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Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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"Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.

So that you could see that which I wrote. IN context.

* * * * * * * * * *
From: Craig Chilton
Date: Fri, Jul 3 1998 12:00 am
Email: (Current): <xana...@mchsi.com>
Subject header: Sex outside of marriage is a sin.
Groups: alt.abortion, alt.abortion.inequity, alt.christnet,
alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now,
alt.fan.jesus-christ,alt.religion.christian.episcopal,
alt.religion.christian.lutheran, alt.support.abortion

<E-mail addresses below were loused
up by Google, so I've omitted them.>

On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:10:20 -0400, Farookh wrote:
> Craig Chilton wrote:
>> Theodore M. Seeber wrote:
>>> Craig Chilton wrote:
>>>> Theodore M. Seeber wrote:

>>>>> I'll go a step further back. It's selfishness to have sex
>>>>> when you don't want a child.

>>>> A totally unrealistic attitude.

>>> Only for people who have no self control.

>> Self-control applies to actions that people may be tempted
>> to take, but really don't want to do. Such as eating a sundae
>> while on a strict diet. If enjoying recreational sex is a self-control
>> issue for some people, I'm very glad NOT to number among them.

> In some ways it is a matter of self-control. Eating a sundae
> while you're on a diet is giving in to temptation, where the
> consequences are something you'd rather not deal with. Same
> with recreational sex. Temptation... (maybe) consequences
> you'd rather avoid.

Life without a bit of living on the edge would be akin to
television programming if the likes of Donald Wildmon and his
scissors-happy American Family Association ever got its way
with it (Perish forbid!!!): Pablum.

People who live TOTALLY sheltered lives from all risks probably
deserve the boring existence they have in return. (Or, as a button I
once saw, read: "Chastity is its own punishment!) :)

To each his own, of course, but for me, VIVA *safe* recreational
sex. Some risks, but at an acceptable level.

>>>> Sex is the world's favorite form of recreation.

> I thought that was soccer? :-)

SCARILY, you may be RIGHT... at least among soccer fans. Seems
that a poll of MEN was taken lately (caveat: I have no idea how
reliably), and 80% polled said that... GET THIS... they would PREFER
to WATCH (not play... only watch) World Cup Soccer if given THE
CHOICE between that, and a having a DATE on which they could do
ANYTHING THEY WANTED with the GIRL OF THEIR DREAMS. 80% !!!!!!

I found that to be utterly incomprehensible! I mean, I KNOW that
I'm not really a fan of any sports, but how could ANY guy (assuming
he's heterosexual) choose watching *any* GAME over such a DREAM
date??!

Gals... if men are really coming to that, romance is dead!

The GOOD news: If a larger percentage of women ARE themselves
romantic, then the 20% of us GUYS who are romantic have a better shot
at finding Miss Right. (For whom I happen still to be looking, BTW.) :)

<snip>

> Abstinence is not a religious issue (at least not for me).

Nor for me.

> It's a safety and self-respect issue. Of course, I don't mean
> to say that everyone who has sex has no self-respect...

I'd HOPE not! I certainly know that *I* have no such problem!

> ...but *I* respect *myself* more for being able to wait.

To each his own. If that works for you, go for it.

> Some people see sex as a neutral, just-for-fun activity; I see
> it as more.

It can be... but it doesn't HAVE to be.

>>> Perhaps you need to take a closer look at the ability of the human
>>> mind and the value of sexual deprivation to spirituality.

>> I don't see your point with the former. As for the latter, I
>> cannot even imagine there being any "spiritual" value to be derived
>> from going without sex. As I see it, there is NOTHING positive or
>> beneficial about going without sex -- spiritual or otherwise.

> I disagree. I feel that my decision to remain abstinent has been very
> beneficial on an emotional level.

Been there. Done that. Was abstinent until age 25. Wished
afterward that I hadn't totally blown all the great opportunities I'd
had between 15 and 25 !! I'll never make THAT mistake again,
thank you!

> At the very least, I am able to avoid conflicts that occur when two
> people have different ideas about sex; ideas that don't surface until
> after the fact. As I said, for some, sex is just fun... for me it's not that s
> simple.

>>> To draw on a completely different tradition for a second, Zen
>>> Buddhism asks monks to be celebate on their journey to enlighten-
>>> ment for a reason. Perhaps if our society was not quite as sexually-
>>> oriented, we'd have fewer problems with sexual deviancy.

>> Remind me never to become a Zen Buddhist monk! :)

> Me neither. I'd hate to shave my head, and those orange robes...
> not my colour.

LOL !! Mine, either!

>> As for sexual "deviancy??" Among consenting adults, no such thing
>> exists. What they choose to do together is absolutely NO one else's
>> business
.
> Or what they choose to do by themselves. Hee hee.

LOL ! Whichever!

> Lisa D.

. + . + . . * + . . *
. +
. * . . . + . .
*
. . + . . God created too wonderful a universe . +
. ~
. + . for us not to be respectful of each other's rights .
. . . . + . + . * .
. . + . + . . <See Matt. 22:37-40 - KJV> . . *
* . . * + . . .
+ + . ~ +
. + . + . Craig + . .
+
. . + . . . + .
* . + . . + . * . *
. *

* * * * * * * * * *

I could have written that yesterday. I wouldn't change a
single word of it, here in 2006!

-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>

rbw...@juno.com

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You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God wrote more
than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Robert B. Winn

Paul Anderson

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On 28 Jun 2006 04:52:49 -0700, rbw...@juno.com wrote:
.....

>You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God wrote more
>than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not commit adultery.

www.m-w.com: adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married
man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and
someone other than her husband; also : an act of adultery.

The 3000 year old Commandment is *only* against violating the marriage
vows to cleave only unto each other. The Commandment is not against
unmarried persons screwing each other as much as they wish.

G-Net

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<rbw...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1151495569.2...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

That's no surprise since most of these abortion promoters think that they
are better, smarter, and more intelligent than God IF they even believe
there is a God. It's quite laughable really...


Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 28 Jun 2006 04:52:49 -0700,

>>>>>> A totally unrealistic attitude.

>> Nor for me.

>> LOL !! Mine, either!

>> LOL ! Whichever!

>> Lisa D.

There you go again, Winn -- proving to everyone just how
profoundly IGNORANT you are.

Adultery exists ONLY when at least one partner is *married*
to someone OTHER than the person with whom he/she is having
sex. NO such scenario was presented, above. Grow a brain,
Winn!


-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>

BOB

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"G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:9Vuog.8973$Tk.7592@trnddc08:

Yes, your phony "belief" in some mythical "god" that you cannot prove
exists (or ever existed) is quite laughable, G-String.

>
>

--sexkitten--

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Which still means married, which means he's still OK.
From the dictionary YOU use:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=adultery
Main Entry: adul·tery
Pronunciation: &-'d&l-t(&-)rE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ter·ies
Etymology: Middle English, alteration of avoutrie, from Middle French,
from Latin adulterium, from adulter adulterer, back-formation from
adulterare


: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man and someone other
than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband

--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and marital rape convictions:
1126361838.764032.231...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
As I said, the marriage agreement includes reasonable expectation of
sexual exchange. This is why John Bobbitt never did a day of time in
the slam for "marital rape" while his crazy wife ended up in a mental
facility.

"Marital rape" is a crime in all fifty states (since 1993), as is
prostitution. The difference is that no one is ever convicted of it.

She was then shown an article on a convicted marital rapist....

1126754651.184485.72...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The reason there is only one marital rape
conviction in the entire country right now (from Nebraska no less,
where even consenting wives are considered rape victims) is because the
marriage vow "I promise to love you" doesn't mean "I promise to say I
love you".

She was then shown SEVERAL articles on several marital rape convictions.....

1126802761.173860.316...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
I wouldn't refer to anyone in that article except for the children as
"victims." Maybe to you, everyone is a victim, but a woman who
deliberately marries an abusive man and then lets him in the house is
not a victim.
1126850910.636846.121...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In case you missed my subtle, unspoken point, it is that many women are
devious, backstabbing succubi; entrapment and false rape charges are
just two of their many sick games.
1126926843.336393.273...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>Rape is still not OK under any
> circumstances.
Neither is falsely accusing your husband of raping you, and neither is
marrying a man and then refusing to put out.
1126982127.985900.178...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
SO when you deliberately take your clothes off for a rapist, it goes
against all common sense. A lot of things can be read into the action
by the courts and the rapists. You make yourself into a victim on
purpose.

JohnN

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Too bad your God can't/won't enforce that law isn't it. Sorry excuse
for a deity
Don't get no respect, no respect I tell ya.

JohnN

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:49:09 GMT,
"G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net> wrote:

>>>>>>> A totally unrealistic attitude.

>>> <snip>

>>> Nor for me.

>>>> not that simple.

>>> LOL !! Mine, either!

>>> LOL ! Whichever!

>>>> Lisa D.

> That's no surprise since most of these abortion promoters...

SHOW us an abortion "promoter." Cite ANY example of any
person's or even any abortion *clinic's* EVER trying to tell a woman
that she should AVOID carrying to term... the way that the PHONY
"free-pregnancy-test" so-called "clinics" of ANTI-Choice tell those
who come into THEIR establishments to AVOID *abortion.*

[[[ READERS: Another term that fits Anti-Choicers/RRR Cultists
like a glove would be: "LIES-R-Us." ]]]

The single abortion clinic that the Anti-Choicer's have been most
RABID about (and the most unable to affect!) is that of Dr. Tiller,
in Wichita, Kansas. For the readers to see just how BIG a **liar**
YOU are, they need only to read THIS, on his website:

http://www.drtiller.com/bk1.html

Even though the State of Kansas requires him to provide that
information to prospective patients who come to him, in booklet
form, it's interesting that he is SO forthcoming and honest, that he
has elected to make it available on his website -- which was NOT
a state requirement. (SOME "abortion-promoter," huh?)

PRO-Choicers **entirely** DEFEND the right of ALL girls and
women to freely CHOOSE between the only two o0ptions that are
available: gestating-to-term, or the remedy of abortion -- when
faced with ill-timed pregnancy. FREE of *any* coercion whatso-
ever from any person, group, or government entity. That makes
us sensible,compassionate and FAIR-minded egalitarians.

ANTI-Choicers seek to leave America's 100 million+ girls and
women (of gestational age) with NO choice but to be FORCED to
gestate-to-term, even when it's against their will.

That's horrific, unthinkably hateful, and profoundly STUPID!

The Anti-Choicers' loathsome agenda WILL go down the Drain
of Extinction -- just as equally-hateful and ignorant segregation
did, for that very reason. Then... Good riddance to very PUTRID
rubbish.

[[[ READERS: And before you read the next post they put
up that LYINGLY claims abortion is in any
way "sinful," read the SIG, below. ]]]


-- Craig Chilton xana...@mchsi.com

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION

God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present
and future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with
any person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.

Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclu-
sive) would be born, and which ones would NOT, for what-
ever reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at
least, the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg
stage -- the stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.

So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. And any potential people that happened to
have been aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And
missed the RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.

And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.

Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability
of it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others),
than it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term
against their will, and see many of their opportunities and
their well-being destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO
was/is well-aware that MOST women who DO obtain abortions
go on later to HAVE children, by choice, when the timing is
better, and the circumstances and prospects for long-term
stable family environments are far more favorable.)

For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Bitchin' Bonney

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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:11:45 GMT,


Craig Chilton -- <xana...@mchsi.com> wrote:

> To each his own, of course, but for me, VIVA *safe* recreational
>sex. Some risks, but at an acceptable level.


Translation: He only does BUG CHASING[1] on the third Wednesday of
each month

1. Bugchasing From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bugchasing (or Bug chasing) is a term, invented in the 1990s,
stemming out of a subculture of gay men wanting (Chasing) to become
infected with HIV. Bug chasers "chase" the bug by seeking sexual
partners who are HIV positive for the purpose of having unprotected
sex and having the partner change their seroconversion status.

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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Mindless and hateful BIGOT, Bill Taylor (who usually
posts under any of a host of moronic and usually hateful
aliases... makes a total MOCKERY of Christianity by
supporting the hate-agendas of the RRR Cult... and most
of the RRR cultists dishonestly (or deludedly) *claim* to be
Christians despite being one of the most UN-Christian groups
on the face of the earth. SO -- in recognition of his regu-
larly and incessantly barraging Usenet with hateful SWILL
and idiotic garbage and LIES that make it appear as though
all ACTUAL Christians are *fools* and hateful and bigoted
LOSERS like him... Taylor is hereby awarded the cartoon
below, as a reminder to him, and the rest of us, who *his*
REAL master is ---
, ,
/( )`
\ \___ / |
/- _ `-/ '
(/\/ \ \ /\
/ / | ` \
O O ) / |
`-^--'`< '
(_.) _ ) /
`.___/` /
`-----' /
<----. __ / __ \
<----|====O)))==) \) /====
<----' `--' `.__,' \
| |
\ / /\
______( (_ / \______/
,' ,-----' |
`--{__________)

...and don't think Satan isn't utterly DELIGHTED with
Taylor, and his fellow RRR Cultists, for making Christianity
look SO hateful and ignorant, that countless thousands
(and probably millions) of NON-Christians would find it
more worthwhile to attend a rat fight than to come to
Christ.

You're serving your REAL, master (see his caricature,
above, as a reminder of who he is) **VERY** well, Taylor!

And so are ALL of the other bigoted and hateful losers
who support the loathsome hate-agendas of the RRR Cult.

-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>

[[[ To NON-Christian Readers seeing this post:

Please be aware that 94% of American
Christians are NOT lemmings of the RRR Cult,
and are in NO way actively supporting the
hate-agendas of that ludicrous and pathetic
collection of PSEUDO-Christians, and the
(unfortunate, by virtue of their having been
targeted for recruitment by the propaganda
and lies of the cult's leaders) *deceived* and
deluded lower-mentality actual Christians.

I invite you to REJECT the UN-Christian
RRR Cult, and consider Christianity as it
*really* is. Here's a website that can do a
very good job of show you what *actual*
Christianity is all about:

http://www.turningpointonline.org/

And -- the Bible DENOUNCES the tactics
of the RRR Cult. See: 1 Cor. 5:12-13 ]]]

rbw...@juno.com

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Well, discuss it with Jesus Christ. He is the one who is going to
judge this earth.
Robert B. Winn

Andrealphus

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In News 1151541819.6...@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com,,
rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:

Well, tell your lies to Jesus Christ, he'll have a nice place in hell all
ready for you when the time comes.

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson


rbw...@juno.com

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Well, you say highly valuable remedy, Hitler said ultimate solution.
You were both talking about the same thing, homicides.
Robert B. Woinn

rbw...@juno.com

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Andrealphus wrote:
> In News 1151541819.6...@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com,,
> rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
>
> > Paul Anderson wrote:
> >> On 28 Jun 2006 04:52:49 -0700, rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> >> .....
> >>> You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God wrote more
> >>> than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not commit adultery.
> >>
> >> www.m-w.com: adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a
> >> married man and someone other than his wife or between a married
> >> woman and someone other than her husband; also : an act of adultery.
> >>
> >> The 3000 year old Commandment is *only* against violating the
> >> marriage vows to cleave only unto each other. The Commandment is
> >> not against unmarried persons screwing each other as much as they
> >> wish.
> >
> > Well, discuss it with Jesus Christ.
>
> Well, tell your lies to Jesus Christ, he'll have a nice place in hell all
> ready for you when the time comes.
>
Depart, Satan.
Robert B. Winn

Andrealphus

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In News 1151542313.8...@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,

> Andrealphus wrote:
>> In News 1151541819.6...@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com,,
>> rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
>>
>>> Paul Anderson wrote:
>>>> On 28 Jun 2006 04:52:49 -0700, rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>>>> .....
>>>>> You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God wrote
>>>>> more than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not commit
>>>>> adultery.
>>>>
>>>> www.m-w.com: adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a
>>>> married man and someone other than his wife or between a married
>>>> woman and someone other than her husband; also : an act of
>>>> adultery.
>>>>
>>>> The 3000 year old Commandment is *only* against violating the
>>>> marriage vows to cleave only unto each other. The Commandment is
>>>> not against unmarried persons screwing each other as much as they
>>>> wish.
>>>
>>> Well, discuss it with Jesus Christ.
>>
>> Well, tell your lies to Jesus Christ, he'll have a nice place in
>> hell all ready for you when the time comes.
>>

> Satan.
>

Whom you worship.

rbw...@juno.com

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Jesus Christ is the one you need to explain your idea to. He is the

Andrealphus

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In News 1151542524.1...@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com,,

> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

Jesus Christ is the one you need to tell your lies to. He'll had a nice
place in hell picked out for you.

rbw...@juno.com

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JohnN wrote:
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> > Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
> > > "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...

> > > single word of it, here in 2006!


> > >
> > You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God wrote more
> > than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not commit adultery.
> > Robert B. Winn
>
> Too bad your God can't/won't enforce that law isn't it. Sorry excuse
> for a deity
> Don't get no respect, no respect I tell ya.
>

Jesus Christ would be the best one to explain your idea to.
Robert B. Winn

Andrealphus

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In News 1151542799....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,

> JohnN wrote:

Jesus Christ would be the best one to explain your lies to. He'll have a
nice place in hell all picked out for you.

rbw...@juno.com

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Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

Andrealphus

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> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

> Satan.

Whom you worship.

--sexkitten--

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He is. You claim to speak for Jesus Christ:
<1151428889.0...@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>
>>> > I know Jesus Christ.
>
>>
>> Are you saying you speak for him?
Absolutely.
Robert B. Winn


--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres on doctors:
1414fd53.03091...@posting.google.com
psychiatrists aren't real doctors

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
>
>>On 28 Jun 2006 04:52:49 -0700,
>>Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
>>
>
>>> You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God
>>>wrote more than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not
>>>commit adultery.
>>
>> There you go again, Winn -- proving to everyone just how
>>profoundly IGNORANT you are.
>>
>> Adultery exists ONLY when at least one partner is *married*
>>to someone OTHER than the person with whom he/she is having
>>sex. NO such scenario was presented, above. Grow a brain,
>>Winn!
>>
>
> Jesus Christ is the one you need to explain your idea to.

He is. You claim to speak for Jesus Christ:

Sneechres

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The New Testament deals with fornication.

--S

Rabbi MosheDixiecup

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"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xana...@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:rqa4a21hf4umbhthr...@4ax.com...

>
> "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
> almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
> and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
> thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.

....IMHO anyone who is still obsessed with something that
was posted 8 Years ago in an arcane Usenet Newsgroup
desperatly needs a regimine of Prozac and Professional help.

No One

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rbw...@juno.com writes:

> Well, you say highly valuable remedy, Hitler said ultimate solution.
> You were both talking about the same thing, homicides.
> Robert B. Woinn

Hitler said no such thing. The Nazi euphamism for the Holocaust was
"die Endeloesung" (literally "the end solution" but usually rendered
in English as "the final solution"). I've no idea who coined the
phrase. While it could have been Hitler, it could also have been
Goebbels or someone way down in the bureaucracy working in the
euphamism department. The Nazis were heavily into euphamisms - it was
useful as a propaganda tool to make them appear to be more reasonable.

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 28 Jun 2006 17:50:34 -0700,

Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:


[[[ READERS: Before you read the next post they put


up that LYINGLY claims abortion is in any

way "sinful," read the item below. ]]]

> Well, you say highly valuable remedy...

It is a clear-cut FACT that it is a HUGELY-valuable and totally
harmless **remedy** for an unwanted medical condition that
in each individual case could, if the remedy were not sought, be
DEVASTATING to her range of future available opportunities,
and even throw her into a totally *unnecessary* cycle of
poverty that could afflict her throughout her lifetime.

So I don't just "say" it is a valuable remedy.

It IS an *enormously* valuable remedy!

Just as certain treatments for cancer can save and prolong
the lives of cancer victims, THIS wondrously-effective remedy
immediately RESTORES future opportunities and well-being,
and makes it just as though the ill-timed pregnancy had never
happened in the first place. It UNDOES and REVERSES that
horrendous crisis.

And there's MORE good news! Not only does it do all of
that -- but for those who are READY and willing to gestate-
to-term instead, NO one seeks for **force** her to access
abortion.

It's WEIRD: Those who seek to access the remedy and put
their lives back on track are forced to look over their shoulders
for abjectly-IGNORANT, hateful and control-freakish LOUTS
(like *you*, Winn) who seek to forcibly RAPE them for 9 months
for NO good reason by enslaving her to their mindless will.
Whereas those who seek to gestate to term find NO resistance
to that.

WHY? Because the PRO-Choicers are exactly THAT!

They defend her right to CHOOSE, one way or the other,
free of any and all coercion. We who are sensible, FAIR-
minded and compassionate PRO-Choicers couldn't care less
WHICH choice she makes. Only that it is HER choice ONLY.
And that she was able to make an UNCOERCED decision.

Thank heaven that the USA's Pro-Choice egalitarians
outnumber its bigoted and stupid ANTI-Choice **dolts** by
a safe ratio of 2-1.

<IGNORANT hatefulness flushed>


-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.

Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:32:26 -0400,
"Rabbi MosheDixiecup" <vata...@xemunet.net> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"wrote:


>> "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
>> almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
>> and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
>> thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.

> ....IMHO anyone who is still obsessed with something that
> was posted 8 Years ago in an arcane Usenet Newsgroup
> desperatly needs a regimine of Prozac and Professional help.

Yep! That's Screeches!

Wait'll you find out how PARANOID she is!


-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>

Paul Anderson

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Nope. Matthew 7:1-2

Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

We judge ourselves. However we judge others, that is our judgement.
This is why I am Pro-Choice -- I will not judge another.

rbw...@juno.com

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Well, I do not know anything about egalitarians, but God is a liberal.
He tells everyone how to have a good life, avoid problems, and avoid
committing homicide. What way is that? Obey the commandment, Thou
shalt not commit adultery.
Well, you say, we have a narrow definition of adultery. We are going
to do everything not included in that narrow definition. Oops, we have
some unwanted children. We need to commit some homicides of children,
but we just change the definitions of words so that we did not do
anything wrong.
So, I say, Explain it to Jesus Christ. I cannot help you with your
problems.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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Except for a few fetuses once in a while.
Robert B. Winn

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

You said that commandment is invalid and we don't need to obey it. Make
up your mind.


--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and the art of projection- part 3
1130732777.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Psychologists call it"leveling." You either have to inflate your own
sense of self-worth
somehow or try and bring others down to you.
1414fd53.04020...@posting.google.com
you're a whore
1414fd53.03012...@posting.google.com
*I* said you were a whore, and you are
1414fd53.02011...@posting.google.com
I don't own a vibrator,whore.
1414fd53.03121...@posting.google.com
you stupid whore

rbw...@juno.com

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I did not say you had to obey any commandment. That is entirely up to
you.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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--sexkitten-- wrote:
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>
> > Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
> >
> >>On 28 Jun 2006 04:52:49 -0700,
> >>Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>> You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God
> >>>wrote more than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not
> >>>commit adultery.
> >>
> >> There you go again, Winn -- proving to everyone just how
> >>profoundly IGNORANT you are.
> >>
> >> Adultery exists ONLY when at least one partner is *married*
> >>to someone OTHER than the person with whom he/she is having
> >>sex. NO such scenario was presented, above. Grow a brain,
> >>Winn!
> >>
> >
> > Jesus Christ is the one you need to explain your idea to.
>
> He is. You claim to speak for Jesus Christ:
> <1151428889.0...@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>
> >>> > I know Jesus Christ.
> >
> >>
> >> Are you saying you speak for him?
> Absolutely.
> Robert B. Winn

I said I speak for him. He does his own listening.
Robert B. Winn

G-Net

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"Paul Anderson" <elco...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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So you sit back, condone, support and allow the slaughter of the innocent
and think that you are following God's commands? ROFL

"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools..." - Romans 1:22


Paul Anderson

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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:44:26 GMT, "G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>"Paul Anderson" <elco...@netzero.net> wrote ....

>> Nope. Matthew 7:1-2
>>
>> Judge not, that ye be not judged.
>> For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
>> measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
>>
>> We judge ourselves. However we judge others, that is our judgement.
>> This is why I am Pro-Choice -- I will not judge another.
>
>So you sit back, condone, support and allow the slaughter of the innocent
>and think that you are following God's commands? ROFL

I do no such thing. Why must you lie?

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 28 Jun 2006 21:45:09 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
>> Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>>> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:


[[[ READERS: Before you read the next post they put
up that LYINGLY claims abortion is in any
way "sinful," read the item below. ]]]

>>>> GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION

> Well, I do not know anything about egalitarians...

That's probably the MOST honest and true thing you've ever
said in Usenet. You are the OPPOSITE of an egalitarian: a bigot.

[ ... ]

> I cannot help you with your problems.

IF I *had* any problems (or, as the psychobabblers who
are too brain-dead to speak plain English would say, "issues" --
LOL!!!!), you would be right close to the BOTTOM of my list
of people I'd expect any help from.


-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.

BOB

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elco...@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) wrote in news:44a3d8e8.772121296
@news.la.sbcglobal.net:

Apparently G-String ignores his mythical "god's" commandment about "bearing
false witness" (lying). Like most anti-choice loons who post here, G-
String is a hypocrite.

rbw...@juno.com

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Wonderful. Then there would be no reason for you to be coming back
around with your excuses for killing children. Just take them directly
to Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth.
Robert B. Winn

G-Net

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"Paul Anderson" <elco...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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I am not lying at all. Either you are trying to stop abortion or you are
supporting and/or condoning it.


Paul Anderson

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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:20:16 GMT, "G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>"Paul Anderson" <elco...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>news:44a3d8e8....@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:44:26 GMT, "G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Paul Anderson" <elco...@netzero.net> wrote ....
>>
>>>> Nope. Matthew 7:1-2
>>>>
>>>> Judge not, that ye be not judged.
>>>> For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
>>>> measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
>>>>
>>>> We judge ourselves. However we judge others, that is our judgement.
>>>> This is why I am Pro-Choice -- I will not judge another.
>>>
>>>So you sit back, condone, support and allow the slaughter of the innocent
>>>and think that you are following God's commands? ROFL
>>
>> I do no such thing. Why must you lie?
>
>I am not lying at all. Either you are trying to stop abortion or you are
>supporting and/or condoning it.

Fallacy of the excluded middle. Nit to mention that abortion has
nothing to do with the slaughter of the innocent.

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Which does not address your use of an invalid commandment. Why are you
using an invalid commandment?
But does bring up this: why do you feel that people do not have to obey
the commandments of God?

--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and people searches:
1130571778.9...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
DOING ANY SEARCHES AT ALL would give you more detail than you needed to
know.
1130665...@spool6-east.superfeed.net
> She doesn't know my situation because she doesn't feel the need to go
> looking into other people's business like you do.

1414fd53.02031...@posting.google.com
FYI, all a.a. readers who are familiar with Craig Chilton:

Craig has claimed no fewer than six times that he is an elected
official of the Iowa Republican party. To be specific, he says that
he has been *RE*-elected the State Central Committee:

BUT: I did some homework by speaking directly to members of the Iowa
Republican party, specifically, Marlys Popma, Darrell Kearney, Joel
Hannahs, Chad Barth, and Carolyn McGoldrick. I received responses
from some of them, and they did not recognize the name Craig Chilton.
Mr. Kearney flat out said Craig was not a member of the central
committee whatsoever.
Okay, so maybe they aren't entirely informed. But, what about the
website? Wouldn't the Local Party Officials directory for Black Hawk
county have Craig's name there?
http://www.iowagop.org/directory.asp
Hm, no Craig.
Let's try somewhere else:
http://www.elect...@co.black-hawk.ia.us/ ?
Nope.
A Google search of Iowa Republicans, Black Hawk County Republicans,
and the like produced nothing. Black Hawk County Republicans site
seemed to be having server trouble, and if anything develops with it I
will post it.

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Then speak for him, instead of constantly referring us to him.

rbw...@juno.com

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Nit is a fairly accurate description.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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God does not force anyone to obey His commandments. I am not going
to try to force anyone to obey them either. I just say that things go
better if you do obey the commandments of God. For instance if you do
not disobey the commandment, Thou shalt not commit adultery, then you
do not end up with an unwanted pregnancy and start comtemplating the
homicide of a child.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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I did speak for him.
Robert B. Winn

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Then they should be called "suggestions", not "commandments". Besides,
did you say this?


"Obey the commandment, Thou shalt not commit adultery."

--

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Then we don't need to wait and explain it to him, do we? Now, how do you
plan to enforce your pronouncements?

--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and marital rape convictions:
1126361838.764032.231...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
As I said, the marriage agreement includes reasonable expectation of
sexual exchange. This is why John Bobbitt never did a day of time in
the slam for "marital rape" while his crazy wife ended up in a mental
facility.

"Marital rape" is a crime in all fifty states (since 1993), as is
prostitution. The difference is that no one is ever convicted of it.

She was then shown an article on a convicted marital rapist....

1126754651.184485.72...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The reason there is only one marital rape
conviction in the entire country right now (from Nebraska no less,
where even consenting wives are considered rape victims) is because the
marriage vow "I promise to love you" doesn't mean "I promise to say I
love you".

She was then shown SEVERAL articles on several marital rape convictions.....

1126802761.173860.316...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
I wouldn't refer to anyone in that article except for the children as
"victims." Maybe to you, everyone is a victim, but a woman who
deliberately marries an abusive man and then lets him in the house is
not a victim.
1126850910.636846.121...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In case you missed my subtle, unspoken point, it is that many women are
devious, backstabbing succubi; entrapment and false rape charges are
just two of their many sick games.
1126926843.336393.273...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>Rape is still not OK under any
> circumstances.
Neither is falsely accusing your husband of raping you, and neither is
marrying a man and then refusing to put out.
1126982127.985900.178...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
SO when you deliberately take your clothes off for a rapist, it goes
against all common sense. A lot of things can be read into the action
by the courts and the rapists. You make yourself into a victim on
purpose.

bit-o-honey

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Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
> "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
> almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
> and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
> thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.

so I guess it's ok if Christ doesn't marry the church
you know, just shack up with her

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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[ ... ]

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 29 Jun 2006 19:30:27 -0700,
"bit-o-honey" <bigba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:


>> "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
>> almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
>> and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
>> thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.

> So I guess it's ok if Christ doesn't marry the church
> you know, just shack up with her.

Unlike the busybodies that infest our society, I don't give
a rat's ass what ANYONE does, as long as they do no overt
harm to their neighbors in the process.


-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>

Ray Fischer

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G-Net <netn...@verizon.net> wrote:
>"Paul Anderson" <elco...@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> On 28 Jun 2006 17:43:39 -0700, rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>>>
>>>Paul Anderson wrote:
>>>> On 28 Jun 2006 04:52:49 -0700, rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>>>> .....
>>>> >You seem to believe that you have improved upon what God wrote more
>>>> >than three thousand years ago: Thou shalt not commit adultery.
>>>>
>>>> www.m-w.com: adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married
>>>> man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and
>>>> someone other than her husband; also : an act of adultery.
>>>>
>>>> The 3000 year old Commandment is *only* against violating the marriage
>>>> vows to cleave only unto each other. The Commandment is not against
>>>> unmarried persons screwing each other as much as they wish.
>>>
>>>Well, discuss it with Jesus Christ. He is the one who is going to
>>>judge this earth.
>>
>> Nope. Matthew 7:1-2
>>
>> Judge not, that ye be not judged.
>> For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
>> measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
>>
>> We judge ourselves. However we judge others, that is our judgement.
>> This is why I am Pro-Choice -- I will not judge another.
>
>So you sit back, condone, support and allow the slaughter of the innocent

You have been corrupted by arrogance and hate.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

rbw...@juno.com

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I said what Jesus Christ wanted said. I referred you to him. What
made you think I was here to enforce something?
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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There is nothing anyone on earth can do to put people back together
once they are dead. You will just have to wait for the resurrection.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
> On 29 Jun 2006 19:30:27 -0700,
> "bit-o-honey" <bigba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
>
>
> >> "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
> >> almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
> >> and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
> >> thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.
>
> > So I guess it's ok if Christ doesn't marry the church
> > you know, just shack up with her.
>
> Unlike the busybodies that infest our society, I don't give
> a rat's ass what ANYONE does, as long as they do no overt
> harm to their neighbors in the process.
>
As I understand it, you are saying that fetuses are not your neighbors.
Robert B. Winn

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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[ ... ]

rbw...@juno.com

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That is a fairly serious problem, all right. How do you think it
compares with killing children?
Robert B. Winn

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 29 Jun 2006 22:54:04 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
>> "bit-o-honey" <bigba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:


>>>> "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
>>>> almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
>>>> and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
>>>> thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.

>>> So I guess it's ok if Christ doesn't marry the church
>>> you know, just shack up with her.

>> Unlike the busybodies that infest our society, I don't give
>> a rat's ass what ANYONE does, as long as they do no overt
>> harm to their neighbors in the process.

> As I understand it, you are saying that fetuses are not
> your neighbors.

*Any* RPE (Reproductive-Process Entity); whether fetus,
embryo, zygote, or gamete -- have the same in common, as
far as being a "neighbor" is concerned, as the average BRICK.

As I've made VERY clear before -- as verified by the Bible
in just about every way imaginable -- PERSONHOOD *begins*
at BIRTH.

Beforehand, an RPE is to a person (and all people have been
BORN) as an acorn is to an oak tree.

The abject IGNORANCE of Anti-Choicers/RRR Cultists could
be nominated as a very negative 8th Wonder of the World.

Ray Fischer

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Far worse.

I haven't killed any children.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

bit-o-honey

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Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:

> Unlike the busybodies that infest our society, I don't give
> a rat's ass what ANYONE does, as long as they do no overt
> harm to their neighbors in the process.

this reminds me of, watered down coke-cola

but, you get a blessing for being a peacemaker

and if, abstaining from overting harm is where you are, if this is your
contribution, it is commendable, but I commend you to set an example of
what is better

remember, good is the enemy of best

good, can make a camp at the doorpost of comfort, it can rob you of
your birthright

--

say it with me

"The devil is liar"

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 30 Jun 2006 03:36:13 -0700,
"bit-o-honey" <bigba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:


>> Unlike the busybodies that infest our society, I don't give
>> a rat's ass what ANYONE does, as long as they do no overt
>> harm to their neighbors in the process.

> This reminds me of, watered down coke-cola.

Then you obviously didn't get the point.

-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>

bobandcarole

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Bitchin' Bonney wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:11:45 GMT,
>
>
> Craig Chilton -- <xana...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > To each his own, of course, but for me, VIVA *safe* recreational
> >sex. Some risks, but at an acceptable level.
>
>
> Translation: He only does BUG CHASING[1] on the third Wednesday of
> each month
>
> 1. Bugchasing From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bugchasing (or Bug chasing) is a term, invented in the 1990s,
> stemming out of a subculture of gay men wanting (Chasing) to become
> infected with HIV. Bug chasers "chase" the bug by seeking sexual
> partners who are HIV positive for the purpose of having unprotected
> sex and having the partner change their seroconversion status.

homosexuals are disgusting aren't they?

G-Net

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"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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You're right, you haven't personnally killed anyone. You just support,
condone and encourage others to do it.


rbw...@juno.com

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Well, all plants and animals are given to man for food, raiment, etc.
That is not true of other humans. Comparing a child to an acorn does
not give you the right to kill it.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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Arrogance and hate are far worse than killing children? That seems
very arrogant and hateful, Ray.
Robert B. Winn

Holy Bretts

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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:43:14 GMT, "G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Some of us definitely aren't in favor of abortion, G-net. The only
time I'd condone it is if I knew for a fact that the kid would grow up
to be a fundy (or an anencephalic, which is pretty much the same
thing).

-----------

Holy Bretts
MF-er of God
Pray for us.

G-Net

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"Holy Bretts" <Halle...@InJesusName.amen> wrote in message
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Then why don't you do something to help stop it?

> The only time I'd condone it is if I knew for a fact that the kid would
> grow up
> to be a fundy (or an anencephalic, which is pretty much the same
> thing).

Growing up and becoming a left-wing, liberal, atheistic, abortion supporter
is even worse...


Andrealphus

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Who says we're not? I'm very involved in public education on birth control
and safe sex edication. Thanks to such efforts, the teen pregnancy rate is
at the lowest per-capita levels in more than 50 years. Fewer teen
pregnancies translates into fewer abortions all around.

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson


Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 30 Jun 2006 04:04:27 -0700,
"bobandcarole" <bobandc...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> homosexuals are disgusting aren't they?

Not in the least. But YOU certainly are, ungrammatical bigot.


-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>

Holy Bretts

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Jun 30, 2006, 12:22:59 PM6/30/06
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:44:53 GMT, "G-Net" <netn...@verizon.net>
wrote:

What is it that you're doing?

Ray Fischer

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G-Net <netn...@verizon.net> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>You're right, you haven't personnally killed anyone. You just support,
>condone and encourage others to do it.

And again you prove to the world your corrtuption by resorting to
lies again. You claim you follow the Bible yet you cannot even manage
to obey it's basic tenets.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Arrogance and hate lead to killing more than just children.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 30 Jun 2006 05:49:26 -0700,

Then, since all **children** have been BORN, no problem.

Typically, it's apples-and-oranges again with you, nitwit.

UNwanted RPEs are worthless, and more than a quadrillion of *those*
are electively aborted, daily. And even though Anti-Choice loons are
so PROFOUNDLY ignorant as to defend worthless RPEs, they *also*
are so profoundly HYPOCRITICAL as to *ignore* 99.9999999999% of
them.

Moronic RRR cult lemmings!

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Jesus Christ said nothing of the sort.


--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres on marital rape:
1414fd53.03121...@posting.google.com
Marriage is a contract in which everything is shared, including
bodies. What's yours is his and what's his is yours.
By withholding sex from him you violated your marriage vows. You
stole from your husband what was rightfully his.
1126802087....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Making your mind up is called the marriage
certificate. If you want to change it, it's called a divorce.
1414fd53.03110...@posting.google.com
How would a witnesses' opinion, or a DA's opinion, or
a jurist's opinion, or a judge's opinion of the significance of force
involved be relevant?
The issue is that you think the government and it's
various judicial arms should act as people's parents and guardians,
even when it isn't there and can't possibly mediate what goes on in the
privacy of someone's bedroom without resorting to testimony--"he said,
she said".

--sexkitten--

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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
>
>>On 29 Jun 2006 19:30:27 -0700,
>>"bit-o-honey" <bigba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> "Sneechres" referenced this post of mine from 8 years ago...
>>>>almost to the DAY! Since I always stand behind what I write,
>>>>and I always put my REAL name to them as proof of that, I
>>>>thought it would be worthwhile to re-post the whole thing.
>>
>>> So I guess it's ok if Christ doesn't marry the church
>>>you know, just shack up with her.
>>
>> Unlike the busybodies that infest our society, I don't give
>>a rat's ass what ANYONE does, as long as they do no overt
>>harm to their neighbors in the process.
>>
>
> As I understand it, you are saying that fetuses are not your neighbors.

As I understand it, you are saying that women are not your neighbors.


--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres on doctors:
1414fd53.03091...@posting.google.com
psychiatrists aren't real doctors

--sexkitten--

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Jun 30, 2006, 2:21:59 PM6/30/06
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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Well, your arrogance/hate problem isn't as bad as your killing-children
problem. Personally, I prefer to do neither one.

--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres on her mystery down payment:
1414fd53.0312122347.79901...@posting.google.com
By April of 2001, the money I had managed to save for a down payment on a
house (from my husband and I working three jobs between us) was
confiscated by the IRS.
The first year of the Bush presidency, I got money back and am now a
homeowner.
1129172027.067956.70...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
I never paid a down payment on my house. The government took it
all. Fortunately, my husband is a Navy veteran, we had good credit,
and he was able to use his military benefits to get a $0 down.
1130579291.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
We did have a down.
1130263251.6...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Any amount is more than the zero I put in, you stupid crackhead.

--sexkitten--

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Jun 30, 2006, 2:27:13 PM6/30/06
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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

He didn't say anything about a child, Rob.


--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and marital rape convictions:
1126361838.764032.231...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
As I said, the marriage agreement includes reasonable expectation of
sexual exchange. This is why John Bobbitt never did a day of time in
the slam for "marital rape" while his crazy wife ended up in a mental
facility.

"Marital rape" is a crime in all fifty states (since 1993), as is
prostitution. The difference is that no one is ever convicted of it.

She was then shown an article on a convicted marital rapist....

1126754651.184485.72...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The reason there is only one marital rape
conviction in the entire country right now (from Nebraska no less,
where even consenting wives are considered rape victims) is because the
marriage vow "I promise to love you" doesn't mean "I promise to say I
love you".

She was then shown SEVERAL articles on several marital rape convictions.....

1126802761.173860.316...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
I wouldn't refer to anyone in that article except for the children as
"victims." Maybe to you, everyone is a victim, but a woman who
deliberately marries an abusive man and then lets him in the house is
not a victim.
1126850910.636846.121...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In case you missed my subtle, unspoken point, it is that many women are
devious, backstabbing succubi; entrapment and false rape charges are
just two of their many sick games.
1126926843.336393.273...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>Rape is still not OK under any
> circumstances.
Neither is falsely accusing your husband of raping you, and neither is
marrying a man and then refusing to put out.
1126982127.985900.178...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
SO when you deliberately take your clothes off for a rapist, it goes
against all common sense. A lot of things can be read into the action
by the courts and the rapists. You make yourself into a victim on
purpose.

Andrealphus

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ladyhawk_...@hotmail.com, typed this:

Liar Robert lies again! No surprise there.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded

fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Strife767

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[piggybacking] While people like G-net would rather preach abstinence-only
nonsense, then whine when hormone-driven teens fuck each other anyway and
have unwanted pregnancies because they weren't taught anything about
contraceptives.

Andrealphus

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You would think that G-net would at least take a lesson from the rest of the
world. The trend all over the world is that among democratic nations, the
more sex ed, the fewer per-capita teen pregnancies, the fewer teen
pregnancies, the fewer per-capita teen pregnancies, the fewer per-capita
teen abortions. People like G-net will never learn this simple lesson.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded

fear. - Thomas Jefferson


rbw...@juno.com

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Jun 30, 2006, 7:05:03 PM6/30/06
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Well, I would certainly have to agree with you about that, Ray. The
time will come when pro-abortion advocates will not be satisfied with
the blood of children. The way things are going, there will be enough
bloodshed to satisfy the most bloodthirsty people on earth.
Robert B. Winn

Andrealphus

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Jun 30, 2006, 7:05:55 PM6/30/06
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In News 1151708703.7...@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,
rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:

So you admit that worshipping a deity, as you do, that is guilty of killing
millions of children is wrong?

rbw...@juno.com

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Jun 30, 2006, 7:10:26 PM6/30/06
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Well, no, Craig. Not all children are born. A large percentage of
them are killed before they are born by abortion doctors.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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Well, we were discussing human beings. Are you saying that he did not
compare a human being to an acorn?
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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Depart, Satan.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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I do not admit anything to you Satan. Depart.
Robert B. Winn

--sexkitten--

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Jun 30, 2006, 7:52:29 PM6/30/06
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Me, too. I mean, look at all the killing the Christians are doing/have
done through the centuries.
The Mormons, for example:
http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/blood.htm

--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres on taxes:
1130298435.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com


> > Any amount is more than the zero I put in, you stupid crackhead.

> You are making no payments? How did you manage that one?
By deducting them on my taxes.
1130571986.5...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> that doesn't mean you
> get your money's worth back.
I didn's say it did.

--sexkitten--

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Jun 30, 2006, 7:53:12 PM6/30/06
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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Yup. All of them, because they are not children before birth. They are
fetuses.

--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and the art of projection- part 2
1130732777.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Psychologists call it"leveling." You either have to inflate your own
sense of self-worth
somehow or try and bring others down to you.
1414fd53.02100...@posting.google.com
miserable fishreek skankwhore
1414fd53.0401...@posting.google.com
fishreek skank whore
8505fb$b0u$1...@nnrp1.deja.com (as asaurus)
Nice try, fishreek.
8822ia$v22$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 (as asaurus)
She's a fishreek hypocrite
894cmj$frh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com (as asaurus)
fishreek ho

--sexkitten--

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Jun 30, 2006, 7:54:10 PM6/30/06
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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

No, you were discussing fetuses.

Are you saying that he did not
> compare a human being to an acorn?

Why yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

--sexkitten--

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Jun 30, 2006, 7:57:39 PM6/30/06
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rbw...@juno.com wrote:

Why do you feel it is satanic to call a liar a liar when he lies? I
thought ~lying~ was supposed to be satanic.

--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres on her mystery down payment:
1414fd53.0312122347.79901...@posting.google.com
By April of 2001, the money I had managed to save for a down payment on a
house (from my husband and I working three jobs between us) was
confiscated by the IRS.
The first year of the Bush presidency, I got money back and am now a
homeowner.
1129172027.067956.70...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
I never paid a down payment on my house. The government took it
all. Fortunately, my husband is a Navy veteran, we had good credit,
and he was able to use his military benefits to get a $0 down.
1130579291.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
We did have a down.
1130263251.6...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Andrealphus

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In News 1151709736.8...@d30g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,

> Andrealphus wrote:

> Satan.

Whom you worship.

Andrealphus

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In News 1151710013....@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,

So you continue to lie. No surprise there.

> Satan.

Whom you worship.


Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!

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On 30 Jun 2006 05:49:26 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbw...@juno.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! wrote:


>> *Any* RPE (Reproductive-Process Entity); whether fetus,
>> embryo, zygote, or gamete -- have the same in common, as
>> far as being a "neighbor" is concerned, as the average BRICK.
>>
>> As I've made VERY clear before -- as verified by the Bible
>> in just about every way imaginable -- PERSONHOOD *begins*
>> at BIRTH.
>>
>> Beforehand, an RPE is to a person (and all people have been
>> BORN) as an acorn is to an oak tree.
>>
>> The abject IGNORANCE of Anti-Choicers/RRR Cultists could
>> be nominated as a very negative 8th Wonder of the World.

> Well, all plants and animals are given to man for food, raiment, etc.
> That is not true of other humans. Comparing a child to an acorn does
> not give you the right to kill it.

Then, since all **children** have been BORN, no problem.

Typically, it's apples-and-oranges again with you, nitwit.

UNwanted RPEs are worthless, and more than a quadrillion of *those*
are electively aborted, daily. And even though Anti-Choice loons are
so PROFOUNDLY ignorant as to defend worthless RPEs, they *also*
are so profoundly HYPOCRITICAL as to *ignore* 99.9999999999% of
them.

Moronic RRR cult lemmings!


Ray Fischer

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Jun 30, 2006, 11:54:21 PM6/30/06
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>Well, I would certainly have to agree with you about that, Ray.

Then why do you offer nothing but arrogance and hate?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

rbw...@juno.com

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Arrogance and hate? Who do you think I hate?
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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I do not allow evil spirits to call me nitwit, Satan. Depart.
Robert B. Winn

rbw...@juno.com

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Well, Satan, what you are actually saying is that you are an evil
spirit. Depart.
Robert B. Winn

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