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Another Obama Lecture - This time the former president suggests he was too nice.
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Ubiquitous
Nov 17, 2020, 12:38:50 PM11/17/20
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Former President Barack Obama, who presided over historic abuses of
presidency surveillance powers, is as soon as once more attacking one
of many principal targets. 4 years after the Obama Justice Division
misled a federal court docket into approving a surveillance warrant
towards a Trump marketing campaign affiliate, Mr. Obama is evaluating
President Donald Trump to a murderous dictator.
Requested in a Sunday interview for the CBS Information program "60
Minutes" about Mr. Trump's claims of voter fraud within the current
election, Mr. Obama responded:
The president doesn't prefer to lose and- by no means admits
loss. I'm extra troubled by the truth that different Republican
officers who clearly know higher are going together with this,
are humoring him on this vogue. It's yet one more step in
delegitimizing not simply the incoming Biden administration,
however democracy usually. I believe that there was this sense
during the last a number of years that actually something goes
and is justified as a way to get energy. And that's not
distinctive to the USA. There are sturdy males and dictators
all over the world who assume that, "I can do something to
remain in energy. I can kill folks. I can throw them in jail.
I can run phony elections. I can suppress journalists."
However that's not who we're presupposed to be.
No matter one thinks of Mr. Trump's claims-or Mr. Obama's over-the-top
comparability to dictators-Mr. Pelley has chosen one in every of
America's least credible advocates for presidential restraint.
Bradford Betz of Fox Information fairly notes:
.Obama's time in workplace was not at all the paragon of a
presidency sure by the principles of a liberal democratic
republic. Court docket paperwork launched in early 2013
confirmed that the Obama administration secretly monitored
Fox Information' James Rosen - whom the FBI dubbed a "felony
co-conspirator," regardless of by no means being charged with
a criminal offense.
Although Trump has been forceful in his denunciation of the
press, the Obama administration arguably went additional,
evoking the Espionage Act to prosecute extra folks underneath
the legislation for leaking delicate info than all earlier
administrations mixed.
As a part of an investigation into the disclosure of details
about a botched Al Qaeda terrorist plot, the Obama
administration, with out discover, obtained the data of 20
Related Press workplace cellphone strains and reviews'
residence and cell telephones.
Early in Mr. Obama's second time period the AP reported:
The Justice Division secretly obtained two months of phone
data of reporters and editors for the Related Press in what
the information cooperative's high government known as a
"large and unprecedented intrusion" into how information
organizations collect the information.
Talking of large and unprecedented intrusions and makes an attempt to
delegitimize a presidential administration, it was 4 years in the past
this month that the Obama FBI fired Christopher Steele as a
confidential supply for trigger, discovered new causes to doubt his
reviews, and likewise discovered that he was engaged on behalf of the
Hillary Clinton marketing campaign-but _nonetheless_ continued to
advertise his bogus claims of Russian collusion.
However now Mr. Pelley of CBS presents Mr. Obama as a gracious
predecessor. The robust interrogator from CBS even presses Mr. Obama,
who's publishing his newest autobiography, to concede that he might
have been too form to political opponents. Right here's the CBS
transcript:
Scott Pelley: In your e-book, you ask, quote, "Whether or
not I used to be too tempered in talking the reality, too
cautious in phrase or deed." Many Individuals, Mr. President,
imagine you had been too cautious, too tempered.
Barack Obama: Yeah. a reputable and comprehensible criticism.
On the finish of the day, I persistently tried to deal with
my political opposition within the methods I'd wish to be
handled, To not overreact when, for instance, someone yells,
"You lie," in the midst of me giving a joint congressional
handle.
Barack Obama: I perceive why there have been instances the
place my supporters needed me to be extra pugilistic, to, you
already know, pop people within the head and duke it out a bit
of bit extra.
Scott Pelley: Was it a mistake that you simply didn't?
Barack Obama: Each president brings a sure temperament to
workplace. I believe a part of the explanation I received
elected was as a result of I despatched a message that
basically I imagine the American individuals are good and
respectable, and that politics doesn't should be some cage
match in- through which all people is- goes at one another's
throats and that we will agree with out being unpleasant.
What a man.
As for Mr. Pelley, readers might recall him because the writer of a
bizarre commentary in 2017 when he was making ready to vacate the CBS
Information nightly anchor chair. After a gunman shot at Republicans
training for a congressional baseball sport, Mr. Pelley said it was
"time to ask" whether or not the assault was "to some extent, self-
inflicted."
Now Mr. Pelley is making one other odd declare:
Mr. Obama is talking after 4 years of digital silence on
Donald Trump. He adopted a conventional commandment largely
noticed since Adams succeeded Washington -thou shall not
criticize your successor.
In fact America would have been higher off if Mr. Obama had adopted the
time-honored commandment to keep away from surveilling your successor's
marketing campaign. However even on its face the Pelley declare is
questionable. Mr. Obama publicly criticized his successor inside 10
days of Mr. Trump's inauguration. Extra just lately, Mr. Obama
lambasted Mr. Trump on the digital Democratic conference in August, and
at varied stops alongside the autumn marketing campaign path. Mr.
Pelley's personal community reported last month on a speech through
which "Mr. Obama delivered a sweeping condemnation of Trump".
***
The Obama administration represented a break with custom by way of
federal legislation enforcement's relationship with politics and the
press. However even Individuals who don't take part in Republican
campaigns or work in media could also be involved about their free
speech rights after they ponder Mr. Obama's newest concepts for
bettering public discourse. The previous President advised Mr. Pelley:
I do assume {that a} new president can set a brand new tone.
That's not going to resolve all of the gridlock in Washington.
I believe we're going to should work with the media and with
the tech firms to search out methods to tell the general
public higher concerning the points and to bolster the
requirements that guarantee we will separate reality from
fiction.
: Mr. Freeman is the co-author of "The Cost: Trump, China
: and American Revival."
--
"We have put together, I think, the most extensive and and inclusive
voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
- Joe Biden
#StopTheSteal
presidency surveillance powers, is as soon as once more attacking one
of many principal targets. 4 years after the Obama Justice Division
misled a federal court docket into approving a surveillance warrant
towards a Trump marketing campaign affiliate, Mr. Obama is evaluating
President Donald Trump to a murderous dictator.
Requested in a Sunday interview for the CBS Information program "60
Minutes" about Mr. Trump's claims of voter fraud within the current
election, Mr. Obama responded:
The president doesn't prefer to lose and- by no means admits
loss. I'm extra troubled by the truth that different Republican
officers who clearly know higher are going together with this,
are humoring him on this vogue. It's yet one more step in
delegitimizing not simply the incoming Biden administration,
however democracy usually. I believe that there was this sense
during the last a number of years that actually something goes
and is justified as a way to get energy. And that's not
distinctive to the USA. There are sturdy males and dictators
all over the world who assume that, "I can do something to
remain in energy. I can kill folks. I can throw them in jail.
I can run phony elections. I can suppress journalists."
However that's not who we're presupposed to be.
No matter one thinks of Mr. Trump's claims-or Mr. Obama's over-the-top
comparability to dictators-Mr. Pelley has chosen one in every of
America's least credible advocates for presidential restraint.
Bradford Betz of Fox Information fairly notes:
.Obama's time in workplace was not at all the paragon of a
presidency sure by the principles of a liberal democratic
republic. Court docket paperwork launched in early 2013
confirmed that the Obama administration secretly monitored
Fox Information' James Rosen - whom the FBI dubbed a "felony
co-conspirator," regardless of by no means being charged with
a criminal offense.
Although Trump has been forceful in his denunciation of the
press, the Obama administration arguably went additional,
evoking the Espionage Act to prosecute extra folks underneath
the legislation for leaking delicate info than all earlier
administrations mixed.
As a part of an investigation into the disclosure of details
about a botched Al Qaeda terrorist plot, the Obama
administration, with out discover, obtained the data of 20
Related Press workplace cellphone strains and reviews'
residence and cell telephones.
Early in Mr. Obama's second time period the AP reported:
The Justice Division secretly obtained two months of phone
data of reporters and editors for the Related Press in what
the information cooperative's high government known as a
"large and unprecedented intrusion" into how information
organizations collect the information.
Talking of large and unprecedented intrusions and makes an attempt to
delegitimize a presidential administration, it was 4 years in the past
this month that the Obama FBI fired Christopher Steele as a
confidential supply for trigger, discovered new causes to doubt his
reviews, and likewise discovered that he was engaged on behalf of the
Hillary Clinton marketing campaign-but _nonetheless_ continued to
advertise his bogus claims of Russian collusion.
However now Mr. Pelley of CBS presents Mr. Obama as a gracious
predecessor. The robust interrogator from CBS even presses Mr. Obama,
who's publishing his newest autobiography, to concede that he might
have been too form to political opponents. Right here's the CBS
transcript:
Scott Pelley: In your e-book, you ask, quote, "Whether or
not I used to be too tempered in talking the reality, too
cautious in phrase or deed." Many Individuals, Mr. President,
imagine you had been too cautious, too tempered.
Barack Obama: Yeah. a reputable and comprehensible criticism.
On the finish of the day, I persistently tried to deal with
my political opposition within the methods I'd wish to be
handled, To not overreact when, for instance, someone yells,
"You lie," in the midst of me giving a joint congressional
handle.
Barack Obama: I perceive why there have been instances the
place my supporters needed me to be extra pugilistic, to, you
already know, pop people within the head and duke it out a bit
of bit extra.
Scott Pelley: Was it a mistake that you simply didn't?
Barack Obama: Each president brings a sure temperament to
workplace. I believe a part of the explanation I received
elected was as a result of I despatched a message that
basically I imagine the American individuals are good and
respectable, and that politics doesn't should be some cage
match in- through which all people is- goes at one another's
throats and that we will agree with out being unpleasant.
What a man.
As for Mr. Pelley, readers might recall him because the writer of a
bizarre commentary in 2017 when he was making ready to vacate the CBS
Information nightly anchor chair. After a gunman shot at Republicans
training for a congressional baseball sport, Mr. Pelley said it was
"time to ask" whether or not the assault was "to some extent, self-
inflicted."
Now Mr. Pelley is making one other odd declare:
Mr. Obama is talking after 4 years of digital silence on
Donald Trump. He adopted a conventional commandment largely
noticed since Adams succeeded Washington -thou shall not
criticize your successor.
In fact America would have been higher off if Mr. Obama had adopted the
time-honored commandment to keep away from surveilling your successor's
marketing campaign. However even on its face the Pelley declare is
questionable. Mr. Obama publicly criticized his successor inside 10
days of Mr. Trump's inauguration. Extra just lately, Mr. Obama
lambasted Mr. Trump on the digital Democratic conference in August, and
at varied stops alongside the autumn marketing campaign path. Mr.
Pelley's personal community reported last month on a speech through
which "Mr. Obama delivered a sweeping condemnation of Trump".
***
The Obama administration represented a break with custom by way of
federal legislation enforcement's relationship with politics and the
press. However even Individuals who don't take part in Republican
campaigns or work in media could also be involved about their free
speech rights after they ponder Mr. Obama's newest concepts for
bettering public discourse. The previous President advised Mr. Pelley:
I do assume {that a} new president can set a brand new tone.
That's not going to resolve all of the gridlock in Washington.
I believe we're going to should work with the media and with
the tech firms to search out methods to tell the general
public higher concerning the points and to bolster the
requirements that guarantee we will separate reality from
fiction.
: Mr. Freeman is the co-author of "The Cost: Trump, China
: and American Revival."
--
"We have put together, I think, the most extensive and and inclusive
voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
- Joe Biden
#StopTheSteal
Rhino
Nov 17, 2020, 3:41:13 PM11/17/20
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On 2020-11-16 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> Former President Barack Obama, who presided over historic abuses of
> presidency surveillance powers, is as soon as once more attacking one
> of many principal targets. 4 years after the Obama Justice Division
> misled a federal court docket into approving a surveillance warrant
> towards a Trump marketing campaign affiliate, Mr. Obama is evaluating
> President Donald Trump to a murderous dictator.
>
> Requested in a Sunday interview for the CBS Information program "60
> Minutes" about Mr. Trump's claims of voter fraud within the current
> election, Mr. Obama responded:
>
> The president doesn't prefer to lose and- by no means admits
> loss. I'm extra troubled by the truth that different Republican
> officers who clearly know higher are going together with this,
> are humoring him on this vogue. It's yet one more step in
> delegitimizing not simply the incoming Biden administration,
> however democracy usually. I believe that there was this sense
> during the last a number of years that actually something goes
> and is justified as a way to get energy. And that's not
> distinctive to the USA. There are sturdy males and dictators
> all over the world who assume that, "I can do something to
> remain in energy. I can kill folks. I can throw them in jail.
> I can run phony elections. I can suppress journalists."
> However that's not who we're presupposed to be.
>
I don't know who wrote what purports to be Obama's remarks but I have
> Former President Barack Obama, who presided over historic abuses of
> presidency surveillance powers, is as soon as once more attacking one
> of many principal targets. 4 years after the Obama Justice Division
> misled a federal court docket into approving a surveillance warrant
> towards a Trump marketing campaign affiliate, Mr. Obama is evaluating
> President Donald Trump to a murderous dictator.
>
> Requested in a Sunday interview for the CBS Information program "60
> Minutes" about Mr. Trump's claims of voter fraud within the current
> election, Mr. Obama responded:
>
> The president doesn't prefer to lose and- by no means admits
> loss. I'm extra troubled by the truth that different Republican
> officers who clearly know higher are going together with this,
> are humoring him on this vogue. It's yet one more step in
> delegitimizing not simply the incoming Biden administration,
> however democracy usually. I believe that there was this sense
> during the last a number of years that actually something goes
> and is justified as a way to get energy. And that's not
> distinctive to the USA. There are sturdy males and dictators
> all over the world who assume that, "I can do something to
> remain in energy. I can kill folks. I can throw them in jail.
> I can run phony elections. I can suppress journalists."
> However that's not who we're presupposed to be.
>
trouble imagining that HE did. The weird phraseology reads like a Google
Translation from English to a foreign language and then back to English.
Examples: "humoring him on the vogue"
"delegitimizing ..., however democracy usually"
"remain in energy"
"that's not who we're PRESUPPOSED to be"
> No matter one thinks of Mr. Trump's claims-or Mr. Obama's over-the-top
> comparability to dictators-Mr. Pelley has chosen one in every of
> America's least credible advocates for presidential restraint.
>
article is off, not just the Obama quote.
> Bradford Betz of Fox Information fairly notes:
>
> .Obama's time in workplace was not at all the paragon of a
> presidency sure by the principles of a liberal democratic
> republic. Court docket paperwork launched in early 2013
> confirmed that the Obama administration secretly monitored
> Fox Information' James Rosen - whom the FBI dubbed a "felony
> co-conspirator," regardless of by no means being charged with
> a criminal offense.
>
> Although Trump has been forceful in his denunciation of the
> press, the Obama administration arguably went additional,
> evoking the Espionage Act to prosecute extra folks underneath
> the legislation for leaking delicate info than all earlier
> administrations mixed.
>
> As a part of an investigation into the disclosure of details
> about a botched Al Qaeda terrorist plot, the Obama
> administration, with out discover, obtained the data of 20
> Related Press workplace cellphone strains and reviews'
> residence and cell telephones.
>
> Early in Mr. Obama's second time period the AP reported:
>
> The Justice Division secretly obtained two months of phone
> data of reporters and editors for the Related Press in what
> the information cooperative's high government known as a
> "large and unprecedented intrusion" into how information
> organizations collect the information.
>
I've never heard of an organization called "Related Press".
> Early in Mr. Obama's second time period the AP reported:
>
> The Justice Division secretly obtained two months of phone
> data of reporters and editors for the Related Press in what
> the information cooperative's high government known as a
> "large and unprecedented intrusion" into how information
> organizations collect the information.
>
> Talking of large and unprecedented intrusions and makes an attempt to
> delegitimize a presidential administration, it was 4 years in the past
> this month that the Obama FBI fired Christopher Steele as a
> confidential supply for trigger, discovered new causes to doubt his
> reviews, and likewise discovered that he was engaged on behalf of the
> Hillary Clinton marketing campaign-but _nonetheless_ continued to
> advertise his bogus claims of Russian collusion.
>
> However now Mr. Pelley of CBS presents Mr. Obama as a gracious
> predecessor. The robust interrogator from CBS even presses Mr. Obama,
> who's publishing his newest autobiography, to concede that he might
> have been too form
the subject line asserts he was too nice, not too firm. This makes no
sense.
> to political opponents. Right here's the CBS
> transcript:
>
> Scott Pelley: In your e-book, you ask, quote, "Whether or
> not I used to be too tempered in talking the reality, too
> cautious in phrase or deed." Many Individuals, Mr. President,
> imagine you had been too cautious, too tempered.
>
> Barack Obama: Yeah. a reputable and comprehensible criticism.
> On the finish of the day, I persistently tried to deal with
> my political opposition within the methods I'd wish to be
> handled, To not overreact when, for instance, someone yells,
> "You lie," in the midst of me giving a joint congressional
> handle.
>
> Barack Obama: I perceive why there have been instances the
> place my supporters needed me to be extra pugilistic, to, you
> already know, pop people within the head and duke it out a bit
> of bit extra.
>
"Pop people within the head"???
> Barack Obama: I perceive why there have been instances the
> place my supporters needed me to be extra pugilistic, to, you
> already know, pop people within the head and duke it out a bit
> of bit extra.
>
> Scott Pelley: Was it a mistake that you simply didn't?
>
> Barack Obama: Each president brings a sure temperament to
> workplace. I believe a part of the explanation I received
> elected was as a result of I despatched a message that
> basically I imagine the American individuals are good and
> respectable, and that politics doesn't should be some cage
> match in- through which all people is- goes at one another's
> throats and that we will agree with out being unpleasant.
>
> What a man.
>
might have been perfectly coherent but it's been altered in such a way
as to greatly undermine its credibility as real journalism. Or maybe
someone's trying to avoid a claim of copyright infringement by not
citing the actual article but instead double-translating it?
Rhino
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