The Trojan Horse story of the Bible
guardian Snow
divided against itself is laid waste, and a house divided against a
house falls.
Those are the words of the Messiah Yehoshua and in every bible today
is the Trojan horse of the Christian church.
Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
circumcision was unto Peter;
Paul, claimed he had, "the gospel of the uncircumcision", but what is
it? What are the tenants of this other gospel inside of your bible?
Today we have dozens of different denominations of Christian churches
and hundreds of different translations of the same text of scriptures
but why? All of the differences between churches are between use of
the Torah and the Prophets and the New Testament and can be traced to
the Trojan horse, the false Apostle Paul.
When I first wrote this article 2 years ago, I didn’t know just how
right I was in saying “Trojan Horse”. A name removed from many
versions of scriptures including the King James is:
Act 20:4 And he was accompanied by Sopater of Beroia + the son of
Pyrrhus
Act 20:5 And these, going ahead, waited for us at Troy *1.
To understand this name Pyrrhus, we would have to know the story of
The Trojan Horse but let’s examine just a few verses of Luke, who was
probably one of the cleverest in his use of word devices.
Purrhus was the name of a warrior inside the Trojan horse that was
brought into Troy!
Act 16:7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into
Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.
Act 16:8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troy.
The history of the Trojan horse reads:
“Finding Troy proved difficult, however, and the Greek fleet at first
landed in Mysia. A prophet, Helenus told the Greeks that Troy would
not fall unless: Pyrrhus, Achilles' son, fought in the war”
http://www.stanford.edu/~plomio/history.html
Lydia, the seller of Purple in Acts 16:
“A legend related by Herodotus, who states that, the name Lydia came
from king Lydus at the time of the fall of Troy”
Odyssey 10-12: Odysseus and crew leave Troy and sail back to Achaea.
Act 19:21 After these things were ended, Paul purposed in the spirit,
when he had passed through Macedonia and Achaia, to go to Jerusalem,
saying, After I have been there, I must also see Rome.
The New Testament is loaded with Greek Mythology. One example is
here:
Act 16:16 And it came to be, as we went to prayer, that a certain
slave girl possessed with a spirit of Puthon, did meet us, who brought
her masters much profit by foretelling.
The Demon that Paul cast out of the slave girl, “Puthon”:
In Greek mythology the name of the Pythian serpent or dragon that
dwelt in the region of Pytho at the foot of Parnassus in Phocis, and
was said to have guarded the oracle at Delphi and been slain by
Apollo. In the “Homeric Hymn to Apollo”, related by Hyginus composed
about 522 BCE during Classical times.
Apollo also being one of Paul’s disciples, we keep seeing references
to serpents and dragons while Apostle Paul is “casting out” Greek
mythical demons. Further when Paul is blinded after his 3 different
conversions:
Act 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes, as it were Scales,
and he received his sight. And rising up, he was immersed.
Act 14:12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius,
because he was the chief speaker.
Planets? One of the more telling things about this references to Pagan
deities made of Paul and Barnabus after they healed the man of Lystra
is that it was changed from what it should read in English.
Act 14:12 And they called Barnabas, Zues; and Paul, Hermes, because
he was the chief speaker.
Hermes: God of trade, profit general commerce, and of the cunning of
thieves and liars. The Homeric hymn to Hermes invokes him as the one
"of many shifts (polytropos), blandly cunning, a robber, a cattle
driver, a bringer of dreams, a watcher by night, a thief at the gates,
one who was soon to show forth wonderful deeds among the deathless
gods."[2]
He protects and takes care of all the travelers, miscreants, harlots,
old crones and thieves that pray to him or cross his path. Hermes is a
messenger from the gods to humans, sharing this role with Iris. An
interpreter who bridges the boundaries with strangers is a hermeneus.
Hermes gives us our word "hermeneutics" for the art of interpreting
hidden meaning.
1Co 4:1 Let a man regard us as servants of Christ and trustees of the
secrets of God.
What’s interesting is that Zeus and Hermes are changed to the lesser
known ones in the King James and other versions based in its work,
this occurs in older English bibles also. Calling Barnabas, “Zeus”?
If you consider the history here, this appears to be mocking them...
Would you really think a man was Zeus throwing lightning bolts down to
earth just because Paul healed somebody? What I find interesting is
the next passages that some will point out:
Act 14:14 But when The Apostles,
Barnabas and Paul, heard of,
they rent their clothes,
and ran in among the people, crying out,
Is this calling Barnabas and Paul Apostles? Many seem to think so and
this is where Luke is clever in his wording... this passage can be
read different ways and the reader will see what they want.
I say, It was not Paul and Barnabas that rent their clothes because
Paul was only self proclaimed and not of the twelve. If it had been
Paul and Barnabas calling on them to stop then why did the Jews come
and have them stoned?
Act 14:19 And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and
Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew him
out of the city, supposing he had been dead.
I believe this is pointing to this passage:
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and
his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the
beast.
Act 23:24 And provide them beasts, that they may set Paul on
In chapter 1 we see Luke say,
Act 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through
the Holy Spirit had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had
chosen:
Now it speak to the fact that Commandments were given to the apostles
“whom he had chosen”. Paul is only ever identified as a “chosen
vessel”, not apostle. It appears that Luke purposely changes many of
the stories around and whenever he says, “spirit”, it means to look
closely as in:
Act 2:3 And there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and
settled on each one of them.
A “divided tongue” is the tongue of a serpent. Luke’s version of the
Apostles receiving the spirit departs from John’s story:
Joh 20:22 And having said this, He breathed on them, and said to them,
“Receive the Set-apart Spirit.
So should we believe the “divided tongue” or John’s version where they
received the spirit from the mouth of the Messiah? Maybe Luke is
telling us that he was forced to fabricate his story… One of the next
things the Spirit draws attention to is:
Act 2:38 Then Kepha said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and ye
shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Did Peter really baptize men ONLY in the name of Jesus? I notice that
he starts off by saying, “Repent”. Are you doing something wrong that
you need to repent of?
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit:
Chaprter 19 where Paul “finds a couple of disciples”. He asked the
men who baptized them:
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And
they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of
repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him
which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:7 And all the men were about twelve.
Paul is forming his own 12 disciples. Now he was in Ephesians at the
time, which is important because Revelation 2:2 says these are the
people that reject the false apostle.
Act 19:9 But when some were hardened and did not believe, speaking
evil of the Way before the crowd, he withdrew from them and separated
the disciples, reasoning daily in the school of Turannos.
The name Turannos is where we derive our word Tyrant. Is it possible
Luke is telling us a clue? I think Acts is loaded with clues that
have been lost because of language, time and local knowledge. We are
only now starting to decipher them. Now we see why the NT tradition
of removing the name of Yahweh has persisted is because if you
reference what John the Baptist said with what the actual Hebrew
scriptures say, you find a different message is put forward by the
true prophets.
Mat 3:3 For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Yeshayahu,
saying, “A voice of one crying in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way of
Yahweh, make His paths straight.’ ”1 Footnote:1Isa. 40:3.
Notice that the person who baptized the very Messiah,
Mat 3:11 “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance”
John is the one who performed theirs but this is not good enough for
Paul and he insists that they be baptized in the name of Jesus
instead. According to what the gospel writers wrote, John baptized in
the name of Yahweh, not Jesus. The authors of the gospels are quietly
pointing us to what is written with the temptation of Satan story:
Mat 4:4 But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not
live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of
YAHWEH.’ ”1 Footnote: 1Dt. 8:3.
Most Christians do not understand the subtle transference from Yahweh
to the Messiah being performed by the New Testament Church but when
it’s pointed out:
On Sep 2, 8:11 am, kenrank wrote:
> John's baptism was unto repentence... it had nothing to do with what
> NAME came out of his mouth! Read you Scriptures notes... Shem in
> Hebrew means much more than just a name... he would have baptized into
> YHWH's power and authority, but that doesn't mean he had to use the
> appallation to do so!
Christians have been trained to blatantly disregard the commands of
Yahweh unfortunately.
Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.
What name you baptized under was an issue to Paul in Corinthians also:
1Co 1:14 I thank YHWH that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and
Gaius;
1Co 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
1Co 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I
know not whether I baptized any other.
1Co 1:17 For the Messiah sent me not to baptize
So he baptized people but he wasn’t sent to do it? “I know not”, who
is he, Bill Clinton? The Messiah said:
Mat 5:37 “But let your word ‘Yea’ be ‘Yea,’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No.’ And
what goes beyond these is from the wicked one.
Acts reports:
Act 18:8 And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on
the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing
believed, and were baptized.
Guess his memory got better when it suited him and as Ken in his style
pointed out:
Act 18:14 And as Saul was about to open his mouth, Gallion said to the
Yehuḏim, “If it were a matter of wrongdoing or wicked recklessness, O
Yehuḏim, there would be reason why I should bear with you.
Act 18:15 “But if it is a question of words and NAMES and a Torah
which is among you (Exodus 20:7), see to it yourselves, for I do not
wish to be a judge of these matters.”
New Testament authors understood all too well that if they came out
and proclaimed the straight forward truth, their works would be
destroyed.
Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon
them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord
Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preaches.
It should be noted that when Luke says “spirits”, we should pay
attention and the name JE$US, whom Paul preached. The name of the
Messiah is HERE:
Zec 6:11 “And you shall take the silver and gold, make a crown, and
set it on the head of Yehoshua the son of Yehotsaḏaq, the high
priest,
Zec 6:12 and shall speak to him, saying, ‘Thus said Yahweh of hosts,
saying, “See, the Man whose name is the Branch! And from His place He
shall branch out, and He shall build the Hĕḵal of Yahweh.
I should point out that it shouldn’t matter if the person was a
vagabond or a Jew, he was working in the name that PAUL preached,
which identifies that there were OTHER names being preached!
Act 19:14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of
the priests, which did so.
Act 19:15 And the EVIL spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and
Paul I know; but who are ye?
Some Christians point out that the demons knowing Paul and Jesus is
proof of the true name Paul preached.
Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and
overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of
that house naked and wounded.
Yet, with this abysmal failure, do you believe demons that overcame,
prevailed and wounded those who preached Paul’s name?
Instead we find they coded their works and said, “It is written” and
we should “go and learn what this means”, that everything was in
parable was because of Roman control and the over site of the Roman
Pharisee Saul.
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith YHWH, I
will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your
daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and
your old men shall dream dreams:
Luke knew that eventually somebody would come and follow his bread
crumb trail across his gospel.
Mat 10:25 “It is enough for the taught one to become like his teacher,
and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the
house Beʽelzebul, how much more those of his household!
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Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’
Shalom,
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Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.
*1Footnote: TRO'AS (tro'az; Gk. the Troad, region about Troy). A city
on the coast of Mysia, opposite the SE extremity of the island of
Tenedos, and near Troy. It was formerly called Antigonia Troas, having
been built by Antigonus; but it was embellished by Lysimachus and
named Alexandria Troas in honor of Alexander the Great. It flourished
under the Romans and, with its environs, was raised by Augustus to be
a colonia. It was while in Troas that Paul received the divine
intimation that he was to carry the gospel into Europe (Acts 16:8-11);
where he rested for a short time on the northward road from Ephesus
(during the next missionary journey), in the expectation of meeting
Titus (2 Cor 2:12-13); where on his return southward he met those who
had preceded him from Philippi (Acts 20:5-6), and remained a week; and
where, years after, he left a cloak, some books, and parchments in the
house of Carpus (2 Tim 4:13).
BIBLIOGRAPHY: E. M. Blaiklock, Cities of the New Testament (1965), pp.
35-38.
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shambles.
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Terry Cross
> Luk 11:17 And He, knowing their thoughts, said to them, “Every reign
> divided against itself is laid waste, and a house divided against a
> house falls.
>
> Those are the words of the Messiah Yehoshua and in every bible today
> is the Trojan horse of the Christian church.
>
> Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
> uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
> circumcision was unto Peter;
>
> Paul, claimed he had, "the gospel of the uncircumcision", but what is
> it? What are the tenants of this other gospel inside of your bible?
Paul WAS a Pharisee. And as such, Paul his genitals confused with
spiritual values much of the time. It is a sad but foundation
confusion in the Old Testament. According to the Hebrews and Jews,
since women cannot be circumcised, they cannot be "purified" at birth
by genital mutilation as can men. Hence, all our sexual functions
"defile" us and those around us, making us lower class citizens.
Women are vessels of iniquity. You wouldn't want a menstruating woman
teaching the Torah in a synagogue, would you? Heavens to Betsy!
TCross
guardian Snow
> Paul WAS a Pharisee. And as such, Paul his genitals confused with
> spiritual values much of the time. It is a sad but foundation
> confusion in the Old Testament. According to the Hebrews and Jews,
> since women cannot be circumcised, they cannot be "purified" at birth
> by genital mutilation as can men. Hence, all our sexual functions
> "defile" us and those around us, making us lower class citizens.
>
> Women are vessels of iniquity. You wouldn't want a menstruating woman
> teaching the Torah in a synagogue, would you? Heavens to Betsy!
>
> TCross
What did you think of all the fictional references I found? See, I'm
starting to see Acts as a coded document with hidden numbers, colors
and information for Theo (religious) Philos (Thinkers)
Respond directly at:
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Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’
Shalom,
*´¨)
¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨)
(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)
Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.
1Footnote: TRO'AS (tro'az; Gk. the Troad, region about Troy). A city
Rod
>> divided against itself is laid waste, and a house divided against a
>> house falls.
>>
>> Those are the words of the Messiah Yehoshua and in every bible today
>> is the Trojan horse of the Christian church.
>>
>> Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
>> uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
>> circumcision was unto Peter;
>>
>> Paul, claimed he had, "the gospel of the uncircumcision", but what is
>> it? What are the tenants of this other gospel inside of your bible?
>
> Paul WAS a Pharisee. And as such, Paul his genitals confused with
> spiritual values much of the time. It is a sad but foundation
> confusion in the Old Testament. According to the Hebrews and Jews,
> by genital mutilation as can men. Hence, all our sexual functions
> "defile" us and those around us, making us lower class citizens.
>
> Women are vessels of iniquity. You wouldn't want a menstruating woman
> teaching the Torah in a synagogue, would you? Heavens to Betsy!
>
> TCross
>
If it helps, many men including me don't see women as described above.
Kaibilly
Sounds like wishful thinking on his part. Maybe that's why he had
issues, Jewish woman wouldn't be his "vessel of iniquity".
Kaibilly
>
> I believe that being successful means having a balance of success
> stories across the many areas of your life. You can't truly be
> considered successful in your business life if your home life is in
> shambles.
> Zig Ziglar
That was very interesting... Thanks.
Terry Cross
> On Sep 5, 7:05 am, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Paul WAS a Pharisee. And as such, Paul his genitals confused with
> > spiritual values much of the time. It is a sad but foundation
> > confusion in the Old Testament. According to the Hebrews and Jews,
> > since women cannot be circumcised, they cannot be "purified" at birth
> > by genital mutilation as can men. Hence, all our sexual functions
> > "defile" us and those around us, making us lower class citizens.
>
> > Women are vessels of iniquity. You wouldn't want a menstruating woman
> > teaching the Torah in a synagogue, would you? Heavens to Betsy!
>
> > TCross
>
> What did you think of all the fictional references I found? See, I'm
> starting to see Acts as a coded document with hidden numbers, colors
> and information for Theo (religious) Philos (Thinkers)
>
It is impressive, but I have very little patience for Paul, so I could
not follow through all the chronology and many characters of whom I
know nothing. I did not mean to divert the threat, but that part
compelled me to comment.
TCross
guardian Snow
> It is impressive, but I have very little patience for Paul, so I could
> not follow through all the chronology and many characters of whom I
> know nothing. I did not mean to divert the thread, but that part
> compelled me to comment.
>
> TCross
It's not big deal Terry. Tell me what's on your mind these days...
I'm not against having a conversation and just speaking about what's
on your mind. Ultimately, if I'm not here to help people in some
fashion then I shouldn't be posting.
I believe that we should use every moment of every day trying to help
people in some way. What's going on in your life that you don't mind
sharing publicly... I think it's good you spoke what was on your
mind:)
Doug
wrote in article
<7a1c1fd8-cbc7-45bd...@p10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>:
> On Sep 3, 10:58 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
>> Luk 11:17 And He, knowing their thoughts, said to them, “Every reign
>> divided against itself is laid waste, and a house divided against a
>> house falls.
>>
>> Those are the words of the Messiah Yehoshua and in every bible today is
>> the Trojan horse of the Christian church.
>>
>> Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
>> uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision
>> was unto Peter;
>>
>> Paul, claimed he had, "the gospel of the uncircumcision", but what is
>> it? What are the tenants of this other gospel inside of your bible?
>
> Paul WAS a Pharisee. And as such, Paul his genitals confused with
> spiritual values much of the time. It is a sad but foundation confusion
> in the Old Testament. According to the Hebrews and Jews, since women
> cannot be circumcised, they cannot be "purified" at birth by genital
> mutilation as can men. Hence, all our sexual functions "defile" us and
> those around us, making us lower class citizens.
That is not what Paul taught. Paul was foremost among the apostles in
teaching that the meaning of circumcision was symbolic, and that it was
not necessary for Gentiles to be circumcised literally. It was a
spiritual thing, an attitude toward God.
Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice
in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
To Paul it made no difference whether one was Jew or Greek by race; or
male or female, as far as ones' status was concerned as a Christian.
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is
neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
--
Doug
guardian Snow
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:05:23 -0700, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com>
> wrote in article
> <7a1c1fd8-cbc7-45bd-93ca-15219a9a4...@p10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>:
To bad he was unable to "practice what he preached" :)
Act 16:3 Sha’ul wished to have this one go with him. And he took him
and circumcised him because of the Yehuḏim who were in those places,
for they all knew that his father was Greek.
You do know that Paul preached good works, right?
Act 26:20 but declared first to those in Damascus and in Yerushalayim,
and in all the country of Yehuḏah, and to the gentiles, that they
should repent, and turn to Elohim, and do works worthy of repentance.
Doug
wrote in article
<67112f6c-f3ab-48ae...@z3g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:
Indeed, Paul taught good works, just as Jesus did. He circumcised Timothy
for the sake of the gospel, so he could be more effective as evangelist,
as apparently some of the Jews enquired whether or not he was circumcised.
This was putting into practise what Jesus said:
Matthew 5:41
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
--
Doug
guardian Snow
So, you should preach one way when somebody inquires and another way
when somebody else inquires, right? So circumcise some people, don't
circumcise others?
preach good works to some and no works to others....
