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Fangorn

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Mar 7, 2012, 7:53:07 AM3/7/12
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Hi Everyone,

I just installed Anomos on windows and tried to use it with a couple
of .torrent files, however it did'nt work.

The torrent anonymizer tracker url is set by default on
https://tracker.anomos.info:5555/announce. I tried with Tor as a proxy
address, as suggested in the settings and even without, but I keep
getting the same log messages:

...
[2012-03-07 13:44:50] Generating a new certificate
[2012-03-07 13:44:51] Generating a new certificate
[2012-03-07 13:44:52] You are trying to make an unencrypted connection
to a tracker, and this has been disabled for security reasons.
Halting.
[2012-03-07 13:44:52] You are trying to make an unencrypted connection
to a tracker, and this has been disabled for security reasons.
Halting.
...

[2012-03-07 13:44:52] Making announce to :5555
[2012-03-07 13:44:52] Warning: Will not connect to non HTTPS server
...
[2012-03-07 13:44:54] You are trying to make an unencrypted connection
to a tracker, and this has been disabled for security reasons.
Halting.
[2012-03-07 13:44:54] You are trying to make an unencrypted connection
to a tracker, and this has been disabled for security reasons.
Halting.
...
[2012-03-07 13:45:52] Making announce to :5555
[2012-03-07 13:45:52] Tracker announce still not complete 60 seconds
after starting it
[2012-03-07 13:45:52] Warning: Will not connect to non HTTPS server
[2012-03-07 13:45:52] Tracker announce still not complete 60 seconds
after starting it
...

Did someone of you using Anomos encounter the some problem?
How can I solve it?

Cashman Law Firm, PLLC

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Mar 7, 2012, 4:02:19 PM3/7/12
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Anomos has always been a difficult piece of software to run. While on
the surface it touts itself as being fully encrypted, the problem is
that OTHER USERS (perhaps any users running Anomos) are also required
to get 1) any connection, or 2) any decent speeds.

There are many ways to tweak traditional bittorrent software to use
only encrypted connections. Similarly, there are ways to use third
party software in conjunction with bittorrent software (e.g., a VPN
Proxy such as JonDo
(https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondo.html) plus Peerblock
(www.peerblock.com/). There are obviously others.

Obviously the use of any of these is not a license to do whatever you
want; it serves more as a radar detector to make it less likely that
people will not snoop on your filesharing activities.

I just didn't want you spending too much time on the Anomos software
as I once did -- I found it to be useless. My guess is that the
software is a good idea that never caught on.

-Rob

* Nothing contained herein should be considered legal advice, and no
attorney-client relationship is formed unless a fee-agreement is
signed and agreed to by both the would-be attorney and would-be
client. *

On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 04:53:07 -0800 (PST), Fangorn <fang...@yahoo.it>
wrote:

Fangorn

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Mar 8, 2012, 12:15:31 PM3/8/12
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I read about Peerblock, Vuze, Peer Guardian, PeerGuardian2 and Jap,
which are freeware, and other non-freeware solutions such as IP Hider
or BTGuard.
(By the way, I could'nt get to PG2).

I did not know what was the best choice, then I came up with Anomos
that seemed to offer the best solution, a p2p software that promises
anonymity... It seemed to me better than installing two or three
sofware for just one purpose.

Obviously, if I am unable to run Anomos and have an idea of how it
works, I will go back to other choices.

I was already oriented towards Peerblock but I never heard about JonDo
before: would you recommend to use Peerblock in conjuction with JonDo?
I mean, the one does not seem to be an alternative to the other:
Peerblock blocks ip numbers whilst JonDo is an ip changer proxy tool

Not Disclosed

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Mar 8, 2012, 12:49:08 PM3/8/12
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There is a program you can use called "PeerBlock" you can get and use it
for FREE at http://www.peerblock.com/, if you use it it BLOCKS all KNOWN
bad IP addresses (so you must keep it up to date!!!). You can also
optionality use a different program for torrents (I recommend qBitterront
available at http://www.qbittorrent.org/) if you do decide to use
qBittorrent if has the ability to filter IP's as well you just have to
update your block list every so often from another source (like searching
for the latest torrent of them using qBittorent or thepiratebay) if you do
get qBitteront you will want to install python first (in order to use the
search engines that are built in and you can add more search engines as
well). I find this to be the best route so far. you can optionaly skip
torrents alltogether and just rely on NNTP for your files... if you do
decide to do that you can use free.xsusenet.com (not much bandwith but its
free and uncensored/logged) you can also get FREE service from a site that
is translating IPv4 to IPv6 (unless your using a IPv6 capable news browser
like outlook) and you can find more info on that here... www.sixxs.net/
misc/coolstuff/ (look for the line "IPv6 Newsservers" in the page)

Fangorn

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Mar 9, 2012, 1:41:40 PM3/9/12
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I downloaded and installed PeerBlock and qBittorrent.
I noticed how many ranges are blocked by PeerBlock per minute: it's
impressive.
qBittorrent looks like utorrent, with the possibility of IP Filtering.

I wonder whether PeerBlock needs the specific block lists that are
provided by I-Blocklist or these lists are already included in
PeerBlock.

I also wonder whether I need to use IP Filtering with qBittorrent if I
already use PeerBlock.

Moreover I read in qBittorrent documentation that IP Filtering needs
block lists that end in .dat, .p2p and .p2b, while in i-Blocklist the
lists are in txt format. Where can I find lists good for qBittorrent?

Finally, Would be a good idea to make qBittorrent use the proxy
configuration offered by JonDo or Tor, for instance?

Dustin

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Mar 9, 2012, 2:38:33 PM3/9/12
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Fangorn <fang...@yahoo.it> wrote in news:623d410e-4fef-4130-9fcc-
0c71a2...@w5g2000vbv.googlegroups.com:

> I downloaded and installed PeerBlock and qBittorrent.
> I noticed how many ranges are blocked by PeerBlock per minute: it's
> impressive.
> qBittorrent looks like utorrent, with the possibility of IP Filtering.

utorrent has ip filtering too. utorrent maintains a very small footprint
and low resource usage on my machine. I've happily used it for years...
oh and it's portable.

> I wonder whether PeerBlock needs the specific block lists that are
> provided by I-Blocklist or these lists are already included in
> PeerBlock.

Peerblock works like an antivirus program in that respect. It requires
updates to the ip list. Peerblock installed with a veryoutdated list and
you always need to keep it updated for the best chance of evading
detection.

> I also wonder whether I need to use IP Filtering with qBittorrent if I
> already use PeerBlock.

You use IP filtering for ips that peerblock doesn't pickup that annoy
you. Leechers, odd looking clients.. that sort of thing.

> Finally, Would be a good idea to make qBittorrent use the proxy
> configuration offered by JonDo or Tor, for instance?

That would be a very good idea if it can.


--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts

Fangorn

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Mar 10, 2012, 11:29:18 AM3/10/12
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On Mar 9, 7:38 pm, Dustin <bughunter.dus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> utorrent has ip filtering too.

I checked but it does not look to have an ip filtering.
I have the 3.1 version and under /Options/Preferences I could not find
any ip filtering configuration... Maybe the newer version?

> utorrent maintains a very small footprint
> and low resource usage on my machine.

Yes, it's true. It's liter than qBittorrent.

Yesterday I tried qBittorrent and I noticed that leaves "not contacted
yet" lots of trackers, preferring to rely on [DHT], [PeX] and [LSD].
Anyway I downloaded a file very quickly.

Today it was stalled for 20 minutes.

>
> > I also wonder whether I need to use IP Filtering with qBittorrent if I
> > already use PeerBlock.
>
> You use IP filtering for ips that peerblock doesn't pickup that annoy
> you. Leechers, odd looking clients.. that sort of thing.
>

How can I determine whether a peer is odd looking or annoying (isn't
leecher a synonym of peer)? I am just able to see a list of connected
peers and nothing else. Some of them download or upload files, others
do not. The only thing I noticed is that for some peer my downloading
speed vary considerably, from 700 to 0 KB/s, for instance, that peer
changing 'status', from 'good' (quick downloading for me) to useless,
and then good again and so on.

Cashman Law Firm, PLLC

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Mar 10, 2012, 11:01:57 PM3/10/12
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 19:38:33 GMT, Dustin <bughunte...@gmail.com>
wrote:

...
>You use IP filtering for ips that peerblock doesn't pickup that annoy
>you. Leechers, odd looking clients.. that sort of thing.

Interesting point. I never thought of that.

>> Finally, Would be a good idea to make qBittorrent use the proxy
>> configuration offered by JonDo or Tor, for instance?
>
>That would be a very good idea if it can.

There are many security holes in porting your torrent activities
through Tor -- I am not that much of a techie, but I understand the
issue has something to do with the exit node giving away your identity
(that is how a bittorrent user using Tor can get caught). Plus, every
user manual on the topic says torrenting through Tor 1) kills the
network for everyone else, and 2) you're not protected as you think
you might be.

As for JonDo, it is a VPN proxy server (perhaps like any other). When
you use the free services (be careful which free servers you are
routing to -- some track your information [Dresdin, I think], others
don't), the connections are slower (practically unusable UNLESS you're
just trying to anonymize your headers when connecting to other peers
in a bittorrent swarm). If you use a paid account (it is anonymous,
and also allows you to port all of your internet activity (not only
bittorrent) through their VPN [including anonymizing your activities,
which is fully useful when doing work at Starbucks or in a public
location]), your connection will be significantly faster.

Again, with a paid account, you can technically port all your activity
through JonDo, and you get significantly higher transfer speeds. As
far as I know it is anonymous and as safe as one can be.

If anyone has other suggestions as to how to further anonymize one's
activities, I'm always interested in hearing it. I'm still trying to
figure out the ramifications and security implications of using the
big U.

Not Disclosed

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Mar 11, 2012, 12:26:28 AM3/11/12
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yes it has filtering and yes you can convert text filters to any of the
formats qBitterent uses, also you can use any of a number of IP filter
updater's to get updated filters for it(including the utorrent filter
updater) yes it does seem to be a bit flaky on the up/download speeds at
times but if you want you can get a copy of the source code and tweak it
to your hearts content as it is open source. Yes there programs you may
like better, but its what I use and I am not twisting your arm. And if you
go into the settings you can change any of a number things that will allow
you to control things like DHT, PeX, and Strict super seeding (the latter
is in the Advanced settings section) as is also the spoof your IP address
setting. I also like that it is FULLY IPv6 Compliant (no more mucking
around with routers and network settings). I do NOT recommend using Tor or
any Proxy for tour torrents it makes the whole thing as slow as clod
molasses going up hill in January in Alaska look fast... also any FREE
proxy... there probably "honey pots" they set up shop and announce that
HEY you can be anonymous by using US to proxy your traffic! then they
proceed to log every packet that you transfer who you transfer it from and
to and in some cases log your keystrokes as well... so NO PROXY for me!
However if you incest on using a proxy, find one in a country that dos NOT
censor, and one that is NOT on any of the following
domains... .US, .COM, .ORG, .NET, .CC, or ANY territory of the US!
otherwise they CAN (and probably will) seize it ant any time they like and
forensically analyse it to death (or set up a fake in its place while they
analyse the traffic patterns and usage buy whom and for what. I can also
very strongly recommend using Zone Alarm to prevent any unauthorized
outgoing traffic as there are now so many file types that can be executed
(or run if you will) on a computer now a days. (see partial list below)...

An Incomplete List of Executable File Extensions...

Warning Take great care when opening executable file formats received via
email or downloaded from websites you're not familiar with. See my List of
Executable File Extensions for a listing of file extensions to avoid and
why.

A file with an executable file extension means that the file format
supports some ability to run additional automatic tasks. This means that
if you open a file with one of these file extensions, your Windows PC
could, without your continued permission, run any number of additional
operations programmed into that file.

Those operations could be welcome if you were to run a program setup for a
software application you just downloaded. Those operations could be
damaging if you were to run a virus infected executable file attached to
an email from an unknown source.

You should always avoid opening executable files from suspicious emails,
websites, or torrents. Even if you are very comfortable about the source
of an executable file, you should always exercise caution and common sense
before opening.

Below is an incomplete list of executable file extensions. If you know of
more, please let me know and I'll update this information.

A6P: Authorware 6 Program, AC: Autoconfig Script,
AS: Adobe Flash ActionScript File, ACR: ACRobot Script,
ACTION: Automator Action, AIR: Adobe AIR Installation Package,
APP: FoxPro Generated Application, APP: Symbian OS Application,
AWK: AWK Script, BAT: Batch File, CGI: Common Gateway Interface Script,
CMD: Windows Command, COM: DOS Command File, CSH: C Shell Script,
DEK: Eavesdropper Batch File, DLD: EdLog Compiled Program,
DS: TWAIN Data Source, EBM: EXTRA! Basic Macro,
ESH: Extended Shell Batch File, EXE: Windows Executable File,
EZS: EZ-R Stats Batch Script, FKY: FoxPro Macro,
FRS: Flash Renamer Script, FXP: FoxPro Compiled Source,
GADGET: Windows Gadget, HMS: HostMonitor Script File,
HTA: HTML Application, ICD: SafeDisc Encrypted Program,
INX: Compiled Script, IPF: SMS Installer Script,
ISU: InstallShield Uninstaller Script, JAR: Java Archive File,
JS: JScript Executable Script, JSE: JScript Encoded File,
JSX: ExtendScript Script File, KIX: KiXtart Script File,
LUA: Lua Scripting File, MCR: 3ds Max Macroscript File,
MEM: Macro Editor Macro, MPX: FoxPro Compiled Menu Program,
MS: 3ds Max Script File, MSI: Windows Installer File,
MST: Windows SDK Setup Transform Script, OBS: ObjectScript Script File,
PAF: Portable Application Installer File, PEX: ProBoard Executable File,
PIF: Program Information File, PRC: Palm Resource Code File,
PRG: Generica Program File, PVD: Instalit Script, PWC: PictureTaker File,
PY: Python Script, PYC: Python Compiled File, PYO: Python Optimized Code,
QPX: FoxPro Compiled Query Program, RBX: Rembo-C Compiled Script,
REG: Registry Data File, RGS: Registry Script,
ROX: Actuate Report Object Executable File, RPJ: Real Pac Batch Job File,
SCAR: SCAR Script, SCR: Script File, SCRIPT: Generic Script File,
SCT: Windows Script Component, SHB: Windows Shortcut into a Document,
SHS: Shell Scrap Object File, SPR: FoxPro Generated Screen File,
TLB: OLE Type Library, TMS: Telemate Script, U3P: U3 Smart Application,
UDF: Excel User Defined Function, VB: VBScript File,
VBE: VBScript Encoded Script File, VBS: VBScript File,
VBSCRIPT: Visual Basic Script, WCM: WordPerfect Macro,
WPK: WordPerfect Macro, WS: Windows Script, WSF: Windows Script File,
XQT: SuperCalc Macro File

and remember that many of these file types can be embedded into other
files like documents, .PDF's and many other file types... so remember have
a GOOD virus scanner (or 2 or 3)!!!

Dustin

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Mar 11, 2012, 2:16:32 PM3/11/12
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Fangorn <fang...@yahoo.it> wrote in
news:3313df84-7aad-4be0...@p12g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

> On Mar 9, 7:38 pm, Dustin <bughunter.dus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> utorrent has ip filtering too.
>
> I checked but it does not look to have an ip filtering.
> I have the 3.1 version and under /Options/Preferences I could not
> find any ip filtering configuration... Maybe the newer version?

LOL. Ipblocking has been in v1.8x atleast.

http://digiex.net/guides-reviews/guides-tutorials/application-
guides/937-enable-update-ip-filter-block-list-utorrent-ipfilter-dat.html

It's easy to use. You turn it on in advanced settings and edit the
ipfilter.dat yourself. Put it in the same folder as utorrent.exe

>> You use IP filtering for ips that peerblock doesn't pickup that
>> annoy you. Leechers, odd looking clients.. that sort of thing.
>>
>
> How can I determine whether a peer is odd looking or annoying (isn't
> leecher a synonym of peer)? I am just able to see a list of connected

No. A leecher is a peer who doesn't share with others. They take and
take but give nothing in return.

> peers and nothing else. Some of them download or upload files, others
> do not. The only thing I noticed is that for some peer my downloading
> speed vary considerably, from 700 to 0 KB/s, for instance, that peer
> changing 'status', from 'good' (quick downloading for me) to useless,
> and then good again and so on.

Peers that download without contributing are not going to seed and
aren't helping the swarm.

Dustin

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Mar 11, 2012, 2:21:34 PM3/11/12
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"Cashman Law Firm, PLLC" <arti...@cashmanlawfirm.com> wrote in
news:t88ol7t5t6ej2lquu...@4ax.com:

> There are many security holes in porting your torrent activities
> through Tor -- I am not that much of a techie, but I understand the
> issue has something to do with the exit node giving away your identity
> (that is how a bittorrent user using Tor can get caught). Plus, every
> user manual on the topic says torrenting through Tor 1) kills the
> network for everyone else, and 2) you're not protected as you think
> you might be.

I'll have to check into this more. I understand potential issues with
using Tor, but I don't see how it's giving your real IP away when you
use it. It's a giant anonymous network. If you run Tor and provide a
node, I think? this scenario could play out if someone torrented a
copywronged file and your IP was listed (only because your the exit
node)?

> bittorrent) through their VPN [including anonymizing your activities,
> which is fully useful when doing work at Starbucks or in a public
> location]), your connection will be significantly faster.

Speed always plays a role for the swarm. Especially if your the first
seed. :)

> Again, with a paid account, you can technically port all your activity
> through JonDo, and you get significantly higher transfer speeds. As
> far as I know it is anonymous and as safe as one can be.

Are you using a prepaid throw away visa or something as a buffer?

What happens if their financial records get seized?

Fangorn

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Mar 12, 2012, 9:45:40 AM3/12/12
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Dustin wrote:

> LOL. Ipblocking has been in v1.8x atleast.
>
> http://digiex.net/guides-reviews/guides-tutorials/application-
> guides/937-enable-update-ip-filter-block-list-utorrent-ipfilter-dat.html

> It's easy to use. You turn it on in advanced settings and edit the
> ipfilter.dat yourself.

Done. I downloaded the uploader and updated ipfilter.dat. Thanks ;]

Yes, it's easy to use, but I would be still unable to edit the file
myself, because I still have to understand how can I unmask a leecher.

That would be useful, but observing my behaviour, which is determined
by utorrent default setting, at present I'm seeding 7 files while 48
are queued seeds. Am I a leecher then for those who are downloading
those 48 files?


As for qBittorrent, I still have to understand how to convert text
filters to any of the
formats qBitterent uses.

p.s. while I was connecting to www.zonealarm.com, PeerBlock blocked
Zone Labs, Inc. I was able to get to their website only using Tor
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