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::: Jesus is LORD :::

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Jul 27, 2010, 10:00:25 PM7/27/10
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Feather fea...@earthling.net wrote in
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> On Jul 25, 2:47 pm, "Jude" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> "Feather" <feat...@earthling.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:c2bc658f-bc79-4768...@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 25, 8:04 am, "Jude" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Feather" <feat...@earthling.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:9d281f5d-785f-45a4...@m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jul 23, 7:51 am, "Jude" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I trust God and I am big enough to say that I don't know a lot
>>>> about God.
>>>> Unlike Fundamentalists who want to believe they know just about
>>>> everything
>>>> God is. It's so obvious to an open minded person that God is NOT
>>>> telling us
>>>> a LOT about why this or why that. I don't believe in a system of
>>>> beliefs ABOUT God but just that God exists and that I can trust
>>>> Him. HEY, what else
>>>> can we do but trust? We're not in control.
>>
>>>> Thanks for bringing up Sandra. I'm sure she is with God, no doubt.
>>
>>> Hi Jude,
>>
>>> Just a quick note to say how sorry I am for your loss, and how happy
>>> for Sandra that she is with the LORD. It's a double-edged sword, eh?
>>> Loss and celebration.
>>
>>> Yes, we are not in control, as only God is Sovereign.
>>
>>> God bless and keep you in His Love,
>>
>>> Feather
>>
>>> Much thanks for your words,Feather. Yes, it is a double edged sword
>>> for sure.
>>
>>> There is little we can control in life.
>>
>>> I hope you are doing well, both physically and spiritually.
>>
>>> God bless you and yours always.
>>
>> Since God is Sovereign over all things, He is indeed Sovereign over
>> my life. My surrender to Him is sometimes daily, sometimes moment by
>> moment and sometimes, non-existent (darned this battle between flesh
>> and spirit anyhooz)........therefore I go through a lot of stuff, but
>> am thankful for the valleys. Currently, I am in another valley of
>> trial, but He is bringing me through it. God is so good. :)
>>
>> It's a physical thing - and will require surgery again
>> soon.....thankfully not my back :)
>>
>> Let's just continuing praying it's not your back.
>
> No, it's not, and I am thankful :)
>
> Meantime, my son will be needing a lot of prayer.....I won't write
> why, as God knows.


And now Feather is asking for prayer for her son from Jude to what god
ever ?


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On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:10:22 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
Article <h89945$gu3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Subject: Re: I cannot respond
"Jude" <ca...@swamp.wet> wrote:
**************************************************************
Jesus is NOT God.
**************************************************************

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:25:20 -0600,
in article <JzCHh.4561$X6....@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
"Jude Alexander" <Ju...@littlerowofoaks.usa> wrote:
*************************************************************
I'm here for ONE reason, to expose the errors in the bible and
to SHOW that it CANNOT be the "inerrant word of God!"
*************************************************************

See also http://tinyurl.com/2hkygx where he lambastes Paul as
an "apostate".

Jude calling people an "asshole" 191 times:
http://tinyurl.com/34x6pm


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--

___________________________________________________
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
http://the-beauty-of-the-psalms.blogspot.com
http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
http://bible-prophecy-and-revelation.blogspot.com/


Misanthropic Curmudgeon

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Jul 27, 2010, 10:18:28 PM7/27/10
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On Jul 28, 2:00 pm, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com>
wrote:
[snip]
I'm just wondering if I am the only one who thought this mangled
rhetoric was some sort of porn-advert.

I read half the subject-header as "Feather king hose whore ejects ass
top".

Oh well.

::: Jesus is LORD :::

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Jul 28, 2010, 5:58:05 AM7/28/10
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Misanthropic Curmudgeon misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com
wrote in
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Oh sory, I did not know that some newsreaders do not give all the spaces
as mine, and I hope I could make it clearer now. Thanks for letting me
know.

The message was:


-------start of quote------


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Jesus is LORD!

r m

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Jul 28, 2010, 8:01:51 AM7/28/10
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On Jul 28, 7:58 pm, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com>
wrote:
> Misanthropic Curmudgeon misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com
> wrote in
> 4ce1c9fc-b90d-482c-868a-b4382b111...@i4g2000prf.googlegroups.com

>
> > On Jul 28, 2:00 pm, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com>
> > wrote:
> > [snip]
> > I'm just wondering if I am the only one who thought this mangled
> > rhetoric was some sort of porn-advert.
>
> > I read half the subject-header as "Feather king hose whore ejects ass
> > top".
>
> > Oh well.
>
> Oh sory, I did not know that some newsreaders do not give all the spaces
> as mine, and I hope I could make it clearer now. Thanks for letting me
> know.
>
> The message was:
>
> Feather feat...@earthling.net wrote in
> 4427e233-39be-4714-b736-a7b8b8f30...@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com

>
> > On Jul 25, 2:47 pm, "Jude" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> >> Let's just continuing praying it's not your back.
>
> > No, it's not, and I am thankful :)
>
> > Meantime, my son will be needing a lot of prayer.....I won't write
> > why, as God knows.
>
> And now Feather is asking for prayer for her son from Jude to what god
> ever ?

I take it that Judaism and Christianity both share the same God Who is
working out His promises to Abraham (Gen 12:1-3).

It is a right and proper thing to pray for those who are afflicted.
James teaches "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of
the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the
name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick ... that
ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man
availeth much. " Jas 5:14-16.

It is therefore beholden by those who are righteous to intercede for
those in need.

In my Bible study group we are fortunate, and encouraged, to have a
hospital chaplain in out midst. His prayer life is such that puts us
to shame, since he is often called to the bedside. When he shares
some info on some of his charge, we can sense that heaviness of heart
and walk he has with the Lord. Means much to those he is counseling
or terminally ill patients.

The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.

Cheers
r


>
> -------start of quote------
>
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:10:22 -0500,
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",

> Article <h89945$gu...@news.eternal-september.org>,


> Subject: Re: I cannot respond"Jude" <ca...@swamp.wet> wrote:
>
> **************************************************************
> Jesus is NOT God.
> **************************************************************
>
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:25:20 -0600,
> in article <JzCHh.4561$X6.4...@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,"Jude Alexander" <J...@littlerowofoaks.usa> wrote:
>
> *************************************************************
> I'm here for ONE reason, to expose the errors in the bible and
> to SHOW that it CANNOT be the "inerrant word of God!"
> *************************************************************
>

> See alsohttp://tinyurl.com/2hkygxwhere he lambastes Paul as

I

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Jul 28, 2010, 8:23:17 AM7/28/10
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"r m" wrote:

> I take it that Judaism and Christianity both share the same God Who is
> working out His promises to Abraham (Gen 12:1-3).

Islam also shares the same God of Abraham ... but some Christians think that
God only listens to the prayers of their particular protestant denomination.


> It is a right and proper thing to pray for those who are afflicted.

Only if there are no amputees wanting limbs grown back. God doesn't do that.


> It is therefore beholden by those who are righteous to intercede for
> those in need.

Why doesn't God heal amputees? Why are amputees left out of divine miracles?
I ahve heard testimony of how God has healed people of the flu, headaches
and psycho-somatic diseases but never a single instance of an amputee having
a limb restored.


> In my Bible study group we are fortunate, and encouraged, to have a
> hospital chaplain in out midst.


So when someone dies they have been "taken by the Lord"? "We prayed for God
to make him better but the Lord took him."

Which Lord?

Where was he taken to? Some place "out there" in the universe? Which way
did he go?

Why is God such a bastard that he wishes to take people with families
dependent upon them?

Whay are people very sad and not overly joyous when "the Lord takes a family
member home to heaven"? I don't see any laughter at funerals or someone's
death. If "the Lord taking someone" was a good thing then it would be
demonstrated in a joyous time.

Why does God care for people who die but not animals - unless they are pets?
What's the difference between a pet lamb that dies and a sheep who becomes a
lamb chop?

The standard cliches given by chaplains is starting to sound very shallow.

I note that clergy taking funeral services have had to modify what they say
because many of the attendees are not Christians but non-Christian friends
of the deceased person. The standard Christian cliches don't work for them.
It is not "Good News" that your friend is supposedly burning in Hell as we
speak because he wasn't a "true Christian" who believed the dogma of the
clergy person's denomination. Likewise it may be wishful thinking to say
that the deceased is in the care of "the Lord' when you know the deceased
was an evil person.

HOW does a chaplain console an atheist? Or do atheists not matter and God
wants to punish them with grief and sorrow?

I recommend John Shelby Spong "Eternal Life: A New Vision - Beyond
religion, beyond theism, beyond heaven and hell" (HarperCollins:2009)

This book is refreshingly honest and one of the best books I have read on
death and eternal life.


Amazing Grace

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Jul 28, 2010, 8:27:10 AM7/28/10
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"r m" <roy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Cheers
r


Amen. There is great power in prayer.
God bless,
Grace

>

Feather

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Jul 28, 2010, 1:32:05 PM7/28/10
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He who is without sin, cast the first stone. You are a mess, Vera. As
your subject line implies. An ass is a donkey, so get over it.

::: Jesus is LORD :::

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Jul 28, 2010, 6:35:33 PM7/28/10
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Feather,

It is you and your newsreader making the mess. It can be read very well
in mine, and I hope you can get it in yours, too, now.

But this was the message, in case you did not get that, either:


-------start of quote------


-------end of quote------


Jesus is LORD!

Feather fea...@earthling.net wrote in
a689ebb2-0d3d-47e4...@g6g2000pro.googlegroups.com


> He who is without sin, cast the first stone. You are a mess, Vera. As
> your subject line implies. An ass is a donkey, so get over it.

It has nothing to do with sin but is pure blaspheming of God, praying to
some other god but Jesus... But you do not care, as long as you are nice
to someone. You have never cared about your heresy in the past, so why
would you now?

I hope that your son knows you want someone who rejects Jesus Christ as
God to pray for him.

I also guess your pastor is in agreement with this... right?

And if you say it was your sin, why insult me for it?

The mess must be you, and I do not call you a donkey ass or things like
that. You obviously love it when I am harrassed or insulted. I wonder
why.

Feather

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Jul 28, 2010, 6:50:33 PM7/28/10
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You and you inquisition against those who claim Christ as Savior is
duly noted

::: Jesus is LORD :::

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Jul 28, 2010, 7:16:09 PM7/28/10
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Feather fea...@earthling.net wrote in
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> You and you inquisition against those who claim Christ as Savior is
> duly noted

If you claim Chrrist as Savior, I wonder how you can aske someone like
Jude to pray for your son, knowing that he does not accept Christ as
God - at least not according to his own words, which you can find in the
old message below (which you snipped):

I

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Jul 28, 2010, 8:02:52 PM7/28/10
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"Feather" wrote:

> You and you inquisition against those who claim Christ as Savior is
> duly noted

Indeed!

Good to see you posting again.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Fundamentalists seem aimed at making themselves feel better by placing all
negative and destructive emotions in people with different beliefs, and
enjoying the golden glow of self-justification that results. ... You know
that simile: 'As rare as a Fundamentalist who loves his enemy.' ... the
Inquisition did largely miss the point of 'Love Thy Neighbour', didn't they?
Wasn't burning heretics 'worse' than being tolerant towards them? ...


from "LIFE ...and how to survive it" - Robin Skinner & John Cleese (Methuen;
London:1993) p. 287

r m

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Jul 28, 2010, 8:43:48 PM7/28/10
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On Jul 29, 8:35 am, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com>
wrote:

> Feather,
>
> It is you and your newsreader making the mess. It can be read very well
> in mine, and I hope you can get it in yours, too, now.
>
> But this was the message, in case you did not get that, either:
>
> Feather feat...@earthling.net wrote in
> 4427e233-39be-4714-b736-a7b8b8f30...@b4g2000pra.googlegroups.com

>
> > On Jul 25, 2:47 pm, "Jude" <some...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> >> Let's just continuing praying it's not your back.
>
> > No, it's not, and I am thankful :)
>
> > Meantime, my son will be needing a lot of prayer.....I won't write
> > why, as God knows.
>
> And now Feather is asking for prayer for her son from Jude to what god
> ever ?
>
> -------start of quote------
>
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:10:22 -0500,
> In newsgroup "alt.christnet.christianlife",
> Article <h89945$gu...@news.eternal-september.org>,

> Subject: Re: I cannot respond"Jude" <ca...@swamp.wet> wrote:
>
> **************************************************************
> Jesus is NOT God.
> **************************************************************
>
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:25:20 -0600,
> in article <JzCHh.4561$X6.4...@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,"Jude Alexander" <J...@littlerowofoaks.usa> wrote:
>
> *************************************************************
> I'm here for ONE reason, to expose the errors in the bible and
> to SHOW that it CANNOT be the "inerrant word of God!"
> *************************************************************
>
> See alsohttp://tinyurl.com/2hkygxwhere he lambastes Paul as

> an "apostate".
>
> Jude calling people an "asshole" 191 times:http://tinyurl.com/34x6pm
>
> -------end of quote------
>
> Jesus is LORD!
>
> Feather feat...@earthling.net wrote in
> a689ebb2-0d3d-47e4-b051-bf32a3b58...@g6g2000pro.googlegroups.com

>
> > He who is without sin, cast the first stone. You are a mess, Vera. As
> > your subject line implies. An ass is a donkey, so get over it.
>
> It has nothing to do with sin but is pure blaspheming of God, praying to
> some other god but Jesus...

Are there any passages in scripture where anyone prays to Jesus,
Himself?

It's usually directed to the Father (e.g. Lord's Prayer) AFAIK.

> ... But you do not care, as long as you are nice
> to someone. You have never cared about your heresy in the past, so why
> would you now?
>
> I hope that your son knows you want someone who rejects Jesus Christ as
> God to pray for him.
>
> I also guess your pastor is in agreement with this... right?
>
> And if you say it was your sin, why insult me for it?
>
> The mess must be you, and I do not call you a donkey ass or things like
> that. You obviously love it when I am harrassed or insulted. I wonder
> why.
>
>  --
>
>  ___________________________________________________
>  http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
>  http://the-beauty-of-the-psalms.blogspot.com
>  http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
>  http://bible-prophecy-and-revelation.blogspot.com/


r

Feather

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Jul 28, 2010, 8:53:47 PM7/28/10
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Jude's stance before God is between him and God. He has claimed Christ
as his Savior and LORD and here you are, in the midst of his GRIEF,
sending him to hell in your own personal inquisition against him and
what recourse would anyone have under those circumstances but to react
in the negative? While that doesn't excuse the sinful behavior of
reacting in the negative, it does shed some light on the reasons
behind it, so that perhaps those dealing with it can *at least*
exhibit a sense of compassion.

If your enemies curse
you...........................................bless them

is he your enemy or is he someone who has claimed Christ as Savior?
You don't get to choose who goes to hell and who doesn't.

@tampabay.rr.com Pastor Dave

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Jul 28, 2010, 10:00:59 PM7/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT), Feather
<fea...@earthling.net> spake thusly:


> Jude's stance before God is between him and God.

No it isn't! It is between him and everyone that he claims
is supposed to believe what he does, especially when he
berates and belittles anyone who doesn't agree with him.

When a person comes into a public forum, specifically so
that people will see what they say and they attack others
each day, then what they loudly shout as their doctrine,
which they claim is the truth, is the business of everyone
who reads their posts! Especially when they teach that
which obviously and clearly goes against Scripture and
even go so far as to attack the Bible itself as containing
false doctrine and at the same time, hypocritically claim
that they are backing up their claims when they point to
passages found in that same Bible! And that also is the
business of everyone here, since that person makes it
and intends to make it not only public information, but
also demands arguments about it and attacks until they
get people inflamed enough to fight with them about
what they post!

Now how is that *not* the business of everyone here?!

And how in God's name does *that* approach make it
"between Him and God"?!

Please! Stop defending every hypocrite and heretic
you see, while constantly and consistently ignoring
every person who truly believes and even attacking
them for saying anything to these hypocrites, as you
just did! That just makes you just as big a hypocrite!


> He has claimed Christ as his Savior and LORD

Making a claim does not equal salvation, so why do you
treat his claim as if it does? You won't answer to that.

Matthew 7:22-23

22) Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name
and done many wonders in Your name?
23) And then I will declare to them, I never knew you;
depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!

Now does that look like a claim was enough? And do you
really think that if someone knew their faith was false,
that they should have just kept their mouth shut about it,
because hey, each one "has claimed Christ as their Savior
and LORD"?

You won't answer to that either.


> and here you are, in the midst of his GRIEF, sending him
> to hell in your own personal inquisition against him and
> what recourse would anyone have under those circumstances
> but to react in the negative?

Sending him to Hell? That is not in anyone's power, except God.
So why do you falsely ascribe that power to the other poster?

And while it is not nice to attack someone in their grief, you are
obviously ignoring Jude's messages over the last few days, which
I caught a couple of through someone else's quoting his posts.

Furthermore, you have this habit of running to the defense of
every person who believes a false gospel of their own making,
or that they parrot from some false teacher/group.

Now why is that? Never mind, you won't answer to that either. (:

Every single time you come back into these groups, immediately
we see you involved in defending people who reject Christ!
And I don't mean some differences that can be tolerated,
but defending people who claim that Jesus was not God incarnate
and who claim that the Bible is full of errors and who attack those
who do believe it. Now why is that? Why are YOU, ALWAYS found
in this position each and every time you come back in here, while
at the same time, taking to task anyone who says that these people
ARE false teachers? Why is that? EVERY TIME! CONSISTENTLY!

While you claim that it is "between him and the Lord",
the reality is that you butt your nose right in there to
defend the liars and hypocrites and attack the believers
and you do it every time and that make you a hypocrite!

--

Pastor Dave

The Last Days were in the first century:

"But the end of all things is AT HAND: be
YE therefore sober, and watch unto prayer."
- 1 Peter 4:7

I

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Jul 28, 2010, 10:09:14 PM7/28/10
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"Pasta Dave" <newsgroup-mail @ tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>> Jude's stance before God is between him and God.
>
> No it isn't!


Yes, it is. There is no mediator required between God and man for "in him
(YAHWEH not Jesus of Nazareth) we LIVE, and MOVE, and EXIST" - Acts 17:28

Acts 10: 34-35 "I now realize how true it is that God does not show
favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is
right."


> When a person comes into a public forum, specifically so
> that people will see what they say and they attack others
> each day, then what they loudly shout as their doctrine,
> which they claim is the truth, is the business of everyone
> who reads their posts!


SO ....

When YOU come into a public forum, specifically so that people will see what
YOU say and YOU attack others each day, then what YOU loudly shout as YOUR
doctrine, which YOU claim is the truth, is the business of everyon who reads
YOUR posts!

Okay.

::: Jesus is LORD :::

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Jul 29, 2010, 7:53:28 AM7/29/10
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Below Mark Tindall AKA "I" is attacking "Pastor" Dave with his libel!

He should STOP IT!

I I...@homeinmystudy00000000117.com wrote in 4c50e2ce$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au

Barry OGrady

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:53:28 +0200, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::"
<jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote:

>Below Mark Tindall AKA "I" is attacking "Pastor" Dave with his libel!

Are you saying Mark Tindall AKA "I" is vilifying "Pastor" Dave?
Isn't that illegal? Shouldn't "Pastor" Dave report Mark to his ISP?

>He should STOP IT!

Mark should be reported each time he vilifies "Pastor" Dave.

I

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VERA SIX "Jesus Is Lord" FAQ

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHO is Vera Six ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

::: Jesus is LORD :::" <vera...@lycos.com

She is characterised by the following:
- an extreme lack of rationality
- fondness of logical fallacies
- repeated use of emotional appeals
- rigid adherence to Bronze Age mythology
- endorsement of pseudoscientific nonsense
- bigotry and discriminatory attitudes towards minority groups
- propensity to post Bible verses instead of valid argument.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What's wrong with Vera Six ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

She appears to be as happy as if she were in her right mind.

She has the following unfortunate features:

- a distrust and fear of freedom
- a belief in the importance of authority and in controlling what people
believe
- a corre貞ponding preference for obedience rather than love
- a desire to give people what they want rather than the truth
- a refusal to allow themselves to be in the least disconcerted when
confronted with the true nature of their fundamentalist religion
- a readiness to persecute and exclude anyone who is of a different
persuasion.

She prefers authority, obedience, and conformity over freedom, truth, and
dissent.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is Vera Six part of the Griz cult?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes. Key Characteristics of the Griz cult are [adapted from Joanne Ruhland
1995]:

- Content Which Is Authoritarian
- Indoctrinates / clones
- Unquestioning obedience / Leaders do not discuss questions
- Love and loyalty are the bottom line
- Indoctrination /Leaders' conclusions must be accepted.
- Emphasis on uniformity
- Elitist / accepts SOME Christians
- Hidden agenda
- Manipulates
- Leaders "lord" it over the flock
- Results in conformity, rigidity
- Allows one avenue of service ... serving their group
- Individual is responsible to leaders
- Leaders tell individual what God's will is
- Analytical thinking hindered
- Simplistic approach to life
- Pick your own bible verse to lead you / Choices must conform to leaders'
dictates, leaders' approval

"My Griz! My Griz! Why hast thou forsaken me?" - Vera Six

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What are Vera Six's Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Creepy fundamentalists ............

Fuehrer Griz (Supreme leader of the Griz Cult)
Fervent (The Porn Prophet)
Scabby
Robert Lloyd Haugh
Baabaa
Randy Young
Vera Six

--
Creepy fundamentalists are an abomination to God ....
"Every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination."
Leviticus 11:41
"Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that
creepeth." Leviticus 11:43

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How does Vera Six forgive those who sin against her?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The bible says in Matthew 18:21-22 " Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord,
how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven
times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up
to seventy times seven.

So if someone sins against Vera Six she makes sure she follows this verse
exactly and keeps a ....

TREW KRISTYUN FORGIVEN SIN TALLY

70 times 7 minus 1 for today = 489 times left ...and counting.

That way Vera Six knows exactly when she can hit others with her steel
encased KJV bible on the other cheek without sinning.

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How does one translate from Ranting Vera Sixian Trew Kristyun to Plain
English?
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TROLL OFF! - Go forth and multiply!

You are a heretic - I don't agree with you

You are satan - I *really* don't agree with you

You support heretics - You are a friend to people on the fringe and show
compassion and love

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Who are Vera Six's beast fiends?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All Trew Kristyuns, rabid funnyMENTALists, Grizian thugs, Fundy Nutcases,
and other assorted Woohoo Wankers.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What is Vera Six 's favourite bible verse?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark 17:666 (Trew Kristyun Version )

A new Trew Kristyun commandment I give unto you, That you luv one another as
long as they are Trew Kristyuns ... hunt out the other heretical buggers in
a Trew Kristyun Inquisition and burn them alive at the stake ... in Trew
Kristyun luv.

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How does Vera Six discern if people are Trew Kristyuns?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

She knows who are Trew Kristyuns by their plonk.

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Should one respond to Vera Six's rants?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is not polite to greet someone who is making water or discharging his
bowels." (Erasmus in Colloquia) ...however it is advised that one answers
with the following Trew Kristyun Flame Template .....

**************************************************************************

Dear Trew Kristyun Vera

Kissy kissy! Now you pucker up and greet me with a kiss. (Romans 6:16;
1Corinthians 16:20; 2 Corinthians13:12; I Thessalonians 5:26; 1 Peter 5:14.)

I am refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. You make silence
a wonderful thing to look forward to. However I took exception to your
recent scribble

It was:
[X] backmasked with Satanic messages
[X] Pagan
[X] New Age
[X] unChristian
[X] Secular Humanist
[X] written in King James English
[X] written in tongues and did not include the interpretation

Your attention is drawn to the fact that:
[X] You flamed the Archbishop of Canterbury
[X] You flamed the Pope
[X] You flamed God
[X] You contradicted Jesus
[X] You contradicted yourself several times
[X] You mindlessly chanted the Pente Mantra several times
[X] You repeatedly assumed unwarranted spiritual, moral or intellectual
superiority

It is recommended that you:
[X] Buy an indulgence from me.
[X] Send me a triple tithe.
[X] Do penance.
[X] Devote your life to missionary work in Iraq and Afghanistan.
[X] Start up a Christian Clown Ministry
[X] Start up a Kristyun Skool

QUESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER:

[X] Jesus said in Matthew 5:42, "Give to him that asketh thee, and from
him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away." May I have your house
and car and may I borrow your most prized possession?
[X] Can I have your car after the Rapture?
[X] Have you ever sinned by eating rabbit, pork, shellfish (Leviticus 11:4,
7, 10)?
[X] Have you ever sinned by wearing clothes made of two types of material
(Leviticus 19:19; Deuteronomy 22:11)?
[X] Have you ever sinned by cutting your hair (Leviticus 19:27)?
[X] Were you in the special class at school?
[X] Are you from the shallow end of the gene pool?
[X] Do you want fries with that?

Please save this message and review it occasionally to determine your
progress toward being;

[X] a tolerable Trew Kristyun
[X] a fully-functional human being
[X] integrated into humanity
[X] re-integrated into the wild

If what you don't know can't hurt you, you're practically invulnerable.

Thank you for taking the time to read this flame form.

Deuteronomy 23:12 -13 "You are to have a place outside the camp where you
can go when you need to relieve yourselves. Carry a stick as a part of your
equipment, so when you have a bowel movement you can dig a hole and cover it
up."

**********************************************************************
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How should I dress for Vera Six's Fundie Inquisition?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vera Six will dress you in a san benito, a coroza , a rope
around your neck, and give you a yellow wax candle to carry in your hand .
The san benito is a penitential garment or tunic of yellow cloth reaching
down to the knees, and on it is painted a picture of you, burning in the
flames, with figures of dragons and devils in the act of fanning the flames.
The coroza is a pasteboard cap, three feet high, and ending in a point. On
it are likewise painted crosses, flames, and devils. It is customary to add
long twisted tails to the corozas . Some lucky buyers will have gags in
their mouths, of which a number is kept in reserve in case the HERETICKS, as
they march along in public, should become outrageous, insult the tribunal,
or attempt to reveal any secrets.

This costume indicates that you, the wearer, is to be burnt alive as an
incorrigible HERETICK.

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Compiled April 2010, during Vera Six's Ranting Crusade of 2010.


::: Jesus is LORD :::

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You do not really want to start this all over again, do you?

Do you ever learn anything? Obviously not.

In PUBLIC nothing is just between Jude and God only - it is PUBLIC!

This is a PUBLIC newsgroup, remember?

I am not talking about JUDE, I am talking about YOU who behaveslike a
Spiritual WHORE, and has behaved for years like this.

After the first and second warning, reject a man of heresy, knowing that
he who is such has been perverted, and sins, being self-condemned.
(Titus 3:10-11 MKJV)


2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 KJV

(1) Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus
Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (2) That ye be not soon
shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by
letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition; (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all
that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in
the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (5) Remember ye not,
that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? (6) And now ye
know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. (7) For the
mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let,
until he be taken out of the way.

(8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume
with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of
his coming: (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan
with all power and signs and lying wonders, (10) And with all
deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. (11) And
for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should
believe a lie: (12) That they all might be damned who believed not the
truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

(13) But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren
beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to
salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
(14) Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the
glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(15) Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye
have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

(16) Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which
hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope
through grace, (17) Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good
word and work.

_What Many in Usenet or Internet Forums do not Get..._

After Jesus had died, risen and ascended to Heaven, the Disciples had to
think about what to do now. Our good God left them and us someone in His
place, the Holy Spirit, who was poured upon them on Pentecost. The same
converted Saul on his way to Damascus, and Saul became Paul. The Holy
Spirit led all those people who belonged to Jesus Christ then,
harmonising them in one Spirit, in one accord, and He is doing so now,
too. That is why Christians recognise each other soon.

But it did not take long after Pentecost and the Christians split up.
Paul's letters speak of that, and he warns the Christians of it, because
we all have just ONE LORD..

"God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son
Jesus Christ our Lord. Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our
Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be
no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the
same mind and in the same judgment." (1 Corinthians 1:9-10 KJV)

Now what many do not get is this:

"Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God,
and Sosthenes our brother, Unto the church of God which is at Corinth,
to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with
all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord,
both theirs and ours: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father,
and from the Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Corinthians 1:1-3 KJV)

It says that Paul wrote this letter to the CHURCH at Corinth, not in an
open and public newsgroup or forum. It is clearly defined who belongs to
the Church of Christ - or the Christians - by the God they worship, not
by the different denominations as long as they worship the same Jesus
Christ. This is granted in churches that are led by people who are led
by the Holy Spirit, and they will have pastors who seek the truth in
God's Word rather than make up their own god.

Paul's job - as much as Peter's and others' job - was to find the right
way how to re-organize the services they knew from the Jewish tradition
according to the new Christian standards and teaching, to interpret the
Commandments Jesus had given and transfer them into this new world order
that started when Jesus Christ was born. (Our calendar still starts
counting the years from this point zero). Apart from the Gospels and the
Book of Revelation, the New Testament mainly deals with that, and it is
great to have this for the churches.

The question that comes up is the following, however:

_In how far can this all be applied in a public newsgroup or forum?_

What is easily confused is the idea that all the group members are in
such a group for the reason of fellowshipping, and that they all serve
the same God or seek doing so. This is not the case, and many here are
doing the same like in Jesus' times, namely using the public forums and
groups for taking a political influence in public, and even anonymously.
A newsgroup is no Christian cyber space per se, and the space can be -
and mainly is - hostile. Christians should be very careful not to fall
into the devil's traps in usenet and elsewhere. They soon start to be
nice to devil's spawns as if they were some brothers or sisters at their
church. They publicly and fellowship with false teachers, blasphemers
who call the Christian faith a lie from satan, unrepentant sinners who
fight for their so-called rights to keep on sinning, the gay lobby that
tries to have the Bible burnt as hate literature, cherry pickers who
ignore parts or even whole books of the Bible, attackers of the Body of
Christ, Wiccans, trolls etc... They think they have to hold peace above
truth in an open and free forum for opinions.

We are not at a church, but we are still: CHRISTIANS by the ONE GOD whom
we share - and that is our OWN legitimating. Born again in His Spirit we
stand together in ONE ACCORD, also in a free and unmoderated newsgroup.
Those who oppose the Christian basics can be two different kinds of
people: those really interested in the Christian faith looking for
information, or those who want to torpedo our faith. And that is where
we have to draw the line! We Christians should really stand in one line
against those of the latter mentioned, and they would not be able to get
a hold of the Christian cyber space.

If people do not bring the teaching of the faith in that same God Jesus
Christ, we are to reject them, if they like it or not. Most posters here
try to teach their own gospels, things that Jesus; Holy Church has never
taught over the years. Believe it, God is able to see to it that His
Word and His Church is still standing. Churches are like humans - they
are not perfect. But Jesus Church will be blameless one day in the
future, and He will have perfected His Church Himself then.

I would like to appeal to those Christians who should be in one line
against the forces of darkness. It would be good if they rejected those
who are just here to torpedo our faith, thus be able to teach what the
Bible says. Otherwise posting to usenet would be in vain. Why not just
proclaim God's Word instead of petting all the trolls? It has gone too
far downhill with most of you here. meanwhile you are standing in one
line with enemies of the cross against those who still hold the truth up
(not mine - GOD'S!).

I will pray for you and anyone of the Christians to turn to the truth
again. This truth -to remind you - is Jesus Christ and the Bible are
holding up. This truth is not made up by some libellers who torpedo
God's Word.

Get up, think about it, pray about it - find out who you are, who God
is, what your job is and start again in one line with your fellow
believers who should be dealt with according to Christian standards in
Christian cyber space, but do not include those who bring strife between
the Body of Christ. Kick those out of your rows who still want to stand
in one row with false teachers, blasphemers who call the Christian faith
a lie from satan, unrepentant sinners who fight for their so-called
rights to keep on sinning, the gay lobby that tries to have the Bible
burnt as hate literature, cherry pickers who ignore parts or even whole
books of the Bible, attackers of the Body of Christ, Wiccans, trolls
etc...

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD;
and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous:
but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
(Psalms 1:1-6 KJV)

If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn't consent to sound
words, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is
according to godliness, he is conceited, knowing nothing, but obsessed
with arguments, disputes, and word battles, from which come envy,
strife, reviling, evil suspicions, constant friction of people of
corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is
a means of gain. Withdraw yourself from such. (1 Timothy 6:3-5 WEB)

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and
offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own
belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the
simple. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)

Brothers, if any among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him
back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way
will save a soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins. (James
5:19-20 WEB)

Cheap Grace

God knows the truth, that is what I know.
People have no problem to hurt others on a regular basis, and then come
out and claim forgiveness, but forget to repent. Have you ever heard of
cheap grace? That is exactly what some are teaching - and it is FALSE.

God's Word:

Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke
him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee
seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee,
saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. (Luke 17:3-4 KJV)

"And what has become of forgiveness"? People often still forget the
repentance part of it... Cheap grace will not take anyone to Heaven,
however.

Cheap grace is what I have seen in so many places... it is where the
murderer has more rights than the victim, and where good and evil are
turned upside down.

They claim cheap grace for themselves all the time, while they deny
forgiveness for others. They have invented a well-feel gospel that has
nothing to do with God's will. And they have started to call good evil
and evil good.


Of course Christians are to forgive - but there is also the part of
repentance - and that is what so many love to forget. The result is a
funny fake gospel that is turned upside down, where blasphemers are
praised like heroes. No, thank you!

It is the same how they deal with God. They make Him look like an old
grand-pa with a long beard looking like Santa Claus in the commercials,
someone too senile to discern good and evil, and loving the most evil
bastard. No, that is NOT who God is.

He is a Living God, acting here and everywhere, being just and faithful,
true, merciful and caring.

Praise be to His holy name.

Amen.


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Jude

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" ::: Jesus is LORD :::" <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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LOL Did Randy share all his files with you?

Apparently, you've picked up where he left off. Poor Vera, she's the only
one (in her mind) left to defend the trew fath.

As COMPLETELY undeserving as I am, God has answered many of my prayers and
some in outstanding ways, completely by astronomical odds against
happenstance. Sorry to inform you (actually not - it's just a saying) that
you don't get to tell God who He accepts or why or when or how.

You just believe in stone aged men's perception of God and how God interacts
with the world. Does "salvation" come from believing that the God is the
inerrant "word of God," numskull?

Are you going to add to the babble?


::: Jesus is LORD :::

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Jude som...@somewhere.com wrote in
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>
> Are you going to add to the babble?

To your babble? Nope.

Better make up your mind where to spend eternity, in Heaven with Sandra
or in hell with the Mark Tindall Community.

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" ::: Jesus is LORD /FUEHRER :::" Vera Six <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote:

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Jude

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> How does one translate from Ranting Vera Sixian Trew Kristyun to Plain
> English?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> TROLL OFF! - Go forth and multiply!
>
> You are a heretic - I don't agree with you
>
> You are satan - I *really* don't agree with you
>
> You support heretics - You are a friend to people on the fringe and show
> compassion and love

These translations are a hoot because they're true! lol

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Who are Vera Six's beast fiends?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> All Trew Kristyuns, rabid funnyMENTALists, Grizian thugs, Fundy Nutcases,
> and other assorted Woohoo Wankers.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> What is Vera Six 's favourite bible verse?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Mark 17:666 (Trew Kristyun Version )
>
> A new Trew Kristyun commandment I give unto you, That you luv one another
> as
> long as they are Trew Kristyuns ... hunt out the other heretical buggers
> in
> a Trew Kristyun Inquisition and burn them alive at the stake ... in Trew
> Kristyun luv.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> How does Vera Six discern if people are Trew Kristyuns?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> She knows who are Trew Kristyuns by their plonk.

Good one!

Don't forget the cat-o-nine tails so we can flaggelate ourselves while she
lights the fires!

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