharing your views with us today. SECRETARY POWELL: Thanks, Tim.
>
> (END OF PRE-TAPE INTERVIEW)
>
> MR. RUSSERT: AND THAT WAS AN UNEDITED INTERVIEW WITH THE SECRETARY OF
> STATE, TAPED EARLIER THIS MORNING FROM JORDAN.
>
> WE APPRECIATE SECRETARY POWELL'S WILLINGNESS TO OVERRULE HIS PRESS AIDES'
> ATTEMPT TO ABRUPTLY CUT OFF OUR DISCUSSION AS I BEGAN TO ASK MY FINAL
> QUESTION.
>
> COMING NEXT ...
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> (END)
>
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>
> Did anyone else see this? I watched it this morning. Powell pretty much
> admits that we were full of shit when we went to the UN. I bet he's starting
> to piss the rest of the Bush administration off.
>
all in all, I believe Powell a very
principled man. I bet it sets his
gnads on fire every time he has to
cover for the bush administration's
stupidity.
--
BFG
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becca
Go Go Goblin! <toot.po...@ts.of.the.hootin.tootin.land> wrote:
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Did anyone else see this? I watched it this morning. Powell pretty much
> > admits that we were full of shit when we went to the UN. I bet he's starting
> > to piss the rest of the Bush administration off.
> >
>
>
>
> all in all, I believe Powell a very
> principled man. I bet it sets his
> gnads on fire every time he has to
> cover for the bush administration's
> stupidity.
i agree, but i have a hard time reconciling the principled man with the
man who is working for the Bush administration. it's going to color
everything he ever does in the future, and a lot of what the bush admin
does/did--including shit he had nothing to do with--will probably come
back to haunt him if he stays in politics.
becca
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Joe Freezetag
"becca" <Skaf...@eIarHATEthlinkSPAMMERS.net> wrote in message
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I try to think of it like this, he probably figures he can do more good
working inside the administration than he could from outside. In other
words, just think about how shitty things could be if there were no voice of
reason in the Bush white house. I know they rarely, if ever, follow his
recommendations, but it's somewhat reassuring to know he's in there trying.
--
Joe Freezetag
Navy Kurt
didn't have them but he had the programs and the nessesary chemicals
to make the weapons. every time i point this out someone on this group
get's pissed then declares that it isn't the point. then someone else
comes along and restarts the whole line of "he didn't have the
weapons" bullshit. it's like having bullets, a slide a main spring,
grip, and all the nessasry parts to assemble a pistol and claiming you
don't have a gun.
Navy Kurt
Navy Kurt
Doublespeak
> it's like having bullets, a slide a main spring,
> grip, and all the nessasry parts to assemble a pistol and claiming you
> don't have a gun.
Nice way to backpedal on the "smoking gun".
Joe Freezetag
"Navy Kurt" <navy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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But we didn't say he had "programs" or "necessary chemicals to make
weapons," we said he had actual weapons of mass destruction. We were WRONG!
We said he had the capability to deploy them in 45 minutes, we said we knew
exactly where they were, we said he was close to having nukes, and we said
that they posed an imminent threat. All of that has proven to be bullshit.
Even Colin Powell admits that his presentation to the UN was mostly false.
Just because I don't think we broke international law, doesn't mean I think
we were right in going to war. Invading Iraq hasn't made us any safer, isn't
likely to create a free Iraq, and has killed damn near 800 American
soldiers. It wasn't and isn't worth it.
--
Joe Freezetag
justin stewart
Okay, do you know what chemicals he had? What kind of weapons programs
did he have? I'd be interested in reading more.
-justin
Navy Kurt
can you say "sarin nerve gas". they found an ied (improvised explosive
devise) made out of 1 of 500 unaccounted for shells. so let's stop
with the no wmd's farce.
Navy Kurt
> weapons," we said he had actual weapons of mass destruction. We were WRONG!
> We said he had the capability to deploy them in 45 minutes, we said we knew
> exactly where they were, we said he was close to having nukes, and we said
> that they posed an imminent threat. All of that has proven to be bullshit.
> Even Colin Powell admits that his presentation to the UN was mostly false.
> Just because I don't think we broke international law, doesn't mean I think
> we were right in going to war. Invading Iraq hasn't made us any safer, isn't
> likely to create a free Iraq, and has killed damn near 800 American
> soldiers. It wasn't and isn't worth it.
we found a shell saturday in an ied. 1 of 500 unaccounted for sarin
nerve gass shells. 499 are still out there. that's called a stock
pile. funny our pals at the u.n. couldn't find unaccounted for weapons
so they assumed they didn't exist. nice.
imagine if the weapons had been hidden in california and cali was a
big combat zone. how long would it take to search cali and find
weapons that are constantly being moved. the i.r.a. kept it's weapons
staches hidden from the brits for years in a much smaller area. the
brits didn't just assume the weapons didn't exist. but if the u.n.
standard is to be applied in other areas we must assume that after 2
years there is no osama bin ladin. after all we haven't found him.
he must not exist. or maybe we should set hans blix to work on it
right away.
London Leatherboy
>how many times are we going to go through this about the weapons.
Well, I'm already counting three times just in this one thread.
Ralf #2
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London Leatherboy
<toot.po...@ts.of.the.hootin.tootin.land> wrote:
> all in all, I believe Powell a very
> principled man. I bet it sets his
> gnads on fire every time he has to
> cover for the bush administration's
> stupidity.
Damn, you might be right. But still, I will never forgive him for
turning his back on his bruthas and getting into bed with whitey!
Karl Groves
One artillery shell. Whoop-de-fuckin-doo
-Karl
Ralf Sandner
about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>> Nice way to backpedal on the "smoking gun".
>
>can you say "sarin nerve gas". they found an ied (improvised explosive
>devise) made out of 1 of 500 unaccounted for shells. so let's stop
>with the no wmd's farce.
maybe it's leftover from saddam. maybe it came from abroad. there is nor
order in iraq since the us invaded. every loony is able to enter that
country...
but when we are at it: how do YOU justify the right of the usa to posses
wmd? why do you deny that right to others?
np: Winamp stopped
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Joe Freezetag
Kurt, do you honestly think that the US is safer now that Saddam is out of
power? I don't wanna hear any crap about liberating Iraq because I don't
give a shit about them. Do you really think it was worth the hundreds of
billions we've spent or the almost 800 dead American troops it took to get
us this far? I don't, and if you do, then there's no point in arguing this
any further.
--
Joe Freezetag
Brian Baird
ka...@NOSPAMkarlcore.com says...
> > can you say "sarin nerve gas". they found an ied (improvised explosive
> > devise) made out of 1 of 500 unaccounted for shells. so let's stop
> > with the no wmd's farce.
>
> One artillery shell. Whoop-de-fuckin-doo
>
> -Karl
I don't think he could have threatened a Brooklyn street gang with that.
Go Go Goblin!
wasn't it one of those "dirty" artillery shell?
then every one within a 5 block radius
would contract treatable leukemia in 17 - 20 years.
Go Go Goblin!
> >>..Where it is nobody knows BUT even Bill Clinton and most all of the UN
> assembly have said that he did posess these weapons.<<
>
> Of course he did. We sold them to him.
>
> Doh.
>
in fact, wasn't it the first President Bush
that sold him the weapons during the Iraq/Iran
wars?
this whole war is nothing but a righteous
family vendetta.
I still wonder if Saddam had something
on the Bush family? Something some
US operatives were able to destroy
that trumped Saddam's hand?
Navy Kurt
while not ideal by any stretch of the imagination i do believe we are
safer.
Navy Kurt
> "Navy Kurt" <navy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> One artillery shell. Whoop-de-fuckin-doo
>
> -Karl
out of 500 unaccounted for.
Navy Kurt
> order in iraq since the us invaded. every loony is able to enter that
> country...
>
> but when we are at it: how do YOU justify the right of the usa to posses
> wmd? why do you deny that right to others?
>
> np: Winamp stopped
we know it came from a stockpile of 500 that was unaccounted for. we
can possess them because we won't use them wantonly and without
provocation.
Navy Kurt
> On 16 May 2004 22:55:28 -0700, navy...@yahoo.com (Navy Kurt) wrote:
>
> >how many times are we going to go through this about the weapons.
>
> Well, I'm already counting three times just in this one thread.
>
> Ralf #2
how do you say "i asked for that" in german?
Ralf Sandner
about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>we know it came from a stockpile of 500 that was unaccounted for. we
>can possess them because we won't use them wantonly and without
>provocation.
like in nagasaki? or agent orange in nam?
Ralf Sandner
about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>how do you say "i asked for that" in german?
"ich wärde diese schallplatte nicht kaufen sie ist serkratzt"
The Fiendish Plot of Fascinet
> On 17 May 2004 21:31:15 -0700, navy...@yahoo.com (Navy Kurt) wrote
> about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>
> >we know it came from a stockpile of 500 that was unaccounted for. we
> >can possess them because we won't use them wantonly and without
> >provocation.
>
> like in nagasaki? or agent orange in nam?
>
Do you like to make things easy, Ralf?
-F
Navy Kurt
> On 17 May 2004 21:33:18 -0700, navy...@yahoo.com (Navy Kurt) wrote
> about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>
> >how do you say "i asked for that" in german?
>
> "ich wärde diese schallplatte nicht kaufen sie ist serkratzt"
gesundheit!
Navy Kurt
> On 17 May 2004 21:31:15 -0700, navy...@yahoo.com (Navy Kurt) wrote
> about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>
> >we know it came from a stockpile of 500 that was unaccounted for. we
> >can possess them because we won't use them wantonly and without
> >provocation.
>
> like in nagasaki? or agent orange in nam?
nagasaki was unprovoked? and agent orange was a defoliant meant to
deny the communists at least some of their jungle coverage. calling
that a wmd is pure revisionism. it's like say use of ddt on
guadalcanal was medical experiments on g.i.s.
and as has been pointed out time and time again on this ng alone, the
use of atomic weapons on japan saved more lives than it took. the
projected casualty figure were 1,000,000 plus. this is exactly what
i'm talking about. your doubling back to an old argument that has long
since been proven false. did you think i wouldn't catch it this time
around? or maybe you thought i'd tire and not jump on it.
DuchovnySexBomb
Sandner casually replied:
> On 17 May 2004 21:31:15 -0700, navy...@yahoo.com (Navy Kurt) wrote
> about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>
>>we know it came from a stockpile of 500 that was unaccounted for. we
>>can possess them because we won't use them wantonly and without
>>provocation.
>
> like in nagasaki? or agent orange in nam?
That was the middle of a freaking war, dipshit. Not to mention over 50
years ago. I think that as a German, you'd especially appreciate how a
cold war arms race will make a country come of age when it comes to their
weaponry of choice.
- dsb
--
There are no more lessons to be learned.
Man unlearns wisdom as swiftly as he digs his own grave.
If he must dig, let him dig for himself.
I will bury the corpses....
I will bury the corpses of those that would bury mine or that of my beloved.
DuchovnySexBomb
Kurt casually replied:
Deiser Kaugummi stinkt wie Arschloche.
Ralf Sandner
Fascinet) wrote about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>> >we know it came from a stockpile of 500 that was unaccounted for. we
>> >can possess them because we won't use them wantonly and without
>> >provocation.
>>
>> like in nagasaki? or agent orange in nam?
>>
>
>Do you like to make things easy, Ralf?
well i am talking to KURT...
Ralf Sandner
<afterthe...@Mentropy.muc.muohio.edu> wrote about "Re: Colin Powell
on Meet the Press" :
>> like in nagasaki? or agent orange in nam?
>
>That was the middle of a freaking war, dipshit.
nam or nagasaki? nagasaki was at the END of the war, when it was clear
that japan would surrender.
DuchovnySexBomb
Sandner casually replied:
> On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:47:16 GMT, DuchovnySexBomb
> <afterthe...@Mentropy.muc.muohio.edu> wrote about "Re: Colin Powell
> on Meet the Press" :
>
>>> like in nagasaki? or agent orange in nam?
>>
>>That was the middle of a freaking war, dipshit.
>
> nam or nagasaki? nagasaki was at the END of the war, when it was clear
> that japan would surrender.
I was referring to the use of agent orange in Vietnam (sorry I didn't make
that clear), but as far as the two bombs went, they rather nicely ended
the war. Japan's culture didn't really promote the idea of surrender.
HRH Fascinet
-F
HRH Fascinet
> about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>
> >how do you say "i asked for that" in german?
>
> "ich wärde diese schallplatte nicht kaufen sie ist serkratzt"
>
How do you say, "bend over, sweetcheeks" in German?
-F
Ralf Sandner
wrote about "Re: Colin Powell on Meet the Press" :
>> >how do you say "i asked for that" in german?
>>
>> "ich wärde diese schallplatte nicht kaufen sie ist serkratzt"
>>
>
>How do you say, "bend over, sweetcheeks" in German?
"bück dich, du sau"